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ruggedskipper11 ruggedskipper11 MemberOP
14 messages
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#1 ·
I’ve been sitting here for days trying to get this out, but my brain just won't cooperate. Let me try to sum up this absolute mess.
It’s been years since I actually felt anything for a guy—you know, that feeling where you're actually fluttering or maybe even falling for someone? Like, I met this person and now they're all I can think about... it's constant.
I’ve been on meds for about ten years now. It started with panic attacks, then spiraled into a full disorder, and lately, it’s just been non-stop anxiety.
Since getting to know this person, my days have been brutal. Just pure fear—fear of everything that might happen and everything that might not. I can't sleep, I can't eat, and I find myself cranking up my dosage just to cope. I’m working out like a total maniac just to exhaust myself so I don't overthink things... I spend the whole day glued to my phone, totally unable to function. I know this isn't healthy, it's straight-up self-destruction. This is an obsession. Every time I get a text, it's like, "Okay, peace," followed immediately by me spinning back into this endless cycle of being lost. Day after day. I work, I read, I do *anything* just to stop from screaming.
I don't even know what I want from you guys. Comfort? Help? Advice? Maybe just finding someone who feels the exact same way? I don't know... I just have nobody else to tell.
And look, you already know I'm not walking away from this. I can't. It would absolutely wreck me if I cut ties or anything like that. No way. I just want to get through the day without feeling like I'm spiraling toward a physical breakdown.
Roger Davis14 Roger Davis14 Newcomer
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#2 ·
So, let me ask you—do you struggle with this constant, nagging need to control every single little thing in your life?
Because let’s be real: it’s impossible.
Stop expecting way too much from this person right out of the gate. You guys are clearly just getting to know each other; let things play out naturally. Besides, we all have to be capable of standing on our own two feet if we can't find exactly what we're looking for.
Since I’m already on medication myself, I assume you might be seeing a psychiatrist too. Honestly, it’s probably best if you just sit down and talk this through with them.
ruggedskipper11 ruggedskipper11 MemberOP
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#3 ·
If I actually got anything out of seeing a shrink, I definitely wouldn't be hanging out here.
Roger Davis14, yeah, everything’s gotta be perfectly controlled, right? Uncertainty just kills me. That whole getting-to-know-you phase... man, that's the best part. Just to catch a tiny glimpse of that happiness and beauty before it vanishes.
Morning started off like total crap.
Jerry Wilson13 Jerry Wilson13 Member
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joined Nov 2015
#4 ·
I'm not sure if you're a religious person?

Look, this might sound like total nonsense to you—especially if you don't believe in God or some higher power—but if you actually sit with this thought for a second, I promise you’ll find something profound in it.
"Can any of you prolong your life by even a moment by worrying about it?"(Matthew 6:25-34)

It's the ultimate truth.

I've dealt with panic attacks myself (just one so far, but it was intense...), and I’ve been struggling with generalized anxiety my whole life too (self-diagnosed, I haven't seen a pro for it yet)... but reflections like this have helped me reach a point where I just live for today... just for this specific hour I'm in right now. No one is promised or guaranteed tomorrow. You have to accept that, because the truth is bigger than all of us.
It doesn't matter what specific situation you're dealing with right now... you probably feel this way about everything.
If you don't try to break the chains your own mind has wrapped around you, there isn't a single area of your life that won't suffer for it.

You can't control the vast majority of things. And even the stuff you're convinced you *can* control? You have much less influence over it than you think. You just have to be okay with that.

What is the absolute worst-case scenario here?
Seriously... what is the one thing you are most afraid of right now?
ruggedskipper11 ruggedskipper11 MemberOP
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#5 ·
Jerry Wilson13, man, living in the moment and just focusing on today? That’s basically a rebirth. It’s like you can finally breathe!
But me? I’m never in the moment. Everything just feels like it's passing me by because my head is constantly spinning with these negative, out-of-control thoughts.
Back in the day, reading books about all this stuff actually helped. My faith isn't what it used to be, but when things get heavy, you grab onto whatever you can find.
The questions you asked—man, they hit me right in the chest.
To answer where I'm at: honestly, ever since I opened my eyes this morning, I've been terrified. I'm scared of myself—specifically, how I'll react if that certain person doesn't call or text. I'm scared of feeling totally lost and failing at even the simplest daily tasks. I worry about how I'm gonna hide this restless, miserable version of myself from the people close to me. I wonder if I'll burn myself out with all this anxiety to the point where I can't even hit the gym (and honestly, that's the one thing that keeps me sane). Then the spiral starts. I start thinking we won't see each other anymore. I wonder if I messed up, or if they noticed something was off during our last hangout... if they realized I'm struggling.
Jerry Wilson13 Jerry Wilson13 Member
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#6 ·
ruggedskipper11 said:Jerry Wilson13, man, living in the moment and just focusing on today? That’s basically a rebirth. It’s like you can finally breathe!
But me? I’m never in the moment. Everything just feels like it's passing me by because my head is constantly spinning with these negative, out-of-control thoughts.
Back in the day, reading books about all this stuff actually helped. My faith isn't what it used to be, but when things get heavy, you grab onto whatever you can find.
The questions you asked—man, they hit me right in the chest.
To answer where I'm at: honestly, ever since I opened my eyes this morning, I've been terrified. I'm scared of myself—specifically, how I'll react if that certain person doesn't call or text. I'm scared of feeling totally lost and failing at even the simplest daily tasks. I worry about how I'm gonna hide this restless, miserable version of myself from the people close to me. I wonder if I'll burn myself out with all this anxiety to the point where I can't even hit the gym (and honestly, that's the one thing that keeps me sane). Then the spiral starts. I start thinking we won't see each other anymore. I wonder if I messed up, or if they noticed something was off during our last hangout... if they realized I'm struggling.

Look, dear, what you’ve got going on in there isn't something physical or tangible... It's your thoughts. That's all they are. just I've been sitting here thinking about this... just letting my mind wander through all the different angles of the situation. There's so much to unpack when you really dig into the details. It’s easy to take things at face value, but if you pause for a second—really sit with it—you start seeing those subtle layers that most people just breeze right past. I'm trying to wrap my head around the core of it all, weighing the pros and cons, looking for that one piece of logic that makes everything click. It's a lot to process, honestly. Just processing. Thinking.Nothing massive, nothing grand... just plain overwhelming.

What’s on your mind?
What exactly goes into this? What's the actual breakdown?
She’s nothing. One minute you think you have it all figured out... then by the end of that very same day, you've completely flipped your perspective and you're thinking something else entirely. If that's the case, what even is a thought?
Why on earth are you taking them so incredibly seriously?

Just let your thoughts flow... Don't fight them. You're only letting them tear you apart because you're constantly threatening them, battling them head-on. You’re treating them like some kind of foreign invader—something unwanted, something that's going to physically destroy you.

Look, man... those are just thoughts. 😉

They don't mean a thing. They can't do anything. They’re so incredibly tiny and insignificant that nobody else—not one soul—can even see them, hear them, or feel them... And yet, that's exactly why they matter so much.

Your thoughts aren't YOU.

You are whatever you actually are, regardless of what you happen to be thinking about yourself at any given second. In reality, you’re a completely different person every single day. Every single moment, you're someone else entirely—it all just depends on those thousand different variables and tiny aspects that make up a life. If you can actually wrap your head around that, you'll realize just how much massive power you truly hold. It's a power you possess simply because you were born into this world. You need to "own" your thoughts and your feelings. Don't be ashamed of them. Just don't let them end up owning you instead...

There’s no such thing as a "wrong" thought. At the end of the day, a thought is just a thought. Even the darkest, most twisted ideas can't actually hurt anyone—they won't kill or wound a single soul unless you decide to take that step and turn them into an action.

Why exactly are you so afraid that you’ll end up doing something you don't actually want to do?🤔Alright... here’s an example. A thought pops into your head... aha, okay, now you’ve suddenly realized this and that... and then what? So what?! Just let it be. Run it through your internal system—let it weave its way through all those tangled threads of yours until it finds an exit. If it isn't useful to you, if it doesn't actually bring you any peace or comfort, just let it pass. Calmly. Acknowledge that it’s there, acknowledge that it arrived, and simply allow it to find its way out of your system. It’s that easy, really. Just simple and effortless. However it showed up, it’ll just go *poof* and vanish. Especially if you don't give it any "life-or-death" importance...

What is there to be so afraid of? Honestly, I still can't wrap my head around what exactly you're terrified of.

Are you really not going to see him?

Trust me on this one—right at this very second, while you and I are sitting here typing away, there are countless people out there going through heartbreaks three hundred times more intense than anything you’d feel if that person just stopped calling. And you know what? Guess what happens next. Every single one of them is going to stay alive. They’re going to keep breathing... they'll keep laughing loudly... they'll show up to work, find new love, and keep moving forward.
How can you not grasp just how much grit we actually have? We’re absolute savages when it comes to toughness.

At the end of the day, we’re all just human. We all deal with that gut-wrenching fear of failing. It's something we all face.
Just plain disappointment.
Loss.
But look, those fears aren't going to paralyze us. We get it—even if everything hits the fan all at once, it won't break us. It’ll be a total circus. Honestly? A complete, chaotic mess. But let's be real: life isn't just one long stretch of pain. It's not even a month of pure hopelessness or a single brutal year. Life is also made up of those butterflies in your stomach—the kind you feel yourself, even if you're too guarded to actually let yourself enjoy them. It's about those fresh, fragrant springs. It's about the snow falling on decorated streets in a quiet suburb. It's about friends, weddings... the birth of children, that truly divine blessing. There is so much waiting for you... so much beauty. So much greatness.
Just soak in that moment when you feel the spark.

When you find yourself thinking about him, just let that initial rush of infatuation hang in the air for a bit... Don't overthink it. Stick to reality instead. Observe what’s actually happening right now. Focus on the facts—the things that are measurable. Things you can see. Things you can touch...

Stop trying to analyze things you can neither predict nor control!

If it isn't "meant to be," it won't work out. The relationship won't grow. But honestly? That is completely out of your hands. It's out of his hands, too... It all comes down to the "chemistry" in your bodies. It's pure biology. 😉 You can't influence that with your thoughts any more than you could pick up a pen off a desk just by thinking about it. The pen is just there. It sits there. Even if you lose your mind over it, it stays put until you physically move it. Emotions work the exact same way. Either the feelings are mutual and strong enough, or they aren't. You have zero influence over that. Just enjoy those little moments of early infatuation... because they count!! Even if they fizzle out by next week, savor them now. Give yourself permission to do that. You have every right to dream that this is "the one" until proven otherwise.

Can you trigger endorphins in someone else's body using nothing but your thoughts?
No.
So, stop trying to micromanage his emotions... or making assumptions about how he feels.
Try to make your thoughts work *for* you instead. Use them as a catalyst to amplify that initial surge of dopamine... a sweet text... a cute message... a "good morning" or a great cup of coffee... a joke that made you laugh... a solid workout... All of these are things your mind can take and build upon, creating something beautiful inside your own body...
On the flip side, those same thoughts—and all those endorphins—can turn into sludge. You can water them down with fear, frustration, and obsessive paranoia... if you let yourself. If you take them too seriously. If you give them too much room to breathe in your mind...

An old Native American legend tells of a grandfather talking to his grandson: "We all have two wolves fighting inside us constantly. One is white and carries all the virtues. He is good, joyful, affectionate, and kind. The other is black, embodying our flaws. Pride, ego, vanity, hatred, envy." The grandson asked which wolf wins the fight.
The old chief replied, "The one you feed most often."

Feed the positive. Nourish the joy. Let everything else pass through your system... like water going down a drain...
You mentioned you work out...

Well, so do I. 👍

Use that time to sweat out all the negativity.

Don't just exercise for the sake of exercising. Meditate while you do it... visualize those negative thoughts and hit them with your movements. Destroy them. Kick those fears and paranoias away forcefully with your feet... your knees... your kettlebells... 😉 It might sound a little crazy, but try it. Trust me, it works wonders!

Afterward, take a shower. Use a nice lotion. Light a scented candle... Lie down on the couch, smelling wonderful. Close your eyes and try to think of absolutely nothing.
Even if it's just for thirty minutes a day.
Try to focus on nothing except what you hear, see, or feel in that exact second... Give your mind a break.
In those moments, don't even think about him. Turn off your phone. Retreat into your own world where you are the most important person. A place where you will never betray yourself. Where you will always be your own best friend. Rebuild that trust in yourself...
Eat something delicious. Put on music that brings back happy memories. Watch a movie you absolutely love... Be unapologetically kind to yourself. Dedicate these moments to yourself and don't let anyone or anything in this world interfere with this sacred ritual. You have every right to be selfish.

Realize that everything starts from within you.
Everything that is wounded needs to heal. Everything you went through in your childhood (and I'm sure you likely experienced moments that caused you to start fearing everything so obsessively) happened then... a long time ago. Break those ties. Realize you aren't that child anymore... The fears you lived through back then (which trained your body to maintain this level of anxiety just so you know how to function) are no longer real. They aren't reality.

Realize that your mind is basically "manufacturing" these patterns right now. Since those old habits are the only blueprint it recognizes, it’s just making things up out of thin air to keep you stuck in that same old imbalance.

Just see it for what it is. Try flipping the script. Take back the power that actually belongs to you... Understand that if you truly want to, all of this can stop. Right now. The moment you say so. The second you decide.

I’ve gone head-to-head with my own mind more times than I can count. It was a long, exhausting war... and honestly, the fighting isn't over yet. But I finally realized how much time I wasted living exactly how my confused, deceived mind told me to. I also learned a hard truth: nobody is going to fight my battles for me. Nobody is going to win them on my behalf. If that’s the reality, then I have to arm myself and be willing to bleed a little every single day. It’s not easy. There will be highs and there will be crushing lows. Some fights are going to follow you for the rest of your life... But the absolute most important thing is that you keep fighting! Don't you dare give up.
What matters is how hard you try. Every single scratch you earn while trying to reclaim your ground counts. Nothing is ever "in vain."
Just believe in yourself.
Jerry Wilson13 Jerry Wilson13 Member
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joined Nov 2015
#7 ·
😲😲 none.

I think this might actually be the longest post I’ve ever sat down to write.
Donna White50 Donna White50 Regular
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#8 ·
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ruggedskipper11 said:Jerry Wilson13, man, living in the moment and just focusing on today? That’s basically a rebirth. It’s like you can finally breathe!
But me? I’m never in the moment. Everything just feels like it's passing me by because my head is constantly spinning with these negative, out-of-control thoughts.
Back in the day, reading books about all this stuff actually helped. My faith isn't what it used to be, but when things get heavy, you grab onto whatever you can find.
The questions you asked—man, they hit me right in the chest.
To answer where I'm at: honestly, ever since I opened my eyes this morning, I've been terrified. I'm scared of myself—specifically, how I'll react if that certain person doesn't call or text. I'm scared of feeling totally lost and failing at even the simplest daily tasks. I worry about how I'm gonna hide this restless, miserable version of myself from the people close to me. I wonder if I'll burn myself out with all this anxiety to the point where I can't even hit the gym (and honestly, that's the one thing that keeps me sane). Then the spiral starts. I start thinking we won't see each other anymore. I wonder if I messed up, or if they noticed something was off during our last hangout... if they realized I'm struggling.

Jerry Wilson13 wrote such a beautiful post about that mental fatigue we all deal with. It’s like you’ve taken these tiny, insignificant thoughts and turned them into actual enemies—just fighting a constant battle against them every single day. These negative loops trigger this deep sense of fear and despair, whispering that you’re not good enough, that everything’s going to fall apart, or that life just doesn't have any point... And look, fear is one of those heavy-duty emotions that forces you into survival mode, so you end up fighting desperately just to stay afloat. The thing is, there are usually two ways this plays out. Either you fight the thoughts head-on—which honestly just makes you focus on them even more, giving them way too much power in a sort of endless, exhausting loop that just drains you from the inside out... or you try to get ahead of them by being "preventative." That usually looks like obsessing over every possible worst-case scenario or getting lost in perfectionism just to avoid a mistake that might trigger those feelings again. But then, when things aren't perfect, the old voices come back saying you failed or that nothing matters... which just feeds right back into the fear and anxiety...

Let's just head back to square one...
Look, you've got all the facts on your side—you're young, healthy, sharp, and you've got food in the fridge and a drink in your hand. You even finished school and you've got a boyfriend, too. By any universal standard, you're basically crushing it as a woman...
Let’s try to dig into what’s actually going on here. Honestly, it sounds like you might have dealt with some intense pressure back when you were a kid—probably from one of your parents... You likely learned pretty early on that making a mistake meant facing some serious consequences, so you started working overtime to make sure nothing ever went wrong. It's like you basically trained yourself to deny your own right to mess up, because back then, an error didn't just mean a correction—it meant fear, being yelled at, or even getting hit... turns out that's a hard habit to break...
In your desperate attempt to shield yourself from all those bad vibes, you've basically gone into full overdrive—setting these crazy rules and restrictions for yourself... like, you can't make a single mistake, you can't let anyone see you stumble, and you’re constantly terrified your boyfriend will walk out if you aren't performing perfectly. You feel like you won't even be able to function unless everything is flawless... because to you, a breakup or a little disappointment feels like pure agony and suffering. But honestly? It just shows how deeply insecure you really are. This fear of messing up is just piling irrational anxieties on top of each other in an endless loop... until you eventually hit a wall of total exhaustion or a full-blown panic attack...

So, let's break this down—deep down, you're still that little kid, maybe five or six years old, totally terrified of getting grounded when you mess up. You’re basically that vulnerable little thing, just scared of the pain, the fear, and being judged by your parents... But here's the kicker: that kid grew up. Now you're staring down all these massive adult problems and responsibilities head-on, and because you haven't moved past those old fears, everything just feels completely overwhelming...

You’ve gotta get to the root of the problem, and that's really just the fear of getting busted, being rejected, or just plain messing up. Honestly, you have every right to feel that way—we all do... It helps if you just focus on the here and now. There is no yesterday, there's no tomorrow, there's just right here, right now. Don't worry about how you'll feel tomorrow or what's gonna happen down the road—just try to take action in this exact moment. Let your thoughts flow without fighting them too hard... maybe try some meditation, it actually helps quite a bit. Also, if you start spiraling into those "what if" scenarios, just go ahead and play it out. Imagine the absolute worst-case scenario and think about what would actually happen. I guarantee you'd come out of it totally fine. Maybe things would sting a little, or you'd be a bit embarrassed, or maybe you'd lose some cash or someone from your life... but you'd still be YOU, you know? Just realize that this obsession with analyzing and controlling everything is just that wounded inner child inside you, terrified of shame and being punished. That's not who you are... you're a grown, strong woman, just like I said at the start...
Look, you’re allowed to mess up—you’re allowed to be whoever the hell you want to be, and nobody has any right to stop you. Life happens one second at a time, and honestly, there’s zero guarantee you’ll even be here tomorrow, let alone that everything will go exactly according to your master plan. So, don't sweat the small stuff too much... just let things be what they are. Try to live in the moment and really dig into those fears and emotions you're feeling. Figure out where that fear is actually coming from—maybe it’s tied to something back in your childhood or something... Give yourself the power to actually recognize why you feel this way and what’s triggering those moods.

I know, I know—it's way easier said than done. But it comes down to practice. It took years to build up those negative habits and that self-sabotaging mindset you're stuck in, so it's gonna take months of real work on yourself to find your footing again. You have to do this, though... because the way you're living right now is basically a living hell, and you're the one who walked into it. Nobody deserves to feel like this...🙂
ruggedskipper11 ruggedskipper11 MemberOP
14 messages
joined Jan 2012
#9 ·
Jerry Wilson13 and Donna White50, thanks for putting in all that work and typing out so much!!
I’m gonna go back and reread your verses of peace (which, let’s be real, I still need to find 🙂) over and over again. I know you guys are right—what I’m going through right now is straight-up hell. Honestly, I can barely breathe today.
ruggedskipper11 ruggedskipper11 MemberOP
14 messages
joined Jan 2012
#10 ·
Jerry Wilson13, I was re-reading your post on Saturday and honestly, I just broke down crying. I’m gonna have to print it out and keep it. 🙂
I won't lie and say I'm doing any better lately, but I’m trying to change at least one tiny thing every single day—I know I have to. I'll keep you guys posted on how things are going. My appetite is still non-existent and I'm basically chain-smoking my way through the day, but somehow I'm still getting my stuff done. It’s a struggle, just white-knuckling it through everything, but I can't fully cave, even though yesterday was absolute hell.
Lawrence Bailey77 Lawrence Bailey77 Regular
302 messages
joined Mar 2015
#11 ·
Jerry Wilson13 said:😲😲 none.

I think this might actually be the longest post I’ve ever sat down to write.

What?! 😬

ruggedskipper11 said:Jerry Wilson13, I was re-reading your post on Saturday and honestly, I just broke down crying. I’m gonna have to print it out and keep it. 🙂
I won't lie and say I'm doing any better lately, but I’m trying to change at least one tiny thing every single day—I know I have to. I'll keep you guys posted on how things are going. My appetite is still non-existent and I'm basically chain-smoking my way through the day, but somehow I'm still getting my stuff done. It’s a struggle, just white-knuckling it through everything, but I can't fully cave, even though yesterday was absolute hell.

Look, ten years is an incredibly long stretch of time... I want to believe in self-help and everything else, truly, but since I’ve been in a fundamentally similar situation—though perhaps "period" or "experience" is a more accurate way to phrase it than just a "long time"—it might not hurt to seek out professional help along the way. Ten years is a significant portion of one's life... personally, it wasn't until after my fourth year of actively seeking assistance 🙂 that I finally gained access to professional care, and I suspect that significantly accelerated my recovery...

Looking at where I stand right now, I suppose I can try to gauge my own progress... I don't really have much experience here, so maybe those more seasoned folks can offer a better assessment, but for now, I am speaking directly to you. Ten years of accumulation... man, look at that ashtray 😬 just imagine how much has piled up over a decade. You have to clear that out. It requires energy, strength, organization, and sheer persistence... it is an immensely difficult task, and I mean that with the best of intentions... when I was trying to help myself, I could find short-term fixes, but I couldn't see any long-term way out or any sense in it all, though I haven't given up just yet :bliss

That is really all I can tell you... regarding the "problem," if it cannot be solved (and objectively speaking, some things are unsolvable), then you simply learn to live with it. In my case, if we are talking about a certain kind of pain, it hasn't disappeared; it has merely found a quiet corner to reside in, slowly eroding the non-essential parts of oneself just to ensure survival and the occasional ability to appreciate the beauty of life... occasionally... bit by bit... enough to make facing problems a little easier than before...

I hope things move faster for you... don't wait around... life is far too short... and even the longest journey begins with a single step. 👍
William Chavez5 William Chavez5 Member
13 messages
joined Jul 2011
#12 ·
If you’re looking for my two cents, I would suggest you start by gradually phasing out those unhealthy habits... you know, drinking more water, getting some exercise in, maybe picking up a positive book to occupy your mind, and surrounding yourself with people who actually lift you up, rather than drag you down... and perhaps get a routine blood panel done at a clinic just to be safe. It might help to write down your daily responsibilities every single morning and track your progress as you go... find some way to relax, truly, something you genuinely enjoy doing that pulls your focus away from whatever is weighing on your mind, whatever that may be. Set some goals for yourself and ensure you take one tiny step toward them every single day. All of this should provide a bit of relief, but the most critical thing—the absolute core of it all—is to realize that you aren't happy with where you currently stand and that you simply refuse to remain stagnant any longer... And if new opportunities present themselves through different people, new environments, or fresh career paths, please, give them a chance... never let yourself become hyper-focused on just one person; they might seem like the center of your universe right now, but there are plenty of other people out there who deserve your attention too.
ruggedskipper11 ruggedskipper11 MemberOP
14 messages
joined Jan 2012
#13 ·
I honestly didn't even have the energy to type this out—he just cut me off. You guys know exactly where my head is at right now. Honestly, just making it through the day without falling apart feels like a massive win. I tried reaching out for some professional help, looking for a psychiatrist, but I couldn't get an appointment. It's one of those things where I know I've just gotta dig deep and pull myself out of this hole on my own. Even when everything feels like absolute garbage, reading your posts actually helps me stay sane.
ruggedskipper11 ruggedskipper11 MemberOP
14 messages
joined Jan 2012
#14 ·
It’s been a minute since I last posted. Since December 5th of last year, man... things have changed so much. Just look at how much life can throw at you in a few months!
Where am I at right now? Honestly, I don't even know if I've actually "moved forward." Sure, I've been crushing some great books, working out, keeping up with my vitamins, and my appetite is finally back. I've been getting my walks in and blasting music... but then there's the other side—still smoking way too many cigarettes, leaning on meds, and dealing with all this lingering fear and insecurity.
As for the relationship, it's just... dragging along. I don't even know what to call it or how to define it, but it's still there. We're communicating better and seeing each other here and there. But weirdly enough, now that things are actually improving, my anxiety is hitting harder. It's like back when I thought we were totally done, I felt this massive sense of relief—like the waiting and the constant torture were finally over, even though I was falling apart at the time.
You guys agree it's better to just vent everything out here rather than sending a text, right? 🙂
Jonathan Hayes Jonathan Hayes Member
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joined Apr 2017
#15 ·
ruggedskipper11 said:It’s been a minute since I last posted. Since December 5th of last year, man... things have changed so much. Just look at how much life can throw at you in a few months!
Where am I at right now? Honestly, I don't even know if I've actually "moved forward." Sure, I've been crushing some great books, working out, keeping up with my vitamins, and my appetite is finally back. I've been getting my walks in and blasting music... but then there's the other side—still smoking way too many cigarettes, leaning on meds, and dealing with all this lingering fear and insecurity.
As for the relationship, it's just... dragging along. I don't even know what to call it or how to define it, but it's still there. We're communicating better and seeing each other here and there. But weirdly enough, now that things are actually improving, my anxiety is hitting harder. It's like back when I thought we were totally done, I felt this massive sense of relief—like the waiting and the constant torture were finally over, even though I was falling apart at the time.
You guys agree it's better to just vent everything out here rather than sending a text, right? 🙂

I'd recommend two books for you:

-How to Break an Addiction to Another Person and
-Women Who Love Too Much

🙂
Lawrence Bailey77 Lawrence Bailey77 Regular
302 messages
joined Mar 2015
#16 ·
I am glad to hear things are looking up! Honestly, you sound wonderful right now. 🙂

.. though, now that you're feeling better, I suppose I might suggest working toward making things even better still! 👍
.. just as much as you can manage without feeling pressured .. take it easy ..

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ruggedskipper11 said:It’s been a minute since I last posted. Since December 5th of last year, man... things have changed so much. Just look at how much life can throw at you in a few months!
Where am I at right now? Honestly, I don't even know if I've actually "moved forward." Sure, I've been crushing some great books, working out, keeping up with my vitamins, and my appetite is finally back. I've been getting my walks in and blasting music... but then there's the other side—still smoking way too many cigarettes, leaning on meds, and dealing with all this lingering fear and insecurity.
As for the relationship, it's just... dragging along. I don't even know what to call it or how to define it, but it's still there. We're communicating better and seeing each other here and there. But weirdly enough, now that things are actually improving, my anxiety is hitting harder. It's like back when I thought we were totally done, I felt this massive sense of relief—like the waiting and the constant torture were finally over, even though I was falling apart at the time.
You guys agree it's better to just vent everything out here rather than sending a text, right? 🙂

I think things are improving, but perhaps you could work on not letting this weigh on you quite so heavily .. you have certainly endured enough in this life .. so I thought, why not try to relax and actually enjoy yourself a bit? 🙂

One should learn to value the experience and the opportunities currently available, to accept how fleeting everything is, and to embrace the challenge .. try to find some motivation .. it is a shame, really .. life is far too short .. to squander a singular opportunity by clinging to other experiences simply out of fear .. that is truly a frightening prospect 😛

Here is a small bit of wisdom; expect the best, but prepare for the worst 😬

p.s. everyone suffers to some degree, depending on their character and their circumstances .. try not to be so hard on yourself .. nor on others, for that matter .. you see those people who go to the opposite extreme and insist on controlling everyone else .. the underlying principle is much the same .. not that I want to exaggerate, but it's true 🙂
ruggedskipper11 ruggedskipper11 MemberOP
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joined Jan 2012
#17 ·
Jonathan Hayes, thanks for the book recs! 🙂
Honestly, I find my zen just being surrounded by a massive pile of books.

Lawrence Bailey77, things are looking up, even if I’m not exactly thrilled yet. Still got a mountain of work ahead of me, but hey, every little win counts, right? Compared to how I was feeling before, I'm definitely stronger—well, I'm trying my damnest to be. It takes a ton of effort, but overall, I'm feeling better.
I'll admit, I'm in this spot where I have zero clue how everything is going to play out. It's pretty terrifying, honestly. But I'm just letting life happen and trying to practice some actual patience for once.
Forgive my moments of weakness, I really need to get my act together. 😉
Lawrence Bailey77 Lawrence Bailey77 Regular
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joined Mar 2015
#18 ·
Perhaps you should try channeling all that energy into something creative instead... basically, just stop letting your fears run the show

You are in the process of building yourself—your personality, your character, and everything else that comes with being an individual... so please, make an effort 👍 lay down foundations so solid that nothing can ever knock you off course. I suppose anything is possible if you look at it that way. You’ve already experienced those moments firsthand, haven't you? Those feelings are much like a misstep in a dance, so you really ought to take things slowly and steadily. We'll just go step by step 🙂 at your own pace... set your own rules 👍

.. after all, you are the master of your own life and the one who determines your destiny 🧐
That is the true path toward freedom. Don't let fear hold you back. Honestly, what fear? You have already bypassed it, and it's out of your system now; it belongs to the past, and there's no place for it anymore 😉
If it happens to cross your path again... well, just say goodbye and keep moving forward 😬
casualmarlin4 casualmarlin4 Newcomer
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#19 ·
ruggedskipper11 said:I’ve been sitting here for days trying to get this out, but my brain just won't cooperate. Let me try to sum up this absolute mess.
It’s been years since I actually felt anything for a guy—you know, that feeling where you're actually fluttering or maybe even falling for someone? Like, I met this person and now they're all I can think about... it's constant.
I’ve been on meds for about ten years now. It started with panic attacks, then spiraled into a full disorder, and lately, it’s just been non-stop anxiety.
Since getting to know this person, my days have been brutal. Just pure fear—fear of everything that might happen and everything that might not. I can't sleep, I can't eat, and I find myself cranking up my dosage just to cope. I’m working out like a total maniac just to exhaust myself so I don't overthink things... I spend the whole day glued to my phone, totally unable to function. I know this isn't healthy, it's straight-up self-destruction. This is an obsession. Every time I get a text, it's like, "Okay, peace," followed immediately by me spinning back into this endless cycle of being lost. Day after day. I work, I read, I do *anything* just to stop from screaming.
I don't even know what I want from you guys. Comfort? Help? Advice? Maybe just finding someone who feels the exact same way? I don't know... I just have nobody else to tell.
And look, you already know I'm not walking away from this. I can't. It would absolutely wreck me if I cut ties or anything like that. No way. I just want to get through the day without feeling like I'm spiraling toward a physical breakdown.

Do you hit the gym or just stick to working out at home? I’m guessing you prefer the house—I personally head to the gym to get some social interaction—especially when hanging out with the guys. 🙂Just go out and make some new friends—honestly, you’ll find that all that anxiety and stress just melts away in no time at all.

ruggedskipper11 said:It’s been a minute since I last posted. Since December 5th of last year, man... things have changed so much. Just look at how much life can throw at you in a few months!
Where am I at right now? Honestly, I don't even know if I've actually "moved forward." Sure, I've been crushing some great books, working out, keeping up with my vitamins, and my appetite is finally back. I've been getting my walks in and blasting music... but then there's the other side—still smoking way too many cigarettes, leaning on meds, and dealing with all this lingering fear and insecurity.
As for the relationship, it's just... dragging along. I don't even know what to call it or how to define it, but it's still there. We're communicating better and seeing each other here and there. But weirdly enough, now that things are actually improving, my anxiety is hitting harder. It's like back when I thought we were totally done, I felt this massive sense of relief—like the waiting and the constant torture were finally over, even though I was falling apart at the time.
You guys agree it's better to just vent everything out here rather than sending a text, right? 🙂

I honestly think it’s better to just sit down and talk face-to-face—skip the texts and the internet entirely. Even if the idea feels a little nerve-wracking right now—and I get that—just go for it. It’ll make things easier, believe me.
Jonathan Hayes Jonathan Hayes Member
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joined Apr 2017
#20 ·
casualmarlin4 said:Do you hit the gym or just stick to working out at home? I’m guessing you prefer the house—I personally head to the gym to get some social interaction—especially when hanging out with the guys. 🙂Just go out and make some new friends—honestly, you’ll find that all that anxiety and stress just melts away in no time at all.

I honestly think it’s better to just sit down and talk face-to-face—skip the texts and the internet entirely. Even if the idea feels a little nerve-wracking right now—and I get that—just go for it. It’ll make things easier, believe me.

Yeah, socializing with guys at the gym... honestly, most of them spend more time staring at their own reflection in the mirror than even glancing at the women 😁

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