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Can you still appeal a final ruling from the Supreme Court?

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cosmicpuma84 cosmicpuma84 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
Hey... so here’s the situation. Back in September 2016, I got pulled over by some highway patrol guys for doing 1.75 over the limit—yeah, yeah, don't laugh. After everything settled, I had to head to court, and the judge handed down a sentence of three months and a $2,100 fine. I paid the whole thing up front, thinking we were good, but apparently, the prosecution decided to appeal. Even though I thought I was in the clear to keep my license, I find out later that the paperwork went all the way up to the appellate court. Then, just a few days ago, I get hit with a new ruling: five months without a license plus even more fines. To make matters worse, I just had my second kid a week ago... this timing couldn't be any worse. It's a massive problem because I've been waiting nearly a year and a half for this verdict, and in all that time, I haven't had a single other ticket or anything on my record... thanks
rapidnomad322 rapidnomad322 Member
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joined Nov 2014
#2 ·
cosmicpuma84 said:Hey... so here’s the situation. Back in September 2016, I got pulled over by some highway patrol guys for doing 1.75 over the limit—yeah, yeah, don't laugh. After everything settled, I had to head to court, and the judge handed down a sentence of three months and a $2,100 fine. I paid the whole thing up front, thinking we were good, but apparently, the prosecution decided to appeal. Even though I thought I was in the clear to keep my license, I find out later that the paperwork went all the way up to the appellate court. Then, just a few days ago, I get hit with a new ruling: five months without a license plus even more fines. To make matters worse, I just had my second kid a week ago... this timing couldn't be any worse. It's a massive problem because I've been waiting nearly a year and a half for this verdict, and in all that time, I haven't had a single other ticket or anything on my record... thanks

Honestly, if it were up to me, I’d take someone's license away for life for stuff like that. I mean, you're out there driving with almost a .40 BAC? You're lucky you didn't kill anyone. Just deal with it and stop complaining about how the laws are set up; in a halfway decent country, you wouldn't have gotten off so easy.
cosmicpuma84 cosmicpuma84 NewcomerOP
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#3 ·
Look, there’s a massive difference between someone hitting a 0.5 BAC because they made some reckless, stupid decision behind the wheel, and someone who’s actually a regular drinker—someone who might just have one too many and suddenly finds themselves spiraling toward a 0.5% level... it can happen to anyone, really. I know women who have one single beer and they're already stumbling around like they don't even know where they are.
I wasn't looking for any "brilliant" critiques here—just wanted to hear from people who actually understand how these situations play out in the real world...
vividraven26 vividraven26 Active Member
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joined May 2014
#4 ·
It’s a felony rather than misdemeanor.
So now you just sit around waiting for the cops to send over the official notice about when the ban actually kicks in.
The whole thing is wrapped up tight since there aren't any more appeals left to file.
cosmicpuma84 cosmicpuma84 NewcomerOP
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#5 ·
Alright, so I guess I can still drive around without a care in the world until that notice actually hits my mailbox... thanks for clearing that up.
vividraven26 vividraven26 Active Member
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#6 ·
Spot on.
rapidnomad322 rapidnomad322 Member
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joined Nov 2014
#7 ·
cosmicpuma84 said:Look, there’s a massive difference between someone hitting a 0.5 BAC because they made some reckless, stupid decision behind the wheel, and someone who’s actually a regular drinker—someone who might just have one too many and suddenly finds themselves spiraling toward a 0.5% level... it can happen to anyone, really. I know women who have one single beer and they're already stumbling around like they don't even know where they are.
I wasn't looking for any "brilliant" critiques here—just wanted to hear from people who actually understand how these situations play out in the real world...

Well, it looks like you actually have a brain in there, which is good, but honestly, you should probably just listen to the lectures instead of risking someone's life! I kind of wish you'd lose your license, but hey, I guess that's probably not gonna happen...
vividraven26 vividraven26 Active Member
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#8 ·
rapidnomad322 said:Well, it looks like you actually have a brain in there, which is good, but honestly, you should probably just listen to the lectures instead of risking someone's life! I kind of wish you'd lose your license, but hey, I guess that's probably not gonna happen...

Oh, please. It’ll happen when it happens, and it's definitely happening.
rapidnomad322 rapidnomad322 Member
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joined Nov 2014
#9 ·
vividraven26 said:Oh, please. It’ll happen when it happens, and it's definitely happening.

Honestly, I think I’d go for the permanent version 😁
vividraven26 vividraven26 Active Member
170 messages
joined May 2014
#10 ·
Right now, there just isn't a fix available for that one "reliable" train line.
casualpuma71 casualpuma71 Active Member
51 messages
joined Nov 2021
#11 ·
cosmicpuma84 said:Look, there’s a massive difference between someone hitting a 0.5 BAC because they made some reckless, stupid decision behind the wheel, and someone who’s actually a regular drinker—someone who might just have one too many and suddenly finds themselves spiraling toward a 0.5% level... it can happen to anyone, really. I know women who have one single beer and they're already stumbling around like they don't even know where they are.
I wasn't looking for any "brilliant" critiques here—just wanted to hear from people who actually understand how these situations play out in the real world...

If you actually care about "smart" criticism, maybe try thinking for two seconds before you attempt to kill someone. Driving with a 0.15% BAC isn't an accident; it's attempted murder. The fact that you're used to driving like that is genuinely terrifying.

The way you use slang to downplay it just shows how little this matters to you. It isn't a game. People are dying because of people like you.
vividraven26 vividraven26 Active Member
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#12 ·
So, who exactly is supposed to be the victim in this attempted murder case?
casualpuma71 casualpuma71 Active Member
51 messages
joined Nov 2021
#13 ·
Anyone who might just happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
vividraven26 vividraven26 Active Member
170 messages
joined May 2014
#14 ·
I mean, once that guy actually pulls up and catches him, it could easily just be a case of reckless driving at most, not some actual attempt at murder.
casualpuma71 casualpuma71 Active Member
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#15 ·
Driving drunk is basically just picking up a shotgun and firing blindly into a crowd; if you hit someone, well, you hit them. To me, there isn't much of a distinction between that and premeditated murder.

I’m all for implementing zero tolerance for drunk drivers—we should be looking at immediate, permanent license revocations.
vividraven26 vividraven26 Active Member
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#16 ·
Just firing a gun blindly isn't an attempted murder, plain and simple.
I mean, you need actual intent behind it, right? And since there’s zero intent here—not to mention a bunch of other legal requirements missing—you just can't call it that.
casualpuma71 casualpuma71 Active Member
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#17 ·
When I say we’re looking at attempted murder, I’m not getting hung up on the technical legal jargon or what some prosecutor would file in court. It’s strictly my own interpretation of what it means to get behind the wheel while drunk. I get the sense you all understand that already, yet there's this persistent urge to correct me.
vividraven26 vividraven26 Active Member
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#18 ·
I mean, you could go ahead and tell yourself the stars are cruising through space on jet engines if it makes you feel better, but we all know that’s just plain wrong. If this stuff is actually accurate, then fine, sure, you can look at it that way, but if someone didn't bother to write it correctly, then they’re just looking for trouble elsewhere.
It’s like how some guy stumbling down a sidewalk in downtown Chicago, absolutely wasted, could suddenly be charged with attempted murder just because he might accidentally bump into someone, right?
casualpuma71 casualpuma71 Active Member
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joined Nov 2021
#19 ·
vividraven26 said:I mean, you could go ahead and tell yourself the stars are cruising through space on jet engines if it makes you feel better, but we all know that’s just plain wrong. If this stuff is actually accurate, then fine, sure, you can look at it that way, but if someone didn't bother to write it correctly, then they’re just looking for trouble elsewhere.
It’s like how some guy stumbling down a sidewalk in downtown Chicago, absolutely wasted, could suddenly be charged with attempted murder just because he might accidentally bump into someone, right?

Sure, technically. But he’d have to work a hell of a lot harder to actually kill anyone.
vividraven26 vividraven26 Active Member
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#20 ·
Honestly, once he actually goes after him, we'll finally see if it counts as self-defense or just straight-up attempted murder—and I don't mean because he's drunk, I mean because he actually did something wrong. Just walking down the street? That's not a crime, right?

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