Ego vs. Spirituality

Joseph Bailey41 said:I can see where you picked up all that wisdom from now. 👍

In this world, a mother is the only thing that truly stays the same. (Walt Whitman). 🧐

Whether wise or not, one thing remains certain: motherhood exists in a category of its own. It’s similar to how Native American traditions view women—mothers are inherently sacred. They perceive the world through a different lens, one rooted in fairness; they are the bringers of life, which is why many cultures believe your first deity is your mother. 🙂 Of course, there are outliers, just as there are in any other facet of life, but that is the reality. Men are a different story entirely; they lack that innate feminine intuition and the capacity for forgiveness. Despite any efforts to deny it, we require their help. 🙂 It is simply the way things are.

Betty Patel172 said:Whether wise or not, one thing remains certain: motherhood exists in a category of its own. It’s similar to how Native American traditions view women—mothers are inherently sacred. They perceive the world through a different lens, one rooted in fairness; they are the bringers of life, which is why many cultures believe your first deity is your mother. 🙂 Of course, there are outliers, just as there are in any other facet of life, but that is the reality. Men are a different story entirely; they lack that innate feminine intuition and the capacity for forgiveness. Despite any efforts to deny it, we require their help. 🙂 It is simply the way things are.

Next time someone decides to lose their cool and start hurling insults at me, I think I'll just say thank you for the kind wishes. 🎉

I have this theory that the ego tends to inflate itself when it’s actually shrinking, yet somehow manages to feel incredibly small even when it's acting quite large. Honestly, whenever people start lecturing about the "ego" as if it were some tangible object—like you're sitting there discussing a sack of Russet potatoes—it usually ends up sounding rather foolish.

Speaking of which, if we look at the principles of Reality Transurfing, there is a fascinating perspective on the ego. There is this concept regarding the "self," specifically how it manifests when it's feeling miserable, or when it isn't elevating itself, or perhaps when it's bogged down by insecurities and refuses to act any differently... which essentially leads to a cycle of making excuses, feeling guilt, and so on. It reminds me of how a gardener might try to fix a wilted leaf without checking the soil; Vadim Zeland makes this brilliant point that you can't simply remove the cause, only the consequence. He really grasped that fundamental shift. If you simply stop making excuses, the very need to justify yourself begins to evaporate.

Of course, it isn't quite that effortless in practice, because I often find myself spiraling into a loop where I just start inventing even less convincing excuses to cover my tracks.

I really admire Vadim’s work; his logic is incredibly sound.

A spiritually evolved individual doesn't possess a massive ego.

Trying to force things into boxes where they don't fit—it always ends in a massive letdown.

One guy is all about being spiritual, while the other... well, he's definitely not. But sure, let's just completely ignore the second one because the first one is exactly what we're supposedly looking for...

It’s not even about whether your ego is massive or totally non-existent—it’s really about whether the whole thing is actually built on some decent, real-world values in the first place.

This brings us to a fundamental question: what truly constitutes our core values? And more importantly, who gets to define them? I believe the issue of ego stems from an inherent desire to stand out, regardless of the nature of one's actions. The ego acts much like a wild animal; it is something we must learn to recognize and eventually tame, which will naturally diminish its need for constant validation. This false sense of self is ultimately the root of our struggles within this material world, making it essential to remain mindful of it in ourselves and others, without ever identifying with it...

wanderingbadger0 said:This brings us to a fundamental question: what truly constitutes our core values? And more importantly, who gets to define them? I believe the issue of ego stems from an inherent desire to stand out, regardless of the nature of one's actions. The ego acts much like a wild animal; it is something we must learn to recognize and eventually tame, which will naturally diminish its need for constant validation. This false sense of self is ultimately the root of our struggles within this material world, making it essential to remain mindful of it in ourselves and others, without ever identifying with it...

Everyone thinks their own values are the absolute truth. Anyone who sees things differently is just wrong, apparently. 😁

Joseph Bailey41 said:To be honest, I don't really have a clue what "spiritual growth and development" even means. 🕺

Of course it's possible. If you head out to the Himalayas and rent one of those meditation caves that comes with a private bathroom, while a Sherpa brings you water and chops your firewood. 😁

Walking around the streets without an ego isn't exactly recommended. It's dangerous.

Nothing. It's still as full of holes as a block of Swiss cheese. At least that's what a psychic told me—right after some clairvoyants at an esoteric fair gave me similar vibes back when they used to set up near the Farmers Market. Honestly, they were talking about holes in my aura, but I think it's the same thing.

It's that sense of self-importance, that feeling of being separate. Spiritualists often just develop a "spiritualized ego"—they stay just as self-centered, but they learn all the right jargon to repackage their flaws as virtues.

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Quincy:

It’s still just as full of holes as Swiss cheese. At least that’s what my shrink told me, and before that, some psychics at the Esoteric Fair while I was hanging around Pike Place Market. Honestly, they were rambling on about holes in my aura, but if you ask me, it’s the exact same thing.

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Joseph Bailey41 said:Exactly. It’s like the response to thousands of years of women being conditioned to be submissive. We’ve just reached our limit, honestly. If you care so much about preserving that "virtue," maybe try being the humble ones for a change. ☕

It isn't about being Egoistic; it’s just pure burnout. We are done with the mansplaining, done with being treated as second-class citizens, and done with these gods who are really just projections of individual and collective egos. It's over. That's it.

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Joseph Bailey41 said:Exactly. It’s like the response to thousands of years of women being conditioned to be submissive. We’ve just reached our limit, honestly. If you care so much about preserving that "virtue," maybe try being the humble ones for a change. ☕

It isn't about being Egoistic; it’s just pure burnout. We are done with the mansplaining, done with being treated as second-class citizens, and done with these gods who are really just projections of individual and collective egos. It's over. That's it.

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awesome

Rachel Walker3 said:👍👍👍

Well, wow... new eras are coming!🍿

Joseph Bailey41 said:Exactly. It’s like the response to thousands of years of women being conditioned to be submissive. We’ve just reached our limit, honestly. If you care so much about preserving that "virtue," maybe try being the humble ones for a change. ☕

It isn't about being Egoistic; it’s just pure burnout. We are done with the mansplaining, done with being treated as second-class citizens, and done with these gods who are really just projections of individual and collective egos. It's over. That's it.

That sounds like militant feminism to me—mostly because, behind the curtain of the reality we actually live in, there's an ongoing gender war driven by extreme ego states. It's something certain individuals have managed to build up within their social circles (and failed to control), and the higher the level of imbalance, the more brutal it gets—which, frankly, is currently devastating the most capable segment of the male population.

Women have absolutely succeeded in this takeover due to an inherent predisposition they've started leveraging—not to foster love, but to concentrate power. The whole thing was facilitated by the old concept of virginity, which has lost all its relevance. Now, the modern woman can just visualize what she wants in her head, leaving us with a public sphere full of shallow caricatures who, in their own truth regarding how they actually function, are essentially incapable of truly realizing themselves as women anymore. At this stage, you also see homosexuality acting as a stronghold—which is really just a deviation of sexuality fueled by the "modern female ego," where the very origin of love used to reside.

The problem is massive, and it's only going to get worse unless we find the guts to face it head-on (and it's really just a matter of time before we have to). We are facing one of the greatest revolutions—a revolution of the mind for most people... triggered by a realization of who we actually are, which is ultimately what drives the advancement of consciousness.

mistywalker16 said:That sounds like militant feminism to me—mostly because, behind the curtain of the reality we actually live in, there's an ongoing gender war driven by extreme ego states. It's something certain individuals have managed to build up within their social circles (and failed to control), and the higher the level of imbalance, the more brutal it gets—which, frankly, is currently devastating the most capable segment of the male population.

Women have absolutely succeeded in this takeover due to an inherent predisposition they've started leveraging—not to foster love, but to concentrate power. The whole thing was facilitated by the old concept of virginity, which has lost all its relevance. Now, the modern woman can just visualize what she wants in her head, leaving us with a public sphere full of shallow caricatures who, in their own truth regarding how they actually function, are essentially incapable of truly realizing themselves as women anymore. At this stage, you also see homosexuality acting as a stronghold—which is really just a deviation of sexuality fueled by the "modern female ego," where the very origin of love used to reside.

The problem is massive, and it's only going to get worse unless we find the guts to face it head-on (and it's really just a matter of time before we have to). We are facing one of the greatest revolutions—a revolution of the mind for most people... triggered by a realization of who we actually are, which is ultimately what drives the advancement of consciousness.

I’m sorry, but I honestly have no idea what you're getting at. 🤷

Could you maybe explain that in plain English?

Joseph Bailey41 said:I’m sorry, but I honestly have no idea what you're getting at. 🤷

Could you maybe explain that in plain English?

Joseph Bailey41, they caught you right where you thrive... you're totally running the show 🙂

Nancy Lee84 said:Joseph Bailey41, they caught you right where you thrive... you're totally running the show 🙂

Oh, that. Thanks for translating. 😁

To be honest, I don't even remember when or why I wrote that... but I really don't feel militant at all. That just feels so third-dimensional and unspiritual. I spend my time reading Sensata, hugging trees, celebrating the lunar cycles, and soaking in the endless abundance of Mother Nature—plus, I'm already planning to attend a womb blessing workshop next year.

And then yesterday, I got some great news—it turns out my ego boundaries are incredibly firm; they've healed, just spontaneously. Maybe the same thing happened with my Virgo opposition... I haven't had a chance to check yet.

Love is the law. 🎉

Joseph Bailey41 said:Oh, that. Thanks for translating. 😁

To be honest, I don't even remember when or why I wrote that... but I really don't feel militant at all. That just feels so third-dimensional and unspiritual. I spend my time reading Sensata, hugging trees, celebrating the lunar cycles, and soaking in the endless abundance of Mother Nature—plus, I'm already planning to attend a womb blessing workshop next year.

And then yesterday, I got some great news—it turns out my ego boundaries are incredibly firm; they've healed, just spontaneously. Maybe the same thing happened with my Virgo opposition... I haven't had a chance to check yet.

Love is the law. 🎉

Highly recommended 🤣

expert at inspecting virgin leather footwear and a lover of rubber dolls

mistywalker16 said:That sounds like militant feminism to me—mostly because, behind the curtain of the reality we actually live in, there's an ongoing gender war driven by extreme ego states. It's something certain individuals have managed to build up within their social circles (and failed to control), and the higher the level of imbalance, the more brutal it gets—which, frankly, is currently devastating the most capable segment of the male population.

Women have absolutely succeeded in this takeover due to an inherent predisposition they've started leveraging—not to foster love, but to concentrate power. The whole thing was facilitated by the old concept of virginity, which has lost all its relevance. Now, the modern woman can just visualize what she wants in her head, leaving us with a public sphere full of shallow caricatures who, in their own truth regarding how they actually function, are essentially incapable of truly realizing themselves as women anymore. At this stage, you also see homosexuality acting as a stronghold—which is really just a deviation of sexuality fueled by the "modern female ego," where the very origin of love used to reside.

The problem is massive, and it's only going to get worse unless we find the guts to face it head-on (and it's really just a matter of time before we have to). We are facing one of the greatest revolutions—a revolution of the mind for most people... triggered by a realization of who we actually are, which is ultimately what drives the advancement of consciousness.

God, the amount of nonsense and garbage floating around this forum is unreal. Every time I visit, I feel this growing urge to just wash my hands of the whole thing.
Poor guys—women have been feeding them complexes for decades now, and honestly, it's going to lead humanity straight into the ground.

I mean, they should have been suppressed for at least 10,000 years just like men did to them (and even then, the world is still a mess), then maybe we could start talking about equality or this "inability to realize themselves as women" stuff.
PS
Joseph Bailey41, here's the gist—this guy thinks patriarchy was ordained by God and that women are second-class citizens (which isn't true, they're just slightly different; as long as they cover up with a veil or a burqa and stay home watching soap operas while guarding their virginity, everything is fine).
On politics, though—the guy is a total follower of that stable, "covfefe"-style fool.

Paul Rogers94 said:Highly recommended 🤣

expert at inspecting virgin leather footwear and a lover of rubber dolls

You might have better luck here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bn9UEzfyw0

... she goes on, playing the part of some 'yogic spiritualist,' even rambling about multiple orgasms. 🤣