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The Power of Humility

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feralranger feralranger Regular
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#201 ·
Matthew Castillo5 said:Actually, no. That’s just being submissive. Humility is a completely different beast.

Humility is really just the flip side of arrogance. And let’s be honest—nobody actually likes people who are stuck-up, cocky, or full of themselves.

I find myself wondering if we can apply a sense of gradation or comparison to this spectrum.

Could one perhaps categorize individuals into tiers such as:

the most humble
somewhat humble
generally humble
those who occupy the neutral middle ground, neither humble nor arrogant
the arrogant
somewhat arrogant
the most arrogant

In your estimation, which of these categories represents the ideal state of being?
And, if you are inclined to indulge my curiosity, which group would you place yourself in?
Joseph Bailey41 Joseph Bailey41 Veteran
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#202 ·
Quincy:
most humble
humbler
humble
those who are neither humbled nor arrogant
arrogant
more arrogant
most arrogant
Visually, this looks great to me—almost like a song shaped like an axe. 😁

But I have a feeling that humility or arrogance might be more of a state of being rather than just a fixed personality trait.
feralranger feralranger Regular
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#203 ·
I am inclined to believe that one might characterize many politicians as being quite arrogant—though, in the realm of politics, such hubris tends to be rather infectious.

Even the dictionary would concur with my assessment.

arrogance
the defining trait of someone who is arrogant
Betty Patel172 Betty Patel172 Member
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#204 ·
Joseph Bailey41 said:Except I don't live in an apartment. I live out in the woods. Can you raise your consciousness enough to feel like you and the forest are one? 🤔

The bears and the wilderness are part of you, just as you are part of them.😁
Matthew Castillo5 Matthew Castillo5 Regular
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#205 ·
feralranger said:I find myself wondering if we can apply a sense of gradation or comparison to this spectrum.

Could one perhaps categorize individuals into tiers such as:

the most humble
somewhat humble
generally humble
those who occupy the neutral middle ground, neither humble nor arrogant
the arrogant
somewhat arrogant
the most arrogant

In your estimation, which of these categories represents the ideal state of being?
And, if you are inclined to indulge my curiosity, which group would you place yourself in?

I suppose it could work that way.

I try my hardest not to be arrogant, but let's be real—I don't always pull it off. So, I usually land somewhere in those middle three categories.
Maria Parker77 Maria Parker77 Active Member
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#206 ·
Melissa Rogers4 said:Of course they can find workers. They just need to offer better benefits, but those big-shot tourism moguls won't budge. Now they're getting exactly what they deserve for being so cheap. Honestly, I'm kind of enjoying watching this play out...

That’s some real deep stuff right there... maybe try brushing your teeth instead.
Melissa Rogers4 said:I kind of agree, though I don't think "new" ideas should be used as an excuse to shut down those kinds of discussions. It’s also not helpful to dismiss different perspectives by saying, "well, it doesn't matter what you think or what you call it." That feels especially hollow when you're talking about something like humility, since the person pushing the idea ends up contradicting themselves just by how they act...

Basically, 😁nothing

these aren't even "new" concepts, let alone some club to hit people with... this is a tool, one of many, for self-work. The real question is whether this is true—does it actually work?—rather than how cleverly you can snap back at forum users or take a moral high ground.
There's nothing to respond to because you clearly don't get it, and honestly, you can't, because these words don't even mean anything to you. That judgmental, aggressive, hyper-critical version of "spirituality" you're peddling is miles away from this. This process is about going inward.

And you still haven't answered: what "spiritual business" or scam am I supposed to be running? Are you implying I should be making a profit off this? Is that what you think?
If you're gonna accuse me, show me the receipts. Show me the proof.

I'm really not a fan of all this constant talking about me, and frankly, you can't just make stuff up like that. 😘
hollowpuma762 hollowpuma762 Active Member
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#207 ·
Melissa Rogers4 said:I kind of agree, though I don't think "new" ideas should be used as an excuse to shut down those kinds of discussions. It’s also not helpful to dismiss different perspectives by saying, "well, it doesn't matter what you think or what you call it." That feels especially hollow when you're talking about something like humility, since the person pushing the idea ends up contradicting themselves just by how they act...

If you’re looking to just spin in circles forever... So, what’s the verdict on this whole thing? What are we actually thinking about the situation? Give me your honest takes. And then there’s all this nitpicking about language barriers and inherent bias... honestly, give me a break. At the end of the day, anyone can dream up whatever nonsense they want and have a little fun with their own creations. Who's actually going to stop someone from just letting their imagination run wild?

If the whole point is just to be alone... then what's the rest of this even for? The concept. That’s what it always boils down to, isn't it? Everything starts with some grand, sweeping idea that sounds brilliant in a boardroom or over a beer, only to hit the cold, hard reality of how things actually work on the ground. We talk about "concepts" like they’re magic bullets, but most of the time, they’re just polished illusions waiting to be dismantled by common sense. It's all just theory until someone actually has to deal with the fallout. Look, once the final whistle blows, it doesn't matter what people think they saw on the first replay. Seriously. People need to actually educate themselves before they start passing judgment. If you’re someone who actually gives a damn about the sport—someone who cares about the actual essence of the game—you’ll eventually have to shift your perspective. Following the literal letter of the rulebook or jumping to some "instant verdict" based on a ten-second clip? That's not how this works. It doesn't lead anywhere meaningful.

Look, this isn't some deep philosophical debate about "perspectives." Perspectives change all the time—you can look at the same damn thing from ten different angles and see ten different things. That’s just how it works. What we’re actually seeing here in this thread is a bunch of people looking at the exact same situation through a lens of pure bias and projection. It's messy. Some people just refuse to see what's right in front of them because their own distorted views create these little illusions, and then they end up tossing aside things that are actually pretty damn important. It's just more of the same.

Pointing out illusions isn't some kind of blow to your humility. Honestly? It’s the exact opposite. You can't actually absorb any real truth unless you've got that humility in your back pocket to begin with. But here's the kicker: when people lack that basic sense of being grounded, they become totally blind to the very thing they're missing. It's a joke. It's just a snake eating its own tail. A vicious, endless loop that you can only ever break by changing things from the inside out.

Ever wonder why so many people get stuck in that loop? You know the one. They’re told, "First, you need to build up these specific traits and polish those virtues until they actually stick. Only then can we move on to the whole 'questions and answers' phase." It's like they're being told to go out and build the entire foundation of a house before anyone is even allowed to ask where the front door goes. Just a constant cycle of "prove yourself first, talk later."

People with massive egos would honestly rather live in some delusional fantasy where they’re somehow superior to everyone else than face the cold, hard truth about where they actually stand. It's pathetic, really. When reality starts poking holes in that little bubble they've built, the backlash is always instant. You can't force someone to see the truth when they're too busy pretending they've already made it. They react negatively because facing the facts means admitting their entire self-image is a lie.

Look, if you can actually stomach a bad first impression without immediately folding, you might actually get somewhere in this life. There’s real potential there. But most people? Most people just cling to that initial sting. They let a rough start define their entire worldview and decide that being comfortable is more important than being resilient. They prioritize ease over everything else, and that’s how they end up stuck in Ego's sandbox forever. I see it happening constantly. It's everywhere once you start looking.
Everyone gets a say. Everyone gets to pull the trigger on their own decisions. But here’s the kicker—every single choice you make comes with its own set of consequences. You don't just pick a path and walk away clean; you live with whatever mess follows.
feralranger feralranger Regular
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#208 ·
Matthew Castillo5 said:I suppose it could work that way.

I try my hardest not to be arrogant, but let's be real—I don't always pull it off. So, I usually land somewhere in those middle three categories.

Well, that is precisely the pursuit of balance I am referring to...

To lift up the underestimated and offer encouragement where it is lacking, while simultaneously bringing the boastful back down to earth to make this world just a slightly more level playing field.

Regrettably, people tend to be quite sycophantic toward those "above" them while trampling over anyone "below," and then they express genuine shock when the absolute dregs of society inevitably climb to the top of the food chain in politics and major corporations.

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