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mellowdrifter9 mellowdrifter9 MemberOP
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#21 ·
Tyler Nelson said:Thanks for those words. They really hit home. You mentioned reconnection—I did my own reconnection nearly a year ago, and man, it was unreal. Sensations, feeling the touch of my light family, that floating feeling...
Could you explain what you meant by "don't get boxed in by the system and its levels"? I'm not sure I quite follow 😕


Since you have completed Reconnection, that is really just the starting point; now, I believe it is important to keep working on developing your own personal self-mastery. Please, don't stop at merely becoming a practitioner or a teacher of Reconnection... you must continue to work on yourself, to evolve, and to connect with your inner teacher. Try to embrace the gifts and abilities you hold within, and elevate your vibration. Sooner or later, I suspect another method or system will find its way to you to help you continue your journey. This might involve reiki, ThetaHealing, perhaps Yoga, or even Jyotish and planetary mantras... if you simply stay open and keep searching, I feel the heavens will answer with their blessings. 👍
mellowdrifter9 mellowdrifter9 MemberOP
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#22 ·
wearyowl29 said:The name is the destiny!

Knowing a name means holding power (since a name carries its own vibration). But remember, nobody hands you power over yourself. You can never be too careful when navigating those kinds of environments.

The topic here is spiritual guides and the importance of cooperation.

I’m honestly not quite sure where everyone is headed with this discussion....
Let me offer my own experience as an example.
When I was undergoing my initiation to become a reiki master, Michael A. manifested to me. He introduced himself mentally, offered his greetings, and remained by my side throughout the entire rite. If he hadn't explicitly introduced himself, I might not have known who he was at all. I would have just been guessing. I called upon him along with other spiritual guides, and he responded, appearing before me and stating his name. I believe names exist for a reason, just as their manifestations do. The key is cooperation; the goal is precisely what many spiritualists seem to have forgotten: understanding why they are even here and what their true purpose is.

Perhaps that is why there is such discord within spirituality, and why there is so much imbalance, pain, suffering, and misfortune....
I don't think people realize just how powerful and capable they truly are, or the sheer strength that lies within them....

Think about the power held by 1,000 people uniting in meditation and prayer for peace. Imagine the energy that rises, the specific vibration created.... especially when that focus is directed toward healing, cleansing, or transformation. Now, imagine that intensity when the number grows from ten to a hundred, or a thousand times greater.
And that is assuming you have the support of beings from the spirit world....

No matter how long you have been masters, teachers, priests, wizards, or mages... there is still so much you likely do not yet know.

Why are you here, right now, in this specific time and place, facing these exact problems while possessing these hidden abilities and gifts deep inside you?....
Why are you present during this specific transitional period on planet Earth? What is your mission, your true purpose?!

What I am trying to convey is centered on cooperation. When you open yourself up enough to cooperate with beings from the spirit world, they manifest, they introduce themselves, and they work alongside you. They assist in your personal growth and help you fulfill your life's mission—provided you have actually recognized it and aligned yourself with it. If you haven't, they will help you find that way.

They are here for our sake, and their names are provided for our benefit, because we are still tethered to this dimension and often fail to perceive them in their true form.

How many of you have actually felt the energy of Christ?! And how many of you would even recognize Him if He appeared to you in a dream (or suddenly stood before you during meditation) to heal you and deliver answers to your prayers? Would you even know it was Him if He hadn't introduced Himself or given you His name???

Have you developed yourselves enough to recognize divine beings based solely on their energetic signature?
It is very rare—truly, incredibly few people—who are actually capable of doing that!
mellowdrifter9 mellowdrifter9 MemberOP
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#23 ·
Sandra Morales said:I had some experiences quite a while ago, though nothing too intense. I saw a Wolf, a house, and a woman through meditation, visualization, and opening my third eye. It led me to believe, perhaps a bit too much, that I was a wolf in a past life. Looking back, I probably just got carried away. Everyone follows their own path, though I tend to be more of a thinker than Michael Gonzalez77. But as my good friend says, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and their own ass (pardon my French) 😁. Cheers


I also have a wolf, a spiritual animal guide that has accompanied me through various lifetimes, dating all the way back to when I lived within an American Indian tribe. It seems to me that there are spiritual guides who stay with you for the long haul to deliver messages from the spirit world, and then there are others who simply walk beside you for specific periods until you have fully integrated certain lessons.
wearyowl29 wearyowl29 Regular
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#24 ·
mellowdrifter9 said:The topic here is spiritual guides and the importance of cooperation.

I’m honestly not quite sure where everyone is headed with this discussion....
Let me offer my own experience as an example.
When I was undergoing my initiation to become a reiki master, Michael A. manifested to me. He introduced himself mentally, offered his greetings, and remained by my side throughout the entire rite. If he hadn't explicitly introduced himself, I might not have known who he was at all. I would have just been guessing. I called upon him along with other spiritual guides, and he responded, appearing before me and stating his name. I believe names exist for a reason, just as their manifestations do. The key is cooperation; the goal is precisely what many spiritualists seem to have forgotten: understanding why they are even here and what their true purpose is.

Perhaps that is why there is such discord within spirituality, and why there is so much imbalance, pain, suffering, and misfortune....
I don't think people realize just how powerful and capable they truly are, or the sheer strength that lies within them....

Think about the power held by 1,000 people uniting in meditation and prayer for peace. Imagine the energy that rises, the specific vibration created.... especially when that focus is directed toward healing, cleansing, or transformation. Now, imagine that intensity when the number grows from ten to a hundred, or a thousand times greater.
And that is assuming you have the support of beings from the spirit world....

No matter how long you have been masters, teachers, priests, wizards, or mages... there is still so much you likely do not yet know.

Why are you here, right now, in this specific time and place, facing these exact problems while possessing these hidden abilities and gifts deep inside you?....
Why are you present during this specific transitional period on planet Earth? What is your mission, your true purpose?!

What I am trying to convey is centered on cooperation. When you open yourself up enough to cooperate with beings from the spirit world, they manifest, they introduce themselves, and they work alongside you. They assist in your personal growth and help you fulfill your life's mission—provided you have actually recognized it and aligned yourself with it. If you haven't, they will help you find that way.

They are here for our sake, and their names are provided for our benefit, because we are still tethered to this dimension and often fail to perceive them in their true form.

How many of you have actually felt the energy of Christ?! And how many of you would even recognize Him if He appeared to you in a dream (or suddenly stood before you during meditation) to heal you and deliver answers to your prayers? Would you even know it was Him if He hadn't introduced Himself or given you His name???

Have you developed yourselves enough to recognize divine beings based solely on their energetic signature?
It is very rare—truly, incredibly few people—who are actually capable of doing that!

So, what now?

We're getting a free lesson here.😒

Questions: How do you actually know they are divine beings?

Do these beings lack their own free will, or do they possess it?

What is their purpose in showing up... serving, communicating, bringing us joy, or something else entirely?

In my experience, I've learned that all that glitters isn't gold. ...😲
mellowdrifter9 mellowdrifter9 MemberOP
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#25 ·
wearyowl29 said:So, what now?

We're getting a free lesson here.😒

Questions: How do you actually know they are divine beings?

Do these beings lack their own free will, or do they possess it?

What is their purpose in showing up... serving, communicating, bringing us joy, or something else entirely?

In my experience, I've learned that all that glitters isn't gold. ...😲


I certainly agree that not everything that glitters is gold. I have had some rather difficult experiences myself, and based on those, I try to discern whether we are dealing with true divine beings. Generally speaking, it seems they manifest if you have actively called upon them—if you have opened yourself up and sought assistance. If you are asking a specific Archangel or a master for help, it is quite possible that someone else might appear instead, someone who might be more specialized in that particular area.

Michael A. tends to appear when you require protection, support, cleansing, or if you have been chosen in some way for a specific type of spiritual healing or spiritual service.
Raphael A. may manifest if you are in need of healing, or if you are working to heal someone else and they require assistance—essentially, if you are on the path of becoming a healer.
Gabriel A. might reach out if you need to receive a specific message, news, or guidance regarding your spiritual work, your journey, or your ability to channel messages.

Native American Teachers, shamans, or what some call a medicine man might contact you if you are connecting deeply with nature, or if you are working toward the healing of nature and Mother Earth. This usually happens if you are open to that specific spiritual lifestyle or if you held such connections in past lives.

They always seem to appear for a reason, especially during this transitional period we are currently navigating.
mellowdrifter9 mellowdrifter9 MemberOP
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#26 ·
Perhaps one of the reasons for reaching out and making this connection is simply to share a message like this.

Perhaps there is a way to truly become a master of high spiritual vibration. I suppose it is a journey one must undertake with great sincerity.

Dear light beings, during this transitional period, we are all being influenced by a multitude of vibrations and higher energies that are increasingly descending upon planet Earth. As you work to release old patterns and ascend, you are purifying your very being so that you may more fully receive these increasing vibrations of light, love, and healing. These energies are manifesting among you in alignment with Mother Earth’s own ascent into higher dimensions. Many of these high-frequency energies constitute the 5th density, which possesses its own higher and lower dimensions. I believe many of you have already begun to enter the lower dimension of 5D astrally—perhaps during sleep, meditation, or through your other spiritual practices. Your consciousness is ascending through these lower and higher dimensions of 5D simultaneously. Perhaps the more time you spend within these dimensions, the more you find yourself under the influence of those exalted energies that trigger a total transformation of your entire being. It seems that many of you are experiencing encounters with spiritual guides who reside in even higher densities, yet occasionally descend into 5D to support the spiritual progress and transformation you are undergoing. Some might receive sudden inspirations or profound insights, while others experience deep moments of self-realization. I suspect some of you have even become aware of, or successfully established communication with, beings from higher dimensions, acting as vessels for the messages they convey.

Universal truths remain eternal, much like the teachings that have sprung from them. I suppose many of the spiritual techniques you utilize today actually originated from higher densities, channeled down through the systems shared by the Ascended Masters and other Divine beings. During this current era, many beings from the spirit world are actively supporting the transition our planet is undergoing, along with every being residing upon it. It feels as though we are all united by a singular purpose: to provide you with everything necessary to complete this stage of the evolutionary cycle and step into a new one. I suspect many of you have been present since the time of Atlantis, and you all carry what is known as starseed essence within you. As you elevate your vibration, so too does much of what you hold inside begin to open, activate, and surface during this specific period. You are becoming increasingly aware of your new possibilities and abilities, but also of what you must release, overcome, and transform. Life on this planet has certainly not been easy, yet living specifically on Earth provides the unique opportunity to ascend from lower densities into higher ones. It allows you to realize and understand the reasons why you chose to undergo your incarnations in this part of the galaxy, in this system, and on this beautiful planet. Over the last few decades, numerous messages and theories have emerged; many beings have shared visions, experiences, and wisdom in various ways, all with the goal of encouraging your being to awaken. In my view, you are all here to gain experience, to learn, to become conscious, to awaken, to perceive, and to transform. Every one of you is a Divine soul on a path of personal self-mastery, elevating and expanding your Divine spark and consciousness. This is all part of a single evolutionary circle which, upon its completion, advances to open a larger, broader, and more comprehensive one than the last.

Dear Divine beings—for that is truly what you are—this message comes to you as an invitation to step away from the aimless wandering of daily life and the empty patterns of living that come from being overly preoccupied with the material world. I suppose we are calling upon you to pause, to take a meaningful step back, and perhaps find even just a few moments once a day to facilitate a reconnection with your Soul. There is that inner voice of wisdom, I believe, residing somewhere deep within the recesses of your being, calling out for an awakening. We invite you to use your spiritual practices, your prayers, your sacred rituals, and your various spiritual techniques to establish a connection with your spiritual guidance. Whether it be through Angels, Archangels, Saints, Ascended Masters, or Deities... whatever names you may have used to address us in the spirit world, or whatever titles you have bestowed upon us, please know that we are here beside you. We are watching your progress, ready to offer support and provide whatever it is you might need. Through this message, we ask if you might consider placing your trust in us. Please, feel free to surrender your petitions, your needs, your desires, your hopes, your fears, and your struggles—everything you require—to our care.

I believe that if you surround yourself with love and seek Wisdom, guidance, support, and the light of the Divine Source through that lens of love—by asking, praying, and aligning with your soul contract—you will receive everything you truly need. I guess the Divine Source from which we all originated is simply waiting for your call to provide exactly what is required, perhaps even more than expected, perfectly tailored to your soul's needs, your life missions, and the very reasons you are here on this planet. So much has already been granted to us, and even more is waiting to be gifted, but I suppose we must make the conscious choice to ask for it through our own free will. There are countless Divine beings performing what might be called spiritual divine service to assist us. We are all Masters, and every single one of us carries that Divine spark; we all hold within us the light and love of a higher force that guides us and of which we are an integral part. By staying in contact with that love and light daily, I feel we can elevate our being into higher vibrations. Perhaps we should follow those sublime vibrations to maintain that level every day, using them to consciously transform anything within ourselves that doesn't align with that elevated light and unconditional love. In those moments of connection, one might realize that our many differences are actually just lessons providing us with opportunities to grow. We all originate from the same Source, and before that Source, we are all equal. Skin color, gender, nationality, or religious affiliation are merely the paths we walk through this incarnation (just as we have through many others), serving as various ways we have chosen to express ourselves, gain awareness, and acquire experience and wisdom. To be a Master of high spiritual vibration means living a life rooted in unconditional love and sublime light, and using those vibrations to intentionally influence your being—turning discord into harmony, flaws into virtues, and hatred into love, while recognizing equality amidst our perceived diversity. These apparent differences are really just products of our current stage of perception and how we choose to experience the world we live in. Everything is one Source manifesting in many different forms and modes of existence. I would invite you to look at yourselves, the world around you, and all the beings within it through the eyes of the spirit, experiencing everyone with a heart of unconditional love. Unconditional love and sublime light are inherent parts of the Divine Source woven into all of creation. Dear Divine beings, please strive to be Masters of high spiritual vibration; live and act through that high frequency every single day, because you carry it within you—in fact, that is exactly what you are.

We honor the Deity that resides within each of you.
Namaste.
Astarte and the council from the Pleiades.
wearyowl29 wearyowl29 Regular
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#27 ·
mellowdrifter9 said:I certainly agree that not everything that glitters is gold. I have had some rather difficult experiences myself, and based on those, I try to discern whether we are dealing with true divine beings. Generally speaking, it seems they manifest if you have actively called upon them—if you have opened yourself up and sought assistance. If you are asking a specific Archangel or a master for help, it is quite possible that someone else might appear instead, someone who might be more specialized in that particular area.

Michael A. tends to appear when you require protection, support, cleansing, or if you have been chosen in some way for a specific type of spiritual healing or spiritual service.
Raphael A. may manifest if you are in need of healing, or if you are working to heal someone else and they require assistance—essentially, if you are on the path of becoming a healer.
Gabriel A. might reach out if you need to receive a specific message, news, or guidance regarding your spiritual work, your journey, or your ability to channel messages.

Native American Teachers, shamans, or what some call a medicine man might contact you if you are connecting deeply with nature, or if you are working toward the healing of nature and Mother Earth. This usually happens if you are open to that specific spiritual lifestyle or if you held such connections in past lives.

They always seem to appear for a reason, especially during this transitional period we are currently navigating.

But what if what they’re asking of you...?

how do you tell the good ones from the bad?
granitebear6 granitebear6 Newcomer
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#28 ·
I'm looking to connect with a guide.
mellowdrifter9 mellowdrifter9 MemberOP
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#29 ·
wearyowl29 said:But what if what they’re asking of you...?

how do you tell the good ones from the bad?

In my own experience, they tend to support my spiritual work, and occasionally, while performing healing, I might receive a message intended for that specific person. I suppose everything really hinges on the guide; it mostly comes down to cooperation, which is essentially what I mentioned earlier in the thread.

I think you can tell by the energy—by their physical presence, how they radiate, the messages they convey, and how you personally feel in that exact moment. For instance, do you find yourself feeling drained, exhausted, or perhaps irritable during and after contact with them? Or, conversely, do you feel rested, energized, relaxed, or even joyful?

A great deal of this also depends on how energetically strong a person is, how grounded they are, and how much high-vibration energy they can actually process... and so on.

Quite simply, the "good" ones radiate divine light, love, and wisdom... whereas the bad ones are merely acting.
I believe no demon can truly impersonate an angel; they might attempt it, but they cannot sustain that form, that light, or that love for long, nor can they truly radiate such energy.

Ultimately, all of this is learned through practice and direct experience...
David Ross3 David Ross3 Member
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#30 ·
Can someone break this down for me? I was reading some stuff about angels, and this woman wrote about wanting to know if her angel was male or female—so she asked for a sign and ended up finding a blue feather. That totally piqued my interest, so I decided to ask the same thing myself... and then I dreamed I found this whole cluster of long, light blue feathers. Now I'm wondering—did I actually get my answer through the dream, or did I just dream it because I couldn't stop thinking about it?
Maria Parker77 Maria Parker77 Active Member
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#31 ·
David Ross3 said:Can someone break this down for me? I was reading some stuff about angels, and this woman wrote about wanting to know if her angel was male or female—so she asked for a sign and ended up finding a blue feather. That totally piqued my interest, so I decided to ask the same thing myself... and then I dreamed I found this whole cluster of long, light blue feathers. Now I'm wondering—did I actually get my answer through the dream, or did I just dream it because I couldn't stop thinking about it?

You definitely got your answer in a dream.
wearyowl29 wearyowl29 Regular
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#32 ·
mellowdrifter9 said:In my own experience, they tend to support my spiritual work, and occasionally, while performing healing, I might receive a message intended for that specific person. I suppose everything really hinges on the guide; it mostly comes down to cooperation, which is essentially what I mentioned earlier in the thread.

I think you can tell by the energy—by their physical presence, how they radiate, the messages they convey, and how you personally feel in that exact moment. For instance, do you find yourself feeling drained, exhausted, or perhaps irritable during and after contact with them? Or, conversely, do you feel rested, energized, relaxed, or even joyful?

A great deal of this also depends on how energetically strong a person is, how grounded they are, and how much high-vibration energy they can actually process... and so on.

Quite simply, the "good" ones radiate divine light, love, and wisdom... whereas the bad ones are merely acting.
I believe no demon can truly impersonate an angel; they might attempt it, but they cannot sustain that form, that light, or that love for long, nor can they truly radiate such energy.

Ultimately, all of this is learned through practice and direct experience...

Spotting them is such slippery territory—especially when someone is acting.
In the spirit world, those boundaries are incredibly thin...
David Ross3 David Ross3 Member
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#33 ·
Maria Parker77 said:You definitely got your answer in a dream.

Thanks for the reply 🙂 fingers crossed that's how it went down.
Maria Parker77 Maria Parker77 Active Member
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#34 ·
It happens to me all the time—I’ll be obsessing over something, totally stuck, banging my head against the wall trying to make sense of it, and then I wake up and it’s just... clear. Like, boom. It turns out when you're dreaming, that rigid, annoying logic we cling to during the day just lets go. It's way easier to actually soak up guidance from our angels, spirits, or even our higher selves when we aren't busy overthinking everything.image
Sandra Morales Sandra Morales Member
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#35 ·
mellowdrifter9 said:The topic here is spiritual guides and the importance of cooperation.

I’m honestly not quite sure where everyone is headed with this discussion....
Let me offer my own experience as an example.
When I was undergoing my initiation to become a reiki master, Michael A. manifested to me. He introduced himself mentally, offered his greetings, and remained by my side throughout the entire rite. If he hadn't explicitly introduced himself, I might not have known who he was at all. I would have just been guessing. I called upon him along with other spiritual guides, and he responded, appearing before me and stating his name. I believe names exist for a reason, just as their manifestations do. The key is cooperation; the goal is precisely what many spiritualists seem to have forgotten: understanding why they are even here and what their true purpose is.

Perhaps that is why there is such discord within spirituality, and why there is so much imbalance, pain, suffering, and misfortune....
I don't think people realize just how powerful and capable they truly are, or the sheer strength that lies within them....

Think about the power held by 1,000 people uniting in meditation and prayer for peace. Imagine the energy that rises, the specific vibration created.... especially when that focus is directed toward healing, cleansing, or transformation. Now, imagine that intensity when the number grows from ten to a hundred, or a thousand times greater.
And that is assuming you have the support of beings from the spirit world....

No matter how long you have been masters, teachers, priests, wizards, or mages... there is still so much you likely do not yet know.

Why are you here, right now, in this specific time and place, facing these exact problems while possessing these hidden abilities and gifts deep inside you?....
Why are you present during this specific transitional period on planet Earth? What is your mission, your true purpose?!

What I am trying to convey is centered on cooperation. When you open yourself up enough to cooperate with beings from the spirit world, they manifest, they introduce themselves, and they work alongside you. They assist in your personal growth and help you fulfill your life's mission—provided you have actually recognized it and aligned yourself with it. If you haven't, they will help you find that way.

They are here for our sake, and their names are provided for our benefit, because we are still tethered to this dimension and often fail to perceive them in their true form.

How many of you have actually felt the energy of Christ?! And how many of you would even recognize Him if He appeared to you in a dream (or suddenly stood before you during meditation) to heal you and deliver answers to your prayers? Would you even know it was Him if He hadn't introduced Himself or given you His name???

Have you developed yourselves enough to recognize divine beings based solely on their energetic signature?
It is very rare—truly, incredibly few people—who are actually capable of doing that!

Regarding the bolded part: I am interested in the definition of a "transitional period." This term is mentioned far too often in New Age literature. To me, the only transition period is death. 👏

Are the situations you see and experience part of guided meditation where someone tells you what you are seeing, or do you imagine it yourself? (Sorry if this is a stupid question, as I am inexperienced with these matters.) I will keep my own opinion to myself since I don't have much intelligent to contribute here, but I would be very grateful if you could explain the ways one connects with these guides. Thanks, and take care. 🙂
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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#36 ·
mellowdrifter9 said:I am so glad you decided to reach out. Please, continue with your work on yourself, regardless of what others might say here. No one else can experience your unique journey quite the way you do. If I may offer a small word of advice early on: Spiritual guides can change. Through further meditation, I suggest seeking confirmations, names, and ways to recognize their presence and communication styles. In this regard, Angels can be a tremendous help; they can protect you from any Beings that are not 100% pure divine light and love. Before you meditate, I find it helpful to call upon them to protect and guide you, asking them to stay by your side. Whether you perceive them visually or not, they are there, but I believe you must give them direction—you have to invite them and grant them permission to assist you.

Working with Energy—whether it involves Reiki, ThetaHealing, Shamballa, Reconnection, or any other technique or system—can be beautifully combined with meditations, affirmations, invocations, and so on. I suppose it is best to allow yourself room to grow; try not to let yourself get boxed in by a rigid system or its various levels. Instead, use those tools to shape your own Personal self-mastery, allowing yourself to discover everything you carry within.
As you progress, I imagine your circle of guides will expand, and you are certainly free to seek guidance from others, such as an Archangel, a Master, a Saint, or a Deity... When you are ready, they will make themselves known.
Best of luck, and please do write back whenever you have new experiences to share.
Namaste.

At 3 p.m. 😲

If you ask me, if we're just talking about all those hollow techniques, I’d much rather have this:

Personally, I think all this irritability and being "cranky" is just a side effect of being in an unnatural state. Humans weren't designed to sit there with their eyes shut for several hours every single day. If you do that in a social setting, you're going to end up in arguments and frustration. If you're alone, you might just spend the whole day fuming internally. And then, the most ridiculous part? People persist in meditating, convinced that their crankiness is some sort of psychic block preventing them from reaching enlightenment.
I remember this one guy, maybe 27 years old, whose sister happened to be a TM teacher, who once threw a perfectly timed jab at an instructor during a lecture. The teacher was droning on about how we absolutely had to complete every possible TM course—everything from Vedic astrology, TTC, TWV, (some acronyms for advanced techniques), Patanjali's Siddhi programs, countless yoga sutras, kama sutras... etc., etc. He was basically saying we wouldn't be "real" meditators until we checked every single box. The kid just chimed in and said: you'll just end up being DISCONNECTED


Maybe we've been doing something wrong all along, because instead of angels appearing, we're getting a face full of arrogant Satan!
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#37 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:At 3 p.m. 😲

If you ask me, if we're just talking about all those hollow techniques, I’d much rather have this:

Personally, I think all this irritability and being "cranky" is just a side effect of being in an unnatural state. Humans weren't designed to sit there with their eyes shut for several hours every single day. If you do that in a social setting, you're going to end up in arguments and frustration. If you're alone, you might just spend the whole day fuming internally. And then, the most ridiculous part? People persist in meditating, convinced that their crankiness is some sort of psychic block preventing them from reaching enlightenment.
I remember this one guy, maybe 27 years old, whose sister happened to be a TM teacher, who once threw a perfectly timed jab at an instructor during a lecture. The teacher was droning on about how we absolutely had to complete every possible TM course—everything from Vedic astrology, TTC, TWV, (some acronyms for advanced techniques), Patanjali's Siddhi programs, countless yoga sutras, kama sutras... etc., etc. He was basically saying we wouldn't be "real" meditators until we checked every single box. The kid just chimed in and said: you'll just end up being DISCONNECTED


Maybe we've been doing something wrong all along, because instead of angels appearing, we're getting a face full of arrogant Satan!

One really ought to maintain boundaries in everything... whether it's spiritual practices, specific techniques, meditation, Yoga, asanas, or even physical training. Any kind of excess leads to overexertion, exhaustion, fatigue, physical pain, a loss of willpower, or even total apathy.

Consistency is what actually yields results... it isn't about the scale, the duration, the sheer volume, or the total time invested. A training session lasting anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour, done three times a week—or perhaps six times a week after four or five months—will produce results. It's the same with meditation, Yoga, and things like that. Many people make the mistake of chasing extremes; there simply is no "instant" technique, ritual, or ceremony that will launch you straight into enlightenment, reveal the secrets of the universe, prove the existence of God, or allow you to conquer nature.

Working on oneself for just 30 minutes every single day through prayer, a mantra, meditation, or exercise... surely anyone can find that much time for themselves. Even if not every day, most could certainly manage three or four times a week.
Steady, continuous work brings progress, whereas forcing yourself into three to five hours of meditation, prayer, chanting, or intense training... well, that just drains you. It actually produces the opposite effect.

We really need to learn to listen to our inner wisdom. If you've already been working eight to ten hours a day, of course you shouldn't try to squeeze in another four hours of grueling training or three hours of meditation when your body and mind are practically screaming for rest. You have to set priorities and stay organized, but please, give yourself some rest too—it's absolutely necessary in this crazy world we live in.
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#38 ·
Since God is basically unknowable, over in India they have this concept of Ishta Devata—or something like that, I don't want to get bogged down in the specifics right now—which is like having a personal deity. It’s usually just one of the many gods or angels on offer, but it’s not the ultimate Reality itself; it’s more like a set of handholds to help us stay grounded.

Then you’ve got the folks who think people can actually manifest certain astral phenomena. These aren't even beings, let alone anything divine. Some might say it could be Kali; there’s even that old legend about a woman in white appearing in the US right before a war breaks out...

Regarding Kali and those other female deities, you could say they're energies manifesting through specific chakras. For instance, Kali, or even Durga, which a lot of people find pretty cool, are energies tied to the lower chakras—basically, when they lose their temper, Shiva just clears out. In the higher chakras, you start seeing the energies of Parvati (that maternal vibe) and Saraswati (knowledge), and at the very highest chakra, Shiva and Shakti show up as One.

And there are these stories from far-off India about a paradise called Devaloka. It’s not exactly the ultimate goal for a spiritual seeker, but it’s a slightly better place to hang out than Earth, and Indra is the ruler there. Now, much like heaven and hell, these different levels of paradise aren't permanent. Indra is actually a little paranoid about losing his throne, so whenever he sees someone making serious spiritual progress, his seat starts shaking, and he’ll send one of those celestial dancers—an apsara or whatever—to try and distract the spiritualist with some worldly passions.

So, I guess the question is: are these tales meant to describe how the universe actually works, or are they warnings? Like, maybe they're telling us that even when we reach higher states of consciousness, we still run into obstacles like fear or greed... or maybe it's all just cosmic entertainment and heavenly adrenaline rushes...
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Sandra Morales said:Regarding the bolded part: I am interested in the definition of a "transitional period." This term is mentioned far too often in New Age literature. To me, the only transition period is death. 👏

Are the situations you see and experience part of guided meditation where someone tells you what you are seeing, or do you imagine it yourself? (Sorry if this is a stupid question, as I am inexperienced with these matters.) I will keep my own opinion to myself since I don't have much intelligent to contribute here, but I would be very grateful if you could explain the ways one connects with these guides. Thanks, and take care. 🙂

Transition periods seem to be unfolding all around us constantly. We see it in the shifting seasons—summer giving way to autumn, autumn turning into winter, and winter leading into spring. It’s even happening within our daily cycles, moving from the depths of night into the dawn and eventually into the morning. I suppose it's just the natural rhythm of things, isn't it?
People seem to rely on transitional terminology quite heavily as a way to try and describe or present certain concepts. I suppose you see this kind of language being tossed around constantly in the literature that’s been circulating over the last few decades. However, it feels like the term New Age has been more exhausted than almost any other label—except, perhaps, by those calling themselves "spiritualists."

During my meditation sessions, I often find myself experiencing various situations, vivid imagery, or sudden messages. There are moments when I truly feel as though one of these beings is attempting to initiate a reconnection with me. When I can manage to carve out some quiet time to relax through specific exercises or deep meditation, I try my best to establish a line of communication. It isn't always successful, though; I suppose that’s because I am a busy person with a full life and plenty of responsibilities to attend to. There have even been times when I’ve fallen asleep mid-meditation—perhaps because I was simply exhausted and the energy felt so powerful that my body just gave in. Sometimes these messages arrive through visual imagery, and other times they manifest within my dreams, but I must admit that by morning, about half of it tends to slip away. That might be why certain messages seem to repeat themselves. If I am ever unable to dedicate the necessary time to receive what is being sent, I simply offer my gratitude and ask if we might postpone the connection for another time.
It doesn't seem like they're constantly hovering over me anymore, nor am I being bombarded by messages pouring in from the spirit world... at least, I don't think so.

I suppose some messages did surface during guided meditations, though they were mostly quite brief—perhaps just quick notifications, sudden directions, or short answers to specific questions.
I believe that becoming a guide is something achieved through dedicated work on oneself. Establishing communication with the spirit world isn't an overnight occurrence; rather, it seems to happen gradually. It involves raising one's vibration and clearing away heavy, negative energies. I guess it also requires steadying the mind, building genuine self-confidence, and sharpening the senses. Ultimately, it’s about strengthening intuition through deep, internal transformation.
Nothing truly significant happens overnight; I suppose it’s only through continuous, dedicated effort that we actually see real results.
Persistence, courage, and a genuine willingness to evolve—these are what truly matter. It takes real strength to take your flaws and somehow transform them into virtues, or to face your own thoughts and deepest fears head-on, meeting your very spirit in the process. I suppose there comes a point where one must be prepared to sacrifice everything they have ever achieved. Perhaps we even have to cast aside everything we currently are, just to become something else—something new, something higher, and ultimately, something better.

So many people embark on this journey of being transformation, sparking deep changes and pushing everything inside them to finally surface. But then, when the moment actually arrives to face what has been unearthed... they get frightened and pull back. I suppose it happens because changing oneself is perhaps the most difficult task any of us will ever undertake. This is where things tend to fracture—that tension between the forces we’ve set in motion and our own internal resistance to letting go, to forgiving, or to facing the hard truths. It’s about confronting those darker parts of ourselves that have been buried so deep. And why does this happen? Well, I guess it’s because we fear losing control, and honestly, that can be a truly unsettling experience.

I suspect you all might be quite surprised to learn that God, the Source, the Divine Force... all of this is already known. Every single second of our lives—every fleeting thought, every desire, every action, every hope, even our anger, our stubbornness, or our defiance—it is all known to the Divine, to God, to the Source. Yet, despite everything, we remain held within that grace and love, perhaps because we are an intrinsic part of the Divine, just as the Divine is an inseparable part of us.
I believe there is a Divine plan for every single one of us, for every individual soul. I suppose that plan is designed so that no soul is ever left behind in their growth or their transformation... even if that process takes another 1,000 years, or perhaps an entire lifetime more. It seems to me they are always there to support us on this journey, offering exactly as much as we are truly ready to receive.
Sandra Morales Sandra Morales Member
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mellowdrifter9 said:Transition periods seem to be unfolding all around us constantly. We see it in the shifting seasons—summer giving way to autumn, autumn turning into winter, and winter leading into spring. It’s even happening within our daily cycles, moving from the depths of night into the dawn and eventually into the morning. I suppose it's just the natural rhythm of things, isn't it?
People seem to rely on transitional terminology quite heavily as a way to try and describe or present certain concepts. I suppose you see this kind of language being tossed around constantly in the literature that’s been circulating over the last few decades. However, it feels like the term New Age has been more exhausted than almost any other label—except, perhaps, by those calling themselves "spiritualists."

During my meditation sessions, I often find myself experiencing various situations, vivid imagery, or sudden messages. There are moments when I truly feel as though one of these beings is attempting to initiate a reconnection with me. When I can manage to carve out some quiet time to relax through specific exercises or deep meditation, I try my best to establish a line of communication. It isn't always successful, though; I suppose that’s because I am a busy person with a full life and plenty of responsibilities to attend to. There have even been times when I’ve fallen asleep mid-meditation—perhaps because I was simply exhausted and the energy felt so powerful that my body just gave in. Sometimes these messages arrive through visual imagery, and other times they manifest within my dreams, but I must admit that by morning, about half of it tends to slip away. That might be why certain messages seem to repeat themselves. If I am ever unable to dedicate the necessary time to receive what is being sent, I simply offer my gratitude and ask if we might postpone the connection for another time.
It doesn't seem like they're constantly hovering over me anymore, nor am I being bombarded by messages pouring in from the spirit world... at least, I don't think so.

I suppose some messages did surface during guided meditations, though they were mostly quite brief—perhaps just quick notifications, sudden directions, or short answers to specific questions.
I believe that becoming a guide is something achieved through dedicated work on oneself. Establishing communication with the spirit world isn't an overnight occurrence; rather, it seems to happen gradually. It involves raising one's vibration and clearing away heavy, negative energies. I guess it also requires steadying the mind, building genuine self-confidence, and sharpening the senses. Ultimately, it’s about strengthening intuition through deep, internal transformation.
Nothing truly significant happens overnight; I suppose it’s only through continuous, dedicated effort that we actually see real results.
Persistence, courage, and a genuine willingness to evolve—these are what truly matter. It takes real strength to take your flaws and somehow transform them into virtues, or to face your own thoughts and deepest fears head-on, meeting your very spirit in the process. I suppose there comes a point where one must be prepared to sacrifice everything they have ever achieved. Perhaps we even have to cast aside everything we currently are, just to become something else—something new, something higher, and ultimately, something better.

So many people embark on this journey of being transformation, sparking deep changes and pushing everything inside them to finally surface. But then, when the moment actually arrives to face what has been unearthed... they get frightened and pull back. I suppose it happens because changing oneself is perhaps the most difficult task any of us will ever undertake. This is where things tend to fracture—that tension between the forces we’ve set in motion and our own internal resistance to letting go, to forgiving, or to facing the hard truths. It’s about confronting those darker parts of ourselves that have been buried so deep. And why does this happen? Well, I guess it’s because we fear losing control, and honestly, that can be a truly unsettling experience.

I suspect you all might be quite surprised to learn that God, the Source, the Divine Force... all of this is already known. Every single second of our lives—every fleeting thought, every desire, every action, every hope, even our anger, our stubbornness, or our defiance—it is all known to the Divine, to God, to the Source. Yet, despite everything, we remain held within that grace and love, perhaps because we are an intrinsic part of the Divine, just as the Divine is an inseparable part of us.
I believe there is a Divine plan for every single one of us, for every individual soul. I suppose that plan is designed so that no soul is ever left behind in their growth or their transformation... even if that process takes another 1,000 years, or perhaps an entire lifetime more. It seems to me they are always there to support us on this journey, offering exactly as much as we are truly ready to receive.

Thanks for the info. My partner has started Theta healing and is working on similar things—specifically dealing with migraines and anxiety. It’s actually helped her quite a bit so far, especially that last workshop. Now she’s looking into taking a full course; it's a bit pricey, but goodness, if it works for her, why not? Thanks again, and I look forward to continuing our work with them. Cheers. 🙂

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