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Neighbor is obsessed with running water—is this a mental health issue?

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Jacob Sullivan10 Jacob Sullivan10 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
The building I live in is dealing with a major headache involving one particular neighbor. This whole thing actually started a few years back, but lately, things have taken a much more serious turn. At first, we just noticed that someone would leave the water running overnight in the communal basement area—you know, where the utility sink and hose are kept for people to clean out their storage units or water their plants. It’s caused several floods because the drains simply couldn't keep up with the volume. Everyone in the building pretty much pointed the finger at one specific guy. The longtime residents had always suspected him because he apparently leaves his bathtub running full blast before heading off to work. I mean, the neighbors have been hearing about this for years; he supposedly just lets the water run all morning and afternoon. Well, after we recently installed security cameras in the hallways and common areas, it turns out he was the only one headed toward the basement one evening. His excuse was that he was just washing his bike and forgot to turn the tap off, though he insisted he wasn't usually the one responsible for these messes. We saw a huge spike in these incidents over the last two months, but ever since he got "caught," the problems have finally stopped. Still, I can't help but wonder what's actually going on here. Is this some kind of behavioral disorder, maybe something akin to pyromania? Or could it be an obsessive-compulsive issue? I don't want to jump to a third conclusion, but I haven't found anything online about this specific behavior, nor have I ever heard of anyone acting like this before. 🤔
Why would someone do this? Any ideas?
neonsailor26 neonsailor26 Active Member
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#2 ·
Perhaps someone just has this deep-seated desire to be the center of attention—to really have you focused solely on them.

I honestly can't say for sure, though—this is really just my own little theory...
Jack Jones7 Jack Jones7 Member
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#3 ·
I haven't heard anything about that either, though it makes sense that people can develop all sorts of fixations or addictions.🤷

It would be strange if this were an obsessive-compulsive disorder, since OCD is centered on control, and this is the exact opposite.
He just lets the water run and heads off to work, leaving everything up in the air. Like that massive flood we saw in the Midwest.
Jacob Sullivan10 Jacob Sullivan10 NewcomerOP
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#4 ·
Jack Jones7 said:I haven't heard anything about that either, though it makes sense that people can develop all sorts of fixations or addictions.🤷

It would be strange if this were an obsessive-compulsive disorder, since OCD is centered on control, and this is the exact opposite.
He just lets the water run and heads off to work, leaving everything up in the air. Like that massive flood we saw in the Midwest.

You have a point there. It’s certainly an interesting fixation, 😬. It’s something new for me, but I wanted to soak up some of your ideas so I could get a better handle on the whole situation.😁
Charles Lopez3 Charles Lopez3 Active Member
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#5 ·
Maybe they’re looking to squeeze more cash out of us through hiked-up water bills,
who knows,
or maybe they just want to screw everyone over?

So, what’s the deal with him—how do you guys actually feel about his track record?
rustynomad12 rustynomad12 Member
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joined Apr 2012
#6 ·
It’s not quite right... it feels more like a mild case of neurosis mixed with impulse control issues, because if things just stop—then it isn't really a ritual...
To me, this feels way more like kleptomania...
It’s like trying to soften the blow of an "impending disaster" by actually setting the stage for it to happen...
Just prepping for the inevitable for absolutely no reason at all...

Or maybe it's just a fixation, you know? Like some weird way of seeking "vengeance" against someone or something...
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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#7 ·
Charles Lopez3 said:Maybe they’re looking to squeeze more cash out of us through hiked-up water bills,
who knows,
or maybe they just want to screw everyone over?

So, what’s the deal with him—how do you guys actually feel about his track record?

I’m leaning toward the idea that this is just some sort of localized revolt—only, it feels a bit more pathological than your average neighborhood grievance.

We dealt with something similarly bizarre back at my apartment complex. There was this one guy who insisted on keeping his motorcycle right in the ground-floor common area. The smell of gasoline was constant—it’s not exactly pleasant—
and it was especially brutal for those of us living on the first floor. One neighbor on our floor would constantly complain about it, leaving the side service doors propped open just to catch a breeze.
Now, people definitely complained about the smell, but strangely enough, nobody seemed to care that the guy on the first floor was the one breathing it in the most.
Then, one afternoon, that same neighbor found his bicycle—which had been locked up in the shared storage area—with the air vents absolutely shredded.
Just dozens of tiny holes poked through with an awl.
He’s convinced the scooter owner did it, but he hasn't got a shred of proof. So, instead of taking action, he just keeps propping those doors open, creating a draft that drives everyone else crazy, because honestly, he doesn't have the guts to actually demand the scooter be moved.
Instead, everyone just ends up cursing out the guy leaving the doors open. And frankly, I can't blame them too much—the guy leaving the doors open is a bit of a joke himself, just a lonely bachelor with zero social life.
Lawrence Bailey77 Lawrence Bailey77 Regular
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#8 ·
Cooling down... water cooling... maybe just a cold shower running against a tiled wall while you stand there... back before air conditioning was a standard thing, that’s how we used to beat the heat.🙂

Then there’s this whole business regarding psychological disorders... it seems like it’s become a sort of fashion statement lately. It feels as though every single minor lapse in judgment or outburst of temper has to be categorized under some specific diagnosis—as if everyone requires a label just to make sense of their own behavior. I suppose I am merely asking, though.🙂

Perhaps a little more education and empathy toward the laws of gravity might be in order, ?😵
Jacob Sullivan10 Jacob Sullivan10 NewcomerOP
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#9 ·
Charles Lopez3 said:Maybe they’re looking to squeeze more cash out of us through hiked-up water bills,
who knows,
or maybe they just want to screw everyone over?

So, what’s the deal with him—how do you guys actually feel about his track record?

We don't really have any special relationships in our apartment building; we aren't particularly close. People mostly just communicate when it comes to building matters, you know, just as much as necessary. I haven't actually heard of any major disputes happening here. At least, two of us don't have any issues with the neighbors, and we try to be polite with everyone. Whether he had some kind of run-in with someone else, I guess we wouldn't know. It crossed my mind, but what I found interesting was the detail about him doing this inside his own apartment too. After he was "caught in the act," one neighbor mentioned they weren't surprised because they'd heard from an old friend who used to work with him that he did similar things even fifteen years ago at a previous job. For instance, he'd frequently leave the faucet running in the restroom before heading home from work 🤣. Still, I suppose I don't know if that story is entirely true or what the exact situation is 😬. This whole thing really made me wonder how there are people out there who are firebugs, or perhaps, in this case, water enthusiasts 😬. Maybe it's just his general way of getting back at people; that seems like the most likely explanation to me. Perhaps he's developed a bit of a fixation 🤣
Jacob Sullivan10 Jacob Sullivan10 NewcomerOP
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#10 ·
rustynomad12 said:It’s not quite right... it feels more like a mild case of neurosis mixed with impulse control issues, because if things just stop—then it isn't really a ritual...
To me, this feels way more like kleptomania...
It’s like trying to soften the blow of an "impending disaster" by actually setting the stage for it to happen...
Just prepping for the inevitable for absolutely no reason at all...

Or maybe it's just a fixation, you know? Like some weird way of seeking "vengeance" against someone or something...

Things have calmed down for now, but only for a few weeks. He went months without anything happening, and then there was that incident in the basement. The only thing is, over the last couple of months, it happened at least once a month 😬. I'm heading back home next week, so when I happen to run into him, I'll try to read his body language and facial expressions. Maybe I'll just go ahead and ask 😬 🤣
Lawrence Bailey77 Lawrence Bailey77 Regular
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#11 ·
Jacob Sullivan10 said:Things have calmed down for now, but only for a few weeks. He went months without anything happening, and then there was that incident in the basement. The only thing is, over the last couple of months, it happened at least once a month 😬. I'm heading back home next week, so when I happen to run into him, I'll try to read his body language and facial expressions. Maybe I'll just go ahead and ask 😬 🤣

Do you honestly think that would be a wise course of action? 🤣

🙂 Just imagine if everyone else treated you with that level of consideration. 😵

Forgive my sarcasm, but really... 😵

The priority here, I suppose, is ensuring Reddit is properly informed about what the neighbors are up to. ☕
Jacob Sullivan10 Jacob Sullivan10 NewcomerOP
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#12 ·
Lawrence Bailey77 said:Cooling down... water cooling... maybe just a cold shower running against a tiled wall while you stand there... back before air conditioning was a standard thing, that’s how we used to beat the heat.🙂

Then there’s this whole business regarding psychological disorders... it seems like it’s become a sort of fashion statement lately. It feels as though every single minor lapse in judgment or outburst of temper has to be categorized under some specific diagnosis—as if everyone requires a label just to make sense of their own behavior. I suppose I am merely asking, though.🙂

Perhaps a little more education and empathy toward the laws of gravity might be in order, ?😵

I suspect everyone else in the building already has their AC installed. I mean, I honestly don't see how he expects to cool down the entire building from the basement just to reach his own second or third floor. It seems a bit unlikely, doesn't it? 🤣 .
I suppose we all have this deep-seated urge to categorize things—to take the unknown, the vague, or even the potentially dangerous and shove them into neat little boxes. It’s almost like a psychological reflex, isn't it? I think we do it just to maintain some sort of illusion of control, a way to feel like we actually have a grip on things when we really don't. But honestly, instead of feeling that need to check in on how someone is doing, I find myself stuck on a much more pointed question. I feel this overwhelming impulse to ask what exactly you're trying to achieve here, and whether your ultimate goal is to drag us all down with you. 🤣 .
Jacob Sullivan10 Jacob Sullivan10 NewcomerOP
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#13 ·
Lawrence Bailey77 said:Do you honestly think that would be a wise course of action? 🤣

🙂 Just imagine if everyone else treated you with that level of consideration. 😵

Forgive my sarcasm, but really... 😵

The priority here, I suppose, is ensuring Reddit is properly informed about what the neighbors are up to. ☕

There's no need to be sarcastic; it was meant as a joke, which is why I added the :roflko at the end 😁

Come on, just admit it—you probably enjoy this kind of stuff too, deep down 😬 Instead of being mean and judging my curiosity regarding mental health issues, maybe you could actually help me understand people better 😬. I don't necessarily need to know a specific diagnosis; I just want to grasp how his mind perceives things, and what drives or feelings he experiences when he turns on the faucet 😬.
hiddeneagle98 hiddeneagle98 Regular
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#14 ·
If you’re stuck paying for water based on the square footage of your apartment—meaning the whole building is running off just one single meter—then your neighbor is straight-up playing you for a fool, probably out of some petty grudge or sheer spite.
Jacob Sullivan10 Jacob Sullivan10 NewcomerOP
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#15 ·
hiddeneagle98 said:If you’re stuck paying for water based on the square footage of your apartment—meaning the whole building is running off just one single meter—then your neighbor is straight-up playing you for a fool, probably out of some petty grudge or sheer spite.

We actually have our own individual meter for the unit. The only shared water is down in the basement, which we pay for through our HOA fees.
Lawrence Bailey77 Lawrence Bailey77 Regular
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#16 ·
Jacob Sullivan10 said:There's no need to be sarcastic; it was meant as a joke, which is why I added the :roflko at the end 😁

Come on, just admit it—you probably enjoy this kind of stuff too, deep down 😬 Instead of being mean and judging my curiosity regarding mental health issues, maybe you could actually help me understand people better 😬. I don't necessarily need to know a specific diagnosis; I just want to grasp how his mind perceives things, and what drives or feelings he experiences when he turns on the faucet 😬.

It is certainly a matter of personal choice, I suppose.👍>

Quincy:
Come on, just admit you actually enjoy this kind of thing too. You really do. :z ubo:
As for what I enjoy... I probably shouldn't discuss that on this forum.😛

Quincy:
Instead of being malicious and judging my curiosity regarding psychological disorders, maybe you could help me gain a better understanding of people. :zu bo:
.

Me... malicious?! 😲 I wonder why on earth you think you need assistance. 😉

Quincy:
Perhaps he could be helped.
Wait... him or you? What am I supposed to be here, some kind of neighborhood counselor? 🙂

Quincy:
I don't necessarily need to know the specific diagnostic code, I just want to understand how his mind perceives things, and what impulses or feelings arise when he turns on the faucet. :z ubo:.
Then why not reveal how your own mind perceives it? Isn't everything happening here arguably worthy of a diagnosis? I can't exactly observe your neighbor... I don't even know if the man exists. I only know what you tell me... and frankly, you are far more interesting, mostly because I can actually communicate with you, whereas with the neighbor, I'm stuck with telepathy or relying on you as a sort of broken telephone.

Just imagine if that neighbor were to start a thread on some other forum, claiming that his neighbor (you) is opening threads here asking for diagnoses for his behavior... wondering what might be going on in his neighbor's head. Maybe he likes me and is interested in my installations... maybe he's just acting out without any backbone... or perhaps he has sleep issues or concentration problems... or maybe he's just bored with life and counts raindrops while it pours... and so on and so forth. ☕

And who can say how endless the possibilities are once you open up questions that are actually of vital importance? In this tedious world, devoid of serious problems or existential inquiries, the behavior of neighbors seems to be the alpha and omega of all mental activity. 🙂

And what is YOUR take on this? If I may be so bold as to ask, why exactly do you hold that view? 😉
What is the actual significance of that information to you?
Where exactly do you draw the line when it comes to your own privacy?
Do you happen to have a list of your own medical diagnoses posted and presented on your personal bulletin board?
Jacob Sullivan10 Jacob Sullivan10 NewcomerOP
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#17 ·
Lawrence Bailey77 said:It is certainly a matter of personal choice, I suppose.👍>

Quincy:
Come on, just admit you actually enjoy this kind of thing too. You really do. :z ubo:
As for what I enjoy... I probably shouldn't discuss that on this forum.😛

Quincy:
Instead of being malicious and judging my curiosity regarding psychological disorders, maybe you could help me gain a better understanding of people. :zu bo:
.

Me... malicious?! 😲 I wonder why on earth you think you need assistance. 😉

Quincy:
Perhaps he could be helped.
Wait... him or you? What am I supposed to be here, some kind of neighborhood counselor? 🙂

Quincy:
I don't necessarily need to know the specific diagnostic code, I just want to understand how his mind perceives things, and what impulses or feelings arise when he turns on the faucet. :z ubo:.
Then why not reveal how your own mind perceives it? Isn't everything happening here arguably worthy of a diagnosis? I can't exactly observe your neighbor... I don't even know if the man exists. I only know what you tell me... and frankly, you are far more interesting, mostly because I can actually communicate with you, whereas with the neighbor, I'm stuck with telepathy or relying on you as a sort of broken telephone.

Just imagine if that neighbor were to start a thread on some other forum, claiming that his neighbor (you) is opening threads here asking for diagnoses for his behavior... wondering what might be going on in his neighbor's head. Maybe he likes me and is interested in my installations... maybe he's just acting out without any backbone... or perhaps he has sleep issues or concentration problems... or maybe he's just bored with life and counts raindrops while it pours... and so on and so forth. ☕

And who can say how endless the possibilities are once you open up questions that are actually of vital importance? In this tedious world, devoid of serious problems or existential inquiries, the behavior of neighbors seems to be the alpha and omega of all mental activity. 🙂

And what is YOUR take on this? If I may be so bold as to ask, why exactly do you hold that view? 😉
What is the actual significance of that information to you?
Where exactly do you draw the line when it comes to your own privacy?
Do you happen to have a list of your own medical diagnoses posted and presented on your personal bulletin board?

Lawrence Bailey77, I love you, really, but I don't have any intention of giving a serious answer to everything you just wrote. Maybe it's just that I'm a curious, meddling old lady who happens to be interested in what my neighbor is up to : D . I figured that "THAT" 🤣 might have some fancy little name, something like "pyromania," maybe "water-mania" or something similar, so I could look it up and read a bit more about it. 😬 But I suppose, according to you, even that counts as an invasion of privacy. 😬 Plus, next time I can try to act all intellectual in front of the neighbors by using a sophisticated term for whatever is bothering someone 🤣 (though I'll make sure to mention it's a joke, since it seems you aren't picking up on my sense of humor quite the same way I am : ) .
Anyway, Lawrence Bailey77 showed up and basically "Lawrence Bailey77-ed" my whole thread and me along with it. 😬 Now I really ought to include a proper signature 😬 : Jacob Sullivan10, the diagnosis hunter. And of course, Lawrence Bailey77, I don't exactly keep my own diagnoses displayed at my front door, right? It should be pretty obvious that I keep a little black book where I jot down everyone else's 🤣
Donna White50 Donna White50 Regular
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#18 ·
She’s clearly venting some frustration—she can't say it to his face, so she probably just lets it all out by running the water to clear her head...

Check out this wild archive I found from the Los Angeles Times:

San Diego police have arrested 51-year-old San Diego resident Melinda Gates, who spent the last few months engaging in some pretty bizarre behavior: slashing tires of cars parked right outside the City Retirees Association. Gates would hang out with the seniors at the Association, playing cards or chess, chatting and cracking jokes, then tell everyone he was stepping out for a quick breath of air—only to sneak over to the parking lot and puncture several tires with a long screwdriver. He'd then stroll right back into the group, sitting down with his retired buddies as if nothing had happened. For months, the retirees were totally baffled, constantly finding their tires slashed and whispering about some "phantom" vandal using a tool to ruin their cars. Eventually, one of them, John Doe, couldn't take it anymore. Being a retired cop, he set a little trap one evening and caught Melinda Gates red-handed—he was literally pulling a screwdriver out of a nearby hiding spot and heading toward a car.
- I watched a few different people first until I finally caught him. It's honestly unbelievable how long he terrorized us. Nobody in the Association could even relax anymore because tires were being slashed day after day. I caught Gates in the act, yelled at him, but honestly, I think the guy needs a psychiatrist – says John Doe.
At the local precinct where Gates was questioned, they said the investigation is still ongoing before it heads to the Department of Justice. A bunch of San Diego retirees have already filed claims for damages since their cars were targets: Brother Klarica had all four tires slashed twice, Slobodan Mršić lost two tires on two separate occasions, Joe Vedrić got hit seven times, John Doe had four tires punctured, and Gates even went after the three-wheeled scooter belonging to Ilija Margarin, a well-known local disabled veteran. Vlad Tomić, Boško Ćosić, Jure Grbić, and Jacob Božić were all victims too. All of this went down in the same parking lot right in front of the Association near the old military base, and now the retirees finally get why their buddy was so often "stepping out for fresh air" mid-game.

SAN DIEGO — A group of local retirees filed legal claims this Wednesday before Judge Boris Radman at the San Diego Municipal Court against 52-year-old Milka Hromić, who spent months slashing tires in the parking lot outside the City Retirees Association in San Diego. For months, the seniors dealt with the terror of an unknown "phantom with a screwdriver" who randomly targeted their vehicles, until they finally set an ambush within their own organization and caught Hromić. Charges for destruction of property have been filed, and prosecutor Tomislav Jurlina is seeking a fine for Hromić.
Instead of showing up to court, the defendant, Hromić, sent a telegram to the judge on Wednesday morning. "Please excuse my absence; I have to attend a check-up at the psychiatric hospital," Hromić wrote. The retirees were furious, pointing out he wasn't actually at the clinic since they had just spotted him hanging around his own yard. Judge Radman recorded the retirees' claims on Wednesday, amidst a loud outcry from the group regarding Hromić's failure to appear.
Hromić was a local who used to hang out with the retirees at the Association, playing cards and chess. He was always chatty and in good spirits, then he'd step out "for air." No one suspected a thing while he was grabbing a screwdriver from his stash to slash tires, because he'd always come back acting completely normal. This went on for months, repeatedly targeting people like Brother Klarica, Jure Grbić, Slobodan Mršić, Joe Vedrić, John Doe, and others, and he even slashed the tires on the modest three-wheeled scooter used by Ilija Margarin, a prominent local man with a disability.

The San Diego "Phantom with a Screwdriver" finally caught...
three months probation
SAN DIEGO — Look, I know what I did, and man, am I sorry. I feel terrible about the whole thing. I really regret it, and I promise—seriously, I promise—it’ll never happen again... said Milko Hromić (52) while standing in front of the San Diego Municipal Court. He ended up there because, for months, he was sneaking around in the dark outside the City Retirees Association, slashing the tires of his own buddies. Judge Boris Radman found Hromić guilty and handed him a three-month suspended prison sentence with a one-year probationary period.
In his defense, Hromić basically admitted to everything he popped. He told the court how much he regretted targeting his good friends—the same guys he’d sit and play cards or chess with at the Association over on Main Street while sipping on some cheap drinks. He even tried telling the judge that his mental health hasn't been the best lately. Since losing his job after things went south at his old workplace, he spends most of his time hanging out at the Association, mostly because the drinks there are dirt cheap...
Since this tire-slashing spree outside the Association dragged on for months, people in San Diego started calling him the "phantom with a screwdriver"—all because the retirees themselves didn't think to set a trap and figure out who was doing it. It was a total shock to them that it was actually one of their own friends—someone they'd just been playing games with—who kept doing it. Like, the guy once slashed the back tire on Joe Vedrić’s Vespa seven different times. Hromić was out there with his screwdriver from early June until late October last year, and he’s been convicted of property damage and destruction of property.
Jacob Sullivan10 Jacob Sullivan10 NewcomerOP
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joined Jun 2016
#19 ·
@ Donna White50, thanks for such a constructive and helpful post.
I think we’re definitely on the right track here.
The only issue is that this article—much like my own story about my neighbor—seems to be under fire because people are supposedly attacking their "privacy."🤣
Lawrence Bailey77 Lawrence Bailey77 Regular
302 messages
joined Mar 2015
#20 ·
Jacob Sullivan10 said:Lawrence Bailey77, I love you, really, but I don't have any intention of giving a serious answer to everything you just wrote. Maybe it's just that I'm a curious, meddling old lady who happens to be interested in what my neighbor is up to : D . I figured that "THAT" 🤣 might have some fancy little name, something like "pyromania," maybe "water-mania" or something similar, so I could look it up and read a bit more about it. 😬 But I suppose, according to you, even that counts as an invasion of privacy. 😬 Plus, next time I can try to act all intellectual in front of the neighbors by using a sophisticated term for whatever is bothering someone 🤣 (though I'll make sure to mention it's a joke, since it seems you aren't picking up on my sense of humor quite the same way I am : ) .
Anyway, Lawrence Bailey77 showed up and basically "Lawrence Bailey77-ed" my whole thread and me along with it. 😬 Now I really ought to include a proper signature 😬 : Jacob Sullivan10, the diagnosis hunter. And of course, Lawrence Bailey77, I don't exactly keep my own diagnoses displayed at my front door, right? It should be pretty obvious that I keep a little black book where I jot down everyone else's 🤣

🕺 .. why did you have to make me laugh .. really .. you disarmed me with my own logic 😛

p.s. In my "defense," I honestly didn't think anyone was actually reading my posts 😬 let alone enjoying them 😍

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