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Should you stick to your roots when you move away?

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Participants quietdriverSusan GonzalezNicholas Nguyenrapidrider11Casey Ramos31copperskipper38Ethan RossJessica Torres63Bradley Sanders4Morgan Cook10Samuel ParkerLawrence Rodriguez11nimblelynx7Sophia Moore52Matthew Young35Sam Alvarez4Samuel MurphyGeorge Morgan3Larry Moore83Melissa Peterson19hiddenstag5vividfox9
nimblelynx7 nimblelynx7 Regular
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#21 ·
Lawrence Rodriguez11 said:Honestly, what kind of nonsense is that? If we're following that logic, then Americans are just guests too, since they arrived and pushed out the Illyrians who were the original inhabitants here. That’s all ancient history at this point. This is the USA now, or Australia... whatever. People moving here need to respect the local laws, the traditions, the culture, and just the general way of life. The Prime Minister is spot on—everyone should approach it with that same mindset.

Americans never drove anyone out of their land, not even when they arrived.

And don't get me started on those Britons you're defending. Their history is nothing but oppression and destroying other cultures. In both Australia and North America, they've certainly gotten their hands dirty.
Sophia Moore52 Sophia Moore52 Active Member
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#22 ·
Jessica Torres63 said:And honestly, I think that's totally fair... personally, I'm planning on moving to Australia soon and I am definitely going to try to live exactly like that...

I mean, I really feel like when you move to a new country and you're basically staying there forever, you really need to become part of that community, you know? Like, embrace the customs, celebrate the national holidays and stuff like that...

But at the same time, you shouldn't ever forget where you came from or try to hide your roots either...

So, does that mean you're becoming a Protestant?
copperskipper38 copperskipper38 Member
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#23 ·
Bradley Sanders4 said:She's a total hypocrite.

I fail to see how there is any hypocrisy in what he actually said. 🤷
If anything, you’re being the hypocrite by taking issue with such a statement in the first place. By your own logic, if someone made a similar remark right here in America, you'd be calling them a hypocrite too, wouldn't you? 😵
nimblelynx7 nimblelynx7 Regular
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#24 ·
It’s all a farce. America is a nation built on crime and persecution—it survives solely by constantly picking fights with someone else.

Native Americans wiped themselves out, and Black people practically volunteered to be slaves on those cotton plantations.

Bradley Sanders4 Bradley Sanders4 Active Member
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#25 ·
copperskipper38 said:I fail to see how there is any hypocrisy in what he actually said. 🤷
If anything, you’re being the hypocrite by taking issue with such a statement in the first place. By your own logic, if someone made a similar remark right here in America, you'd be calling them a hypocrite too, wouldn't you? 😵

Why? Do you even realize what that term actually implies?

If someone said something similar over in the States, they'd be labeled a hypocrite too, wouldn't they?😵

Oh, absolutely. Whether it's America or Australia, it's basically the same deal. It's just that one lot took a little longer to decorate their houses with Native American skulls.
Matthew Young35 Matthew Young35 Veteran
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#26 ·
copperskipper38 said:I fail to see how there is any hypocrisy in what he actually said. 🤷
If anything, you’re being the hypocrite by taking issue with such a statement in the first place. By your own logic, if someone made a similar remark right here in America, you'd be calling them a hypocrite too, wouldn't you? 😵

The hypocrisy lies in demanding that newcomers adhere to standards that his own ancestors completely ignored.
Sam Alvarez4 Sam Alvarez4 Regular
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#27 ·
The question is just way too broad to give a simple yes or no answer.

It all hinges on how much the local culture differs from what you're used to back home. It's a massive difference whether you're moving to Saudi Arabia versus somewhere like France or Australia...

P.S. That statement by the Australian Prime Minister was totally taken out of context and misinterpreted, etc.
He was actually addressing people calling for Sharia law in Australia—not every single immigrant!

It’s a well-known hoax regarding that quote.
Ethan Ross Ethan Ross Newcomer
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#28 ·
Lawrence Rodriguez11 said:Honestly, what kind of nonsense is that? If we're following that logic, then Americans are just guests too, since they arrived and pushed out the Illyrians who were the original inhabitants here. That’s all ancient history at this point. This is the USA now, or Australia... whatever. People moving here need to respect the local laws, the traditions, the culture, and just the general way of life. The Prime Minister is spot on—everyone should approach it with that same mindset.

🤦

Americans basically kicked out the Iliad... 🤦
Casey Ramos31 Casey Ramos31 Active Member
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#29 ·
Ethan Ross said:🤦

Americans basically kicked out the Iliad... 🤦

they just absorbed them
Bradley Sanders4 Bradley Sanders4 Active Member
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#30 ·
So they rolled into that area five centuries after the Iliad disappeared? Yeah, right. Give me a break.
Casey Ramos31 Casey Ramos31 Active Member
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#31 ·
Bradley Sanders4 said:So they rolled into that area five centuries after the Iliad disappeared? Yeah, right. Give me a break.

Then where did they go?
Samuel Murphy Samuel Murphy Newcomer
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#32 ·
Exactly. Quoth the saying, when in Rome... Look, traditions are great and all, we should definitely respect them, but walking into someone else's house and trying to dictate their rules?
Honestly, who would even put up with that?
Bradley Sanders4 Bradley Sanders4 Active Member
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#33 ·
Casey Ramos31 said:Then where did they go?

Did you seriously sleep through that entire history class back in school when they were teaching about the Roman Empire?
Casey Ramos31 Casey Ramos31 Active Member
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#34 ·
Bradley Sanders4 said:Did you seriously sleep through that entire history class back in school when they were teaching about the Roman Empire?

Nah, clearly you did. ☕
George Morgan3 George Morgan3 Active Member
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#35 ·
rapidrider11 said:When you're in Rome, live like a local.

It’s just about being decent, honestly. If you actually want to fit in with the crowd, you should probably try meeting them halfway for once.

So, what—we just abandon our own identities just so everyone else feels comfortable?

No thanks. ☕
Casey Ramos31 Casey Ramos31 Active Member
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#36 ·
I honestly don't see how being an American, cheering for Team USA, rocking an American jersey, or even soaking up all that American culture and history could ever clash with living in Germany 🤷
Larry Moore83 Larry Moore83 Active Member
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#37 ·
I don't know...
Forests, leaders, mountain trails... you've got to keep moving... but if you end up face-down in the ocean, there isn't much walking left to do.
How does that even work? 😕
Ethan Ross Ethan Ross Newcomer
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#38 ·
Casey Ramos31 said:Then where did they go?

Ever hear about those Illyrian wars? Or what happened to the Romanized Illyrians? They eventually just blended right into the Slav population... specifically after, according to Constantinople, the American tribes—the Slavs—pushed out the Avars who were threatening the Byzantine Empire.
Samuel Parker Samuel Parker Active Member
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#39 ·
Ethan Ross said:It’s not just the grandkids; honestly, most of the time, even the very first generation loses it. And sometimes, the original immigrant wants to forget it all anyway! But hey, what can you do...

My uncle moved to Washington, D.C. at fourteen because of asthma. He married a German woman and had two sons. Both grew up speaking American fluently; they were excellent at it in school. But their children? They likely won't know a word of it. His younger son is studying in the USA now—his English is just as good as his German—and he plans to stay there. When he was last here working on his computer, he admitted he can't even read American anymore. He simply forgot, and he has no reason to remember.
Casey Ramos31 Casey Ramos31 Active Member
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#40 ·
Ethan Ross said:Ever hear about those Illyrian wars? Or what happened to the Romanized Illyrians? They eventually just blended right into the Slav population... specifically after, according to Constantinople, the American tribes—the Slavs—pushed out the Avars who were threatening the Byzantine Empire.

They didn't just vanish into thin air, they got absorbed. And it wasn't everyone, either.

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