What do you guys think about the idea of living to 500?

Anthony Perez9 said:Heard it or not, there's massive research happening right now targeting aging itself as a disease. The funding is getting huge. 👍

Some people are even predicting (like our own Korado Korlević) that those of us in our 20s or 30s might actually see a practically unlimited extension of life through rejuvenated bodies.

http://www.sciencealert.com/immortal...ocess-in-worms

Fortunately, cells undergo apoptosis at the end of their cycle, which effectively prevents cancer. If a cell were to bypass that process and somehow achieve immortality through a miracle, we would just be dealing with nothing but tumors. That's simply how biology works. Honestly, death is a necessary part of the cycle. Personally, if we were all immortal, I’d be absolutely livid, and I might even lobby to bring death back into fashion.

Anthony Perez9 said:Heard it or not, there's massive research happening right now targeting aging itself as a disease. The funding is getting huge. 👍

Some people are even predicting (like our own Korado Korlević) that those of us in our 20s or 30s might actually see a practically unlimited extension of life through rejuvenated bodies.

http://www.sciencealert.com/immortal...ocess-in-worms

That only happens once we merge machines with humans—you know, genes, transhumanism, all that stuff.

..basically, we shouldn't even be aging—I mean, if we aren't supposed to, then what's the point of life existing at all? There's gotta be a reason for aging, but we just need to find a way to toggle that function off in the biological machine's settings—letting the soul hang out in the body longer, keeping the being in this dimension... obviously, we won't be able to stop accidents, and once people become relatively immortal, they'll probably get way more reckless—the longer you live, the higher the odds of some physical mishap. (But hey, maybe that can be fixed by "uploading the mind to an avatar" or through spiritual training where kids learn in school how to reincarnate into a body after a sudden death—assuming they actually want to, of course)

Gerald Hill said:The fact that people used to pass away early from illnesses or injuries that are easily treated today does not imply that we are going to live for 500 years. We have no reason to believe we will reach a 500-year lifespan today; we truly do not. To believe we will live for 500 years? Well, I am not such an optimist as to believe in a 500-year life right now. Ultimately, it is irrelevant, because when we die, everything vanishes for us anyway, as if we had never even lived. Life is, among other things, a bit of a deception; it doesn't matter how long you live.

There's some truth to what he's saying.

If you were incredibly wealthy, completely independent, and could just soak up everything life has to offer, why wouldn't you?
It would be something similar to this film: .
You could live for thousands of years if you had the bank account to back it up.

Sarah Nguyen96 said:If you were incredibly wealthy, completely independent, and could just soak up everything life has to offer, why wouldn't you?
It would be something similar to this film:

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You could live for thousands of years if you had the bank account to back it up.

So you want to live forever (for a few millennia, sure) but only if you can afford the lifestyle too?

100 isn't nearly enough—maybe 500 at most, assuming you're a healthy 20-year-old somewhere in the States

because I mean, what's the point of living to five hundred if you've got rheumatism? It seems a bit silly, I guess

Why not? If I were beautiful, young, fit, healthy, and loaded, I’d certainly take advantage of it.

rowdypanther said:Why not? If I were beautiful, young, fit, healthy, and loaded, I’d certainly take advantage of it.

But wouldn't you get bored eventually?

Look, we finally got a body—or at least a brain—that actually works with the consciousness we've built up. Let’s be real: spending 420 years trapped in some decaying, rotting gray matter wouldn't exactly be the high-quality life anyone's dreaming of, right?

wearyowl29 said:But wouldn't you get bored eventually?

Well, please—go ahead and find me anyone who would actually prefer someone unattractive, aged, and destitute...☕

@Maria Robinson2:
One hundred is far too low—we should be talking about at least five hundred, provided we're dealing with a healthy twenty-year-old.

I certainly wouldn't object to the physique of a healthy twenty-year-old, though I would have some serious reservations regarding the consciousness—and the complete cessation of its further development.

Jeffrey Fisher5 said:Well, please—go ahead and find me anyone who would actually prefer someone unattractive, aged, and destitute...☕

@Maria Robinson2:
One hundred is far too low—we should be talking about at least five hundred, provided we're dealing with a healthy twenty-year-old.

I certainly wouldn't object to the physique of a healthy twenty-year-old, though I would have some serious reservations regarding the consciousness—and the complete cessation of its further development.

That’s a tough one to untangle. Consciousness isn't some floating abstraction that exists independently of age—you can't ignore the hormonal, neurological, and biological realities that shape how someone thinks.

wearyowl29 said:But wouldn't you get bored eventually?

Bored? Please. I’d be out seeing the world. Wouldn't you?

Death isn't some kind of disease.
It actually serves a purpose in how everything works.
For real though.
It’s not just humans being born and kicking the bucket... everything alive and even the inanimate stuff in this whole universe is constantly cycling through birth and death, since the beginning of time... even the stars.
If those stars hadn't died off, we wouldn't even be here right now (we wouldn't have the raw materials to build ourselves out of... hydrogen and helium alone don't cut it).
Thinking we're these "gods" who somehow sit above the natural order—that's just peak scientistic arrogance, pure trans-humanist nonsense, and empty futurist pipe dreams.
"Immortality" is just an anomaly that the universal order will eventually fix on its own.
It’s like trying to fight windmills or go up against the actual laws of physics shaping space-time.
Like trying to run faster than light, or "falling upward"... or trying to move backward through time.
No matter what we try to pull (messing with genes, growing organs, slapping in microchips, or daydreaming that consciousness is just something you can save onto a thumb drive), it’s all gonna hit a wall or end in total disaster...
Just imagine (metaphorically) if the day you woke up—say, a random Wednesday—just lasted forever!?
What a massive drag... once you've had your fill of that Wednesday and it gets boring as hell.
After a while, people would probably just kill themselves.
Starving for a new morning, a new dawn, or just a fresh start.

Exactly—death isn't some kind of disease.
I honestly don't get people who are obsessed with living forever, especially if they want to stay stuck in this exact same body with the same limited consciousness. I mean, think about it: what was I missing before I was even born? Absolutely nothing.
Personally, I feel like we’re living in a society that’s still evolutionarily lagging behind—kind of a dystopia that doesn't offer much in terms of actual human growth. In a better version of the world, sure, maybe living to be 150 or 200 would be perfectly fine. But in the world we actually live in right now? I think one year is plenty.
Okay, I might be trolling a little bit with that last part, but seriously, do you really want to live infinitely? For what? What's the goal? Just to keep dragging your poor, tired body along through this brutal, inhumane capitalist machine? And all because some tiny little ego is running the show and convinced itself it needs to be eternal? That’s exactly what people are doing right now. You're just surviving day after day.

Everything that has ever been born has also died. If anything is close to death, it's the act of forcing a miserable, sick, and exhausted body to take just one more step forward.
By the way, it’s already been proven countless times that consciousness doesn't just vanish when the body dies, so what's even the point of seeking eternal physical life? So you can experience another fancy dinner of prime rib or shrimp scampi? Or jump off a cliff into the ocean one more time?
It's nonsense. Grow up and die.😁

frozengull2 said:Death isn't some kind of disease.
It actually serves a purpose in how everything works.
For real though.
It’s not just humans being born and kicking the bucket... everything alive and even the inanimate stuff in this whole universe is constantly cycling through birth and death, since the beginning of time... even the stars.
If those stars hadn't died off, we wouldn't even be here right now (we wouldn't have the raw materials to build ourselves out of... hydrogen and helium alone don't cut it).
Thinking we're these "gods" who somehow sit above the natural order—that's just peak scientistic arrogance, pure trans-humanist nonsense, and empty futurist pipe dreams.
"Immortality" is just an anomaly that the universal order will eventually fix on its own.
It’s like trying to fight windmills or go up against the actual laws of physics shaping space-time.
Like trying to run faster than light, or "falling upward"... or trying to move backward through time.
No matter what we try to pull (messing with genes, growing organs, slapping in microchips, or daydreaming that consciousness is just something you can save onto a thumb drive), it’s all gonna hit a wall or end in total disaster...
Just imagine (metaphorically) if the day you woke up—say, a random Wednesday—just lasted forever!?
What a massive drag... once you've had your fill of that Wednesday and it gets boring as hell.
After a while, people would probably just kill themselves.
Starving for a new morning, a new dawn, or just a fresh start.

A non-revocable immortality (that religious paradise nonsense) is gross.

Knowing we all eventually hit the exit button is actually what keeps us going. 🙂

Extending a good life? Sure, why not. 👍
Aging is just a disease. 👎

PS. If anyone gets bored, they can always opt out of existence. Personally, I can't imagine getting tired of this mortal grind. So let it drag on forever. Even if it's temporary.

David Vaughn75 said:Look, we finally got a body—or at least a brain—that actually works with the consciousness we've built up. Let’s be real: spending 420 years trapped in some decaying, rotting gray matter wouldn't exactly be the high-quality life anyone's dreaming of, right?

Spot on.

So, I guess let's aim for over 500—as long as the brain stays functional!

Five hundred years feels like plenty, but man, what if we’re actually stuck living forever?

wearyhawk83 said:Five hundred years feels like plenty, but man, what if we’re actually stuck living forever?

Honestly, I’d rather just vanish than deal with some non-revocable immortality that never actually ends. 😲

Unknown;
Getting old is just one big, exhausting sickness. 👎

PS. If anyone's getting bored, they can always just check out early. Personally? I can't even fathom being bored with this whole mortal life thing. So yeah, let it drag on forever if it wants. Even though we’re all just passing through.

Believe it or not, aging is just how the machine works.
It clearly serves some purpose in the grand design.
We're talking universal laws here—stuff that's been shaping the universe since day one, and we're just tiny little pieces of it.
Think about the flow of time, entropy, all that heavy stuff...
Nothing in space-time—whether you're looking at atoms or entire galaxies—can fight these processes.
Doesn't matter what your politics are, your moral code, what you want out of life, or how much you daydream about living forever...
The absolute dumbest thing a person can do is get worked up about it.
No matter how you set yourself up, you're gonna age and you're gonna die.
Not even high-tech microchips, cloning, genetic engineering, or some Silicon Valley miracle tech is gonna save you.

Having a good quality of life is fine and all, but it doesn't change the math.

A few years earlier or later, everything eventually settles where it belongs.

If you really think about it...

Based on the movie "Green Mile" (1999)... which was based on that novel by Stephen King...

The guard, Paul, gets this gift—or maybe it's a curse—where he lives an insanely long life (we're talking like 500 years territory), but... he has to watch every single one of his friends die off one by one.

Paul talks about how he's haunted by the thought that "everyone owes death; there are no exceptions; but, God, sometimes the Green Mile seems so long." It leaves Paul wondering if Mr. Jingles could actually survive as long as a mouse really could—and just how much longer he’s stuck waiting for his own end.

Forget all those transhumanist (or whatever you want to call them) fantasies. Maybe the real point is just leaving something behind... whether it's kids we hope will live in a better world... or just leaving something good and precious, even if it's just a tiny bit...