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Can money actually buy happiness?

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wanderingpanther68 wanderingpanther68 Active Member
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#121 ·
swiftmaker722 said:Just list everything you’ve ever bought with actual money—your house or apartment, the internet service you rely on, that laptop you’re typing on right now, even the heating keeping you warm—then try responding to this post. Or, better yet, go hug a tree and attempt to reply from there so we can see if it's even possible to communicate or exchange any real thoughts on this thread.

Oh, please. You're just running in circles here. 😵I have all those things and I’m not even remotely happy,
just like millions of other people who possess everything you listed but still feel completely unfulfilled..

I already pointed out that money will simply make you less miserable, and that’s really the extent of it.
Honestly, does anyone actually feel happy these days? It feels like those people don't even exist... it's an illusion.

Sure, you might experience a moment of happiness, but it’s fleeting, barely a blink in time..

Human nature is basically wired such that we always feel like something is missing; no matter what we own, we’ll always
be dissatisfied, constantly craving more and more and more. It’s never enough, leaving us perpetually restless and unhappy. -.-
We spend our entire lives chasing the next thing..

Obviously, it's better to be wealthy than to be broke and struggling, but we’ve already covered that ground.. there’s no point in rehashing the same old argument.
No one here is actually claiming that being penniless is somehow superior😉

Anyway, I’m on the same page as @Brandon Lopez6 .. and I honestly don't have anything left to add to this discussion.🙂
John Gonzalez252 John Gonzalez252 Newcomer
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#122 ·
wanderingpanther68 said:I agree 👍; I’ve definitely felt that deep frustration when there wasn't enough food on the table, but if that situation suddenly flipped around, I wouldn't magically become "happy." I’d probably feel a little more settled, sure, but then life would just drag me back into its usual chaos, new problems would start cropping up, and I’d find myself unhappy all over again, regardless of
having enough to eat or a roof over my head.

Life is incredibly unpredictable, and we honestly have no clue what tomorrow holds... there will always be issues, whether you have cash in the bank or not. So, to me, this whole debate feels a bit childish—like
we're living in some cartoon where having millions of dollars instantly erases every struggle. In reality, you could get hit by a car tomorrow, lose someone you love, deal with a breakup, jealousy, injustice—there's a million things that can wreck your happiness. Money might make you slightly less miserable, but that’s about it. You can even end up
dealing with death threats if you're wealthy enough, which pretty much ruins any chance of a peaceful night's sleep.

Besides, what kind of happiness are we even talking about here—something fleeting or something lasting? It's impossible to be happy all the time, let's be real. xD

So, are we implying that everyone sitting on millions is just blissfully happy? 🤣

Honestly, I think someone who moves out to the woods to live among animals would be far happier than those folks living in mansions and driving Ferraris; those people are often
deeply unfulfilled and, just like the rest of us, quite miserable deep down. 😉

Happiness is really just a state of mind. Someone scavenging through a dumpster could, in a specific moment, feel more joy than a millionaire, depending entirely on how
that individual processes their struggles and what they happen to be going through at that exact second.

Money buys you a smoother, more comfortable existence, but it doesn't buy happiness, because every new day brings a new headache.
It really comes down to the individual; some people just can't be satisfied... if you can't find contentment in the little things, you won't find it in the big ones either.
For me, happiness is that first cup of coffee in the morning, a nice walk, stuff like that... and simply not feeling exhausted or in pain.
When I have that sense of inner peace, that’s my greatest treasure and my true happiness.

I couldn't agree more. I know plenty of wealthy individuals who are genuinely happy and radiate positivity, but they had a solid foundation long before the money rolled in. We’re talking about things like love, family support, and that kind of stuff. These are people who actually know who they are—they might practice meditation, focus on gratitude, or simply live their lives as if they don't even need the cash. And strangely enough, that’s exactly when the money tends to find them. I recently watched a video by Serena Williams about attracting wealth, and honestly, her perspective on the subject is quite brilliant. Life is inevitably going to throw curveballs at you; some people get hit harder than others, I suppose. But a lack of funds just adds this extra layer of misery to whatever suffering you're already dealing with. That’s why practicing gratitude is so vital. Take my old boss, for example. Every single morning, he was in a foul mood. If you dared to ask him a simple question, he’d respond with this incredibly arrogant, grouchy attitude. Yet, despite his temperament, the man is loaded. He’s got a fleet of brand-new luxury cars and multiple properties; he makes a killing running his own company. It really made me think—if I had that kind of money, I’d be jumping for joy, whereas right now, I’m basically struggling just to keep the lights on after getting a notice that the utility company is about to shut everything off. 🙂 🙂 I suppose if I actually had all that wealth, I’d just fall into a predictable routine, and then I'd probably find some other way to suffer. It’s a bit of a catch-22, isn't it? You shouldn't pin your entire sense of happiness on money, but then again, you can't exactly ignore it when you don't have enough—and let's be honest, having sufficient funds is vital for basic survival and personal growth, both physically and psychologically. It's all quite complicated.
wanderingpanther68 wanderingpanther68 Active Member
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#123 ·
Maybe we should call this topic "Can money actually buy momentary happiness?" if we're going to be pedantic about it.
In my view, if we're talking about fleeting moments of joy, you can find that in things just as easily as with cash, like petting a stray cat or a dog
you run into on a sidewalk, having a deep chat with someone you care about, catching a great song on the radio,
or when a stranger gives you a genuine compliment, for instance.

It all really just depends on how life decides to deal its cards to you..

I was recently reading this heartbreaking account from a woman who survived a sexual assault when she was nineteen; now she’s thirty, both her parents have passed away, and her sister is struggling quite a bit..
it’s the kind of tragedy you can't even wrap your head around, and despite being quite well-off, none of that wealth matters to her right now.
She would gladly trade every cent of her fortune and all her assets just to bring her parents back and erase that trauma from her past.. she’d almost certainly choose a much poorer
existence if it meant her parents were still alive and she hadn't been victimized, but that's the catch—we have no idea what life has in store for us, or whether a massive bank account will even matter when the storm hits.

Personally, I think an excessive amount of money would probably just ruin me and drive me crazy, potentially leading me down a dark path, because I know myself to be a pretty unstable person.

Like I mentioned on previous threads, we aren't psychics and we can't predict what tomorrow brings, so while too much money might plunge some people into chaos, others might use it quite wisely; it really comes down to the individual. 😉

Having enough to cover the essentials is one thing, but then we fall into the old debate over what "enough" actually looks like, or why humans are perpetually
dissatisfied—even when they possess beautiful things, something else inevitably starts to ache, and it just goes on in circles.

To me, true happiness is found in making someone else happy. There's such a profound sense of fulfillment in helping someone out; it makes for a truly meaningful day.

People ought to strive for spiritual fulfillment rather than material gain.. sure, we all feel a little spark of joy when we have the cash for new sneakers or a new iPhone, but
what kind of happiness is that? It lasts a few hours, if that.. and by tomorrow, we've already moved on to the next craving, and the cycle never ends.

It's a cliché, I know, but for people struggling with addiction, a massive windfall would likely just be their undoing, leading to an overdose and a final goodbye; for some, it's actually better
to live without that kind of money, because everyone's destiny is different, and no two lives follow the same script.
Sarah Nguyen96 Sarah Nguyen96 Member
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#124 ·
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_h...KcIqpIYLsFbBeA

The guy has money and he’s happy because of it. Period.

If he wasn't wealthy, he'd just be stuck at a computer playing video games to escape reality, just like 80% of young people today—and honestly, older generations are starting to follow suit.
wanderingpanther68 wanderingpanther68 Active Member
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#125 ·
Sarah Nguyen96 said:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_h...KcIqpIYLsFbBeA

The guy has money and he’s happy because of it. Period.

If he wasn't wealthy, he'd just be stuck at a computer playing video games to escape reality, just like 80% of young people today—and honestly, older generations are starting to follow suit.

Lol

How can you even tell if he's happy? He looks pretty miserable to me in that photo.

You really can't judge someone's entire state of being just by watching a few videos.☕

Oh yeah, because material possessions are definitely the secret to long-term fulfillment... I'm sure he has his own set of struggles just like anyone else.

He's probably miserable deep down; who knows what kind of thoughts are actually racing through his head right before he goes to sleep.
Brandon Lopez6 Brandon Lopez6 Regular
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#126 ·
Using social media as some kind of yardstick for actual happiness is honestly naive (and pretty toxic).

I can post selfies on Facebook or Instagram where I look like I’m having the time of my life, all while sitting at home feeling like absolute garbage.
But if someone scrolling through their feed doesn't actually know me—someone who can't tell the difference between a genuine smile and one I just forced for the camera—they’re gonna think I’m doing damn well.

Sure, you can buy a quick hit of dopamine, but for me, that high wears off fast.
Like wanderingpanther68 says—get a new iPhone or some fancy gadget, and I'll feel great for maybe two days before I get used to it and start eyeing something else.
Sarah Nguyen96 Sarah Nguyen96 Member
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#127 ·
wanderingpanther68 said:Lol

How can you even tell if he's happy? He looks pretty miserable to me in that photo.

You really can't judge someone's entire state of being just by watching a few videos.☕

Oh yeah, because material possessions are definitely the secret to long-term fulfillment... I'm sure he has his own set of struggles just like anyone else.

He's probably miserable deep down; who knows what kind of thoughts are actually racing through his head right before he goes to sleep.

Actually, I think I can. This guy has been posting every single day for three years now. I haven't seen him break down once. He’s always smiling and cruising through life. He's clearly enjoying himself while thousands of people spend their workdays watching him live his best life.

His dad probably funds the whole thing. He lives a totally carefree existence. Maybe the only thing missing is a partner. Honestly, he's better off this way. Even if he did find a boyfriend, it wouldn't change much. For all we know, that guy in the last video might actually be his boyfriend. Who knows...
wanderingpanther68 wanderingpanther68 Active Member
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#128 ·
Brandon Lopez6 said:Using social media as some kind of yardstick for actual happiness is honestly naive (and pretty toxic).

I can post selfies on Facebook or Instagram where I look like I’m having the time of my life, all while sitting at home feeling like absolute garbage.
But if someone scrolling through their feed doesn't actually know me—someone who can't tell the difference between a genuine smile and one I just forced for the camera—they’re gonna think I’m doing damn well.

Sure, you can buy a quick hit of dopamine, but for me, that high wears off fast.
Like wanderingpanther68 says—get a new iPhone or some fancy gadget, and I'll feel great for maybe two days before I get used to it and start eyeing something else.

Exactly, that's what I mean; I actually think the guy posting above is deeply unhappy, which is probably why he keeps sharing clips like that, because people who are truly content don't feel this desperate need to flaunt
their wealth for everyone to see. 🙂
Sarah Nguyen96 Sarah Nguyen96 Member
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#129 ·
True happiness comes from freedom, and money is exactly what buys you that liberty. There’s nothing worse than being a slave to your paycheck, grinding out 180 hours a month just to scrape together a tiny bit of independence.

With this guy, it’s actually the reverse. Money serves him; it acts like a lifelong servant rather than his master.
John Gonzalez252 John Gonzalez252 Newcomer
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#130 ·
Claiming that wealthy people are secretly miserable deep down feels like a tired stereotype to me. Honestly, it sounds more like a way to comfort people who are struggling or haven't quite made it—sort of like that whole "rich people cry too" cliché. Maybe the guy in this video is dealing with some truly trivial nonsense, like deciding whether to pick up a red or yellow Ferrari, or debating if he should have a BBQ tomorrow or just order a steak at a high-end steakhouse with a bottle of fine wine.

I think going to extremes here is a bit much. Obviously, money isn't going to fix everything for that girl. But look at it this way: alongside things like assault or losing your parents, it would be an even bigger tragedy if someone had plenty of money but still lacked the will to live because they were drowning in depression while having to grind through twelve-hour shifts with toxic people.

Like I’ve mentioned before, life is inherently difficult. However, living without money makes it significantly harder, and for most people, a lack of funds creates massive problems and frustrations.

Some wealthy individuals are always striving for something more. Perhaps that's just because they are ambitious, and there really is something wonderful about the feeling of building something from scratch. I suppose God gave us the ability to work and create because God is a creator, and that gift was passed down to us.

We all strive for money because it allows us to live without constant stress and struggle. But there are certain aspects of life that simply aren't tied to a bank account. Money can't wipe away those specific types of suffering.
wanderingpanther68 wanderingpanther68 Active Member
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#131 ·
John Gonzalez252 said:Claiming that wealthy people are secretly miserable deep down feels like a tired stereotype to me. Honestly, it sounds more like a way to comfort people who are struggling or haven't quite made it—sort of like that whole "rich people cry too" cliché. Maybe the guy in this video is dealing with some truly trivial nonsense, like deciding whether to pick up a red or yellow Ferrari, or debating if he should have a BBQ tomorrow or just order a steak at a high-end steakhouse with a bottle of fine wine.

I think going to extremes here is a bit much. Obviously, money isn't going to fix everything for that girl. But look at it this way: alongside things like assault or losing your parents, it would be an even bigger tragedy if someone had plenty of money but still lacked the will to live because they were drowning in depression while having to grind through twelve-hour shifts with toxic people.

Like I’ve mentioned before, life is inherently difficult. However, living without money makes it significantly harder, and for most people, a lack of funds creates massive problems and frustrations.

Some wealthy individuals are always striving for something more. Perhaps that's just because they are ambitious, and there really is something wonderful about the feeling of building something from scratch. I suppose God gave us the ability to work and create because God is a creator, and that gift was passed down to us.

We all strive for money because it allows us to live without constant stress and struggle. But there are certain aspects of life that simply aren't tied to a bank account. Money can't wipe away those specific types of suffering.

Now, I'm not saying her job isn't absolutely soul-crushing, but honestly, having some kind of work to do would probably be better than just sitting within four walls, simply because it gives the mind something else to focus on.
A former friend of mine once mentioned that after his mother passed away, he actually felt a lot better once he got back into the swing of his job, mostly because staying busy helped keep those dark thoughts at bay.
But anyway, I shouldn't go off on a tangent here. 😉
wanderingpanther68 wanderingpanther68 Active Member
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#132 ·
Sarah Nguyen96 said:Actually, I think I can. This guy has been posting every single day for three years now. I haven't seen him break down once. He’s always smiling and cruising through life. He's clearly enjoying himself while thousands of people spend their workdays watching him live his best life.

His dad probably funds the whole thing. He lives a totally carefree existence. Maybe the only thing missing is a partner. Honestly, he's better off this way. Even if he did find a boyfriend, it wouldn't change much. For all we know, that guy in the last video might actually be his boyfriend. Who knows...

I can't quite recall the name right now, but there was this other guy who was also incredibly wealthy, driving all these high-end cars but completely unable to handle relationships, and since he was so abrasive toward women, he
ended up killing several of them... it was all over the news cycles a few years back.
restlesstiger49 restlesstiger49 Regular
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#133 ·
Benjamin Taylor90 said:Money just smooths out the edges of life. If you're already miserable—say, someone who’s lonely but actually has their finances in order—a sudden windfall from a Chase account isn't going to fix a single thing about your existence. Been there, done that.

Let me rephrase this my way.
Is a person happier if they have enough to cover their needs, or if they're sitting on millions or billions? 🍿

It's debatable..

Can money actually buy happiness for the middle class or the wealthy? 🍿

Exactly! It lifts that heavy weight of existential dread off your shoulders, and let's be honest, it lets you jump on medical solutions way faster if something actually goes wrong.
When you have a sensible amount of cash to handle those basics, your mind is free to actually function. You can focus on chasing those genuine moments of joy instead of just surviving. Plus, I truly believe that when people aren't constantly stressed about bills, they tend to be much happier and far better at spreading that positive energy to everyone else. 🙂
Dana Mendoza3 Dana Mendoza3 Newcomer
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#134 ·
Look, money is a necessary evil—period. You can’t live without it, even if it obviously can’t buy the stuff that actually matters, like real love, true friendship, loyalty, or that bond you have with your kids... but let's be real, having cash makes life a hell of a lot easier when you're trying to cover the basics. I’m probably the most romantic person you’ll ever meet—I live for long walks, watching the sunset, a solid hug from a friend, some kind words, a smile, or just seeing my kids happy... but you still need funds to survive this harsh reality. When you're broke, it wrecks both your mind and your body—trust me, I've been there. It's a vicious cycle where you're working a minimum wage job just to keep the lights and water on, and then you're stuck choosing between buying school books and sneakers for your kid or paying the rent. Sometimes you don't even have enough left over to buy yourself a pair of socks. It's a nightmare. And even with all the money in the world, there are things you just can't buy back: lost time, my late father, my parents, friends scattered across the country, or my own health.
John Gonzalez252 John Gonzalez252 Newcomer
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#135 ·
wanderingpanther68 said:Now, I'm not saying her job isn't absolutely soul-crushing, but honestly, having some kind of work to do would probably be better than just sitting within four walls, simply because it gives the mind something else to focus on.
A former friend of mine once mentioned that after his mother passed away, he actually felt a lot better once he got back into the swing of his job, mostly because staying busy helped keep those dark thoughts at bay.
But anyway, I shouldn't go off on a tangent here. 😉

That’s just the truth. I know from my own experience that when I’m not working, I start to lose my mind—it gets incredibly boring, and things start feeling heavy. If he were to hit the jackpot in the Powerball, he’d probably just open his own business; he'd be relieved of the pressure, sure, but he’d still want to be doing something productive.
Sarah Nguyen96 Sarah Nguyen96 Member
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#136 ·
wanderingpanther68 said:I can't quite recall the name right now, but there was this other guy who was also incredibly wealthy, driving all these high-end cars but completely unable to handle relationships, and since he was so abrasive toward women, he
ended up killing several of them... it was all over the news cycles a few years back.

The guy was just spoiled. Everything was handed to him on a silver platter. As soon as he hit an obstacle, he acted out like a toddler.
Are you talking about the son of that famous Hollywood director who used to film everything for YouTube?

His father is just as much to blame. He probably wasn't around much when the kid was growing up because he was too busy chasing his career. How are you supposed to raise a well-adjusted child if your work always comes first?
wanderingpanther68 wanderingpanther68 Active Member
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#137 ·
Sarah Nguyen96 said:The guy was just spoiled. Everything was handed to him on a silver platter. As soon as he hit an obstacle, he acted out like a toddler.
Are you talking about the son of that famous Hollywood director who used to film everything for YouTube?

His father is just as much to blame. He probably wasn't around much when the kid was growing up because he was too busy chasing his career. How are you supposed to raise a well-adjusted child if your work always comes first?

I have a nagging feeling that was the one... 😉
swiftmaker722 swiftmaker722 Newcomer
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#138 ·
Sarah Nguyen96 said:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_h...KcIqpIYLsFbBeA

The guy has money and he’s happy because of it. Period.

If he wasn't wealthy, he'd just be stuck at a computer playing video games to escape reality, just like 80% of young people today—and honestly, older generations are starting to follow suit.

In that scenario, money essentially purchased his version of happiness—luxury cars.

One must consider the origin of the wealth: was he born into it with trust fund parents, or did he actually hustle to earn it? Those are two fundamentally different realities. In the first instance, money is a given; they don't necessarily view it as "happiness," but rather as a tool to maintain a superior position over everyone else—which, let’s be honest, isn't quite the same thing as being happy, is it?
Sarah Nguyen96 Sarah Nguyen96 Member
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#139 ·
swiftmaker722 said:In that scenario, money essentially purchased his version of happiness—luxury cars.

One must consider the origin of the wealth: was he born into it with trust fund parents, or did he actually hustle to earn it? Those are two fundamentally different realities. In the first instance, money is a given; they don't necessarily view it as "happiness," but rather as a tool to maintain a superior position over everyone else—which, let’s be honest, isn't quite the same thing as being happy, is it?

I wouldn't go that far. People born into money see it as normal. They don't feel the need to act superior. Usually, it's the people who grew up with nothing—the ones who were picked on in school because they were poor—who try to act big once they finally make it. They use their success to look down on others.
driftingbear29 driftingbear29 Active Member
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#140 ·
I would have bought some! Honestly, I was just at Folko yesterday around two in the afternoon, and there was this elderly woman out there selling flowers despite the freezing weather. Not a single other vendor was sitting there; it was just her. It actually made me feel quite heavy-hearted as I walked by. And I haven't been able to stop thinking about it since! If I had a mountain of cash, I’d buy every last flower she had. I'd spend my days finding ways to help people—maybe just brightening someone's day, or perhaps finding a way to improve their living conditions for the long haul...

Money isn't happiness itself, but it is a tool you can use to help others in so many different ways. 🙂🙂 Seeing people struggle with such scarcity and difficult living conditions really weighs on me.

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