Crazy Talk Thread

Joseph Bailey41 said:Pavuna just proved God exists using a simple equation:

0+God=God

🙏🙏🙏

Anyone got the key to this one? 😁

Interesting equation. I'll start studying this immediately. 🙏 🙏 🙏 🤣

Honestly, there’s zero point in arguing about this anymore.
That's all there is to it.
Once science and religion finally shake hands, we can actually just chill and enjoy the rest of our lives in peace. 🙏

Brandon Lopez6 said:Do you believe in sarcasm and messing around? 😁

Hmm... what if we're talking about a personality disorder? 😁

Joseph Bailey41 said:Pavuna just proved God exists using a simple equation:

0+God=God

🙏🙏🙏

Anyone got the key to this one? 😁

I don't know what to tell you... some people just have a way of seeing things that doesn't align with reality. It’s constant. kaže:
That’s a solid equation...🤣

Here’s a bit of math for you: 0 + 100 x God = ... actually, let me just say—to hell with all of them...

God damn it... three times over...🤦

🤣

Thomas Nelson25 said:Hmm... what if we're talking about a personality disorder? 😁

Wait, what? 🤔

I wouldn't exactly call myself a believer, but whenever I’ve experienced that "something" more—that mystical sensation that defies any kind of verbal description—it has invariably led me straight into a psychotic episode and a stay at the psychiatric ward. I remember reading somewhere that "healthy believers" tend to have slightly higher dopamine levels compared to atheists, and in my case, the hallmark of my illness is an extremely high surge of that specific neurotransmitter. Brandon Lopez6, you know better than anyone what I'm up against. It makes me wonder if my medication, which works by bringing those dopamine levels down, might also be dampening that "healthy" spark of faith in God, or perhaps some other subtle connection we can't quite perceive directly. Since we're discussing this from a psychological perspective, I've come to think that depending on one's brain chemistry, you essentially have atheists, healthy believers, and then the fanatics who actually require psychiatric intervention. I'm also aware of instances where various charismatic leaders have pushed people into trances that ultimately resulted in hospitalizations due to acute psychosis.

Harold Anderson3 said:I wouldn't exactly call myself a believer, but whenever I’ve experienced that "something" more—that mystical sensation that defies any kind of verbal description—it has invariably led me straight into a psychotic episode and a stay at the psychiatric ward. I remember reading somewhere that "healthy believers" tend to have slightly higher dopamine levels compared to atheists, and in my case, the hallmark of my illness is an extremely high surge of that specific neurotransmitter. Brandon Lopez6, you know better than anyone what I'm up against. It makes me wonder if my medication, which works by bringing those dopamine levels down, might also be dampening that "healthy" spark of faith in God, or perhaps some other subtle connection we can't quite perceive directly. Since we're discussing this from a psychological perspective, I've come to think that depending on one's brain chemistry, you essentially have atheists, healthy believers, and then the fanatics who actually require psychiatric intervention. I'm also aware of instances where various charismatic leaders have pushed people into trances that ultimately resulted in hospitalizations due to acute psychosis.

Did you deal with other issues back then, or were those mystical experiences enough on their own for them to diagnose you with psychosis?

Harold Anderson3 said:I wouldn't exactly call myself a believer, but whenever I’ve experienced that "something" more—that mystical sensation that defies any kind of verbal description—it has invariably led me straight into a psychotic episode and a stay at the psychiatric ward. I remember reading somewhere that "healthy believers" tend to have slightly higher dopamine levels compared to atheists, and in my case, the hallmark of my illness is an extremely high surge of that specific neurotransmitter. Brandon Lopez6, you know better than anyone what I'm up against. It makes me wonder if my medication, which works by bringing those dopamine levels down, might also be dampening that "healthy" spark of faith in God, or perhaps some other subtle connection we can't quite perceive directly. Since we're discussing this from a psychological perspective, I've come to think that depending on one's brain chemistry, you essentially have atheists, healthy believers, and then the fanatics who actually require psychiatric intervention. I'm also aware of instances where various charismatic leaders have pushed people into trances that ultimately resulted in hospitalizations due to acute psychosis.

Why is fanaticism even an issue if you're actually happy in that state?
People would just call it a "blessing"—I mean, isn't that how it used to be? Besides, those types of people were the ones writing holy books... you know, all the additions to the Bible and stuff.

Joseph Bailey41 said:Did you deal with other issues back then, or were those mystical experiences enough on their own for them to diagnose you with psychosis?

There were definitely other symptoms involved, though I think they all stem from the same root cause: an excess of dopamine in the brain, along with some kind of imbalance—either too much or too little—of other neurotransmitters.

Harold Anderson3 said:I wouldn't exactly call myself a believer, but whenever I’ve experienced that "something" more—that mystical sensation that defies any kind of verbal description—it has invariably led me straight into a psychotic episode and a stay at the psychiatric ward. I remember reading somewhere that "healthy believers" tend to have slightly higher dopamine levels compared to atheists, and in my case, the hallmark of my illness is an extremely high surge of that specific neurotransmitter. Brandon Lopez6, you know better than anyone what I'm up against. It makes me wonder if my medication, which works by bringing those dopamine levels down, might also be dampening that "healthy" spark of faith in God, or perhaps some other subtle connection we can't quite perceive directly. Since we're discussing this from a psychological perspective, I've come to think that depending on one's brain chemistry, you essentially have atheists, healthy believers, and then the fanatics who actually require psychiatric intervention. I'm also aware of instances where various charismatic leaders have pushed people into trances that ultimately resulted in hospitalizations due to acute psychosis.

That’s exactly what I was aiming for. But honestly? It’s a pretty bittersweet feeling to actually be right about this.

Thomas Nelson25 said:Why is fanaticism even an issue if you're actually happy in that state?
People would just call it a "blessing"—I mean, isn't that how it used to be? Besides, those types of people were the ones writing holy books... you know, all the additions to the Bible and stuff.

So you're asking why anyone would even bother treating psychosis? Honestly, it’s a fair question if you haven't been through the wringer. It’s not just about "fixing" someone because they're acting weird; it's about the fact that when your brain starts playing tricks on you, reality becomes a total minefield. I remember this one buddy of mine back in Chicago—guy was brilliant, but once the episodes hit, he couldn't tell if his neighbor was a government spy or just a guy taking out the trash. It's terrifying. You treat it because nobody should have to live in a world where they can't trust their own eyes. It's about getting some ground under your feet again so you aren't constantly spinning out.
Rly? 😁

Brandon Lopez6 said:If that's true, then why is religion still such a massive thing?
Is a delusion somehow more acceptable just because it’s widespread instead of individual?

If not, then why not?
What's really the difference between believing in God or an Alien?

And one last thing—why is believing in Aliens treated like some kind of psychosis or losing touch with reality, while believing in God gets a free pass?

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Alright, you guys wanted "expert topics," so please, go ahead and teach me something 🙂.

People who are truly religious find their sense of purpose and meaning through God pretty easily—they also believe that when life hits them hard, God has a plan or a specific path laid out for them. That's why for most people, faith isn't just about buildings, rituals, or icons... it's a necessity. Personally, I'm just not a religious person, and honestly, I feel like much of Western civilization has messed people up by stripping spirituality right out of their lives. The downside of belief, though, is how easily it leads to manipulation... I mean, people have started wars in the name of God, which is just pure stupidity, and honestly, more people have died over religious reasons than almost anything else, but yeah...

Harold Anderson3 said:There were definitely other symptoms involved, though I think they all stem from the same root cause: an excess of dopamine in the brain, along with some kind of imbalance—either too much or too little—of other neurotransmitters.

But how do you actually measure those neurotransmitter levels?

Thomas Nelson25 said:Why is fanaticism even an issue if you're actually happy in that state?
People would just call it a "blessing"—I mean, isn't that how it used to be? Besides, those types of people were the ones writing holy books... you know, all the additions to the Bible and stuff.

It isn't really a problem as long as you can still function normally in your day-to-day life, whether you're a devout believer or not. Honestly, I find myself a little envious of people who naturally have slightly higher dopamine levels; they seem able to feel something more than just the basic reality, which makes them appear much more content than I usually am.

Brandon Lopez6 said:That’s exactly what I was aiming for. But honestly? It’s a pretty bittersweet feeling to actually be right about this.

So you're asking why anyone would even bother treating psychosis? Honestly, it’s a fair question if you haven't been through the wringer. It’s not just about "fixing" someone because they're acting weird; it's about the fact that when your brain starts playing tricks on you, reality becomes a total minefield. I remember this one buddy of mine back in Chicago—guy was brilliant, but once the episodes hit, he couldn't tell if his neighbor was a government spy or just a guy taking out the trash. It's terrifying. You treat it because nobody should have to live in a world where they can't trust their own eyes. It's about getting some ground under your feet again so you aren't constantly spinning out.
Rly? 😁

What are the symptoms when it involves religious delusions—and why is getting help actually necessary? 😛

Thomas Nelson25 said:What are the symptoms when it involves religious delusions—and why is getting help actually necessary? 😛

I’ve been wondering the exact same thing. I was just watching an interview with Pavun on YouTube, and honestly, the guy seems clearly psychotic, yet nobody thinks he needs help. So why would it be mandatory for Harold Anderson3 or anyone else?

(Just thinking out loud here—I don't want anyone to think I'm actually trying to push this kind of thing on anyone. 😳)

Harold Anderson3 said:It isn't really a problem as long as you can still function normally in your day-to-day life, whether you're a devout believer or not. Honestly, I find myself a little envious of people who naturally have slightly higher dopamine levels; they seem able to feel something more than just the basic reality, which makes them appear much more content than I usually am.

So you're dealing with depression then? Like, your mood is just constantly bottomed out?

According to transpersonal psychology, those folks have basically expanded their ego—or what's called the "self"—into a sense of wholeness, in a nutshell.

Joseph Bailey41 said:But how do you actually measure those neurotransmitter levels?

Of course you don't need to run tests on every single patient, and honestly, it isn't even really possible to do so. Instead, we look at things indirectly by observing the specific symptoms a person is experiencing. That said, modern psychology has reached a consensus that pretty much every mental health condition stems from an imbalance in the brain's neurotransmitters—and there are about twenty different types to consider. This understanding comes from decades of various scientific studies and research.

Harold Anderson3 said:Of course you don't need to run tests on every single patient, and honestly, it isn't even really possible to do so. Instead, we look at things indirectly by observing the specific symptoms a person is experiencing. That said, modern psychology has reached a consensus that pretty much every mental health condition stems from an imbalance in the brain's neurotransmitters—and there are about twenty different types to consider. This understanding comes from decades of various scientific studies and research.

I'm still a little skeptical about the direct cause-and-effect relationship here. For instance, if someone gets worked up and their blood pressure spikes (or drops because they have a phobia of needles), we wouldn't say the change in blood pressure actually caused their feelings of anger or fear.

Thomas Nelson25 said:So you're dealing with depression then? Like, your mood is just constantly bottomed out?

According to transpersonal psychology, those folks have basically expanded their ego—or what's called the "self"—into a sense of wholeness, in a nutshell.

I suppose that’s just how it goes. It is incredibly difficult to fine-tune medication dosages without constantly swinging between feeling completely depressed and hitting those manic highs associated with schizophrenia and similar disorders, so you really have to figure it out as you go. It’s a bit of a balancing act where if you take too much, you end up feeling like a total zombie, but if you don't take enough, it feels like the whole world belongs to you—and honestly, neither of those extremes is a healthy place to be. You're basically spending your time searching for that narrow, steady middle ground between those two extremes.

Joseph Bailey41 said:I’ve been wondering the exact same thing. I was just watching an interview with Pavun on YouTube, and honestly, the guy seems clearly psychotic, yet nobody thinks he needs help. So why would it be mandatory for Harold Anderson3 or anyone else?

(Just thinking out loud here—I don't want anyone to think I'm actually trying to push this kind of thing on anyone. 😳)

Since he’s Catholic and claims he found Jesus, maybe that wild behavior—even if you debate how "out of control" it really is—is being chalked up to the Holy Spirit. (Though, hey, maybe I've got that wrong.) 🙄

Personally, I find what they say in different languages way more fascinating... like those churches where they sing Gospel and everyone just gets swept up and falls into a trance.
Feels like a sort of self-hypnosis to me.

Hallelujah, sister. 😁