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What if Donald Trump was President and George Santos was a Cabinet Secretary?

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Bryan Booth Bryan Booth NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
Just try to wrap your head around this scenario for a second: what if, after the next election, we end up with Donald Trump as Prime Minister and George Santos running the Treasury? Imagine the absolute chaos that would look like.
Samuel Kern Samuel Kern Newcomer
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#2 ·
Bryan Booth said:Just try to wrap your head around this scenario for a second: what if, after the next election, we end up with Donald Trump as Prime Minister and George Santos running the Treasury? Imagine the absolute chaos that would look like.

The return of worker-owned cooperatives...🎉
Mark Lopez8 Mark Lopez8 Member
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#3 ·
Donald Trump would be the absolute savior of America, provided he actually followed through on everything he’s been promising. We need him to just go in there, scrub out all those corrupt institutions, and install actual decent people for once. Honestly, that's the only way to stop this whole country from spiraling further toward total bankruptcy.
Grace Wood5 Grace Wood5 Active Member
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#4 ·
😂 People would start viewing that thief Sanders and the incompetent Milanović (though we’ll probably find out if he’s just as crooked too late 😁) as some kind of hyper-capable saviors, basically the embodiment of Superman. 😂
🤦 As if Sinčić and Pernar could actually do anything. 🤦
crimsonwolf20 crimsonwolf20 Active Member
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#5 ·
Mark Lopez8 said:Donald Trump would be the absolute savior of America, provided he actually followed through on everything he’s been promising. We need him to just go in there, scrub out all those corrupt institutions, and install actual decent people for once. Honestly, that's the only way to stop this whole country from spiraling further toward total bankruptcy.

Ugh, the mother of all naive socialist platitudes. 👍

Oh sure, some "new and honest" folks will magically save us through centralized control—as if every single one of them before them, along with those hundreds of thousands of socialists whose leadership drove every socialist regime straight into the ground, were just bad socialists. They weren't honest—not a single one in the entire history of socialism, imagine that! What a coincidence. 😲

But these guys right now? They're honest and righteous while playing around with everyone else's money and holding massive, concentrated power over the personal and economic freedoms of every citizen!

Because it's always the "bad people" who are responsible for the catastrophic economic failures of socialism, never the system itself...

🤦
Sophia Moore52 Sophia Moore52 Active Member
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#6 ·
crimsonwolf20 said:Ugh, the mother of all naive socialist platitudes. 👍

Oh sure, some "new and honest" folks will magically save us through centralized control—as if every single one of them before them, along with those hundreds of thousands of socialists whose leadership drove every socialist regime straight into the ground, were just bad socialists. They weren't honest—not a single one in the entire history of socialism, imagine that! What a coincidence. 😲

But these guys right now? They're honest and righteous while playing around with everyone else's money and holding massive, concentrated power over the personal and economic freedoms of every citizen!

Because it's always the "bad people" who are responsible for the catastrophic economic failures of socialism, never the system itself...

🤦


I think you might be getting a little mixed up there. We're living in a capitalist system now, which has honestly proven to be much tougher on the average American than socialism ever was... though I suppose myself and a few others are just the exceptions that prove the rule...
crimsonwolf20 crimsonwolf20 Active Member
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#7 ·
Man, if only we actually lived in a real capitalist system! But let's be real—there isn't even a shred of actual capitalism here. There’s zero legal framework to protect anyone, and the market is basically crippled in a million different ways because the government won't stop sticking its nose in everything. It’s all just this massive political machine running on leftovers from a failed socialist experiment—I'm talking about total tax fascism, state monopolies controlling every essential service, those pathetic public monopolies that can't get anything right, and just a straight-up contempt for private entrepreneurs who are forced to foot the bill for it all. Seriously.

The party hacks and their little followers just keep clinging to these socialist delusions, even when common sense is staring them right in the face. We've had hardcore socialists running the show for twenty-five years now within a system that isn't even supposed to be socialist—and honestly? That’s exactly why we’re sinking fast. 👍
Sophia Moore52 Sophia Moore52 Active Member
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#8 ·
crimsonwolf20 said:Man, if only we actually lived in a real capitalist system! But let's be real—there isn't even a shred of actual capitalism here. There’s zero legal framework to protect anyone, and the market is basically crippled in a million different ways because the government won't stop sticking its nose in everything. It’s all just this massive political machine running on leftovers from a failed socialist experiment—I'm talking about total tax fascism, state monopolies controlling every essential service, those pathetic public monopolies that can't get anything right, and just a straight-up contempt for private entrepreneurs who are forced to foot the bill for it all. Seriously.

The party hacks and their little followers just keep clinging to these socialist delusions, even when common sense is staring them right in the face. We've had hardcore socialists running the show for twenty-five years now within a system that isn't even supposed to be socialist—and honestly? That’s exactly why we’re sinking fast. 👍

No, I think you're looking at this entirely wrong... we're sinking because Western corporations just want to profit from us, regardless of who holds domestic power. We need someone to shake off those foreign parasites and lock up the local traitors... but in a "democracy," that seems impossible since most people just don't care enough...
Ryan Carter3 Ryan Carter3 Member
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#9 ·
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Imagine what would happen if, after the next election, we ended up with a Prime Minister and a Secretary of the Treasury who were complete outsiders from the fringes of politics. Just try to picture that scenario.
The human psyche is truly fascinating. It seems as though we are hardwired to bow down to authority. There have been psychological experiments that illustrate quite vividly just how far people will go into the realms of sadism and masochism when an authority figure commands them to—or at least gives them the green light.

This current administration has been relentlessly violating its own citizens for decades, but since they actually hold the reins of power—something those two fringe characters don't—they aren't just ridiculous fools or idiots.

Those two outliers are absolute geniuses in the eyes of anyone who has ever held actual power in this country.

I also find the mechanics and psychology of power to be captivating. Machiavelli wrote about this ages ago. The more of a sociopathic, evil bastard you are, the further you climb. For instance, the classic pyramid of power is structured so that a sociopathic, manipulative monster sits at the very top, while directly beneath them sits one or more total morons. The only difference here is that currently, the moron is sitting at the top.

Unfortunately, the rules of power dictate that the "good guys" always end up coming in last.
But even the good guys—which is exactly what those two are—can finish first if they actually learn how to play the game. 😉
Sophia Moore52 Sophia Moore52 Active Member
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#10 ·
Ryan Carter3 said:
says:
Imagine what would happen if, after the next election, we ended up with a Prime Minister and a Secretary of the Treasury who were complete outsiders from the fringes of politics. Just try to picture that scenario.
The human psyche is truly fascinating. It seems as though we are hardwired to bow down to authority. There have been psychological experiments that illustrate quite vividly just how far people will go into the realms of sadism and masochism when an authority figure commands them to—or at least gives them the green light.

This current administration has been relentlessly violating its own citizens for decades, but since they actually hold the reins of power—something those two fringe characters don't—they aren't just ridiculous fools or idiots.

Those two outliers are absolute geniuses in the eyes of anyone who has ever held actual power in this country.

I also find the mechanics and psychology of power to be captivating. Machiavelli wrote about this ages ago. The more of a sociopathic, evil bastard you are, the further you climb. For instance, the classic pyramid of power is structured so that a sociopathic, manipulative monster sits at the very top, while directly beneath them sits one or more total morons. The only difference here is that currently, the moron is sitting at the top.

Unfortunately, the rules of power dictate that the "good guys" always end up coming in last.
But even the good guys—which is exactly what those two are—can finish first if they actually learn how to play the game. 😉

Besides Machiavelli, there's another great read on this topic:

http://www.amazon.de/Massenpsycholog.../dp/3462017942
crimsonwolf20 crimsonwolf20 Active Member
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#11 ·
Sophia Moore52 said:No, I think you're looking at this entirely wrong... we're sinking because Western corporations just want to profit from us, regardless of who holds domestic power. We need someone to shake off those foreign parasites and lock up the local traitors... but in a "democracy," that seems impossible since most people just don't care enough...

Entrepreneurs, huh? I assume you mean the workers, the business owners, and all those other free individuals out there swapping value for value voluntarily and without anyone forcing their hand? They are the literal backbone of value creation in any society! That’s why countries that actually respect individual economic freedom end up way more prosperous than the ones that systematically crushed it in the name of revolution, the people, or the common good—or whatever other collectivist nonsense is used to trick the masses.

Do you honestly still believe that everyone is just profiting off someone else's back? Like the economy is some kind of zero-sum game? Please! That’s just an old, debunked Marxist cliché that doesn't hold any water at all. Value is *created*. In a free market, if you want someone to voluntarily reward you with their hard-earned money, you actually have to satisfy the customer. If you want output from a worker, you have to satisfy them too. You’ve gotta be better, faster, and more capable than the competition! And let’s be real—workers are perfectly free to sell their labor to whoever they want, so there's absolutely no such thing as "exploitation." That's just more Marxist ramblings from megalomaniacs and sociopaths who want to control everyone else's lives and property. I mean, seriously, did tens of millions of people flee socialist ruins for the capitalist West because they were expecting to be exploited by big business? No way! They wanted to earn an honest living and have the freedom to build their own lives—something socialism steals from people everywhere. They literally risked their lives and their families' safety just to escape those socialist tyrannies.

Any ideology that tries to kill off the natural market of free people—whether it's various flavors of collectivism like fascism, socialism, or communism, or even today's anti-freedom activists—never ends well. Period. 👍
Sophia Moore52 Sophia Moore52 Active Member
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#12 ·
It seems there isn't any text provided to rewrite... I'll be waiting for the next one...
crimsonwolf20 said:Entrepreneurs, huh? I assume you mean the workers, the business owners, and all those other free individuals out there swapping value for value voluntarily and without anyone forcing their hand? They are the literal backbone of value creation in any society! That’s why countries that actually respect individual economic freedom end up way more prosperous than the ones that systematically crushed it in the name of revolution, the people, or the common good—or whatever other collectivist nonsense is used to trick the masses.

Do you honestly still believe that everyone is just profiting off someone else's back? Like the economy is some kind of zero-sum game? Please! That’s just an old, debunked Marxist cliché that doesn't hold any water at all. Value is *created*. In a free market, if you want someone to voluntarily reward you with their hard-earned money, you actually have to satisfy the customer. If you want output from a worker, you have to satisfy them too. You’ve gotta be better, faster, and more capable than the competition! And let’s be real—workers are perfectly free to sell their labor to whoever they want, so there's absolutely no such thing as "exploitation." That's just more Marxist ramblings from megalomaniacs and sociopaths who want to control everyone else's lives and property. I mean, seriously, did tens of millions of people flee socialist ruins for the capitalist West because they were expecting to be exploited by big business? No way! They wanted to earn an honest living and have the freedom to build their own lives—something socialism steals from people everywhere. They literally risked their lives and their families' safety just to escape those socialist tyrannies.

Any ideology that tries to kill off the natural market of free people—whether it's various flavors of collectivism like fascism, socialism, or communism, or even today's anti-freedom activists—never ends well. Period. 👍


Pure nonsense. It sounds like a fairy tale ripped straight from some simplified primer on economics. Honestly, Žižek and Chomsky dismantled these kinds of myths ages ago...
About 90% of the capitalist world is struggling just to get by. The only ones thriving are those who have spent the last century acting like parasites on the rest of us...

The US spends more on defense than the rest of the world combined. If their ideas were truly that powerful, you'd think they'd have enough global support to avoid needing to keep everyone else intimidated...
crimsonwolf20 crimsonwolf20 Active Member
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Sophia Moore52 said:It seems there isn't any text provided to rewrite... I'll be waiting for the next one...

Pure nonsense. It sounds like a fairy tale ripped straight from some simplified primer on economics. Honestly, Žižek and Chomsky dismantled these kinds of myths ages ago...
About 90% of the capitalist world is struggling just to get by. The only ones thriving are those who have spent the last century acting like parasites on the rest of us...

The US spends more on defense than the rest of the world combined. If their ideas were truly that powerful, you'd think they'd have enough global support to avoid needing to keep everyone else intimidated...

🤣
90% of the capitalist world is stuck living in absolute misery—the only ones actually doing well are those tiny elite groups acting like parasites, sucking the life out of the other 90% for over a century now.

🤣
Your precious USA spends way more on weapons than the rest of the world combined—so why? If they were truly that ideologically superior, why would they need to keep everyone else terrified just to maintain their grip?

But seriously, have you ever even stopped to wonder how they actually generate enough value to fund the most powerful, tech-heavy military in human history?

They absolutely crushed your socialist idols—first Hitler, then Stalin during the Cold War, which ended with a massive, stronger America and the total collapse of the USSR. That double defeat for socialism is clearly still a huge sore spot for you socialists, isn't it? ...Well, hey, what can I say? If it hurts, it hurts!😁

🍿
Sophia Moore52 Sophia Moore52 Active Member
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crimsonwolf20 said:🤣
90% of the capitalist world is stuck living in absolute misery—the only ones actually doing well are those tiny elite groups acting like parasites, sucking the life out of the other 90% for over a century now.

🤣
Your precious USA spends way more on weapons than the rest of the world combined—so why? If they were truly that ideologically superior, why would they need to keep everyone else terrified just to maintain their grip?

But seriously, have you ever even stopped to wonder how they actually generate enough value to fund the most powerful, tech-heavy military in human history?

They absolutely crushed your socialist idols—first Hitler, then Stalin during the Cold War, which ended with a massive, stronger America and the total collapse of the USSR. That double defeat for socialism is clearly still a huge sore spot for you socialists, isn't it? ...Well, hey, what can I say? If it hurts, it hurts!😁

🍿

It’s simple: the petrodollar, global banking, and occupying half the planet. It comes down to constant warfare and exploiting the poor all over the globe...
Fortunately, as Marx proved, capitalism is fundamentally flawed and destined to collapse under its own weight. Let's just hope it doesn't take the rest of us down with it...
Grace Wood5 Grace Wood5 Active Member
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#15 ·
Sophia Moore52 said:none

It’s simple: the petrodollar, global banking, and occupying half the planet. It comes down to constant warfare and exploiting the poor all over the globe...
Fortunately, as Marx proved, capitalism is fundamentally flawed and destined to collapse under its own weight. Let's just hope it doesn't take the rest of us down with it...

🙏🙏🙏🤣🤣🤣🤣🙏🙏🙏

That’s the best joke I’ve read in a long time.
crimsonwolf20 crimsonwolf20 Active Member
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#16 ·
Sophia Moore52 said:none

It’s simple: the petrodollar, global banking, and occupying half the planet. It comes down to constant warfare and exploiting the poor all over the globe...
Fortunately, as Marx proved, capitalism is fundamentally flawed and destined to collapse under its own weight. Let's just hope it doesn't take the rest of us down with it...

🤣 🤣 🤣
Sophia Moore52 Sophia Moore52 Active Member
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#17 ·
Grace Wood5 said:🙏🙏🙏🤣🤣🤣🤣🙏🙏🙏

That’s the best joke I’ve read in a long time.

American universities actually offer entire courses on the art of joke-telling:

http://english.columbia.edu/marxism-...tation-culture
Grace Wood5 Grace Wood5 Active Member
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#18 ·
Sophia Moore52 said:American universities actually offer entire courses on the art of joke-telling:

http://english.columbia.edu/marxism-...tation-culture

So what? Researchers at MIT once conducted serious research on whether it’s easier to assault a girl wearing jeans or one in a miniskirt. After extensive and rigorous study, they concluded that a girl in a short skirt runs much faster than one in denim. This course sits right up there in terms of academic prestige alongside that groundbreaking study. 🤣
neonhound18 neonhound18 Active Member
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#19 ·
Sophia Moore52 said:none

It’s simple: the petrodollar, global banking, and occupying half the planet. It comes down to constant warfare and exploiting the poor all over the globe...
Fortunately, as Marx proved, capitalism is fundamentally flawed and destined to collapse under its own weight. Let's just hope it doesn't take the rest of us down with it...

We have quite the assembly of world-class macroeconomists here—Chomsky and Žižek, topped off with a little nod to Marx 🤣, which inevitably leads us straight into Engels, Stalin, Marshall, Mao, Kim Il Sung, and Pol Pot. I find myself wondering, somewhat perplexedly, how one even begins to derive such "brilliant" conclusions from such a collection? 😵
neonhound18 neonhound18 Active Member
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#20 ·
Grace Wood5 said:🙏🙏🙏🤣🤣🤣🤣🙏🙏🙏

That’s the best joke I’ve read in a long time.

If it weren't for the sheer tragedy of it all, one might actually find the nonsense being written here somewhat amusing.

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