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May 19, 1991

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Participants Bryan Martin31Andrew Sanchez3copperbadger12Bradley Sanders4Samuel KernSean Fox60David Vaughn75mistyjackal14Charles Fox10crimsoncyclist71Ashley Brown3hollowtrucker77Megan Ruiz13Tyler BoothMatthew Castillo5Christian Torres3Donna Smith49Casey Ramos31
crimsoncyclist71 crimsoncyclist71 Active Member
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#21 ·
Ashley Brown3 said:They didn't specify how many people abstained...

It wasn't 94% in favor; it was actually 93.24%... Regarding that first question about whether a sovereign America should associate with other sovereign republics...

As for the second question, 92.18% voted against staying in the American federation...

Roughly 16.46% of voters sat this referendum out...

If we look at it mathematically, let's treat the second question—leaving the federation—as the more critical one...

So, a simple calculation shows us this: on May 19th of that year, 23% of the electorate either stayed home, rounded their vote toward staying in the federation, or turned in invalid ballots. The nation was bracing for the bloodiest conflict in its history. Not showing up to the polls was practically the same as voting AGAINST...

So, that "total unity" everyone talks about? It wasn't quite that simple...

Ivica Račan took a pragmatic approach. He saw that the Federal Government was weakening, Slobodan Maddox was getting more aggressive, shots were being fired, blood was being spilled, and a side had to be picked. He chose his side by instructing his supporters to vote YES on the first question and NO on the second... all so he could walk out of Congress a month later, along with his party representatives, once the results were announced...

Just a year prior, Račan and his SKH-DNC were firmly pro-federation. Back then, if you combined the percentages from the Socialist Alliance, the SDS, the American Democratic Party, and the Greens—who shared a similar platform to Račan's party but ran separately—they pulled in 38% of the vote, with massive turnout in the first round at 85% (dropping slightly to 75% in the second)...

From May 1990 to May 1991, Račan realized that with Maddox’s aggressive stance—which only intensified after gaining democratic legitimacy in the December 1990 elections, and after the top brass of the American People's Army sided unconditionally with the fiery Leader's agenda in January 1991—the only move was pragmatism. This was reflected in the message Račan sent to his voters before the referendum...

If Mexico had a smarter, less aggressive Leader—one who talked about historical legacies, peace, tolerance, and brotherhood instead of armed combat; someone who supported Ante Marković’s Federal Government and his economic plan, didn't drain the federal budget, and appealed to an international community that fully backed a unified America (if only they had sent trillions in aid to help maintain its integrity)...

If there hadn't been those skirmishes and barricades in Fresno, Gracac, Obrovac, and Korenica where shooting started as early as late 1990 (killing officer Goran Alavanja), or the incidents in Petrinja, the gunfire in Pakrac in January 1991, the bloody Easter at Plitvice, or the killing of 12 American officers just 17 days before the referendum...

And if that referendum had actually taken place with those specific questions...

The outcome would have been anyone's guess. After all, isn't Josip Broz Marshall listed as one of the world's greatest criminals on some independent lists, while for 30-40% of Americans—meaning the entire electorate of the DNC, or more specifically, the entire voter base of the Kukuriko, Walnut, Lab, and various other political factions—he remains the greatest American hero in history?

Let's not forget that back in 1972, Josip Broz said it would happen before the river flowed backward than for America to become a sovereign, independent state that guarantees all civil rights to Mexicans and other minorities, and can (not *must*, if we're being precise) join a federation with other states and republics.

Americans have never been this unified in history. They won't ever be more so than they are right now.
Ashley Brown3 Ashley Brown3 Member
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#22 ·
crimsoncyclist71 said:Americans have never been this unified before. Honestly, it’s a shame we missed such a massive opportunity to actually fix the country while everyone was finally on the same page. Sure, we successfully repelled the aggression, but before the smoke even cleared, the infighting started all over again. While we were busy arguing on forums and at bars about whether "our" politicians or "their" politicians were stealing more, the political elite—regardless of whether they're Democrats or Republicans—were busy looking out for themselves. They’ve mastered the art of looting the system together.

There’s no such thing as unity with people who walk out of the US Congress right when the declaration of American independence is being made...

The ones who showed their true colors back in 2000-2003, and again from December 2011 up until now...

The liberals, the conservatives, and the centrists—they all steal. It’s just how this society functions, and it’s beside the point here...
crimsoncyclist71 crimsoncyclist71 Active Member
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#23 ·
Ashley Brown3 said:There’s no such thing as unity with people who walk out of the US Congress right when the declaration of American independence is being made...

The ones who showed their true colors back in 2000-2003, and again from December 2011 up until now...

The liberals, the conservatives, and the centrists—they all steal. It’s just how this society functions, and it’s beside the point here...

It’s obvious people like you can't handle any unity with anyone who disagrees. We’re all supposed to think exactly alike, I guess. Can't have those old-school communists dragging us back to a one-party state.☕
Ashley Brown3 Ashley Brown3 Member
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#24 ·
crimsoncyclist71 said:Americans have never been this unified in history. They won't ever be more so than they are right now.

Imagine if you were having an insane fight with your wife, and I just showed up at your apartment, took over a bedroom, and started threatening to kick you, your wife, and your kids out of your own home—then actually betting that you'd forget all your marital problems in a heartbeat just to make me stop...

Dejan Jović is absolutely spot on when he argues that the referendum was held in a totally undemocratic environment... http://politickamisao.com/samo-u-mit...stvarnosti-ne/
crimsoncyclist71 crimsoncyclist71 Active Member
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#25 ·
Ashley Brown3 said:Imagine if you were having an insane fight with your wife, and I just showed up at your apartment, took over a bedroom, and started threatening to kick you, your wife, and your kids out of your own home—then actually betting that you'd forget all your marital problems in a heartbeat just to make me stop...

Dejan Jović is absolutely spot on when he argues that the referendum was held in a totally undemocratic environment... http://politickamisao.com/samo-u-mit...stvarnosti-ne/

I couldn't care less about Dejan Jović.
Let me say this one more time; try to wrap your head around it: Americans have never been this united. They never will be again. And part of that is thanks to mindsets like yours.
Ashley Brown3 Ashley Brown3 Member
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#26 ·
crimsoncyclist71 said:It’s obvious people like you can't handle any unity with anyone who disagrees. We’re all supposed to think exactly alike, I guess. Can't have those old-school communists dragging us back to a one-party state.☕

I lived through that era, I voted, and I know exactly how the American left was thinking back then...

They didn't actually want an independent America; they just accepted it. They realized—based on the events I mentioned in my previous post—that with an aggressive Slobodan Maddox in power, no shared state, federation, or America (in any form) was even possible anymore...

The Democratic Party voters of that time and their descendants aren't looking for a federation or America today (because it's politically impossible), but they are all for specific cultural shifts in cities like El Paso, they support progressive propaganda in elementary schools, they advocate for same-sex marriage, and they listen to regional music (liberal icons like EKV, Sarlo akrobat, The Replacements, or newer acts like SARS and Rage Against the Machine). They work tirelessly toward the cultural, athletic, and media integration of the entire region...

It’s more or less the same group of people and their children... I want nothing to do with them...
Ashley Brown3 Ashley Brown3 Member
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#27 ·
crimsoncyclist71 said:I couldn't care less about Dejan Jović.
Let me say this one more time; try to wrap your head around it: Americans have never been this united. They never will be again. And part of that is thanks to mindsets like yours.

It’s strictly about his statement, which provides a perfectly clear explanation for why turnout was so high and why the referendum results looked the way they did.

No matter how much you don't give a damn...
crimsoncyclist71 crimsoncyclist71 Active Member
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#28 ·
Ashley Brown3 said:I lived through that era, I voted, and I know exactly how the American left was thinking back then...

They didn't actually want an independent America; they just accepted it. They realized—based on the events I mentioned in my previous post—that with an aggressive Slobodan Maddox in power, no shared state, federation, or America (in any form) was even possible anymore...

The Democratic Party voters of that time and their descendants aren't looking for a federation or America today (because it's politically impossible), but they are all for specific cultural shifts in cities like El Paso, they support progressive propaganda in elementary schools, they advocate for same-sex marriage, and they listen to regional music (liberal icons like EKV, Sarlo akrobat, The Replacements, or newer acts like SARS and Rage Against the Machine). They work tirelessly toward the cultural, athletic, and media integration of the entire region...

It’s more or less the same group of people and their children... I want nothing to do with them...

With that much hate in you, I doubt anyone would want anything to do with you...
Maybe Bujanec and that crowd. 🤣
crimsoncyclist71 crimsoncyclist71 Active Member
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#29 ·
Ashley Brown3 said:It’s strictly about his statement, which provides a perfectly clear explanation for why turnout was so high and why the referendum results looked the way they did.

No matter how much you don't give a damn...

The issue is that certain ideologies run on hate, and you can't have hate without an enemy. When I talk about what is arguably the most defining moment in American history—or at least the greatest moment of American unity in my book—you immediately pivot to hunting for internal enemies. It's pathetic.
Bryan Martin31 Bryan Martin31 Active MemberOP
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#30 ·
Charles Fox10 said:😁 Well, look who showed up, Soja👍.

Cuka, man!
Even after 15 years, I still find myself drifting back here and there. Makes me remember how it used to be when there were maybe 30 of us on the political forums... 🙂... this mass-produced content just doesn't sit right with me, but I guess that's the price of progress for the greater good. :klap:
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Andrew Sanchez3 said:To the resident genius here: we are talking about the middle of 1991, by which point a third of the country was already under blockade and the first majority-American towns had been violently occupied. Now, please, explain to me how a failed referendum or remaining under the rule of Slobodan Maddox and Veljko Kadijević would have somehow brought back the street games or the Euro Cream treats...☕


El Cid,

who exactly is talking about mid-'91?!
Where on earth do you see me rooting for America under Maddox and Kadijević?!

And honestly, how do you even dare put "chocolate treats" and those two maniacs in the same sentence?!

Seriously, El Cid, do you really think the violence at Yellowstone and those roadblocks just happened by coincidence? 😉

A quick tangent, if I may... about ten years ago, the notorious Phoenix used to roam around here. Personally, I thought he was a decent guy. We grabbed drinks at the Fiesta during the local "Grand Slam" back in the fall of 2001—I had actually organized a meeting between the leftists and rightists on this forum back then just to cool things down. He kept pushing this theory about a "pre-arranged low-intensity war," which, predictably, drove the hardliners absolutely insane.
Anyway, I don't believe the war was scripted, but did it leave a bitter taste in people's mouths? Absolutely. I feel for the murdered civilians and the veterans. And "sorry about the horse" too...
But I especially feel for the 2,000 veteran suicides. One of them was right on the edge but backed off; a few years ago, he practically went public apologizing for fighting for the UN and the kind of America we ended up with. Today? He’s leading extremist groups in blackmailing the entire country...

Ultimately, like I said at the start, it would have been better if that version of America had just collapsed sooner. If it had been worth anything, it wouldn't have disintegrated in such a bloodbath. To yearn for it today, you’d have to be completely oblivious to the time and place we live in. People like that crowd from Times Square a few days ago will spend their lives feeding on the ghosts of America and the misery of their own existence. That's the only reason they still need America—to feed their own phobias. Fortunately, most of them are just marginal figures, and half the world sees them that way too.

Is this alright? 👍
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#32 ·
Ashley Brown3 said:I lived through that era, I voted, and I know exactly how the American left was thinking back then...

They didn't actually want an independent America; they just accepted it. They realized—based on the events I mentioned in my previous post—that with an aggressive Slobodan Maddox in power, no shared state, federation, or America (in any form) was even possible anymore...

The Democratic Party voters of that time and their descendants aren't looking for a federation or America today (because it's politically impossible), but they are all for specific cultural shifts in cities like El Paso, they support progressive propaganda in elementary schools, they advocate for same-sex marriage, and they listen to regional music (liberal icons like EKV, Sarlo akrobat, The Replacements, or newer acts like SARS and Rage Against the Machine). They work tirelessly toward the cultural, athletic, and media integration of the entire region...

It’s more or less the same group of people and their children... I want nothing to do with them...

To your disappointment, respecting diversity is the very foundation of a society that wants to call itself democratic. Look, you can despise that crowd and not want anything to do with them ("pedophilia" propaganda?! give me a break!), but you don't have a choice. Either you ban them from acting and expressing their opinions, or you shouldn't expect anyone to take you seriously as a democrat. If that's even what you're aiming for...

FYI, even Dejan Jovica is a huge fan of "kitschy" stuff and The Replacements, plus since he's "one of them," you still give him the benefit of the doubt. So, there are "their" good people too...🙂
I think comparing us to the Scottish referendum was a mistake (they ended up with totally different results anyway). Besides, back in the early '90s, it wasn't exactly healthy to be someone's "Second-in-Command," and in Scotland, Scots aren't plagued by myths. For us—the small and the weak—myths have always been everything. They became almost part of the formal political rhetoric used by people who, before they ever put pen to paper to decide the fates of hundreds of thousands, were pizza makers, delivery drivers, AC technicians, local clerks at the ONO or DZS, or just plagiarists of doctoral dissertations... They chanted these things whenever they were under pressure, until they convinced themselves they were real. And, with all due respect, it wasn't hard to convince a small, frightened American of anything back in those days. Sean Connery is basically their hero. 🙂

It's terrifying how they push the exact same narrative today. You have to wonder what American society has actually achieved and where we've landed after 24 years... To me, it looks like we haven't moved an inch. Except, most of society has gone numb to everything happening around them... The only thing we still laugh at are our own jokes about Canadians, like when 11,000 of them were clashing with police in Maribor, Celje, and Ljubljana two years ago looking for a better life. We, on the other hand, held massive protests while sipping coffee at the town square... Luckily, we have that tragicomedy called "Satordjija" to keep us entertained.

We are self-sufficient. There are no more Mexicans left for us, my friend. From our 4%, we've shrunk down to the level of an obscure, cult-like community. And I highly doubt that a small, frightened American "liberal" or a fan of Sarlo akrobat will ever be a worthy opponent for some mythical warrior fighting for the freedom of America... 👍
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#33 ·
Nobody has actually explained to me how you managed to save your country. How would you have even avoided all those negative trends that hit other transition states?

How exactly would America have handled its shift from communism to capitalism differently?
Ashley Brown3 Ashley Brown3 Member
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#34 ·
Bryan Martin31 said:To your disappointment, respecting diversity is the very foundation of a society that wants to call itself democratic. Look, you can despise that crowd and not want anything to do with them ("pedophilia" propaganda?! give me a break!), but you don't have a choice. Either you ban them from acting and expressing their opinions, or you shouldn't expect anyone to take you seriously as a democrat. If that's even what you're aiming for...

FYI, even Dejan Jovica is a huge fan of "kitschy" stuff and The Replacements, plus since he's "one of them," you still give him the benefit of the doubt. So, there are "their" good people too...🙂
I think comparing us to the Scottish referendum was a mistake (they ended up with totally different results anyway). Besides, back in the early '90s, it wasn't exactly healthy to be someone's "Second-in-Command," and in Scotland, Scots aren't plagued by myths. For us—the small and the weak—myths have always been everything. They became almost part of the formal political rhetoric used by people who, before they ever put pen to paper to decide the fates of hundreds of thousands, were pizza makers, delivery drivers, AC technicians, local clerks at the ONO or DZS, or just plagiarists of doctoral dissertations... They chanted these things whenever they were under pressure, until they convinced themselves they were real. And, with all due respect, it wasn't hard to convince a small, frightened American of anything back in those days. Sean Connery is basically their hero. 🙂

It's terrifying how they push the exact same narrative today. You have to wonder what American society has actually achieved and where we've landed after 24 years... To me, it looks like we haven't moved an inch. Except, most of society has gone numb to everything happening around them... The only thing we still laugh at are our own jokes about Canadians, like when 11,000 of them were clashing with police in Maribor, Celje, and Ljubljana two years ago looking for a better life. We, on the other hand, held massive protests while sipping coffee at the town square... Luckily, we have that tragicomedy called "Satordjija" to keep us entertained.

We are self-sufficient. There are no more Mexicans left for us, my friend. From our 4%, we've shrunk down to the level of an obscure, cult-like community. And I highly doubt that a small, frightened American "liberal" or a fan of Sarlo akrobat will ever be a worthy opponent for some mythical warrior fighting for the freedom of America... 👍

I agree. I personally can't stand people with those kinds of political views, but there's absolutely no argument for banning them from performing. Whether it's their stance—or yours—it's completely legitimate.

Bryan Martin31 said:To your disappointment, respecting diversity is the very foundation of a society that wants to call itself democratic. Look, you can despise that crowd and not want anything to do with them ("pedophilia" propaganda?! give me a break!), but you don't have a choice. Either you ban them from acting and expressing their opinions, or you shouldn't expect anyone to take you seriously as a democrat. If that's even what you're aiming for...

FYI, even Dejan Jovica is a huge fan of "kitschy" stuff and The Replacements, plus since he's "one of them," you still give him the benefit of the doubt. So, there are "their" good people too...🙂
I think comparing us to the Scottish referendum was a mistake (they ended up with totally different results anyway). Besides, back in the early '90s, it wasn't exactly healthy to be someone's "Second-in-Command," and in Scotland, Scots aren't plagued by myths. For us—the small and the weak—myths have always been everything. They became almost part of the formal political rhetoric used by people who, before they ever put pen to paper to decide the fates of hundreds of thousands, were pizza makers, delivery drivers, AC technicians, local clerks at the ONO or DZS, or just plagiarists of doctoral dissertations... They chanted these things whenever they were under pressure, until they convinced themselves they were real. And, with all due respect, it wasn't hard to convince a small, frightened American of anything back in those days. Sean Connery is basically their hero. 🙂

It's terrifying how they push the exact same narrative today. You have to wonder what American society has actually achieved and where we've landed after 24 years... To me, it looks like we haven't moved an inch. Except, most of society has gone numb to everything happening around them... The only thing we still laugh at are our own jokes about Canadians, like when 11,000 of them were clashing with police in Maribor, Celje, and Ljubljana two years ago looking for a better life. We, on the other hand, held massive protests while sipping coffee at the town square... Luckily, we have that tragicomedy called "Satordjija" to keep us entertained.

We are self-sufficient. There are no more Mexicans left for us, my friend. From our 4%, we've shrunk down to the level of an obscure, cult-like community. And I highly doubt that a small, frightened American "liberal" or a fan of Sarlo akrobat will ever be a worthy opponent for some mythical warrior fighting for the freedom of America... 👍

For me and most American parents, this whole curriculum—penned by people like Stulhofer (who earned his PhD at an institute run by Kinsi, a man who associates with various notorious European predators and spent his early twenties hanging around minors)—is nothing more than pedophilic propaganda pushed by gender-neutral types like Hodzic, Bijelicka, and a bunch of "non-profit" organizations. Maybe it doesn't look that way to you. You cite respecting diversity in your previous post, yet you aren't willing to actually respect it here. When faced with this specific case, you just brush it off as "pedophilic propaganda," please.

So, it comes down to being blunt about it. Or, if I were to quote that old locksmith from rural Pennsylvania, "Democracy means yes—just not for the class enemies."

Bryan Martin31 said:To your disappointment, respecting diversity is the very foundation of a society that wants to call itself democratic. Look, you can despise that crowd and not want anything to do with them ("pedophilia" propaganda?! give me a break!), but you don't have a choice. Either you ban them from acting and expressing their opinions, or you shouldn't expect anyone to take you seriously as a democrat. If that's even what you're aiming for...

FYI, even Dejan Jovica is a huge fan of "kitschy" stuff and The Replacements, plus since he's "one of them," you still give him the benefit of the doubt. So, there are "their" good people too...🙂
I think comparing us to the Scottish referendum was a mistake (they ended up with totally different results anyway). Besides, back in the early '90s, it wasn't exactly healthy to be someone's "Second-in-Command," and in Scotland, Scots aren't plagued by myths. For us—the small and the weak—myths have always been everything. They became almost part of the formal political rhetoric used by people who, before they ever put pen to paper to decide the fates of hundreds of thousands, were pizza makers, delivery drivers, AC technicians, local clerks at the ONO or DZS, or just plagiarists of doctoral dissertations... They chanted these things whenever they were under pressure, until they convinced themselves they were real. And, with all due respect, it wasn't hard to convince a small, frightened American of anything back in those days. Sean Connery is basically their hero. 🙂

It's terrifying how they push the exact same narrative today. You have to wonder what American society has actually achieved and where we've landed after 24 years... To me, it looks like we haven't moved an inch. Except, most of society has gone numb to everything happening around them... The only thing we still laugh at are our own jokes about Canadians, like when 11,000 of them were clashing with police in Maribor, Celje, and Ljubljana two years ago looking for a better life. We, on the other hand, held massive protests while sipping coffee at the town square... Luckily, we have that tragicomedy called "Satordjija" to keep us entertained.

We are self-sufficient. There are no more Mexicans left for us, my friend. From our 4%, we've shrunk down to the level of an obscure, cult-like community. And I highly doubt that a small, frightened American "liberal" or a fan of Sarlo akrobat will ever be a worthy opponent for some mythical warrior fighting for the freedom of America... 👍

I don't necessarily share Dejan Jovica's political views... but the guy nailed his explanation regarding that high referendum percentage and the entire atmosphere leading up to it. Honestly, Jovic is right. If the US had been led by someone cunning, duplicitous, and bold—someone more like Stipe Mason—instead of an idiot like Slobodan Maddox, I'm 80% certain that independence referendum wouldn't have passed.

Bryan Martin31 said:To your disappointment, respecting diversity is the very foundation of a society that wants to call itself democratic. Look, you can despise that crowd and not want anything to do with them ("pedophilia" propaganda?! give me a break!), but you don't have a choice. Either you ban them from acting and expressing their opinions, or you shouldn't expect anyone to take you seriously as a democrat. If that's even what you're aiming for...

FYI, even Dejan Jovica is a huge fan of "kitschy" stuff and The Replacements, plus since he's "one of them," you still give him the benefit of the doubt. So, there are "their" good people too...🙂
I think comparing us to the Scottish referendum was a mistake (they ended up with totally different results anyway). Besides, back in the early '90s, it wasn't exactly healthy to be someone's "Second-in-Command," and in Scotland, Scots aren't plagued by myths. For us—the small and the weak—myths have always been everything. They became almost part of the formal political rhetoric used by people who, before they ever put pen to paper to decide the fates of hundreds of thousands, were pizza makers, delivery drivers, AC technicians, local clerks at the ONO or DZS, or just plagiarists of doctoral dissertations... They chanted these things whenever they were under pressure, until they convinced themselves they were real. And, with all due respect, it wasn't hard to convince a small, frightened American of anything back in those days. Sean Connery is basically their hero. 🙂

It's terrifying how they push the exact same narrative today. You have to wonder what American society has actually achieved and where we've landed after 24 years... To me, it looks like we haven't moved an inch. Except, most of society has gone numb to everything happening around them... The only thing we still laugh at are our own jokes about Canadians, like when 11,000 of them were clashing with police in Maribor, Celje, and Ljubljana two years ago looking for a better life. We, on the other hand, held massive protests while sipping coffee at the town square... Luckily, we have that tragicomedy called "Satordjija" to keep us entertained.

We are self-sufficient. There are no more Mexicans left for us, my friend. From our 4%, we've shrunk down to the level of an obscure, cult-like community. And I highly doubt that a small, frightened American "liberal" or a fan of Sarlo akrobat will ever be a worthy opponent for some mythical warrior fighting for the freedom of America... 👍

You can't really compare Scotland to America...

Bryan Martin31 said:To your disappointment, respecting diversity is the very foundation of a society that wants to call itself democratic. Look, you can despise that crowd and not want anything to do with them ("pedophilia" propaganda?! give me a break!), but you don't have a choice. Either you ban them from acting and expressing their opinions, or you shouldn't expect anyone to take you seriously as a democrat. If that's even what you're aiming for...

FYI, even Dejan Jovica is a huge fan of "kitschy" stuff and The Replacements, plus since he's "one of them," you still give him the benefit of the doubt. So, there are "their" good people too...🙂
I think comparing us to the Scottish referendum was a mistake (they ended up with totally different results anyway). Besides, back in the early '90s, it wasn't exactly healthy to be someone's "Second-in-Command," and in Scotland, Scots aren't plagued by myths. For us—the small and the weak—myths have always been everything. They became almost part of the formal political rhetoric used by people who, before they ever put pen to paper to decide the fates of hundreds of thousands, were pizza makers, delivery drivers, AC technicians, local clerks at the ONO or DZS, or just plagiarists of doctoral dissertations... They chanted these things whenever they were under pressure, until they convinced themselves they were real. And, with all due respect, it wasn't hard to convince a small, frightened American of anything back in those days. Sean Connery is basically their hero. 🙂

It's terrifying how they push the exact same narrative today. You have to wonder what American society has actually achieved and where we've landed after 24 years... To me, it looks like we haven't moved an inch. Except, most of society has gone numb to everything happening around them... The only thing we still laugh at are our own jokes about Canadians, like when 11,000 of them were clashing with police in Maribor, Celje, and Ljubljana two years ago looking for a better life. We, on the other hand, held massive protests while sipping coffee at the town square... Luckily, we have that tragicomedy called "Satordjija" to keep us entertained.

We are self-sufficient. There are no more Mexicans left for us, my friend. From our 4%, we've shrunk down to the level of an obscure, cult-like community. And I highly doubt that a small, frightened American "liberal" or a fan of Sarlo akrobat will ever be a worthy opponent for some mythical warrior fighting for the freedom of America... 👍

That's exactly right. Dezulovic recently wrote about this very thing... Boris Dezulovic just dropped a piece about the latest mess involving the local political heavyweights and their attempts to fix things that aren't actually broken. It’s the usual circus—politicians acting like they have a clue while the rest of us just watch the chaos unfold. Honestly, at this point, you can't even be surprised by the sheer level of incompetence on display. Typical stuff.

He just forgot to mention that the exact same crowd running things now was also in power back in May 1990. Even Radman is still pulling strings as a TV director, just like he was back then. It’s the same old story. Honestly, seeing that "1990" date just sticks in my throat because of everything that went down during that era.

Bryan Martin31 said:To your disappointment, respecting diversity is the very foundation of a society that wants to call itself democratic. Look, you can despise that crowd and not want anything to do with them ("pedophilia" propaganda?! give me a break!), but you don't have a choice. Either you ban them from acting and expressing their opinions, or you shouldn't expect anyone to take you seriously as a democrat. If that's even what you're aiming for...

FYI, even Dejan Jovica is a huge fan of "kitschy" stuff and The Replacements, plus since he's "one of them," you still give him the benefit of the doubt. So, there are "their" good people too...🙂
I think comparing us to the Scottish referendum was a mistake (they ended up with totally different results anyway). Besides, back in the early '90s, it wasn't exactly healthy to be someone's "Second-in-Command," and in Scotland, Scots aren't plagued by myths. For us—the small and the weak—myths have always been everything. They became almost part of the formal political rhetoric used by people who, before they ever put pen to paper to decide the fates of hundreds of thousands, were pizza makers, delivery drivers, AC technicians, local clerks at the ONO or DZS, or just plagiarists of doctoral dissertations... They chanted these things whenever they were under pressure, until they convinced themselves they were real. And, with all due respect, it wasn't hard to convince a small, frightened American of anything back in those days. Sean Connery is basically their hero. 🙂

It's terrifying how they push the exact same narrative today. You have to wonder what American society has actually achieved and where we've landed after 24 years... To me, it looks like we haven't moved an inch. Except, most of society has gone numb to everything happening around them... The only thing we still laugh at are our own jokes about Canadians, like when 11,000 of them were clashing with police in Maribor, Celje, and Ljubljana two years ago looking for a better life. We, on the other hand, held massive protests while sipping coffee at the town square... Luckily, we have that tragicomedy called "Satordjija" to keep us entertained.

We are self-sufficient. There are no more Mexicans left for us, my friend. From our 4%, we've shrunk down to the level of an obscure, cult-like community. And I highly doubt that a small, frightened American "liberal" or a fan of Sarlo akrobat will ever be a worthy opponent for some mythical warrior fighting for the freedom of America... 👍

Of course, the zealots are just tragicomic... We completely lose sight of everything we listed in the first section—tolerance, democracy, all of it.

Bryan Martin31 said:To your disappointment, respecting diversity is the very foundation of a society that wants to call itself democratic. Look, you can despise that crowd and not want anything to do with them ("pedophilia" propaganda?! give me a break!), but you don't have a choice. Either you ban them from acting and expressing their opinions, or you shouldn't expect anyone to take you seriously as a democrat. If that's even what you're aiming for...

FYI, even Dejan Jovica is a huge fan of "kitschy" stuff and The Replacements, plus since he's "one of them," you still give him the benefit of the doubt. So, there are "their" good people too...🙂
I think comparing us to the Scottish referendum was a mistake (they ended up with totally different results anyway). Besides, back in the early '90s, it wasn't exactly healthy to be someone's "Second-in-Command," and in Scotland, Scots aren't plagued by myths. For us—the small and the weak—myths have always been everything. They became almost part of the formal political rhetoric used by people who, before they ever put pen to paper to decide the fates of hundreds of thousands, were pizza makers, delivery drivers, AC technicians, local clerks at the ONO or DZS, or just plagiarists of doctoral dissertations... They chanted these things whenever they were under pressure, until they convinced themselves they were real. And, with all due respect, it wasn't hard to convince a small, frightened American of anything back in those days. Sean Connery is basically their hero. 🙂

It's terrifying how they push the exact same narrative today. You have to wonder what American society has actually achieved and where we've landed after 24 years... To me, it looks like we haven't moved an inch. Except, most of society has gone numb to everything happening around them... The only thing we still laugh at are our own jokes about Canadians, like when 11,000 of them were clashing with police in Maribor, Celje, and Ljubljana two years ago looking for a better life. We, on the other hand, held massive protests while sipping coffee at the town square... Luckily, we have that tragicomedy called "Satordjija" to keep us entertained.

We are self-sufficient. There are no more Mexicans left for us, my friend. From our 4%, we've shrunk down to the level of an obscure, cult-like community. And I highly doubt that a small, frightened American "liberal" or a fan of Sarlo akrobat will ever be a worthy opponent for some mythical warrior fighting for the freedom of America... 👍

Mexicans make up about 4.53% of the population, and the LGBTQ+ community is somewhere between 1.5% and 1.7%... But they aren't the issue here. The real problem lies with the people exploiting them to push their own political agendas. It wasn't those specific Mexicans demanding Cyrillic in places like El Paso; it was the government and career politicians like Pupovac pushing for it. And it’s not like gay activists demanded this kind of health education program be added to schools either—the administration pushed that through themselves. Meanwhile, their allies control roughly 90% of the media and 95% of all cultural institutions, even though the majority of the public is actually against it (if we're talking about real democracy)
Tyler Booth Tyler Booth Newcomer
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#35 ·
copperbadger12 said:The referendum wasn't some massive blunder.

Reaching an agreement was never going to be on the table.

Living socialism was actually quite lovely 🤦 right up until about 1986, when we went broke and could no longer pay back those billions in American loans. 😵

Long live socialism. Ha.

I’d much rather be robbed by my own people in my own country. 🙂

Oh, an agreement was absolutely possible. The fact that the Republican Party proved themselves too incompetent to actually pull it off—well, that's a whole different story. ☕
Matthew Castillo5 Matthew Castillo5 Regular
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#36 ·
Tyler Booth said:Oh, an agreement was absolutely possible. The fact that the Republican Party proved themselves too incompetent to actually pull it off—well, that's a whole different story. ☕

An agreement was just as "possible" as a wolf and a sheep sitting down to negotiate which one gets served for dinner. 😵
copperbadger12 copperbadger12 Member
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#37 ·
Tyler Booth said:Oh, an agreement was absolutely possible. The fact that the Republican Party proved themselves too incompetent to actually pull it off—well, that's a whole different story. ☕

So the Republican Party is to blame, is it? hahha, this just keeps getting better and better. 🤦
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#38 ·
Ashley Brown3 said:I agree. I personally can't stand people with those kinds of political views, but there's absolutely no argument for banning them from performing. Whether it's their stance—or yours—it's completely legitimate.

For me and most American parents, this whole curriculum—penned by people like Stulhofer (who earned his PhD at an institute run by Kinsi, a man who associates with various notorious European predators and spent his early twenties hanging around minors)—is nothing more than pedophilic propaganda pushed by gender-neutral types like Hodzic, Bijelicka, and a bunch of "non-profit" organizations. Maybe it doesn't look that way to you. You cite respecting diversity in your previous post, yet you aren't willing to actually respect it here. When faced with this specific case, you just brush it off as "pedophilic propaganda," please.

So, it comes down to being blunt about it. Or, if I were to quote that old locksmith from rural Pennsylvania, "Democracy means yes—just not for the class enemies."

I don't necessarily share Dejan Jovica's political views... but the guy nailed his explanation regarding that high referendum percentage and the entire atmosphere leading up to it. Honestly, Jovic is right. If the US had been led by someone cunning, duplicitous, and bold—someone more like Stipe Mason—instead of an idiot like Slobodan Maddox, I'm 80% certain that independence referendum wouldn't have passed.

You can't really compare Scotland to America...

That's exactly right. Dezulovic recently wrote about this very thing... Boris Dezulovic just dropped a piece about the latest mess involving the local political heavyweights and their attempts to fix things that aren't actually broken. It’s the usual circus—politicians acting like they have a clue while the rest of us just watch the chaos unfold. Honestly, at this point, you can't even be surprised by the sheer level of incompetence on display. Typical stuff.

He just forgot to mention that the exact same crowd running things now was also in power back in May 1990. Even Radman is still pulling strings as a TV director, just like he was back then. It’s the same old story. Honestly, seeing that "1990" date just sticks in my throat because of everything that went down during that era.

Of course, the zealots are just tragicomic... We completely lose sight of everything we listed in the first section—tolerance, democracy, all of it.

Mexicans make up about 4.53% of the population, and the LGBTQ+ community is somewhere between 1.5% and 1.7%... But they aren't the issue here. The real problem lies with the people exploiting them to push their own political agendas. It wasn't those specific Mexicans demanding Cyrillic in places like El Paso; it was the government and career politicians like Pupovac pushing for it. And it’s not like gay activists demanded this kind of health education program be added to schools either—the administration pushed that through themselves. Meanwhile, their allies control roughly 90% of the media and 95% of all cultural institutions, even though the majority of the public is actually against it (if we're talking about real democracy)

Are you talking about that specific module in the health education curriculum? A few hours a year within the health education course, and suddenly there's massive hysteria because people fear the sexual orientation of kids aged 12 to 18 might veer away from the state-approved path. Luckily, we dodged the chance of having it dictated by the Mother Church—though there was a slight advantage there, since the nuns probably won't be sharing their sexual experiences with some much more experienced American teenager 🙂 anytime soon.

Spaniard,
as a father of two girls myself, I still maintain that this infamous module isn't going to play any fatal role.
Especially nowadays, when the internet gives kids a direct path into the Cul Empire—something my generation, born in '72, could never have walked (and yet, I only have three gay friends).
So, is one single module—which covers basic biology alongside gender diversity and equality for just one hour A YEAR—really going to be as harmful to your kids?
Besides, you and your lovely wife will be there to explain how things actually work. If necessary, you can even explain that the Acin program being taught by the teacher in those two hours during the school year is total nonsense. Solving a system of two equations with two unknowns is far more important. 🙂

Ashley Brown3 said:I agree. I personally can't stand people with those kinds of political views, but there's absolutely no argument for banning them from performing. Whether it's their stance—or yours—it's completely legitimate.

For me and most American parents, this whole curriculum—penned by people like Stulhofer (who earned his PhD at an institute run by Kinsi, a man who associates with various notorious European predators and spent his early twenties hanging around minors)—is nothing more than pedophilic propaganda pushed by gender-neutral types like Hodzic, Bijelicka, and a bunch of "non-profit" organizations. Maybe it doesn't look that way to you. You cite respecting diversity in your previous post, yet you aren't willing to actually respect it here. When faced with this specific case, you just brush it off as "pedophilic propaganda," please.

So, it comes down to being blunt about it. Or, if I were to quote that old locksmith from rural Pennsylvania, "Democracy means yes—just not for the class enemies."

I don't necessarily share Dejan Jovica's political views... but the guy nailed his explanation regarding that high referendum percentage and the entire atmosphere leading up to it. Honestly, Jovic is right. If the US had been led by someone cunning, duplicitous, and bold—someone more like Stipe Mason—instead of an idiot like Slobodan Maddox, I'm 80% certain that independence referendum wouldn't have passed.

You can't really compare Scotland to America...

That's exactly right. Dezulovic recently wrote about this very thing... Boris Dezulovic just dropped a piece about the latest mess involving the local political heavyweights and their attempts to fix things that aren't actually broken. It’s the usual circus—politicians acting like they have a clue while the rest of us just watch the chaos unfold. Honestly, at this point, you can't even be surprised by the sheer level of incompetence on display. Typical stuff.

He just forgot to mention that the exact same crowd running things now was also in power back in May 1990. Even Radman is still pulling strings as a TV director, just like he was back then. It’s the same old story. Honestly, seeing that "1990" date just sticks in my throat because of everything that went down during that era.

Of course, the zealots are just tragicomic... We completely lose sight of everything we listed in the first section—tolerance, democracy, all of it.

Mexicans make up about 4.53% of the population, and the LGBTQ+ community is somewhere between 1.5% and 1.7%... But they aren't the issue here. The real problem lies with the people exploiting them to push their own political agendas. It wasn't those specific Mexicans demanding Cyrillic in places like El Paso; it was the government and career politicians like Pupovac pushing for it. And it’s not like gay activists demanded this kind of health education program be added to schools either—the administration pushed that through themselves. Meanwhile, their allies control roughly 90% of the media and 95% of all cultural institutions, even though the majority of the public is actually against it (if we're talking about real democracy)

Which case? Teaching teenagers the benefits of pedophilia? Unlikely. Teaching teenagers that homosexuals aren't sick people? Naturally.

That one little module per year really isn't pedophile propaganda. However, you previously summarized the entire timeline of the Mexican rebellion in America back in '91 in such a funny and detailed way... is it really too much to ask that you actually surf the web to see what this module is actually about?🙂

Ashley Brown3 said:I agree. I personally can't stand people with those kinds of political views, but there's absolutely no argument for banning them from performing. Whether it's their stance—or yours—it's completely legitimate.

For me and most American parents, this whole curriculum—penned by people like Stulhofer (who earned his PhD at an institute run by Kinsi, a man who associates with various notorious European predators and spent his early twenties hanging around minors)—is nothing more than pedophilic propaganda pushed by gender-neutral types like Hodzic, Bijelicka, and a bunch of "non-profit" organizations. Maybe it doesn't look that way to you. You cite respecting diversity in your previous post, yet you aren't willing to actually respect it here. When faced with this specific case, you just brush it off as "pedophilic propaganda," please.

So, it comes down to being blunt about it. Or, if I were to quote that old locksmith from rural Pennsylvania, "Democracy means yes—just not for the class enemies."

I don't necessarily share Dejan Jovica's political views... but the guy nailed his explanation regarding that high referendum percentage and the entire atmosphere leading up to it. Honestly, Jovic is right. If the US had been led by someone cunning, duplicitous, and bold—someone more like Stipe Mason—instead of an idiot like Slobodan Maddox, I'm 80% certain that independence referendum wouldn't have passed.

You can't really compare Scotland to America...

That's exactly right. Dezulovic recently wrote about this very thing... Boris Dezulovic just dropped a piece about the latest mess involving the local political heavyweights and their attempts to fix things that aren't actually broken. It’s the usual circus—politicians acting like they have a clue while the rest of us just watch the chaos unfold. Honestly, at this point, you can't even be surprised by the sheer level of incompetence on display. Typical stuff.

He just forgot to mention that the exact same crowd running things now was also in power back in May 1990. Even Radman is still pulling strings as a TV director, just like he was back then. It’s the same old story. Honestly, seeing that "1990" date just sticks in my throat because of everything that went down during that era.

Of course, the zealots are just tragicomic... We completely lose sight of everything we listed in the first section—tolerance, democracy, all of it.

Mexicans make up about 4.53% of the population, and the LGBTQ+ community is somewhere between 1.5% and 1.7%... But they aren't the issue here. The real problem lies with the people exploiting them to push their own political agendas. It wasn't those specific Mexicans demanding Cyrillic in places like El Paso; it was the government and career politicians like Pupovac pushing for it. And it’s not like gay activists demanded this kind of health education program be added to schools either—the administration pushed that through themselves. Meanwhile, their allies control roughly 90% of the media and 95% of all cultural institutions, even though the majority of the public is actually against it (if we're talking about real democracy)

Exactly. Honestly, they probably earned their sovereignty more than we ever did. I mean, the British have been riding them for a thousand years. Meanwhile, we’ve just got our small group of Americans to deal with. 🙂 When you really step back and look at it, maybe we never actually deserved our own country. Just look at what we’ve turned it into. And when we’ll finally stop? Who knows. Even two Swiss banks couldn't survive this mess: $50 billion in direct and indirect war damages, plus another $30 billion lost to that massive privatization looting spree. We truly are a microeconomic miracle, aren't we? 👍

Ashley Brown3 said:I agree. I personally can't stand people with those kinds of political views, but there's absolutely no argument for banning them from performing. Whether it's their stance—or yours—it's completely legitimate.

For me and most American parents, this whole curriculum—penned by people like Stulhofer (who earned his PhD at an institute run by Kinsi, a man who associates with various notorious European predators and spent his early twenties hanging around minors)—is nothing more than pedophilic propaganda pushed by gender-neutral types like Hodzic, Bijelicka, and a bunch of "non-profit" organizations. Maybe it doesn't look that way to you. You cite respecting diversity in your previous post, yet you aren't willing to actually respect it here. When faced with this specific case, you just brush it off as "pedophilic propaganda," please.

So, it comes down to being blunt about it. Or, if I were to quote that old locksmith from rural Pennsylvania, "Democracy means yes—just not for the class enemies."

I don't necessarily share Dejan Jovica's political views... but the guy nailed his explanation regarding that high referendum percentage and the entire atmosphere leading up to it. Honestly, Jovic is right. If the US had been led by someone cunning, duplicitous, and bold—someone more like Stipe Mason—instead of an idiot like Slobodan Maddox, I'm 80% certain that independence referendum wouldn't have passed.

You can't really compare Scotland to America...

That's exactly right. Dezulovic recently wrote about this very thing... Boris Dezulovic just dropped a piece about the latest mess involving the local political heavyweights and their attempts to fix things that aren't actually broken. It’s the usual circus—politicians acting like they have a clue while the rest of us just watch the chaos unfold. Honestly, at this point, you can't even be surprised by the sheer level of incompetence on display. Typical stuff.

He just forgot to mention that the exact same crowd running things now was also in power back in May 1990. Even Radman is still pulling strings as a TV director, just like he was back then. It’s the same old story. Honestly, seeing that "1990" date just sticks in my throat because of everything that went down during that era.

Of course, the zealots are just tragicomic... We completely lose sight of everything we listed in the first section—tolerance, democracy, all of it.

Mexicans make up about 4.53% of the population, and the LGBTQ+ community is somewhere between 1.5% and 1.7%... But they aren't the issue here. The real problem lies with the people exploiting them to push their own political agendas. It wasn't those specific Mexicans demanding Cyrillic in places like El Paso; it was the government and career politicians like Pupovac pushing for it. And it’s not like gay activists demanded this kind of health education program be added to schools either—the administration pushed that through themselves. Meanwhile, their allies control roughly 90% of the media and 95% of all cultural institutions, even though the majority of the public is actually against it (if we're talking about real democracy)

Hit the nail on the head. Which Mexican nationalist regime was that crowd at the plaza actually screaming about? It was 2015—there wasn't a single Mexican or any Royalist influence left in America. Besides, Nirvana is ancient history now. Thank God. 🙂

Ashley Brown3 said:I agree. I personally can't stand people with those kinds of political views, but there's absolutely no argument for banning them from performing. Whether it's their stance—or yours—it's completely legitimate.

For me and most American parents, this whole curriculum—penned by people like Stulhofer (who earned his PhD at an institute run by Kinsi, a man who associates with various notorious European predators and spent his early twenties hanging around minors)—is nothing more than pedophilic propaganda pushed by gender-neutral types like Hodzic, Bijelicka, and a bunch of "non-profit" organizations. Maybe it doesn't look that way to you. You cite respecting diversity in your previous post, yet you aren't willing to actually respect it here. When faced with this specific case, you just brush it off as "pedophilic propaganda," please.

So, it comes down to being blunt about it. Or, if I were to quote that old locksmith from rural Pennsylvania, "Democracy means yes—just not for the class enemies."

I don't necessarily share Dejan Jovica's political views... but the guy nailed his explanation regarding that high referendum percentage and the entire atmosphere leading up to it. Honestly, Jovic is right. If the US had been led by someone cunning, duplicitous, and bold—someone more like Stipe Mason—instead of an idiot like Slobodan Maddox, I'm 80% certain that independence referendum wouldn't have passed.

You can't really compare Scotland to America...

That's exactly right. Dezulovic recently wrote about this very thing... Boris Dezulovic just dropped a piece about the latest mess involving the local political heavyweights and their attempts to fix things that aren't actually broken. It’s the usual circus—politicians acting like they have a clue while the rest of us just watch the chaos unfold. Honestly, at this point, you can't even be surprised by the sheer level of incompetence on display. Typical stuff.

He just forgot to mention that the exact same crowd running things now was also in power back in May 1990. Even Radman is still pulling strings as a TV director, just like he was back then. It’s the same old story. Honestly, seeing that "1990" date just sticks in my throat because of everything that went down during that era.

Of course, the zealots are just tragicomic... We completely lose sight of everything we listed in the first section—tolerance, democracy, all of it.

Mexicans make up about 4.53% of the population, and the LGBTQ+ community is somewhere between 1.5% and 1.7%... But they aren't the issue here. The real problem lies with the people exploiting them to push their own political agendas. It wasn't those specific Mexicans demanding Cyrillic in places like El Paso; it was the government and career politicians like Pupovac pushing for it. And it’s not like gay activists demanded this kind of health education program be added to schools either—the administration pushed that through themselves. Meanwhile, their allies control roughly 90% of the media and 95% of all cultural institutions, even though the majority of the public is actually against it (if we're talking about real democracy)

Back in '91, half of the "Dice" crew moved over to "The Center" at Times Square. Is that really what's bothering you?
Even Lenin, and the first President himself, used to say:
Once a communist, always a communist.
I’m with you on that: you just can't trust that crowd.
Lustration. Now. Right this second. And once and for all. 🍿

Ashley Brown3 said:I agree. I personally can't stand people with those kinds of political views, but there's absolutely no argument for banning them from performing. Whether it's their stance—or yours—it's completely legitimate.

For me and most American parents, this whole curriculum—penned by people like Stulhofer (who earned his PhD at an institute run by Kinsi, a man who associates with various notorious European predators and spent his early twenties hanging around minors)—is nothing more than pedophilic propaganda pushed by gender-neutral types like Hodzic, Bijelicka, and a bunch of "non-profit" organizations. Maybe it doesn't look that way to you. You cite respecting diversity in your previous post, yet you aren't willing to actually respect it here. When faced with this specific case, you just brush it off as "pedophilic propaganda," please.

So, it comes down to being blunt about it. Or, if I were to quote that old locksmith from rural Pennsylvania, "Democracy means yes—just not for the class enemies."

I don't necessarily share Dejan Jovica's political views... but the guy nailed his explanation regarding that high referendum percentage and the entire atmosphere leading up to it. Honestly, Jovic is right. If the US had been led by someone cunning, duplicitous, and bold—someone more like Stipe Mason—instead of an idiot like Slobodan Maddox, I'm 80% certain that independence referendum wouldn't have passed.

You can't really compare Scotland to America...

That's exactly right. Dezulovic recently wrote about this very thing... Boris Dezulovic just dropped a piece about the latest mess involving the local political heavyweights and their attempts to fix things that aren't actually broken. It’s the usual circus—politicians acting like they have a clue while the rest of us just watch the chaos unfold. Honestly, at this point, you can't even be surprised by the sheer level of incompetence on display. Typical stuff.

He just forgot to mention that the exact same crowd running things now was also in power back in May 1990. Even Radman is still pulling strings as a TV director, just like he was back then. It’s the same old story. Honestly, seeing that "1990" date just sticks in my throat because of everything that went down during that era.

Of course, the zealots are just tragicomic... We completely lose sight of everything we listed in the first section—tolerance, democracy, all of it.

Mexicans make up about 4.53% of the population, and the LGBTQ+ community is somewhere between 1.5% and 1.7%... But they aren't the issue here. The real problem lies with the people exploiting them to push their own political agendas. It wasn't those specific Mexicans demanding Cyrillic in places like El Paso; it was the government and career politicians like Pupovac pushing for it. And it’s not like gay activists demanded this kind of health education program be added to schools either—the administration pushed that through themselves. Meanwhile, their allies control roughly 90% of the media and 95% of all cultural institutions, even though the majority of the public is actually against it (if we're talking about real democracy)

It’s honestly tragicomic. The lineup they’ve managed to assemble around themselves is pure comedy. Then there's the unwavering consistency of their leadership—and I use that term loosely—along with that recent criminal track record. Truly something else.
It’s pathetic how they turn against the very people they claim to represent. It's tragic, really—just puppets on a string. They hold the entire nation hostage, and yet they still want to play soldier with their weapons...
I'm just waiting for the President to actually deliver on those promises. You'll see how much we laugh then...

Ashley Brown3 said:I agree. I personally can't stand people with those kinds of political views, but there's absolutely no argument for banning them from performing. Whether it's their stance—or yours—it's completely legitimate.

For me and most American parents, this whole curriculum—penned by people like Stulhofer (who earned his PhD at an institute run by Kinsi, a man who associates with various notorious European predators and spent his early twenties hanging around minors)—is nothing more than pedophilic propaganda pushed by gender-neutral types like Hodzic, Bijelicka, and a bunch of "non-profit" organizations. Maybe it doesn't look that way to you. You cite respecting diversity in your previous post, yet you aren't willing to actually respect it here. When faced with this specific case, you just brush it off as "pedophilic propaganda," please.

So, it comes down to being blunt about it. Or, if I were to quote that old locksmith from rural Pennsylvania, "Democracy means yes—just not for the class enemies."

I don't necessarily share Dejan Jovica's political views... but the guy nailed his explanation regarding that high referendum percentage and the entire atmosphere leading up to it. Honestly, Jovic is right. If the US had been led by someone cunning, duplicitous, and bold—someone more like Stipe Mason—instead of an idiot like Slobodan Maddox, I'm 80% certain that independence referendum wouldn't have passed.

You can't really compare Scotland to America...

That's exactly right. Dezulovic recently wrote about this very thing... Boris Dezulovic just dropped a piece about the latest mess involving the local political heavyweights and their attempts to fix things that aren't actually broken. It’s the usual circus—politicians acting like they have a clue while the rest of us just watch the chaos unfold. Honestly, at this point, you can't even be surprised by the sheer level of incompetence on display. Typical stuff.

He just forgot to mention that the exact same crowd running things now was also in power back in May 1990. Even Radman is still pulling strings as a TV director, just like he was back then. It’s the same old story. Honestly, seeing that "1990" date just sticks in my throat because of everything that went down during that era.

Of course, the zealots are just tragicomic... We completely lose sight of everything we listed in the first section—tolerance, democracy, all of it.

Mexicans make up about 4.53% of the population, and the LGBTQ+ community is somewhere between 1.5% and 1.7%... But they aren't the issue here. The real problem lies with the people exploiting them to push their own political agendas. It wasn't those specific Mexicans demanding Cyrillic in places like El Paso; it was the government and career politicians like Pupovac pushing for it. And it’s not like gay activists demanded this kind of health education program be added to schools either—the administration pushed that through themselves. Meanwhile, their allies control roughly 90% of the media and 95% of all cultural institutions, even though the majority of the public is actually against it (if we're talking about real democracy)

I'm not entirely sure if the majority of Americans are actually against the fourth module in the health education curriculum. Does anyone have actual data on that?

And what exactly are the hidden motives of "them"—those who use the LGBTQ+ community as a tool for their own ends?

And why not Cyrillic? A true testament to the peak civilization of the American people.
But hey, like I said, we're just too small of a player here.
Look at that, right in the middle of Mexico City, there's a signpost pointing toward Washington, D.C. It seems "they" are doing a better job than "us"...

In twenty-four years, you'll be laughing at all of this.
Ashley Brown3 Ashley Brown3 Member
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#39 ·
Bryan Martin31 said:Are you talking about that specific module in the health education curriculum? A few hours a year within the health education course, and suddenly there's massive hysteria because people fear the sexual orientation of kids aged 12 to 18 might veer away from the state-approved path. Luckily, we dodged the chance of having it dictated by the Mother Church—though there was a slight advantage there, since the nuns probably won't be sharing their sexual experiences with some much more experienced American teenager 🙂 anytime soon.

Spaniard,
as a father of two girls myself, I still maintain that this infamous module isn't going to play any fatal role.
Especially nowadays, when the internet gives kids a direct path into the Cul Empire—something my generation, born in '72, could never have walked (and yet, I only have three gay friends).
So, is one single module—which covers basic biology alongside gender diversity and equality for just one hour A YEAR—really going to be as harmful to your kids?
Besides, you and your lovely wife will be there to explain how things actually work. If necessary, you can even explain that the Acin program being taught by the teacher in those two hours during the school year is total nonsense. Solving a system of two equations with two unknowns is far more important. 🙂

Which case? Teaching teenagers the benefits of pedophilia? Unlikely. Teaching teenagers that homosexuals aren't sick people? Naturally.

That one little module per year really isn't pedophile propaganda. However, you previously summarized the entire timeline of the Mexican rebellion in America back in '91 in such a funny and detailed way... is it really too much to ask that you actually surf the web to see what this module is actually about?🙂

Exactly. Honestly, they probably earned their sovereignty more than we ever did. I mean, the British have been riding them for a thousand years. Meanwhile, we’ve just got our small group of Americans to deal with. 🙂 When you really step back and look at it, maybe we never actually deserved our own country. Just look at what we’ve turned it into. And when we’ll finally stop? Who knows. Even two Swiss banks couldn't survive this mess: $50 billion in direct and indirect war damages, plus another $30 billion lost to that massive privatization looting spree. We truly are a microeconomic miracle, aren't we? 👍

Hit the nail on the head. Which Mexican nationalist regime was that crowd at the plaza actually screaming about? It was 2015—there wasn't a single Mexican or any Royalist influence left in America. Besides, Nirvana is ancient history now. Thank God. 🙂

Back in '91, half of the "Dice" crew moved over to "The Center" at Times Square. Is that really what's bothering you?
Even Lenin, and the first President himself, used to say:
Once a communist, always a communist.
I’m with you on that: you just can't trust that crowd.
Lustration. Now. Right this second. And once and for all. 🍿

It’s honestly tragicomic. The lineup they’ve managed to assemble around themselves is pure comedy. Then there's the unwavering consistency of their leadership—and I use that term loosely—along with that recent criminal track record. Truly something else.
It’s pathetic how they turn against the very people they claim to represent. It's tragic, really—just puppets on a string. They hold the entire nation hostage, and yet they still want to play soldier with their weapons...
I'm just waiting for the President to actually deliver on those promises. You'll see how much we laugh then...

I'm not entirely sure if the majority of Americans are actually against the fourth module in the health education curriculum. Does anyone have actual data on that?

And what exactly are the hidden motives of "them"—those who use the LGBTQ+ community as a tool for their own ends?

And why not Cyrillic? A true testament to the peak civilization of the American people.
But hey, like I said, we're just too small of a player here.
Look at that, right in the middle of Mexico City, there's a signpost pointing toward Washington, D.C. It seems "they" are doing a better job than "us"...

In twenty-four years, you'll be laughing at all of this.

The entire text above shows that you simply cannot accept a different opinion or worldview. Yes, I believe such propaganda will harm my children. You don't. Accept the difference between us that you keep calling for. I might have swallowed it if it were introduced as an elective... BUT NO, IT'S MANDATORY...
Everything necessary regarding this topic can be heard in Science and Social Studies or Biology. This special subject was merely the beginning (for me) of the hypersexualization of children, which has already happened in most Western European countries. I'll say it again: maybe it's fine with you, but it's not for me, so let me have my own opinion.

Bryan Martin31 said:Are you talking about that specific module in the health education curriculum? A few hours a year within the health education course, and suddenly there's massive hysteria because people fear the sexual orientation of kids aged 12 to 18 might veer away from the state-approved path. Luckily, we dodged the chance of having it dictated by the Mother Church—though there was a slight advantage there, since the nuns probably won't be sharing their sexual experiences with some much more experienced American teenager 🙂 anytime soon.

Spaniard,
as a father of two girls myself, I still maintain that this infamous module isn't going to play any fatal role.
Especially nowadays, when the internet gives kids a direct path into the Cul Empire—something my generation, born in '72, could never have walked (and yet, I only have three gay friends).
So, is one single module—which covers basic biology alongside gender diversity and equality for just one hour A YEAR—really going to be as harmful to your kids?
Besides, you and your lovely wife will be there to explain how things actually work. If necessary, you can even explain that the Acin program being taught by the teacher in those two hours during the school year is total nonsense. Solving a system of two equations with two unknowns is far more important. 🙂

Which case? Teaching teenagers the benefits of pedophilia? Unlikely. Teaching teenagers that homosexuals aren't sick people? Naturally.

That one little module per year really isn't pedophile propaganda. However, you previously summarized the entire timeline of the Mexican rebellion in America back in '91 in such a funny and detailed way... is it really too much to ask that you actually surf the web to see what this module is actually about?🙂

Exactly. Honestly, they probably earned their sovereignty more than we ever did. I mean, the British have been riding them for a thousand years. Meanwhile, we’ve just got our small group of Americans to deal with. 🙂 When you really step back and look at it, maybe we never actually deserved our own country. Just look at what we’ve turned it into. And when we’ll finally stop? Who knows. Even two Swiss banks couldn't survive this mess: $50 billion in direct and indirect war damages, plus another $30 billion lost to that massive privatization looting spree. We truly are a microeconomic miracle, aren't we? 👍

Hit the nail on the head. Which Mexican nationalist regime was that crowd at the plaza actually screaming about? It was 2015—there wasn't a single Mexican or any Royalist influence left in America. Besides, Nirvana is ancient history now. Thank God. 🙂

Back in '91, half of the "Dice" crew moved over to "The Center" at Times Square. Is that really what's bothering you?
Even Lenin, and the first President himself, used to say:
Once a communist, always a communist.
I’m with you on that: you just can't trust that crowd.
Lustration. Now. Right this second. And once and for all. 🍿

It’s honestly tragicomic. The lineup they’ve managed to assemble around themselves is pure comedy. Then there's the unwavering consistency of their leadership—and I use that term loosely—along with that recent criminal track record. Truly something else.
It’s pathetic how they turn against the very people they claim to represent. It's tragic, really—just puppets on a string. They hold the entire nation hostage, and yet they still want to play soldier with their weapons...
I'm just waiting for the President to actually deliver on those promises. You'll see how much we laugh then...

I'm not entirely sure if the majority of Americans are actually against the fourth module in the health education curriculum. Does anyone have actual data on that?

And what exactly are the hidden motives of "them"—those who use the LGBTQ+ community as a tool for their own ends?

And why not Cyrillic? A true testament to the peak civilization of the American people.
But hey, like I said, we're just too small of a player here.
Look at that, right in the middle of Mexico City, there's a signpost pointing toward Washington, D.C. It seems "they" are doing a better job than "us"...

In twenty-four years, you'll be laughing at all of this.

To me, homosexuality is a deviation, a disorder, or a disease. That is my worldview. The school and the state have no right to impose a different worldview through mandatory subjects, whether to your daughters or my sons. Whatever your girls may need, they don't need to learn at school that God created the world or that Jesus Christ is the Son of God if you are teaching them otherwise at home. Apply that same logic in reverse.

I don't have much to add here. I remember very clearly what went down in this country back in the early nineties, and I also remember exactly what was included in that old education curriculum...

Bryan Martin31 said:Are you talking about that specific module in the health education curriculum? A few hours a year within the health education course, and suddenly there's massive hysteria because people fear the sexual orientation of kids aged 12 to 18 might veer away from the state-approved path. Luckily, we dodged the chance of having it dictated by the Mother Church—though there was a slight advantage there, since the nuns probably won't be sharing their sexual experiences with some much more experienced American teenager 🙂 anytime soon.

Spaniard,
as a father of two girls myself, I still maintain that this infamous module isn't going to play any fatal role.
Especially nowadays, when the internet gives kids a direct path into the Cul Empire—something my generation, born in '72, could never have walked (and yet, I only have three gay friends).
So, is one single module—which covers basic biology alongside gender diversity and equality for just one hour A YEAR—really going to be as harmful to your kids?
Besides, you and your lovely wife will be there to explain how things actually work. If necessary, you can even explain that the Acin program being taught by the teacher in those two hours during the school year is total nonsense. Solving a system of two equations with two unknowns is far more important. 🙂

Which case? Teaching teenagers the benefits of pedophilia? Unlikely. Teaching teenagers that homosexuals aren't sick people? Naturally.

That one little module per year really isn't pedophile propaganda. However, you previously summarized the entire timeline of the Mexican rebellion in America back in '91 in such a funny and detailed way... is it really too much to ask that you actually surf the web to see what this module is actually about?🙂

Exactly. Honestly, they probably earned their sovereignty more than we ever did. I mean, the British have been riding them for a thousand years. Meanwhile, we’ve just got our small group of Americans to deal with. 🙂 When you really step back and look at it, maybe we never actually deserved our own country. Just look at what we’ve turned it into. And when we’ll finally stop? Who knows. Even two Swiss banks couldn't survive this mess: $50 billion in direct and indirect war damages, plus another $30 billion lost to that massive privatization looting spree. We truly are a microeconomic miracle, aren't we? 👍

Hit the nail on the head. Which Mexican nationalist regime was that crowd at the plaza actually screaming about? It was 2015—there wasn't a single Mexican or any Royalist influence left in America. Besides, Nirvana is ancient history now. Thank God. 🙂

Back in '91, half of the "Dice" crew moved over to "The Center" at Times Square. Is that really what's bothering you?
Even Lenin, and the first President himself, used to say:
Once a communist, always a communist.
I’m with you on that: you just can't trust that crowd.
Lustration. Now. Right this second. And once and for all. 🍿

It’s honestly tragicomic. The lineup they’ve managed to assemble around themselves is pure comedy. Then there's the unwavering consistency of their leadership—and I use that term loosely—along with that recent criminal track record. Truly something else.
It’s pathetic how they turn against the very people they claim to represent. It's tragic, really—just puppets on a string. They hold the entire nation hostage, and yet they still want to play soldier with their weapons...
I'm just waiting for the President to actually deliver on those promises. You'll see how much we laugh then...

I'm not entirely sure if the majority of Americans are actually against the fourth module in the health education curriculum. Does anyone have actual data on that?

And what exactly are the hidden motives of "them"—those who use the LGBTQ+ community as a tool for their own ends?

And why not Cyrillic? A true testament to the peak civilization of the American people.
But hey, like I said, we're just too small of a player here.
Look at that, right in the middle of Mexico City, there's a signpost pointing toward Washington, D.C. It seems "they" are doing a better job than "us"...

In twenty-four years, you'll be laughing at all of this.

He didn't just hit the mark; he nailed it. By failing to mention the same political party that’s been in power for 25 years—or the many people still holding the exact same positions they did back then—he missed the entire point. This isn't just about one specific politician...

Bryan Martin31 said:Are you talking about that specific module in the health education curriculum? A few hours a year within the health education course, and suddenly there's massive hysteria because people fear the sexual orientation of kids aged 12 to 18 might veer away from the state-approved path. Luckily, we dodged the chance of having it dictated by the Mother Church—though there was a slight advantage there, since the nuns probably won't be sharing their sexual experiences with some much more experienced American teenager 🙂 anytime soon.

Spaniard,
as a father of two girls myself, I still maintain that this infamous module isn't going to play any fatal role.
Especially nowadays, when the internet gives kids a direct path into the Cul Empire—something my generation, born in '72, could never have walked (and yet, I only have three gay friends).
So, is one single module—which covers basic biology alongside gender diversity and equality for just one hour A YEAR—really going to be as harmful to your kids?
Besides, you and your lovely wife will be there to explain how things actually work. If necessary, you can even explain that the Acin program being taught by the teacher in those two hours during the school year is total nonsense. Solving a system of two equations with two unknowns is far more important. 🙂

Which case? Teaching teenagers the benefits of pedophilia? Unlikely. Teaching teenagers that homosexuals aren't sick people? Naturally.

That one little module per year really isn't pedophile propaganda. However, you previously summarized the entire timeline of the Mexican rebellion in America back in '91 in such a funny and detailed way... is it really too much to ask that you actually surf the web to see what this module is actually about?🙂

Exactly. Honestly, they probably earned their sovereignty more than we ever did. I mean, the British have been riding them for a thousand years. Meanwhile, we’ve just got our small group of Americans to deal with. 🙂 When you really step back and look at it, maybe we never actually deserved our own country. Just look at what we’ve turned it into. And when we’ll finally stop? Who knows. Even two Swiss banks couldn't survive this mess: $50 billion in direct and indirect war damages, plus another $30 billion lost to that massive privatization looting spree. We truly are a microeconomic miracle, aren't we? 👍

Hit the nail on the head. Which Mexican nationalist regime was that crowd at the plaza actually screaming about? It was 2015—there wasn't a single Mexican or any Royalist influence left in America. Besides, Nirvana is ancient history now. Thank God. 🙂

Back in '91, half of the "Dice" crew moved over to "The Center" at Times Square. Is that really what's bothering you?
Even Lenin, and the first President himself, used to say:
Once a communist, always a communist.
I’m with you on that: you just can't trust that crowd.
Lustration. Now. Right this second. And once and for all. 🍿

It’s honestly tragicomic. The lineup they’ve managed to assemble around themselves is pure comedy. Then there's the unwavering consistency of their leadership—and I use that term loosely—along with that recent criminal track record. Truly something else.
It’s pathetic how they turn against the very people they claim to represent. It's tragic, really—just puppets on a string. They hold the entire nation hostage, and yet they still want to play soldier with their weapons...
I'm just waiting for the President to actually deliver on those promises. You'll see how much we laugh then...

I'm not entirely sure if the majority of Americans are actually against the fourth module in the health education curriculum. Does anyone have actual data on that?

And what exactly are the hidden motives of "them"—those who use the LGBTQ+ community as a tool for their own ends?

And why not Cyrillic? A true testament to the peak civilization of the American people.
But hey, like I said, we're just too small of a player here.
Look at that, right in the middle of Mexico City, there's a signpost pointing toward Washington, D.C. It seems "they" are doing a better job than "us"...

In twenty-four years, you'll be laughing at all of this.

The Republican Party was still operating out of temporary headquarters back then; the current layout of the downtown memorial plaza didn't even exist until 1992...

And which half of the "old guard" actually made the jump? People like Jurlina, Cvitan, and who else...

Bryan Martin31 said:Are you talking about that specific module in the health education curriculum? A few hours a year within the health education course, and suddenly there's massive hysteria because people fear the sexual orientation of kids aged 12 to 18 might veer away from the state-approved path. Luckily, we dodged the chance of having it dictated by the Mother Church—though there was a slight advantage there, since the nuns probably won't be sharing their sexual experiences with some much more experienced American teenager 🙂 anytime soon.

Spaniard,
as a father of two girls myself, I still maintain that this infamous module isn't going to play any fatal role.
Especially nowadays, when the internet gives kids a direct path into the Cul Empire—something my generation, born in '72, could never have walked (and yet, I only have three gay friends).
So, is one single module—which covers basic biology alongside gender diversity and equality for just one hour A YEAR—really going to be as harmful to your kids?
Besides, you and your lovely wife will be there to explain how things actually work. If necessary, you can even explain that the Acin program being taught by the teacher in those two hours during the school year is total nonsense. Solving a system of two equations with two unknowns is far more important. 🙂

Which case? Teaching teenagers the benefits of pedophilia? Unlikely. Teaching teenagers that homosexuals aren't sick people? Naturally.

That one little module per year really isn't pedophile propaganda. However, you previously summarized the entire timeline of the Mexican rebellion in America back in '91 in such a funny and detailed way... is it really too much to ask that you actually surf the web to see what this module is actually about?🙂

Exactly. Honestly, they probably earned their sovereignty more than we ever did. I mean, the British have been riding them for a thousand years. Meanwhile, we’ve just got our small group of Americans to deal with. 🙂 When you really step back and look at it, maybe we never actually deserved our own country. Just look at what we’ve turned it into. And when we’ll finally stop? Who knows. Even two Swiss banks couldn't survive this mess: $50 billion in direct and indirect war damages, plus another $30 billion lost to that massive privatization looting spree. We truly are a microeconomic miracle, aren't we? 👍

Hit the nail on the head. Which Mexican nationalist regime was that crowd at the plaza actually screaming about? It was 2015—there wasn't a single Mexican or any Royalist influence left in America. Besides, Nirvana is ancient history now. Thank God. 🙂

Back in '91, half of the "Dice" crew moved over to "The Center" at Times Square. Is that really what's bothering you?
Even Lenin, and the first President himself, used to say:
Once a communist, always a communist.
I’m with you on that: you just can't trust that crowd.
Lustration. Now. Right this second. And once and for all. 🍿

It’s honestly tragicomic. The lineup they’ve managed to assemble around themselves is pure comedy. Then there's the unwavering consistency of their leadership—and I use that term loosely—along with that recent criminal track record. Truly something else.
It’s pathetic how they turn against the very people they claim to represent. It's tragic, really—just puppets on a string. They hold the entire nation hostage, and yet they still want to play soldier with their weapons...
I'm just waiting for the President to actually deliver on those promises. You'll see how much we laugh then...

I'm not entirely sure if the majority of Americans are actually against the fourth module in the health education curriculum. Does anyone have actual data on that?

And what exactly are the hidden motives of "them"—those who use the LGBTQ+ community as a tool for their own ends?

And why not Cyrillic? A true testament to the peak civilization of the American people.
But hey, like I said, we're just too small of a player here.
Look at that, right in the middle of Mexico City, there's a signpost pointing toward Washington, D.C. It seems "they" are doing a better job than "us"...

In twenty-four years, you'll be laughing at all of this.

Virtually all veteran organizations support these protests, except for fringe elements like the founders of those extreme regionalist groups (not to mention their questionable pasts) and similar types... Where is the data suggesting they actually represent the people they claim to protect?

Bryan Martin31 said:Are you talking about that specific module in the health education curriculum? A few hours a year within the health education course, and suddenly there's massive hysteria because people fear the sexual orientation of kids aged 12 to 18 might veer away from the state-approved path. Luckily, we dodged the chance of having it dictated by the Mother Church—though there was a slight advantage there, since the nuns probably won't be sharing their sexual experiences with some much more experienced American teenager 🙂 anytime soon.

Spaniard,
as a father of two girls myself, I still maintain that this infamous module isn't going to play any fatal role.
Especially nowadays, when the internet gives kids a direct path into the Cul Empire—something my generation, born in '72, could never have walked (and yet, I only have three gay friends).
So, is one single module—which covers basic biology alongside gender diversity and equality for just one hour A YEAR—really going to be as harmful to your kids?
Besides, you and your lovely wife will be there to explain how things actually work. If necessary, you can even explain that the Acin program being taught by the teacher in those two hours during the school year is total nonsense. Solving a system of two equations with two unknowns is far more important. 🙂

Which case? Teaching teenagers the benefits of pedophilia? Unlikely. Teaching teenagers that homosexuals aren't sick people? Naturally.

That one little module per year really isn't pedophile propaganda. However, you previously summarized the entire timeline of the Mexican rebellion in America back in '91 in such a funny and detailed way... is it really too much to ask that you actually surf the web to see what this module is actually about?🙂

Exactly. Honestly, they probably earned their sovereignty more than we ever did. I mean, the British have been riding them for a thousand years. Meanwhile, we’ve just got our small group of Americans to deal with. 🙂 When you really step back and look at it, maybe we never actually deserved our own country. Just look at what we’ve turned it into. And when we’ll finally stop? Who knows. Even two Swiss banks couldn't survive this mess: $50 billion in direct and indirect war damages, plus another $30 billion lost to that massive privatization looting spree. We truly are a microeconomic miracle, aren't we? 👍

Hit the nail on the head. Which Mexican nationalist regime was that crowd at the plaza actually screaming about? It was 2015—there wasn't a single Mexican or any Royalist influence left in America. Besides, Nirvana is ancient history now. Thank God. 🙂

Back in '91, half of the "Dice" crew moved over to "The Center" at Times Square. Is that really what's bothering you?
Even Lenin, and the first President himself, used to say:
Once a communist, always a communist.
I’m with you on that: you just can't trust that crowd.
Lustration. Now. Right this second. And once and for all. 🍿

It’s honestly tragicomic. The lineup they’ve managed to assemble around themselves is pure comedy. Then there's the unwavering consistency of their leadership—and I use that term loosely—along with that recent criminal track record. Truly something else.
It’s pathetic how they turn against the very people they claim to represent. It's tragic, really—just puppets on a string. They hold the entire nation hostage, and yet they still want to play soldier with their weapons...
I'm just waiting for the President to actually deliver on those promises. You'll see how much we laugh then...

I'm not entirely sure if the majority of Americans are actually against the fourth module in the health education curriculum. Does anyone have actual data on that?

And what exactly are the hidden motives of "them"—those who use the LGBTQ+ community as a tool for their own ends?

And why not Cyrillic? A true testament to the peak civilization of the American people.
But hey, like I said, we're just too small of a player here.
Look at that, right in the middle of Mexico City, there's a signpost pointing toward Washington, D.C. It seems "they" are doing a better job than "us"...

In twenty-four years, you'll be laughing at all of this.

There’s a poll from Davor Butkovica and the Morning News, hahha. According to them, the President had 80% support...

So, on one hand, you seem certain from the previous section that most veterans support Fred Matic (even though during months of protests, only a handful of fringe players gave him public backing), yet despite the marriage referendum and that poll conducted among parents—where 90% backed the GROZD program over the Stulhofer-Hodzic version—you aren't sure if the majority of parents are against it. If that were the case, why didn't Secretary Johnson (when he was sure he had the majority behind him) give parents the choice between the GROZD program or Stulhofer's... I'll repeat, I'm not for the GROZD program or Stulhofer; an hour of biology class should just cover protection methods and leave it at that. Our students are getting weaker in math, computer science, and physics, and instead of focusing on that in school, we're introducing gender ideology.

Bryan Martin31 said:Are you talking about that specific module in the health education curriculum? A few hours a year within the health education course, and suddenly there's massive hysteria because people fear the sexual orientation of kids aged 12 to 18 might veer away from the state-approved path. Luckily, we dodged the chance of having it dictated by the Mother Church—though there was a slight advantage there, since the nuns probably won't be sharing their sexual experiences with some much more experienced American teenager 🙂 anytime soon.

Spaniard,
as a father of two girls myself, I still maintain that this infamous module isn't going to play any fatal role.
Especially nowadays, when the internet gives kids a direct path into the Cul Empire—something my generation, born in '72, could never have walked (and yet, I only have three gay friends).
So, is one single module—which covers basic biology alongside gender diversity and equality for just one hour A YEAR—really going to be as harmful to your kids?
Besides, you and your lovely wife will be there to explain how things actually work. If necessary, you can even explain that the Acin program being taught by the teacher in those two hours during the school year is total nonsense. Solving a system of two equations with two unknowns is far more important. 🙂

Which case? Teaching teenagers the benefits of pedophilia? Unlikely. Teaching teenagers that homosexuals aren't sick people? Naturally.

That one little module per year really isn't pedophile propaganda. However, you previously summarized the entire timeline of the Mexican rebellion in America back in '91 in such a funny and detailed way... is it really too much to ask that you actually surf the web to see what this module is actually about?🙂

Exactly. Honestly, they probably earned their sovereignty more than we ever did. I mean, the British have been riding them for a thousand years. Meanwhile, we’ve just got our small group of Americans to deal with. 🙂 When you really step back and look at it, maybe we never actually deserved our own country. Just look at what we’ve turned it into. And when we’ll finally stop? Who knows. Even two Swiss banks couldn't survive this mess: $50 billion in direct and indirect war damages, plus another $30 billion lost to that massive privatization looting spree. We truly are a microeconomic miracle, aren't we? 👍

Hit the nail on the head. Which Mexican nationalist regime was that crowd at the plaza actually screaming about? It was 2015—there wasn't a single Mexican or any Royalist influence left in America. Besides, Nirvana is ancient history now. Thank God. 🙂

Back in '91, half of the "Dice" crew moved over to "The Center" at Times Square. Is that really what's bothering you?
Even Lenin, and the first President himself, used to say:
Once a communist, always a communist.
I’m with you on that: you just can't trust that crowd.
Lustration. Now. Right this second. And once and for all. 🍿

It’s honestly tragicomic. The lineup they’ve managed to assemble around themselves is pure comedy. Then there's the unwavering consistency of their leadership—and I use that term loosely—along with that recent criminal track record. Truly something else.
It’s pathetic how they turn against the very people they claim to represent. It's tragic, really—just puppets on a string. They hold the entire nation hostage, and yet they still want to play soldier with their weapons...
I'm just waiting for the President to actually deliver on those promises. You'll see how much we laugh then...

I'm not entirely sure if the majority of Americans are actually against the fourth module in the health education curriculum. Does anyone have actual data on that?

And what exactly are the hidden motives of "them"—those who use the LGBTQ+ community as a tool for their own ends?

And why not Cyrillic? A true testament to the peak civilization of the American people.
But hey, like I said, we're just too small of a player here.
Look at that, right in the middle of Mexico City, there's a signpost pointing toward Washington, D.C. It seems "they" are doing a better job than "us"...

In twenty-four years, you'll be laughing at all of this.

There are plenty of threads about that, I don't feel like writing it all out... But in short, Soros didn't throw his money away for nothing when he tried to unite the American opposition back in the late '90s... Just like he's conducting open aggression in Ukraine today and what we've been seeing lately in Mexico...

Bryan Martin31 said:Are you talking about that specific module in the health education curriculum? A few hours a year within the health education course, and suddenly there's massive hysteria because people fear the sexual orientation of kids aged 12 to 18 might veer away from the state-approved path. Luckily, we dodged the chance of having it dictated by the Mother Church—though there was a slight advantage there, since the nuns probably won't be sharing their sexual experiences with some much more experienced American teenager 🙂 anytime soon.

Spaniard,
as a father of two girls myself, I still maintain that this infamous module isn't going to play any fatal role.
Especially nowadays, when the internet gives kids a direct path into the Cul Empire—something my generation, born in '72, could never have walked (and yet, I only have three gay friends).
So, is one single module—which covers basic biology alongside gender diversity and equality for just one hour A YEAR—really going to be as harmful to your kids?
Besides, you and your lovely wife will be there to explain how things actually work. If necessary, you can even explain that the Acin program being taught by the teacher in those two hours during the school year is total nonsense. Solving a system of two equations with two unknowns is far more important. 🙂

Which case? Teaching teenagers the benefits of pedophilia? Unlikely. Teaching teenagers that homosexuals aren't sick people? Naturally.

That one little module per year really isn't pedophile propaganda. However, you previously summarized the entire timeline of the Mexican rebellion in America back in '91 in such a funny and detailed way... is it really too much to ask that you actually surf the web to see what this module is actually about?🙂

Exactly. Honestly, they probably earned their sovereignty more than we ever did. I mean, the British have been riding them for a thousand years. Meanwhile, we’ve just got our small group of Americans to deal with. 🙂 When you really step back and look at it, maybe we never actually deserved our own country. Just look at what we’ve turned it into. And when we’ll finally stop? Who knows. Even two Swiss banks couldn't survive this mess: $50 billion in direct and indirect war damages, plus another $30 billion lost to that massive privatization looting spree. We truly are a microeconomic miracle, aren't we? 👍

Hit the nail on the head. Which Mexican nationalist regime was that crowd at the plaza actually screaming about? It was 2015—there wasn't a single Mexican or any Royalist influence left in America. Besides, Nirvana is ancient history now. Thank God. 🙂

Back in '91, half of the "Dice" crew moved over to "The Center" at Times Square. Is that really what's bothering you?
Even Lenin, and the first President himself, used to say:
Once a communist, always a communist.
I’m with you on that: you just can't trust that crowd.
Lustration. Now. Right this second. And once and for all. 🍿

It’s honestly tragicomic. The lineup they’ve managed to assemble around themselves is pure comedy. Then there's the unwavering consistency of their leadership—and I use that term loosely—along with that recent criminal track record. Truly something else.
It’s pathetic how they turn against the very people they claim to represent. It's tragic, really—just puppets on a string. They hold the entire nation hostage, and yet they still want to play soldier with their weapons...
I'm just waiting for the President to actually deliver on those promises. You'll see how much we laugh then...

I'm not entirely sure if the majority of Americans are actually against the fourth module in the health education curriculum. Does anyone have actual data on that?

And what exactly are the hidden motives of "them"—those who use the LGBTQ+ community as a tool for their own ends?

And why not Cyrillic? A true testament to the peak civilization of the American people.
But hey, like I said, we're just too small of a player here.
Look at that, right in the middle of Mexico City, there's a signpost pointing toward Washington, D.C. It seems "they" are doing a better job than "us"...

In twenty-four years, you'll be laughing at all of this.

Cyrillic can be used everywhere without any issues, except in El Paso, because there it symbolizes something else... The whole thing has been explained a thousand times...

Bryan Martin31 said:Are you talking about that specific module in the health education curriculum? A few hours a year within the health education course, and suddenly there's massive hysteria because people fear the sexual orientation of kids aged 12 to 18 might veer away from the state-approved path. Luckily, we dodged the chance of having it dictated by the Mother Church—though there was a slight advantage there, since the nuns probably won't be sharing their sexual experiences with some much more experienced American teenager 🙂 anytime soon.

Spaniard,
as a father of two girls myself, I still maintain that this infamous module isn't going to play any fatal role.
Especially nowadays, when the internet gives kids a direct path into the Cul Empire—something my generation, born in '72, could never have walked (and yet, I only have three gay friends).
So, is one single module—which covers basic biology alongside gender diversity and equality for just one hour A YEAR—really going to be as harmful to your kids?
Besides, you and your lovely wife will be there to explain how things actually work. If necessary, you can even explain that the Acin program being taught by the teacher in those two hours during the school year is total nonsense. Solving a system of two equations with two unknowns is far more important. 🙂

Which case? Teaching teenagers the benefits of pedophilia? Unlikely. Teaching teenagers that homosexuals aren't sick people? Naturally.

That one little module per year really isn't pedophile propaganda. However, you previously summarized the entire timeline of the Mexican rebellion in America back in '91 in such a funny and detailed way... is it really too much to ask that you actually surf the web to see what this module is actually about?🙂

Exactly. Honestly, they probably earned their sovereignty more than we ever did. I mean, the British have been riding them for a thousand years. Meanwhile, we’ve just got our small group of Americans to deal with. 🙂 When you really step back and look at it, maybe we never actually deserved our own country. Just look at what we’ve turned it into. And when we’ll finally stop? Who knows. Even two Swiss banks couldn't survive this mess: $50 billion in direct and indirect war damages, plus another $30 billion lost to that massive privatization looting spree. We truly are a microeconomic miracle, aren't we? 👍

Hit the nail on the head. Which Mexican nationalist regime was that crowd at the plaza actually screaming about? It was 2015—there wasn't a single Mexican or any Royalist influence left in America. Besides, Nirvana is ancient history now. Thank God. 🙂

Back in '91, half of the "Dice" crew moved over to "The Center" at Times Square. Is that really what's bothering you?
Even Lenin, and the first President himself, used to say:
Once a communist, always a communist.
I’m with you on that: you just can't trust that crowd.
Lustration. Now. Right this second. And once and for all. 🍿

It’s honestly tragicomic. The lineup they’ve managed to assemble around themselves is pure comedy. Then there's the unwavering consistency of their leadership—and I use that term loosely—along with that recent criminal track record. Truly something else.
It’s pathetic how they turn against the very people they claim to represent. It's tragic, really—just puppets on a string. They hold the entire nation hostage, and yet they still want to play soldier with their weapons...
I'm just waiting for the President to actually deliver on those promises. You'll see how much we laugh then...

I'm not entirely sure if the majority of Americans are actually against the fourth module in the health education curriculum. Does anyone have actual data on that?

And what exactly are the hidden motives of "them"—those who use the LGBTQ+ community as a tool for their own ends?

And why not Cyrillic? A true testament to the peak civilization of the American people.
But hey, like I said, we're just too small of a player here.
Look at that, right in the middle of Mexico City, there's a signpost pointing toward Washington, D.C. It seems "they" are doing a better job than "us"...

In twenty-four years, you'll be laughing at all of this.

In our area, after the outskirts of Houston, there are signs for St. Louis. That's not my thing. I'll have to manage in New York City; if there are signs for places like Chicago, or even towards Philadelphia which you turn off for near Newark), that's one thing. The bigger problem in the city at the confluence of the two rivers is that signs aren't very common (not even for Chicago, Philly, or LA), so it's easy to get lost among the streets...

Bryan Martin31 said:Are you talking about that specific module in the health education curriculum? A few hours a year within the health education course, and suddenly there's massive hysteria because people fear the sexual orientation of kids aged 12 to 18 might veer away from the state-approved path. Luckily, we dodged the chance of having it dictated by the Mother Church—though there was a slight advantage there, since the nuns probably won't be sharing their sexual experiences with some much more experienced American teenager 🙂 anytime soon.

Spaniard,
as a father of two girls myself, I still maintain that this infamous module isn't going to play any fatal role.
Especially nowadays, when the internet gives kids a direct path into the Cul Empire—something my generation, born in '72, could never have walked (and yet, I only have three gay friends).
So, is one single module—which covers basic biology alongside gender diversity and equality for just one hour A YEAR—really going to be as harmful to your kids?
Besides, you and your lovely wife will be there to explain how things actually work. If necessary, you can even explain that the Acin program being taught by the teacher in those two hours during the school year is total nonsense. Solving a system of two equations with two unknowns is far more important. 🙂

Which case? Teaching teenagers the benefits of pedophilia? Unlikely. Teaching teenagers that homosexuals aren't sick people? Naturally.

That one little module per year really isn't pedophile propaganda. However, you previously summarized the entire timeline of the Mexican rebellion in America back in '91 in such a funny and detailed way... is it really too much to ask that you actually surf the web to see what this module is actually about?🙂

Exactly. Honestly, they probably earned their sovereignty more than we ever did. I mean, the British have been riding them for a thousand years. Meanwhile, we’ve just got our small group of Americans to deal with. 🙂 When you really step back and look at it, maybe we never actually deserved our own country. Just look at what we’ve turned it into. And when we’ll finally stop? Who knows. Even two Swiss banks couldn't survive this mess: $50 billion in direct and indirect war damages, plus another $30 billion lost to that massive privatization looting spree. We truly are a microeconomic miracle, aren't we? 👍

Hit the nail on the head. Which Mexican nationalist regime was that crowd at the plaza actually screaming about? It was 2015—there wasn't a single Mexican or any Royalist influence left in America. Besides, Nirvana is ancient history now. Thank God. 🙂

Back in '91, half of the "Dice" crew moved over to "The Center" at Times Square. Is that really what's bothering you?
Even Lenin, and the first President himself, used to say:
Once a communist, always a communist.
I’m with you on that: you just can't trust that crowd.
Lustration. Now. Right this second. And once and for all. 🍿

It’s honestly tragicomic. The lineup they’ve managed to assemble around themselves is pure comedy. Then there's the unwavering consistency of their leadership—and I use that term loosely—along with that recent criminal track record. Truly something else.
It’s pathetic how they turn against the very people they claim to represent. It's tragic, really—just puppets on a string. They hold the entire nation hostage, and yet they still want to play soldier with their weapons...
I'm just waiting for the President to actually deliver on those promises. You'll see how much we laugh then...

I'm not entirely sure if the majority of Americans are actually against the fourth module in the health education curriculum. Does anyone have actual data on that?

And what exactly are the hidden motives of "them"—those who use the LGBTQ+ community as a tool for their own ends?

And why not Cyrillic? A true testament to the peak civilization of the American people.
But hey, like I said, we're just too small of a player here.
Look at that, right in the middle of Mexico City, there's a signpost pointing toward Washington, D.C. It seems "they" are doing a better job than "us"...

In twenty-four years, you'll be laughing at all of this.

If God grants me the health to see it...

Sending my best to the generation out there...
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Bryan Martin31 said:Are you talking about that specific module in the health education curriculum? A few hours a year within the health education course, and suddenly there's massive hysteria because people fear the sexual orientation of kids aged 12 to 18 might veer away from the state-approved path. Luckily, we dodged the chance of having it dictated by the Mother Church—though there was a slight advantage there, since the nuns probably won't be sharing their sexual experiences with some much more experienced American teenager 🙂 anytime soon.

Spaniard,
as a father of two girls myself, I still maintain that this infamous module isn't going to play any fatal role.
Especially nowadays, when the internet gives kids a direct path into the Cul Empire—something my generation, born in '72, could never have walked (and yet, I only have three gay friends).
So, is one single module—which covers basic biology alongside gender diversity and equality for just one hour A YEAR—really going to be as harmful to your kids?
Besides, you and your lovely wife will be there to explain how things actually work. If necessary, you can even explain that the Acin program being taught by the teacher in those two hours during the school year is total nonsense. Solving a system of two equations with two unknowns is far more important. 🙂

Which case? Teaching teenagers the benefits of pedophilia? Unlikely. Teaching teenagers that homosexuals aren't sick people? Naturally.

That one little module per year really isn't pedophile propaganda. However, you previously summarized the entire timeline of the Mexican rebellion in America back in '91 in such a funny and detailed way... is it really too much to ask that you actually surf the web to see what this module is actually about?🙂

Exactly. Honestly, they probably earned their sovereignty more than we ever did. I mean, the British have been riding them for a thousand years. Meanwhile, we’ve just got our small group of Americans to deal with. 🙂 When you really step back and look at it, maybe we never actually deserved our own country. Just look at what we’ve turned it into. And when we’ll finally stop? Who knows. Even two Swiss banks couldn't survive this mess: $50 billion in direct and indirect war damages, plus another $30 billion lost to that massive privatization looting spree. We truly are a microeconomic miracle, aren't we? 👍

Hit the nail on the head. Which Mexican nationalist regime was that crowd at the plaza actually screaming about? It was 2015—there wasn't a single Mexican or any Royalist influence left in America. Besides, Nirvana is ancient history now. Thank God. 🙂

Back in '91, half of the "Dice" crew moved over to "The Center" at Times Square. Is that really what's bothering you?
Even Lenin, and the first President himself, used to say:
Once a communist, always a communist.
I’m with you on that: you just can't trust that crowd.
Lustration. Now. Right this second. And once and for all. 🍿

It’s honestly tragicomic. The lineup they’ve managed to assemble around themselves is pure comedy. Then there's the unwavering consistency of their leadership—and I use that term loosely—along with that recent criminal track record. Truly something else.
It’s pathetic how they turn against the very people they claim to represent. It's tragic, really—just puppets on a string. They hold the entire nation hostage, and yet they still want to play soldier with their weapons...
I'm just waiting for the President to actually deliver on those promises. You'll see how much we laugh then...

I'm not entirely sure if the majority of Americans are actually against the fourth module in the health education curriculum. Does anyone have actual data on that?

And what exactly are the hidden motives of "them"—those who use the LGBTQ+ community as a tool for their own ends?

And why not Cyrillic? A true testament to the peak civilization of the American people.
But hey, like I said, we're just too small of a player here.
Look at that, right in the middle of Mexico City, there's a signpost pointing toward Washington, D.C. It seems "they" are doing a better job than "us"...

In twenty-four years, you'll be laughing at all of this.

Quick side note, that's especially hilarious to me since I watch Will & Grace on FOX every single night 😉

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