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What if Donald Trump was President and George Santos was a Cabinet Secretary?

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Participants Bryan BoothSamuel KernMark Lopez8Grace Wood5crimsonwolf20Sophia Moore52Ryan Carter3neonhound18bluerider63Gregory Peterson2rowdytiger13Hannah White57rustywalker1Paul Thomas46Christian Wilson7Timothy Castillo6Keith Miller30Michelle Doyle61Sean Fox60Patrick Thomas29Harold Martin10goldenpuma84goldenstag15Jack Torres2
Hannah White57 Hannah White57 Member
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#41 ·
Ryan Carter3 said:Brilliant idea—let’s just try the exact same failed strategy we’ve been stuck with for the last twenty years, because clearly, nothing could possibly go wrong this time 😁

By the way, isn't the very definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over again while expecting a different result?

Incidentally, has anyone actually bothered to look at what these illiterates are even advocating for?

- Federal Reserve independence. Didn't the President recently suggest it was high time we moved in that direction? And aren't prominent economic experts like Warren Buffett actually pushing for it? But fine, let's just assume these people are completely clueless.

- The sanctity of the home. It’s literally written in the Constitution. Most American states protect against foreclosure if we're talking about a primary residence, the one place a person actually lives. But sure, these people are illiterate. I suppose if they were to ever pass a law like that, it would somehow jeopardize the entire financial stability of the nation 😁

Look, wanting something is one thing, but actually having the guts, the brains, and the actual means to make it happen? That's a whole different ballgame...

The old labor unions had plenty of grand visions and beautiful ideas too, and now? They're practically a footnote in history. How much did they fail by—a statistical error?
Ryan Carter3 Ryan Carter3 Member
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joined Jan 2018
#42 ·
Grace Wood5 said:🤦 Look, Prangijo, that’s just a wish list. None of those idiots over at the Department of Transportation have the slightest clue how to actually make it happen.
Saying "I want it" doesn't mean squat.

So, what, is it really that impossible to pass legislation ensuring a family can't be evicted from their own home? A home is the one piece of property where a family actually lives. How hard can it possibly be? Do they need someone to translate German law for them or something? For fuck's sake.

But sure, go ahead—it's much easier to mock kids being thrown out onto the streets from the comfort of an online forum.
Hannah White57 Hannah White57 Member
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joined Feb 2018
#43 ·
Ryan Carter3 said:So, what, is it really that impossible to pass legislation ensuring a family can't be evicted from their own home? A home is the one piece of property where a family actually lives. How hard can it possibly be? Do they need someone to translate German law for them or something? For fuck's sake.

But sure, go ahead—it's much easier to mock kids being thrown out onto the streets from the comfort of an online forum.

Man, you’re living in some fairy tale land with unicorns and magic just like Sinčić, thinking the real world works like a storybook.

At the end of the day, everyone is responsible for their own choices, especially in the US today.
Sure, there are people who get dealt a bad hand through no fault of their own, and society and the government definitely need to step up and help them. But let's be real—there are also plenty of folks who find themselves in a hole because they were just reckless and plain old stupid.
Ryan Carter3 Ryan Carter3 Member
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#44 ·
Of course everyone is held accountable for their actions. Or rather, almost everyone. Except, shall we say, certain politicians. And certain bankers. Everyone answers for what they do, except for a handful of politicians and nearly every single person at JPMorgan Chase. But for the most part, accountability exists, because how else could 🙂

The big banks face zero risk on their loans, politicians carry zero responsibility for their disastrous decisions, and private interests have simply bought off the rest, yet here I am, living in some kind of fairy tale land where everything is perfect and magical.
Sophia Moore52 Sophia Moore52 Active Member
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#45 ·
Hannah White57 said:Give me a break, people! We’re already stuck with total political amateurs running the show, and now you guys want to hand the keys over to someone like Martin Luther King Jr. or Donald Trump? It’s easy to sit around spinning these "what if" fairy tales about how things could be perfect, but let’s get real for a second. You actually have to ask: can these people even execute a plan? Do they have any actual expertise to drive real change?

Look, I totally get it. People are fed up and bitter with the big mainstream parties, but we shouldn't be so desperate that we just hand the entire country over to every random loudmouth off the street.

We’re in survival mode right now—this is not the time for wild experiments or playing games with our future.

Exactly. Right now, we need the proven track records of the Republican Party or the Democratic Party. They're the only ones who can pull us out of this mess we've found ourselves in... oops...
Hannah White57 Hannah White57 Member
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#46 ·
Sophia Moore52 said:Exactly. Right now, we need the proven track records of the Republican Party or the Democratic Party. They're the only ones who can pull us out of this mess we've found ourselves in... oops...

Whatever, fine! I guess I'll just side with you guys then. Let's just go out and vote for Sinčić, Kapović, or Gabrić. We'll check back in four years, and if things actually look up and America finally hits a massive winning streak, I’ll be the first one to step up and admit you all were right about those alternatives. No hard feelings.
Ryan Carter3 Ryan Carter3 Member
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#47 ·
Hannah White57 said:Whatever, fine! I guess I'll just side with you guys then. Let's just go out and vote for Sinčić, Kapović, or Gabrić. We'll check back in four years, and if things actually look up and America finally hits a massive winning streak, I’ll be the first one to step up and admit you all were right about those alternatives. No hard feelings.

You can't possibly support all three of them.

Kapović is a textbook Marxist, a professor who hasn't spent a single second actually working a blue-collar job, yet somehow he fancies himself an expert on the struggles of the working class better than any actual laborer ever could.

And Gabrić? Who even is he? You think he's like Jambo? The man is nothing more than a tycoon.😁
Hannah White57 Hannah White57 Member
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#48 ·
Ryan Carter3 said:You can't possibly support all three of them.

Kapović is a textbook Marxist, a professor who hasn't spent a single second actually working a blue-collar job, yet somehow he fancies himself an expert on the struggles of the working class better than any actual laborer ever could.

And Gabrić? Who even is he? You think he's like Jambo? The man is nothing more than a tycoon.😁

I mean the other Gabrić, the doctor. I pulled Kapović from a different thread because he keeps popping up like some "new face" on the political scene.

But hey, speaking of people who haven't spent any time on the clock... how many seconds have Donald Trump or Sinčić actually spent working a regular job?
Maybe they have, I don't know, so this isn't just me being dramatic—it's a genuine question. If anyone actually knows, let me know...
rustywalker1 rustywalker1 Active Member
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joined Jun 2011
#49 ·
Hannah White57 said:Give me a break, people! We’re already stuck with total political amateurs running the show, and now you guys want to hand the keys over to someone like Martin Luther King Jr. or Donald Trump? It’s easy to sit around spinning these "what if" fairy tales about how things could be perfect, but let’s get real for a second. You actually have to ask: can these people even execute a plan? Do they have any actual expertise to drive real change?

Look, I totally get it. People are fed up and bitter with the big mainstream parties, but we shouldn't be so desperate that we just hand the entire country over to every random loudmouth off the street.

We’re in survival mode right now—this is not the time for wild experiments or playing games with our future.

And how exactly are those fringe groups any worse than the "total political amateurs" currently in charge? Are they somehow even less qualified?
but surely we aren't quite desperate enough to hand the keys to the country to every random person off the street

It's five minutes to midnight; this isn't the time for reckless experiments.
except we already tried that a few times. the results speak for themselves.
Sophia Moore52 Sophia Moore52 Active Member
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joined Oct 2016
#50 ·
rustywalker1 said:And how exactly are those fringe groups any worse than the "total political amateurs" currently in charge? Are they somehow even less qualified?
but surely we aren't quite desperate enough to hand the keys to the country to every random person off the street

It's five minutes to midnight; this isn't the time for reckless experiments.
except we already tried that a few times. the results speak for themselves.

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Hannah White57 Hannah White57 Member
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#51 ·
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rustywalker1 said:And how exactly are those fringe groups any worse than the "total political amateurs" currently in charge? Are they somehow even less qualified?
but surely we aren't quite desperate enough to hand the keys to the country to every random person off the street

It's five minutes to midnight; this isn't the time for reckless experiments.
except we already tried that a few times. the results speak for themselves.

Honestly, I don't think there's much of a difference between them—it’s all pretty much the same stuff. Everyone loves to pretend they want America to be this massive superpower that can just flip the bird to the rest of the world and say, "We don't need anyone, we've got this," but let's be real for a second... reality hits a little different when you actually look at it. Then you've got guys popping up out of nowhere claiming we should just ditch NATO and the European Union entirely so we can go run errands in China instead. Like, come on.

Look, we need to get serious for a second. If anyone actually thinks the US economy is going to suddenly skyrocket just because we pull out of those trade associations, they’re being incredibly naive. Like, honestly, it sounds pretty delusional right off the bat, not to mention everything else that would go sideways.

America is in such a weird, schizophrenic headspace right now that people are just grabbing onto anything and everything out of pure desperation. Seriously, just look at the last five or six years. It’s been a total rollercoaster. First, you had the Labor Party shooting up in the polls, then some fringe candidate pulls an 8 or 9 percent before basically nuking his own career with all that constant bickering. Then suddenly a populist movement hits 18 or 19 percent, then there's this new radical group, and tomorrow it'll be someone else entirely. It's just one thing after another. We have over 150 different political parties floating around the US, which tells you everything you need to know. Isn't it a little suspicious that none of the established players actually shared the same ideas these new outsiders are pushing? Or am I just looking at a massive media hype machine designed to make them seem bigger than they actually are?
Paul Thomas46 Paul Thomas46 Active Member
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joined Jan 2018
#52 ·
Mark Lopez8 said:😁 Nice one, segregator. You're hitting the nail on the head with these posts. In any capitalist setup, the majority of people aren't doing well; it's just a handful of parasites exploiting the masses.
In America, this version of capitalism has turned out to be disastrous—just a rotten system by design. And once you add traitors in high places to the mix, you can't expect progress, just total decay. Most of my friends living abroad don't sit around praising capitalism either; that whole idea of a "better life in the West" is just a myth fed to people back home.

True enough—I've heard life is absolutely brutal in Scandinavia and the Benelux countries... 🙏

Honestly, those folks don't even realize how tough things actually are—maybe someone should go enlighten them... 🙏

(Now I'm just sitting here waiting for you to explain how life is supposedly "struggling" in places where over 60% of the population is solid middle class—by their own standards, anyway—and how everyone is being exploited and left with nothing...)
Sophia Moore52 Sophia Moore52 Active Member
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#53 ·
Paul Thomas46 said:True enough—I've heard life is absolutely brutal in Scandinavia and the Benelux countries... 🙏

Honestly, those folks don't even realize how tough things actually are—maybe someone should go enlighten them... 🙏

(Now I'm just sitting here waiting for you to explain how life is supposedly "struggling" in places where over 60% of the population is solid middle class—by their own standards, anyway—and how everyone is being exploited and left with nothing...)

Interesting approach... you listed all these nations with strong social safety nets, yet you completely ignored Somalia as the ultimate example of pure capitalism... tsk, tsk
Mark Lopez8 Mark Lopez8 Member
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#54 ·
Paul Thomas46 said:True enough—I've heard life is absolutely brutal in Scandinavia and the Benelux countries... 🙏

Honestly, those folks don't even realize how tough things actually are—maybe someone should go enlighten them... 🙏

(Now I'm just sitting here waiting for you to explain how life is supposedly "struggling" in places where over 60% of the population is solid middle class—by their own standards, anyway—and how everyone is being exploited and left with nothing...)

I have some of my parents' old friends who spent decades living in Sweden, but they always came back to visit us during the summer, even back in the old days. Let me tell you, those folks were more hungry than full in Sweden. Sure, they drove decent cars, but they were always baffled by how well people lived back in the old country. They used to stare at our breakfasts in total disbelief; they barely ate anything all day, whereas in our neck of the woods, summers meant family and friends everywhere. We'd have a table overflowing with everything—cured meats, cheeses, sausages, steak—just for breakfast. It was a feast!😁
I’ve traveled through Germany and seen what Germans eat for breakfast: a little biscuit with a bit of butter and then a mad dash to work. It’s the exact same story in the Netherlands; I have plenty of friends out West. Nobody—and I mean absolutely nobody—brags about how great life is over there. Everyone is drowning in debt and pinching pennies just to afford a vacation back home. Personally, I spend way more than the people visiting on holiday. So, go ahead, keep fantasizing about that "perfect life" in the Benelux or Scandinavia. In reality, maybe 10% of the people live well there, which is pretty much the same situation we have here.
Mark Lopez8 Mark Lopez8 Member
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#55 ·
Hannah White57 said:(No content provided to rewrite.)

Honestly, I don't think there's much of a difference between them—it’s all pretty much the same stuff. Everyone loves to pretend they want America to be this massive superpower that can just flip the bird to the rest of the world and say, "We don't need anyone, we've got this," but let's be real for a second... reality hits a little different when you actually look at it. Then you've got guys popping up out of nowhere claiming we should just ditch NATO and the European Union entirely so we can go run errands in China instead. Like, come on.

Look, we need to get serious for a second. If anyone actually thinks the US economy is going to suddenly skyrocket just because we pull out of those trade associations, they’re being incredibly naive. Like, honestly, it sounds pretty delusional right off the bat, not to mention everything else that would go sideways.

America is in such a weird, schizophrenic headspace right now that people are just grabbing onto anything and everything out of pure desperation. Seriously, just look at the last five or six years. It’s been a total rollercoaster. First, you had the Labor Party shooting up in the polls, then some fringe candidate pulls an 8 or 9 percent before basically nuking his own career with all that constant bickering. Then suddenly a populist movement hits 18 or 19 percent, then there's this new radical group, and tomorrow it'll be someone else entirely. It's just one thing after another. We have over 150 different political parties floating around the US, which tells you everything you need to know. Isn't it a little suspicious that none of the established players actually shared the same ideas these new outsiders are pushing? Or am I just looking at a massive media hype machine designed to make them seem bigger than they actually are?

Out of all those politicians who have been loitering around the American political scene for decades, this one newcomer is the only one who actually hit the nail on the head. Joining the European Union and NATO was a massive mistake; the US lost its sovereignty because of those associations. Second, the Republican Party and the Democratic Party are essentially two sides of the same coin—they're the ones who ruined this country. Third, and most importantly, corruption and crime are baked into every single government institution. I'm talking about the Department of Justice, the courts, and everything under them. It’s no wonder this whole place feels like a total circus destined for poverty and struggle when there isn't even anyone left to prosecute the criminals.👎
bluerider63 bluerider63 Regular
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#56 ·
Grace Wood5 said:Go ahead, tell me exactly who "the wall" is supposed to be saving and from what. 😒
I’m not accepting Alex Jones or Donald Trump as an answer. 😁

You want my take? It's just the whole damn capitalist machine 🕺
Ryan Carter3 Ryan Carter3 Member
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#57 ·
The media loves to run these constant critiques, claiming that during evictions, you're just exploiting other people's misery to score political points. Some even accuse you of driving up the actual costs of relocation for those unfortunate enough to be displaced. How do you respond to that?

- Honestly, most of it is just cheap shots. Evictions aren't primarily a legal issue; they are a political one. When we step in to defend people facing eviction, it’s because they are calling out to us for help. We have never once used force or gone against anyone's will to prevent them from moving or to manufacture some kind of hostage crisis. As for the claim that delaying an eviction increases their financial burden, that’s frankly absurd. Most of these individuals are already in such dire financial straits that an additional fine—if one even happens—won't make a dent in their situation. These people understand perfectly well that the only way to actually fix their problems is for someone to finally overhaul the cruel and unjust foreclosure laws currently on the books.
Sophia Moore52 Sophia Moore52 Active Member
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joined Oct 2016
#58 ·
Christian Wilson7 said:God, how embarrassing. There isn't a purer example of capitalism than Scandinavia. You won't find any countries with more economic freedom and less government intervention.

🤣

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/yk...syndrome-pt--1

Check out the start of this video. It’s funny seeing how almost all the big-name conservative talk show hosts try to scare Americans by claiming Democrats will bring in Swedish-style socialism... as if Americans don't actually know what socialism is, unlike you...
Christian Wilson7 Christian Wilson7 Newcomer
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#59 ·
Ryan Carter3 said:One really has to be a complete psychopath to find this situation amusing, doesn't one?

Oh, it’s just hilarious, isn't it? Just look at those kids who are going to end up sleeping on the streets tomorrow.

https://www.facebook.com/events/57...gular&source=1

Hahaha, and they're actually out there trying to save them? What absolute idiots.

Besides, they got exactly what they deserved after being so greedy and reckless with those massive loans.

🤮

At the end of the day, every one of those legal defenses just "freed" them from having to pay a few thousand dollars in eviction costs. They really did them a massive favor.

Sophia Moore52 said:Interesting approach... you listed all these nations with strong social safety nets, yet you completely ignored Somalia as the ultimate example of pure capitalism... tsk, tsk

God, how embarrassing for you. There isn't a purer example of capitalism than Scandinavia. You won't find any countries with more economic freedom and less government intervention.
Christian Wilson7 Christian Wilson7 Newcomer
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#60 ·
Sophia Moore52 said:🤣

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/yk...syndrome-pt--1

Check out the start of this video. It’s funny seeing how almost all the big-name conservative talk show hosts try to scare Americans by claiming Democrats will bring in Swedish-style socialism... as if Americans don't actually know what socialism is, unlike you...

To the Republicans, even Obama counts as a socialist. But honestly, their economic arguments don't hold water because the government footprint and bureaucracy there are kept to an absolute minimum—the state hardly ever interferes. They use tax revenue to fund robust social safety nets while letting a massive private sector drive everything. In those countries, huge private corporations are actually the backbone of the economy, not endless layers of government bureaucrats.

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