Raising the next generation in this harsh world

I’ll try to keep this brief, and hopefully, I won't wander too far off track. I’m avoiding the Parenting subforum because I’m more interested in hearing from the younger crowd—those of you who might actually be considering starting a family in a few years.

This is a global question, though I suspect my own perspective is heavily colored by what we're seeing here in the States.

So, here it is: The big one. Do you actually want to bring one, two, three, or more children into this increasingly brutal world?

Now, don't get me wrong—I'm not claiming things were perfect in the past and everything is falling apart now. But if you look at the macro trends, we seem to be heading in a downward direction. Human connection is fraying, and the gap between the boss and the worker is widening; projections suggest we'll see even more billionaires and even more people living paycheck to paycheck.

We move from the grueling grind of modern education and those empty promises of upward mobility straight into a daily struggle just to stay afloat. Eventually, you find yourself asking why you're even working in the first place. Is it just to survive?

I think I’ve made my point. :P

What makes the world feel harsher today than it did 50—or even 100—years ago?

He used to be much more ruthless.
Back then, that was just how things worked, before we got all these modern notions about life needing to be comfortable.😁

I just don't have any desire to have children.

By ditching conservative values, communism basically rewired our parents
and shoved an entirely different set of morals down their throats. Even though they love to claim how "great" the old days were—despite things clearly being a mess now—the truth is they can’t actually credit the system for the life they built. It was their own conservative roots that did the heavy lifting, even if the regime managed to brainwash their kids. You see the fallout in us—the generation born under the USA—in this total lack of accountability. We inherited this mindset that someone else is always going to swoop in and fix our problems, and that we don't ever have to take the blame when we screw up. Modern democracy is basically just cultural Marxism in disguise, and honestly? It’s why Europe is circling the drain.

The communist era didn't raise its children, and let's be real, today's broken system isn't doing much better. Looking ahead, I’m putting my money on a conservative revival. I truly believe we'll see a shift where all this mindless hedonism and the complete disregard for what our ancestors bled to build gets replaced by actual sacrifice for our kids and a sense of duty toward the future. Personally? I plan on having as many kids as my square footage allows—which, let's say, is at least 20 per person—and I am more than ready to ditch liberalism and all those other modern nonsense trends that just breed depression. I want to fulfill my mission: building a family. Some call it Protestant, but I call it trying to channel that classic German work ethic. Most of the shitty interpersonal relationships we see today stem from this modern era where men don't grind like they used to—back when a man worked hard outside and his wife held down the fort—and because that foundation is gone, infidelity creeps in. If you can't keep things straight in your own backyard, why should anyone expect you to act right in society?

Life has always been a bit more brutal for some people than others. And just as unpredictable.
Honestly, you might’ve had better luck posting this on RID. You would've gotten some actual reality checks instead of just wishful thinking.

So, to have kids or not? If you ask me, the real deciding factor is answering questions like: will your life actually be better with them in it, or without them? Can you provide them with a solid upbringing? Are you truly ready for all the sacrifices involved... As for everything else, nobody really knows what's coming anyway.

Samuel Sanders6 said:I’ll try to keep this brief, and hopefully, I won't wander too far off track. I’m avoiding the Parenting subforum because I’m more interested in hearing from the younger crowd—those of you who might actually be considering starting a family in a few years.

This is a global question, though I suspect my own perspective is heavily colored by what we're seeing here in the States.

So, here it is: The big one. Do you actually want to bring one, two, three, or more children into this increasingly brutal world?

Now, don't get me wrong—I'm not claiming things were perfect in the past and everything is falling apart now. But if you look at the macro trends, we seem to be heading in a downward direction. Human connection is fraying, and the gap between the boss and the worker is widening; projections suggest we'll see even more billionaires and even more people living paycheck to paycheck.

We move from the grueling grind of modern education and those empty promises of upward mobility straight into a daily struggle just to stay afloat. Eventually, you find yourself asking why you're even working in the first place. Is it just to survive?

I think I’ve made my point. :P

The point is that we have to create new life—that's biological, it's natural, it's just what happens.
It isn't "normal" to claim we shouldn't have kids just because the world is harsh...
The world has always been harsh and always will be—war, famine, economic crashes, sickness—through all of that, people have lived for ages and they always will.
Life is a gift, and without new life, there is no future, there is no us...
The West, with its megalomaniacal selfishness and its high-end lifestyle compared to the rest of the world, has totally lost its way. Today's generations don't want to create and raise children because they're selfish—they want to enjoy life, they want the best for themselves, they don't want responsibilities, and they ask totally stupid questions just like the author of this thread did. Basically, people will find a thousand excuses to justify their selfish need to indulge and secure a comfortable existence. By definition, life isn't comfortable; it's brutal, and only the toughest survive that brutality. The West has become soft, weak, and pampered by its own ego compared to the rest of the world, and it's paying the price—it's declining and it's going to keep declining. Around here, slowly but surely, space is being taken over by those who create life regardless of fears and challenges, proving they are stronger, more resourceful, and more adaptable... and as such, they will survive...
Life is tough and incredibly resilient; we should never fear for our children—they'll survive any hardship because we are living proof of that. Any family that can't manage to raise an average of 2-3 kids hasn't paid back the world for what previous generations left them. They're living on borrowed time and stealing resources from the world. There are no guarantees of a smooth ride—war, famine, a crash, or an epidemic could turn paradise into hell overnight—but even in that hell, people live and will continue to live, usually with even more passion and vitality, which is just biologically normal... a person who has nothing wants to work and build, to pull themselves out of a bad situation, while a person who has everything is asleep at the wheel, just trying to hold onto their current status and power...

Samuel Sanders6 said:I’ll try to keep this brief, and hopefully, I won't wander too far off track. I’m avoiding the Parenting subforum because I’m more interested in hearing from the younger crowd—those of you who might actually be considering starting a family in a few years.

This is a global question, though I suspect my own perspective is heavily colored by what we're seeing here in the States.

So, here it is: The big one. Do you actually want to bring one, two, three, or more children into this increasingly brutal world?

Now, don't get me wrong—I'm not claiming things were perfect in the past and everything is falling apart now. But if you look at the macro trends, we seem to be heading in a downward direction. Human connection is fraying, and the gap between the boss and the worker is widening; projections suggest we'll see even more billionaires and even more people living paycheck to paycheck.

We move from the grueling grind of modern education and those empty promises of upward mobility straight into a daily struggle just to stay afloat. Eventually, you find yourself asking why you're even working in the first place. Is it just to survive?

I think I’ve made my point. :P

I suppose I should probably find some words to express what I'm thinking, though it's proving a bit difficult at the moment.
Observing the young people I work with, I can't help but feel that their path isn't easy, yet they somehow manage to find their footing in this relentless, unforgiving modern world. I am certainly not suggesting that things were simpler in previous generations; everyone has always had to fight to find their own place in the sun, but the reality is that the landscape has shifted significantly. It perhaps feels to us that the struggle is more intense than it used to be, though I wonder if that is merely our own perception.
I suspect that parenting has actually become significantly more taxing in this day and age, largely because it feels nearly impossible to monitor what children are doing during their downtime or in those quiet, late-night hours when they are tucked away online. Everything is right at their fingertips, yet parents remain largely oblivious to the constant stream of content their children are being exposed to daily. It seems to me that, perhaps more than ever before, a child's character is being shaped by their environment—with the media serving as the primary architect.
Perhaps I am overthinking things; maybe the whole situation isn't quite as complicated as it appears to me.

Donna White50 As stated by:
The fundamental truth is that we are meant to bring new life into this world; it is a biological necessity, a natural progression, and quite simply, the most normal thing in existence.
It feels somewhat irrational to believe that we should refrain from having children simply because the world can be such a harsh and unforgiving place.
The world has always been a harsh place, and truth be told, it likely always will be; we face endless cycles of war, famine, economic collapses, and disease, yet despite all that suffering, humanity somehow persists through the ages and will continue to endure.
Life itself is our greatest wealth, and without the renewal of new life, there can be no future for us to look forward to.
The West has become lost in its own megalomaniacal selfishness, living with an air of superiority that ignores the reality of the rest of the world. Today’s generations seem to have lost the desire to build anything lasting or to raise children, choosing instead to prioritize personal indulgence and immediate gratification over responsibility; they simply want the best for themselves without any of the heavy lifting, often asking questions that lack any real substance, much like the author of this thread. It seems we will always find a thousand different excuses just to justify our selfish need for comfort and ease. By its very definition, life isn't supposed to be comfortable—it is harsh, and only the most resilient can truly endure it. We have become soft, weak, and blinded by our own self-interest compared to the rest of the globe, and I fear we are paying the price through a slow, deserved decline. Slowly but surely, the space is being reclaimed by those who continue to build lives despite their fears and challenges, proving through their actions that they are stronger, more resourceful, and better adapted to survive.
Life possesses a certain stubborn resilience and an incredible capacity to adapt; I truly believe we should never fear for our children’s future, as they will navigate any adversity, much as we have done ourselves. It seems to me that any family unable to raise at least two or three children is failing to repay the generational debt owed to the world, essentially living off a surplus of selfishness while consuming resources that belong to the future. There are no absolute guarantees in this life—war, famine, economic collapses, or pandemics could turn paradise into a wasteland overnight—yet even in such darkness, humanity finds a way to persist, often with a renewed, primal vigor that feels almost biologically inevitable. There is a profound drive in those who have nothing to build and create their way out of hardship, whereas those who already possess everything often fall into a lethargy, focused only on preserving their existing status and power.

I must say, I am truly humbled to hear that my posts consistently resonate with you in such a meaningful way. 🍿

Donna White50 said:The point is that we have to create new life—that's biological, it's natural, it's just what happens.
It isn't "normal" to claim we shouldn't have kids just because the world is harsh...
The world has always been harsh and always will be—war, famine, economic crashes, sickness—through all of that, people have lived for ages and they always will.
Life is a gift, and without new life, there is no future, there is no us...
The West, with its megalomaniacal selfishness and its high-end lifestyle compared to the rest of the world, has totally lost its way. Today's generations don't want to create and raise children because they're selfish—they want to enjoy life, they want the best for themselves, they don't want responsibilities, and they ask totally stupid questions just like the author of this thread did. Basically, people will find a thousand excuses to justify their selfish need to indulge and secure a comfortable existence. By definition, life isn't comfortable; it's brutal, and only the toughest survive that brutality. The West has become soft, weak, and pampered by its own ego compared to the rest of the world, and it's paying the price—it's declining and it's going to keep declining. Around here, slowly but surely, space is being taken over by those who create life regardless of fears and challenges, proving they are stronger, more resourceful, and more adaptable... and as such, they will survive...
Life is tough and incredibly resilient; we should never fear for our children—they'll survive any hardship because we are living proof of that. Any family that can't manage to raise an average of 2-3 kids hasn't paid back the world for what previous generations left them. They're living on borrowed time and stealing resources from the world. There are no guarantees of a smooth ride—war, famine, a crash, or an epidemic could turn paradise into hell overnight—but even in that hell, people live and will continue to live, usually with even more passion and vitality, which is just biologically normal... a person who has nothing wants to work and build, to pull themselves out of a bad situation, while a person who has everything is asleep at the wheel, just trying to hold onto their current status and power...

Look, in my twenty-five years, I've been fairly selfless, and looking at the people around me, I've lived quite modestly—if not outright poor.

And honestly, I would gladly sacrifice even more just to see my children have an easier path than I did. But those are just dreams.

As for everyone else—and I'm not just talking about the old US—I watched a documentary on England where they noted that forty or fifty years ago, previous generations found it much easier to acquire property and had better living conditions.

I'm not saying things were always better, but despite the massive horrors of the last half-century (like the two World Wars), I think there was more optimism back then, and the lower-middle class definitely had a better quality of life.

Nowadays, you're either broke or you're loaded; the middle ground is shrinking, and that's a global reality.

In the end, this is a topic for Psychology. Maybe having kids would be better, but right now, even considering my age, I have zero desire, zero motivation, and zero courage to fight for it, because, at least in my case, every single day is already a fight for survival.

Zero. ☕

Samuel Sanders6 said:Look, in my twenty-five years, I've been fairly selfless, and looking at the people around me, I've lived quite modestly—if not outright poor.

And honestly, I would gladly sacrifice even more just to see my children have an easier path than I did. But those are just dreams.

As for everyone else—and I'm not just talking about the old US—I watched a documentary on England where they noted that forty or fifty years ago, previous generations found it much easier to acquire property and had better living conditions.

I'm not saying things were always better, but despite the massive horrors of the last half-century (like the two World Wars), I think there was more optimism back then, and the lower-middle class definitely had a better quality of life.

Nowadays, you're either broke or you're loaded; the middle ground is shrinking, and that's a global reality.

In the end, this is a topic for Psychology. Maybe having kids would be better, but right now, even considering my age, I have zero desire, zero motivation, and zero courage to fight for it, because, at least in my case, every single day is already a fight for survival.

It always felt better back then. But let's be real, the average person today lives better than the wealthy did 50 years ago—that's just progress from technology and civilization, so you'd think our kids will enjoy a better future too.

But yeah, this technological race for a "better tomorrow" comes with a price. We're working harder instead of smarter, machines are taking over jobs, we have to be more educated and skilled, and we pay more because we own more.
The issue is our own selfishness, irresponsibility, and greed—it's catching up to us. We can't seem to fix these socio-economic issues, so we're suffering for it. We don't have time to actually raise kids because we're too busy working to pay for the house, the car, the new iPhone, the kitchen, the washer, the chandelier... everything. And the worst part? We want our kids to follow these same stupid ideas, so we basically pass our nonsense down to them.
My kid will have a decent life. If it turns out a bit worse, well, that's just reality—some people have it way tougher, and hey, maybe things will get better. If not here, then somewhere else in the world. I'm not worried about people here; nobody is starving, and if we all just pull together and treat each other right, we'll be fine. Nobody's claiming the gap between the rich and the poor will vanish forever, but even if it stays, you can make it work even if you're broke. It's not like we were all born with silver spoons, so we don't *have* to be rich. Is a poor person's life worth less? Are they less happy just because they don't have a designer sofa and have a basic one instead? You might be surprised by how relative happiness actually is...

Donna White50 said:It always felt better back then. But let's be real, the average person today lives better than the wealthy did 50 years ago—that's just progress from technology and civilization, so you'd think our kids will enjoy a better future too.

But yeah, this technological race for a "better tomorrow" comes with a price. We're working harder instead of smarter, machines are taking over jobs, we have to be more educated and skilled, and we pay more because we own more.
The issue is our own selfishness, irresponsibility, and greed—it's catching up to us. We can't seem to fix these socio-economic issues, so we're suffering for it. We don't have time to actually raise kids because we're too busy working to pay for the house, the car, the new iPhone, the kitchen, the washer, the chandelier... everything. And the worst part? We want our kids to follow these same stupid ideas, so we basically pass our nonsense down to them.
My kid will have a decent life. If it turns out a bit worse, well, that's just reality—some people have it way tougher, and hey, maybe things will get better. If not here, then somewhere else in the world. I'm not worried about people here; nobody is starving, and if we all just pull together and treat each other right, we'll be fine. Nobody's claiming the gap between the rich and the poor will vanish forever, but even if it stays, you can make it work even if you're broke. It's not like we were all born with silver spoons, so we don't *have* to be rich. Is a poor person's life worth less? Are they less happy just because they don't have a designer sofa and have a basic one instead? You might be surprised by how relative happiness actually is...

Personally, I’m not even chasing wealth—what does that term even mean in this economy?—but the widening chasm between the elite and everyone else is undeniable. The middle class is essentially being hollowed out.

I’ve never been much for these technological marvels anyway. Watching my parents struggle through it all, I don't see any reason to force that same cycle onto the next generation.

Happiness—call it whatever helps you sleep at night—is a reality for plenty of people, often across entire generations. Sure, there are fools who manage to ruin their own lives, but many people find genuine contentment simply through good fortune. Every family deals with its own set of headaches, obviously, but the scale varies. Some people just happen to catch a lucky break.

Samuel Sanders6 said:I’ll try to keep this brief, and hopefully, I won't wander too far off track. I’m avoiding the Parenting subforum because I’m more interested in hearing from the younger crowd—those of you who might actually be considering starting a family in a few years.

This is a global question, though I suspect my own perspective is heavily colored by what we're seeing here in the States.

So, here it is: The big one. Do you actually want to bring one, two, three, or more children into this increasingly brutal world?

Now, don't get me wrong—I'm not claiming things were perfect in the past and everything is falling apart now. But if you look at the macro trends, we seem to be heading in a downward direction. Human connection is fraying, and the gap between the boss and the worker is widening; projections suggest we'll see even more billionaires and even more people living paycheck to paycheck.

We move from the grueling grind of modern education and those empty promises of upward mobility straight into a daily struggle just to stay afloat. Eventually, you find yourself asking why you're even working in the first place. Is it just to survive?

I think I’ve made my point. :P

Look, the world is a tough place right now, but let's be real: there is never going to be a "perfect" time to have kids.
If you want them, just do it now—because if you wait, making that decision later on will feel ten times harder.

I know things feel incredibly unstable today, but honestly, people have always found a way to raise their children—even if it meant breaking their backs working manual labor.
Once you have kids, you somehow tap into this superhuman strength to do whatever it takes just to keep them fed.

Bringing the dead back to life. We're living in this digital world that just can't last much longer. It's all an illusion, blurring the flow of the river and the glow of the sun.

analogviper9 said:Look, the world is a tough place right now, but let's be real: there is never going to be a "perfect" time to have kids.
If you want them, just do it now—because if you wait, making that decision later on will feel ten times harder.

I know things feel incredibly unstable today, but honestly, people have always found a way to raise their children—even if it meant breaking their backs working manual labor.
Once you have kids, you somehow tap into this superhuman strength to do whatever it takes just to keep them fed.

Sure, someone will feed them. They won't starve. We can agree on that.

But there's a difference between mere survival and actually building something meaningful. I've spent my own life just trying to stay afloat, and if I'm sticking around, my primary goal should be leaving things better than I found them for the next generation.

And frankly? That's an incredibly tall order. It might even be impossible.

Samuel Sanders6 said:Sure, someone will feed them. They won't starve. We can agree on that.

But there's a difference between mere survival and actually building something meaningful. I've spent my own life just trying to stay afloat, and if I'm sticking around, my primary goal should be leaving things better than I found them for the next generation.

And frankly? That's an incredibly tall order. It might even be impossible.

I hear you.

But look, if we all approach life with that kind of mindset, nobody would ever have kids!
You’d spend your whole life waiting to graduate college, then waiting to land a decent job, then waiting to find a house or an apartment... it’s just a never-ending cycle of "not yet."😉

If you want children, just get out there and start working.😁

Samuel Sanders6 said:Personally, I’m not even chasing wealth—what does that term even mean in this economy?—but the widening chasm between the elite and everyone else is undeniable. The middle class is essentially being hollowed out.

I’ve never been much for these technological marvels anyway. Watching my parents struggle through it all, I don't see any reason to force that same cycle onto the next generation.

Happiness—call it whatever helps you sleep at night—is a reality for plenty of people, often across entire generations. Sure, there are fools who manage to ruin their own lives, but many people find genuine contentment simply through good fortune. Every family deals with its own set of headaches, obviously, but the scale varies. Some people just happen to catch a lucky break.

At the end of the day, it really just boils down to whether you actually have the income to support kids or not...
Look, most of us nowadays—basically because we're constantly being fed all this nonsense by the media and everything else the West pushes—are putting off having kids... We just want to focus on our careers first, find ourselves, actually enjoy life, or wait until we have enough money saved up to support a kid...
Look, you know the type—the ones who just find a way to make it work, somehow scraping by or pivoting when things get tight. It’s true, nobody’s saying it’s a walk in the park if you can't even swing enough cash to hit up the local grocery store... but hey, we don't exactly live on a desert island. We've got parents, siblings, friends, neighbors, extended family... all that. It’s funny, though—you see people who, in our skewed logic, probably shouldn't be having kids because they're struggling financially (or wouldn't choose to be in their shoes if they were being realistic), yet they have kids and somehow manage to pull it off perfectly fine. Of course, it's stressful and demanding, but people step up. Everyone lends a hand because they know families need support—parents ask for help, they find it, and in the end, everything usually works out okay...

Basically, the main thing is just keeping our heads straight—you know, staying mentally sound... because if our health goes south, our bank accounts won't matter much anyway. Health is easily the most important thing we've got, but let's be real, there's zero guarantee you'll stay healthy whether you're rolling in cash or struggling to pay the bills. We're all pretty much in the same boat...

Look, here’s how I see it—you just need a job, some steady income, and a decent little place to crash... and then you can have kids without overthinking the whole thing. Trust me, you eventually figure out the money for diapers, strollers, cute little outfits, and everything else a kid needs. In theory, you’d probably want something like $50,000 or $60,000 a year to support a family, but in reality? People make it work with way less. You pick up extra shifts, maybe a side hustle, someone helps you out with a gift or a hand here and there... it all works itself out in the end...

Donna White50 said:At the end of the day, it really just boils down to whether you actually have the income to support kids or not...
Look, most of us nowadays—basically because we're constantly being fed all this nonsense by the media and everything else the West pushes—are putting off having kids... We just want to focus on our careers first, find ourselves, actually enjoy life, or wait until we have enough money saved up to support a kid...
Look, you know the type—the ones who just find a way to make it work, somehow scraping by or pivoting when things get tight. It’s true, nobody’s saying it’s a walk in the park if you can't even swing enough cash to hit up the local grocery store... but hey, we don't exactly live on a desert island. We've got parents, siblings, friends, neighbors, extended family... all that. It’s funny, though—you see people who, in our skewed logic, probably shouldn't be having kids because they're struggling financially (or wouldn't choose to be in their shoes if they were being realistic), yet they have kids and somehow manage to pull it off perfectly fine. Of course, it's stressful and demanding, but people step up. Everyone lends a hand because they know families need support—parents ask for help, they find it, and in the end, everything usually works out okay...

Basically, the main thing is just keeping our heads straight—you know, staying mentally sound... because if our health goes south, our bank accounts won't matter much anyway. Health is easily the most important thing we've got, but let's be real, there's zero guarantee you'll stay healthy whether you're rolling in cash or struggling to pay the bills. We're all pretty much in the same boat...

Look, here’s how I see it—you just need a job, some steady income, and a decent little place to crash... and then you can have kids without overthinking the whole thing. Trust me, you eventually figure out the money for diapers, strollers, cute little outfits, and everything else a kid needs. In theory, you’d probably want something like $50,000 or $60,000 a year to support a family, but in reality? People make it work with way less. You pick up extra shifts, maybe a side hustle, someone helps you out with a gift or a hand here and there... it all works itself out in the end...

Anyway, I won't argue or respond anymore; everyone is entitled to their own perspective.

Speaking of that "help"—any kind of support—it makes me think of my own parents, and honestly, I'm an even more extreme example of their struggle.

They were lucky enough to have jobs where they could grind away at home like maniacs and actually build something back then. Sure, they sacrificed a lot, but looking at them now? They have nothing to show for it. Once you hit 40, you start feeling the weight of those months where you worked 15-hour days or dragged yourself out of bed at 3:00 AM...

And despite how many people will try to deny it—and they have every right to—things are even worse now. I wouldn't wish that kind of struggle, just trying to keep my kids and myself afloat, on anyone.

Enough!

Samuel Sanders6 said:Anyway, I won't argue or respond anymore; everyone is entitled to their own perspective.

Speaking of that "help"—any kind of support—it makes me think of my own parents, and honestly, I'm an even more extreme example of their struggle.

They were lucky enough to have jobs where they could grind away at home like maniacs and actually build something back then. Sure, they sacrificed a lot, but looking at them now? They have nothing to show for it. Once you hit 40, you start feeling the weight of those months where you worked 15-hour days or dragged yourself out of bed at 3:00 AM...

And despite how many people will try to deny it—and they have every right to—things are even worse now. I wouldn't wish that kind of struggle, just trying to keep my kids and myself afloat, on anyone.

Enough!

How old are you, anyway?

Do you even want kids?

Samuel Sanders6 said:Anyway, I won't argue or respond anymore; everyone is entitled to their own perspective.

Speaking of that "help"—any kind of support—it makes me think of my own parents, and honestly, I'm an even more extreme example of their struggle.

They were lucky enough to have jobs where they could grind away at home like maniacs and actually build something back then. Sure, they sacrificed a lot, but looking at them now? They have nothing to show for it. Once you hit 40, you start feeling the weight of those months where you worked 15-hour days or dragged yourself out of bed at 3:00 AM...

And despite how many people will try to deny it—and they have every right to—things are even worse now. I wouldn't wish that kind of struggle, just trying to keep my kids and myself afloat, on anyone.

Enough!

But hey, listen, it’s not like everyone *has* to have kids. Some people just aren't in a position to make that happen. And it’s definitely not responsible to bring kids into the world if you can't even cover the basics, you know? Like, how are you supposed to...🤔
Otherwise, there's no argument here, and the points you made aren't exactly wrong.
So, do you actually want kids like Vitalina was asking? Do you have a partner, what's her take on it, and do you guys actually have the means to raise them...?
All three things need to line up...