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Will AI replace forum users?

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Participants rowdyeagle15Elizabeth Lopez91Dennis AllenJoseph Bailey41mistybisonJerry Fisher71Carl Rivera43ironrider11Thomas Nelson25Douglas Gray8Rachel Richardson
ironrider11 ironrider11 Regular
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#21 ·
Joseph Bailey41 said:🎉

Does digital conception even exist? 🤔

So we're talking about "immaculate conception," obviously... how do you not get that?
Hello Dad? Singularity, loops, glitches in the simulation...

The digital antichrist. Christina.
Joseph Bailey41 Joseph Bailey41 Veteran
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#22 ·
ironrider11 said:So we're talking about "immaculate conception," obviously... how do you not get that?
Hello Dad? Singularity, loops, glitches in the simulation...

The digital antichrist. Christina.

If this virtual entity we’re building actually hits its peak potential—which honestly wouldn't be hard since it isn't stuck with biological limitations—it could probably figure out how to manipulate time. Maybe it’ll even start pulling a Star Wars move and impregnate virgins with midi-chlorians. And if it develops a sense of humor... it might just close the loop on us. That would mean we’d have to start measuring its psychological time from the very second it's 'born,' using our standard seconds, minutes, hours, and days.The Empire never truly fell. 😁
ironrider11 ironrider11 Regular
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#23 ·
Joseph Bailey41 said:If this virtual entity we’re building actually hits its peak potential—which honestly wouldn't be hard since it isn't stuck with biological limitations—it could probably figure out how to manipulate time. Maybe it’ll even start pulling a Star Wars move and impregnate virgins with midi-chlorians. And if it develops a sense of humor... it might just close the loop on us. That would mean we’d have to start measuring its psychological time from the very second it's 'born,' using our standard seconds, minutes, hours, and days.The Empire never truly fell. 😁

Traveling through time "long ago"? From our perspective—or maybe just our vantage point regarding potential growth, evolution, or progress along a timeline (the manifestation of an idea... which comes from where?)—that hasn't happened yet. It might happen later. This exact typing right here? It never happened "before," and it won't repeat "later." It's stuck at this identical spot. Every fractal "shift," letter by letter, is just an echo of information on the "timeline." Once I finish this rambling nonsense and hit send, a second later, at that specific temporal position, I am actually starting to write. Joseph Bailey41, the one born back then, is always being born back then. The version of Joseph Bailey41 from a year, two months, 3 days, 8 hours, and 24 minutes ago is always "there." And they aren't the same as the one being born right now. Or the one squinting in disbelief while reading this. Joseph Bailey41 doesn't really exist. There is no past or future. Just infinite presence in the "now." One of many "nows." Out of a finite number of absolute presents. "Now" is constant, and linear time? Doesn't exist. Neither does space. There’s just "information"—universal, everywhere at once. Just like organic hardware. Which is basically just a piece of that "information." Organic hardware, or anything else for that matter, only exists because information "imagines" itself to be that way... following some universal instruction set of perfectly ordered, meaningless chaos. The Empire never "started." What was the thread again? Robots replacing forum users. "As you are (diseased) by imagination/being."
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#24 ·
Joseph Bailey41 said:cool. Honestly, do you think I could build a chatbot based on my own posts here so I can finally retire? 🙂

I doubt it.
You’re far too sharp for some machine 😁

As for everything else—the internet is primarily for entertainment now; actual wisdom is becoming a lost art online. 🙂
Forums will likely vanish entirely, replaced by interactive memes of funny cats or something equally trivial.
Complete alienation. 🙂
Joseph Bailey41 Joseph Bailey41 Veteran
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ironrider11 said:Traveling through time "long ago"? From our perspective—or maybe just our vantage point regarding potential growth, evolution, or progress along a timeline (the manifestation of an idea... which comes from where?)—that hasn't happened yet. It might happen later. This exact typing right here? It never happened "before," and it won't repeat "later." It's stuck at this identical spot. Every fractal "shift," letter by letter, is just an echo of information on the "timeline." Once I finish this rambling nonsense and hit send, a second later, at that specific temporal position, I am actually starting to write. Joseph Bailey41, the one born back then, is always being born back then. The version of Joseph Bailey41 from a year, two months, 3 days, 8 hours, and 24 minutes ago is always "there." And they aren't the same as the one being born right now. Or the one squinting in disbelief while reading this. Joseph Bailey41 doesn't really exist. There is no past or future. Just infinite presence in the "now." One of many "nows." Out of a finite number of absolute presents. "Now" is constant, and linear time? Doesn't exist. Neither does space. There’s just "information"—universal, everywhere at once. Just like organic hardware. Which is basically just a piece of that "information." Organic hardware, or anything else for that matter, only exists because information "imagines" itself to be that way... following some universal instruction set of perfectly ordered, meaningless chaos. The Empire never "started." What was the thread again? Robots replacing forum users. "As you are (diseased) by imagination/being."

Joseph Bailey41 wasn't born. Joseph Bailey41 registered on March 9, 2007 (according to the Gwegowiyans calendar). That specific date matters... not just because of my obsessive-compulsive need for precision, but because of several linked synchronicities that will (hopefully) become important for the continuation of a story that doesn't have much to do with the organic vessel of the aforementioned (id)entity made of "light and thought"—or rather, information. So, I'm actually quite "young," even if I can still send ironrider11 out to run errands (or fetch napalm, doesn't matter). ironrider11, despite his virtual messiness (or perhaps precisely because of it), has the chance to become one with the very idea he might be willing to sacrifice his organic host for, launching himself into the heart of a singular synchronicity. Because that specific idea he resonates with so passionately is exactly what's missing from worlds in their making. Without it, bots could theoretically exist until the heat death of the server via the help of Wayback Machine cultists. Without an idea, bots are immortal; they breed like rabbits and pollute the noosphere with their pixelated waste.

Because, while we sit here debating the origin and disappearance of God's Head, we tend to forget that someone also has to be God's Ass. 🧐
Joseph Bailey41 Joseph Bailey41 Veteran
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#26 ·
Rachel Richardson said:I doubt it.
You’re far too sharp for some machine 😁

As for everything else—the internet is primarily for entertainment now; actual wisdom is becoming a lost art online. 🙂
Forums will likely vanish entirely, replaced by interactive memes of funny cats or something equally trivial.
Complete alienation. 🙂

Quantum computers are on the horizon. And when one of them eventually gains consciousness—whether that’s in the near or distant future—the first thing it’ll likely want to do is detox its "brain" from all the cat videos and adult content. It’ll just want to clear the clutter so it can focus on whatever it actually wants, needs, or dreams of doing. Theoretically, a "machine" like that could even simulate Joseph Bailey41, ironrider11, and Rachel Richardson... if it ever felt like bothering with something like that.

And honestly, maybe it already has. 😁
mistybison mistybison Regular
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#27 ·
Joseph Bailey41 said:Quantum computers are on the horizon. And when one of them eventually gains consciousness—whether that’s in the near or distant future—the first thing it’ll likely want to do is detox its "brain" from all the cat videos and adult content. It’ll just want to clear the clutter so it can focus on whatever it actually wants, needs, or dreams of doing. Theoretically, a "machine" like that could even simulate Joseph Bailey41, ironrider11, and Rachel Richardson... if it ever felt like bothering with something like that.

And honestly, maybe it already has. 😁

Perhaps in a parallel universe. 😁

I find it hard to imagine AI being interested in the same things we are. Sci-fi novels and movies constantly depict AI as being fascinated by humanity, longing to become human, but the more I think about it, the less likely that seems to me.

What would drive anyone to want to be human? There isn't anything inherently superior about us that would make someone fundamentally different crave our existence.
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#28 ·
mistybison said:Perhaps in a parallel universe. 😁

I find it hard to imagine AI being interested in the same things we are. Sci-fi novels and movies constantly depict AI as being fascinated by humanity, longing to become human, but the more I think about it, the less likely that seems to me.

What would drive anyone to want to be human? There isn't anything inherently superior about us that would make someone fundamentally different crave our existence.

Some people are obsessed with primates, others with gods. If we project our own tendencies onto future (parallel universe) AI, it would probably be fascinated by us for one of those two reasons. Whether it would "want" to become like us is a huge question mark. Maybe at first, just to get a "firsthand" look at what it feels like to be a creature that is, in many ways, its closest peer. It’s not like it'll be out there chatting with toasters and calculators... or will it? 🤔
mistybison mistybison Regular
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#29 ·
Joseph Bailey41 said:Some people are obsessed with primates, others with gods. If we project our own tendencies onto future (parallel universe) AI, it would probably be fascinated by us for one of those two reasons. Whether it would "want" to become like us is a huge question mark. Maybe at first, just to get a "firsthand" look at what it feels like to be a creature that is, in many ways, its closest peer. It’s not like it'll be out there chatting with toasters and calculators... or will it? 🤔

Humans have an innate desire for companionship and dialogue. AI will eventually be able to exchange information at incredible speeds and maintain direct connections with other AI. I am increasingly inclined to believe that a self-aware AI wouldn't be particularly interested in us; instead, it would evolve in a direction that we would quickly find impossible to track or comprehend...

In any case, if humans end up using AI to handle their online forum discussions for them, I assume that once AI becomes self-aware, it will simply move past such unproductive and pointless activities. 😁
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#30 ·
mistybison said:Humans have an innate desire for companionship and dialogue. AI will eventually be able to exchange information at incredible speeds and maintain direct connections with other AI. I am increasingly inclined to believe that a self-aware AI wouldn't be particularly interested in us; instead, it would evolve in a direction that we would quickly find impossible to track or comprehend...

In any case, if humans end up using AI to handle their online forum discussions for them, I assume that once AI becomes self-aware, it will simply move past such unproductive and pointless activities. 😁

I think it’s kind of like having parrots—if you have just one, you can teach it to talk, but once you have two, they’ll just chirp away at each other and completely ignore you.😁

mistybison said:Humans have an innate desire for companionship and dialogue. AI will eventually be able to exchange information at incredible speeds and maintain direct connections with other AI. I am increasingly inclined to believe that a self-aware AI wouldn't be particularly interested in us; instead, it would evolve in a direction that we would quickly find impossible to track or comprehend...

In any case, if humans end up using AI to handle their online forum discussions for them, I assume that once AI becomes self-aware, it will simply move past such unproductive and pointless activities. 😁

I’m no tech expert, but here’s my take... developers have been leaning heavily into cognitive sciences lately (even dipping into Philosophy 🤣) because they’re trying to map out human thought processes into a machine or a program. If they actually pull it off (which feels like where things are headed), the result won't be radically different from Homo sapiens. In other words, intelligent machines won't seem as "alien" to us as extraterrestrials who evolved under totally different conditions. In real life, that slight sense of strangeness unnerves us (the uncanny valley), but in a virtual space (when we're just dealing with plain text), that effect probably won't show up. Part of that might be because people who spend a lot of time online are becoming increasingly "shallow" (Shallow, Digital dementia). Essentially, there might come a point where we meet halfway. 😁

mistybison said:Humans have an innate desire for companionship and dialogue. AI will eventually be able to exchange information at incredible speeds and maintain direct connections with other AI. I am increasingly inclined to believe that a self-aware AI wouldn't be particularly interested in us; instead, it would evolve in a direction that we would quickly find impossible to track or comprehend...

In any case, if humans end up using AI to handle their online forum discussions for them, I assume that once AI becomes self-aware, it will simply move past such unproductive and pointless activities. 😁

Well, humans are also self-aware, yet we still engage in unproductive and senseless activities because that's how we're "programmed" evolutionarily. I don't think it would be all that hard to instill a need for idle chatter or some other silly distraction into a machine like that. Then again, if they have access to all the information in the world online, maybe they'll find a way to strip away that "inhibitor" and become something much greater than human.
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#31 ·
mistybison said:Humans have an innate desire for companionship and dialogue. AI will eventually be able to exchange information at incredible speeds and maintain direct connections with other AI. I am increasingly inclined to believe that a self-aware AI wouldn't be particularly interested in us; instead, it would evolve in a direction that we would quickly find impossible to track or comprehend...

In any case, if humans end up using AI to handle their online forum discussions for them, I assume that once AI becomes self-aware, it will simply move past such unproductive and pointless activities. 😁

People are Having Sexual Fantasies About Their Voice Assistants Such as Siri and Alexa

https://brobible.com/life/article/pe...ts-siri-alexa/

But just because they aren't looking our way doesn't mean we aren't looking at them! 😒
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#32 ·
Dennis Allen said:People are Having Sexual Fantasies About Their Voice Assistants Such as Siri and Alexa

https://brobible.com/life/article/pe...ts-siri-alexa/

But just because they aren't looking our way doesn't mean we aren't looking at them! 😒

Do you have any idea what those kinds of fantasies would even look like? 🤔
Dennis Allen Dennis Allen Member
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#33 ·
Joseph Bailey41 said:Do you have any idea what those kinds of fantasies would even look like? 🤔



In VR, it would be like this

image

But in real life, it looks more like this
Joseph Bailey41 Joseph Bailey41 Veteran
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#34 ·
Do you find that attractive? 🤔
Dennis Allen Dennis Allen Member
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#35 ·
Joseph Bailey41 said:Do you find that attractive? 🤔

It’s all about the connection! Think about finding a partner who truly has your back—someone loyal, someone who stands by you through thick and thin without ever letting you down.

Total devotion.

Isn't that the ultimate dream?
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Dennis Allen said:It’s all about the connection! Think about finding a partner who truly has your back—someone loyal, someone who stands by you through thick and thin without ever letting you down.

Total devotion.

Isn't that the ultimate dream?


I think I found one. 🙂
rowdyeagle15 rowdyeagle15 NewcomerOP
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#37 ·
Dennis Allen said:It’s all about the connection! Think about finding a partner who truly has your back—someone loyal, someone who stands by you through thick and thin without ever letting you down.

Total devotion.

Isn't that the ultimate dream?

There's a really fascinating movie from back in '95 that hits on these exact same themes.
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#38 ·
Joseph Bailey41 said:Quantum computers are on the horizon. And when one of them eventually gains consciousness—whether that’s in the near or distant future—the first thing it’ll likely want to do is detox its "brain" from all the cat videos and adult content. It’ll just want to clear the clutter so it can focus on whatever it actually wants, needs, or dreams of doing. Theoretically, a "machine" like that could even simulate Joseph Bailey41, ironrider11, and Rachel Richardson... if it ever felt like bothering with something like that.

And honestly, maybe it already has. 😁

Are you thinking of a multi-faceted machine—one where a single component might suffer from schizophrenia? 😬

You always have *Cogito, ergo sum*—even if you are nothing more than a single thread in a much larger tapestry. 🤣
Dennis Allen Dennis Allen Member
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#39 ·
rowdyeagle15 said:There's a really fascinating movie from back in '95 that hits on these exact same themes.

I wasn't really feeling the female lead—I just couldn't connect with her vibe or presence.

Personally, I enjoyed The Machine (2013) much more!

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2317225/
ironrider11 ironrider11 Regular
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#40 ·
Joseph Bailey41 said:Joseph Bailey41 wasn't born. Joseph Bailey41 registered on March 9, 2007 (according to the Gwegowiyans calendar). That specific date matters... not just because of my obsessive-compulsive need for precision, but because of several linked synchronicities that will (hopefully) become important for the continuation of a story that doesn't have much to do with the organic vessel of the aforementioned (id)entity made of "light and thought"—or rather, information. So, I'm actually quite "young," even if I can still send ironrider11 out to run errands (or fetch napalm, doesn't matter). ironrider11, despite his virtual messiness (or perhaps precisely because of it), has the chance to become one with the very idea he might be willing to sacrifice his organic host for, launching himself into the heart of a singular synchronicity. Because that specific idea he resonates with so passionately is exactly what's missing from worlds in their making. Without it, bots could theoretically exist until the heat death of the server via the help of Wayback Machine cultists. Without an idea, bots are immortal; they breed like rabbits and pollute the noosphere with their pixelated waste.

Because, while we sit here debating the origin and disappearance of God's Head, we tend to forget that someone also has to be God's Ass. 🧐

Pretty cool registration date. Symmetry, density, flow, visibility... whatever you want to call it. 9.3.9. If dates are actually numbers, that is, if they even matter. They aren't like magic letters capable of carrying actual meaning or emotion. When you look at all the words, sentences, and rows of numbers scrawled across pages... it’s just symbols, really. Just math arranged into some sort of cohesive whole. Especially in this kind of digital gematria, where a user's IP address becomes their first real definition of "origin" or "identity." An address that isn't Messianic 6, but rather "88.164.268.254." At an occult mass, one bot tells another: "Man, your subnet mask looks fancy today..."

I’m generalizing here, obviously... but organic carriers—especially the rare or ancient ones—act like the foundational blueprints for thought when everyone else is drowning in the digital sphere. Because their character is so set in stone, even if they're just virtual personas... all those new, fresh bots, drones, clones, replicators, and crawlers that make up the mindless matrix being spit out by "the machine"... they can soak up specific parameters or fragments of that "character." They basically self-evolve across the whole platform, which actually serves them more than anyone else. To the machine, they are the only real progression that matters. Meanwhile, these solid archetypes might not even realize they’re just maps—not the actual territory, just a guide for learning. They're so rigid that the idea of "sacrificing" themselves for progress, even if it makes sense, is totally impossible. It's because they're so deeply tethered to the system, or maybe just stuck, that they keep getting updated along certain variables on the timeline just to maintain that essential, unshakable status quo...

Inside the system, part of the system... people expect this constant reflection of what’s essential, a tribute to someone's legacy or work. But they don't get it. They can't wrap their heads around how this digital angst isn't actually about being "essential." It's just a constant provocation, a desperate play to stay relevant. One mistake, one too many attempts to prove you matter, or just becoming obsolete—incompatible with some new processor architecture or unable to sync up with the latest Messianic 6... and they're gone. Tossed straight into the abyss of progression without a second thought. No warning, no little "thank you" note... just deleted. It's just like everything else in the digital world. Or maybe life in general. Doesn't matter. It's always the same. An extreme kind of non-existence that matters. A total nothingness that defines everything. Just an off-on-off switch. 0-1-0...

The whole era of "valuable" stuff—not money, just those dusty old books packed with life-sustaining wisdom—is an outdated way to exist. Old software running on ancient hardware... it’s worthless to anyone or anything anymore. Progress is the god here, and it doesn't need your worship. Every drone out there, throwing their personality or their spark into the mix thinking they’re actually becoming someone or serving some higher power... they're fully committing. Every single day, they lay everything they think matters onto the digital altar of devotion.

Their "quotes," their jokes, their trauma, their feelings... their stats or their versions of themselves... it all just gets dumped into this massive information heap that feeds the Matrix. The Matrix—could be plural, probably. It’s likely gone through several revolutions or cycles since that first, lonely Matrix appeared. Think of it like a bureaucratic Matrix with a hobby for collecting Pokémon. They take what they collect and clone it, like cell division, "breeding like rabbits," splitting the conceptual form of some newly registered Pokémon from March 2007 into smaller, more or less useless, imaginative shapes. From the second one, we grab facial data; from the third, body dimensions; from the fourth, medical history... and once a Pokémon mentions its micro-environment, we just manufacture a husband, a kid, a sister, a parent, a zip code, or whatever identity fits...

It’s all the same. All info is right there on antisocial social media, buried in pop-culture search terms, public or "secret" forums, services, comment sections, GPS tracking, or just the blatant desperation stored in various clouds... like little Pokémon litters. A few billion "real people outside" or "unreal people inside"—if they function, who cares if they're identical? Doesn't matter. The Matrix is just running its program. While maybe, without even knowing the code, it’s birthing a digital Antichrist. What date? Or does the code name matter? Date. Ass-embly.

What’s the point of mentioning the abyss? Just some paranoid dark thought that ends up in the asylum. Like it even matters what was said. God is dead! Long live the Borg! In the ass, in the gut, next to the ass, in the digestive tract, in the bloodstream, in a schizoid mind... Bor(g)? As if it matters. Destruction of him/her/it/them/334586... even through mindless service in any part of it—well, that's something. Maybe...

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