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Self-sabotaging in relationships: Why do we do it?

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Participants Austin Baker4Mark Nelsonwanderingangler13Kevin Nguyen3David Vaughn75casualharbor9Gerald Gomez43wearyeagle10Nicholas Bailey3Olivia Chavez3Melissa Sanchez8Andrew DoyleRobert Ortiz6
Austin Baker4 Austin Baker4 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
I am curious if anyone else here struggles with self-sabotage in their romantic relationships—and more importantly, whether you’ve actually managed to overcome it. Is it even possible? Does one simply need to find a partner with enough infinite patience to weather the storms we create, or is that just setting them up for disaster?
Or is professional help an absolute necessity?

I’m opening this discussion for purely personal reasons; I’ve begun to realize that I am actively sabotaging my own life. Every time things start heading in a positive direction, I find some convoluted way to wreck it. Then, predictably, I sit there complaining that nobody wants to be with me. 😁

I have a decent grasp on where these patterns originate, but what I lack is the roadmap for recovery. How does one actually heal from this kind of behavior?
Has anyone here dealt with this personally? Any insight would be appreciated.
Mark Nelson Mark Nelson Active Member
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#2 ·
So, are you one of those people who gets self-destructive when you're flying solo? And what does that actually look like for you, specifically? What kind of "self-destruction" are we talking about here?
wanderingangler13 wanderingangler13 Active Member
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#3 ·
If you think a BPD forum is going to be some kind of magic fix, you’re mistaken. It won't help much... you actually have to put in the work on yourself (even if you aren't currently doing that).
Kevin Nguyen3 Kevin Nguyen3 Regular
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#4 ·
I was actually going to dive deep into this earlier, but I reconsidered..

It is such a sensitive, frankly dangerous subject to poke at. You might end up uncovering things about your own psyche that were much better left buried deep in your subconscious—some truths are simply better left unknown, don't you think?

One doesn't necessarily need a diagnosed disorder to exhibit self-destructive tendencies.. but what, truly, is the root cause of it?!

The origins usually lie somewhere in one's childhood, though unfortunately, we can't know those specifics here. Perhaps a skilled psychoanalyst working along Freudian principles could shed some light... who knows?

But speaking generally—childhood neglect or abuse, even sexual abuse, physical or psychological maltreatment, toxic dynamics between parents or within the parent-child relationship itself, early trauma or separation from caregivers, feeling misunderstood by peers or society, poor social conditions... there are just so many factors involved...

And all of this can spiral into self-destruction through means like self-harm, substance abuse, and eventually leading to depression, anxiety, low self-esteem, and profound insecurity.

Quite heavy stakes, isn't it?...

Broadly speaking, it functions as a form of self-punishment. That's really it... an attempt to regulate certain emotional hardships.

You start believing you are incapable of being in a relationship (which isn't true), or that you don't deserve love (which is a second falsehood)..

Some people dismiss it as mere "attention-seeking," but that is nothing more than a shallow prejudice.

All these threads can weave together into alienation, which can then lead toward narcissism—and now we are entering the realm of clinical psychiatry.

There is certainly more to discuss, but there are ways to find help... if you are interested, of course.😉
Austin Baker4 Austin Baker4 NewcomerOP
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#5 ·
I have no idea what "borderline" actually entails, but I don't think that's me.

As for being self-destructive—well, it’s essentially when you go out of your way to do something you know will cause friction, just to drive someone away. You might turn crude, or rude, or start playing mind games and throwing insults; things you would absolutely NEVER do under normal circumstances, but you do them simply to ensure that person eventually walks out on you... it's a bit psycho, if I'm being honest. 🙂 I can instantly conjure up a hundred different reasons why a relationship might fail, and then I preemptively sabotage it by making myself look utterly repulsive to them... if you catch my drift...

I wasn't really conscious of this pattern before. It was always easy to claim "it's always the other person's fault," and that's without even mentioning the endless parade of unavailable guys—married men, emotionally distant types, or just people who were completely out of reach. 62 miles Most of them were just obsessions because, deep down, they were never actually viable partners to begin with.

Is there some kind of elegant way to resolve this? I have a massive fear of commitment. In fact, I can't even bring myself to be a casual fling because the terror of messing things up is just too overwhelming. 🙂

Am I considered self-destructive when I'm single? Aside from my cigarette habit, of course. Or does that count?
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#6 ·
Look, I'm guessing you're just terrified of the actual weight that comes with a real relationship—you know, the commitment part—and you're so scared of getting burned that you're subconsciously pushing everyone away before they can even get close enough to hurt you
Austin Baker4 Austin Baker4 NewcomerOP
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#7 ·
Yes, I find myself fearing the weight of responsibility that comes with a committed relationship. It is a well-defined anxiety.
Furthermore, there is this persistent dread that I might inadvertently cause harm to my partner.

Is this something that can actually be resolved? 🙂
casualharbor9 casualharbor9 Active Member
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#8 ·
Kevin Nguyen3 said:I was actually going to dive deep into this earlier, but I reconsidered..

It is such a sensitive, frankly dangerous subject to poke at. You might end up uncovering things about your own psyche that were much better left buried deep in your subconscious—some truths are simply better left unknown, don't you think?

One doesn't necessarily need a diagnosed disorder to exhibit self-destructive tendencies.. but what, truly, is the root cause of it?!

The origins usually lie somewhere in one's childhood, though unfortunately, we can't know those specifics here. Perhaps a skilled psychoanalyst working along Freudian principles could shed some light... who knows?

But speaking generally—childhood neglect or abuse, even sexual abuse, physical or psychological maltreatment, toxic dynamics between parents or within the parent-child relationship itself, early trauma or separation from caregivers, feeling misunderstood by peers or society, poor social conditions... there are just so many factors involved...

And all of this can spiral into self-destruction through means like self-harm, substance abuse, and eventually leading to depression, anxiety, low self-esteem, and profound insecurity.

Quite heavy stakes, isn't it?...

Broadly speaking, it functions as a form of self-punishment. That's really it... an attempt to regulate certain emotional hardships.

You start believing you are incapable of being in a relationship (which isn't true), or that you don't deserve love (which is a second falsehood)..

Some people dismiss it as mere "attention-seeking," but that is nothing more than a shallow prejudice.

All these threads can weave together into alienation, which can then lead toward narcissism—and now we are entering the realm of clinical psychiatry.

There is certainly more to discuss, but there are ways to find help... if you are interested, of course.😉

Personally, I'm genuinely interested.
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#9 ·
Austin Baker4 said:Yes, I find myself fearing the weight of responsibility that comes with a committed relationship. It is a well-defined anxiety.
Furthermore, there is this persistent dread that I might inadvertently cause harm to my partner.

Is this something that can actually be resolved? 🙂

Look, anything playing tricks on your head can be worked through.

Go talk to a pro. For us to even begin to help you here, we'd need a massive deep dive into your entire life story, and let's face it, dumping all that baggage onto a random web forum is... awkward. If you're short on cash, just hit up your primary care doctor and have them write you a referral for psychotherapy.
Austin Baker4 Austin Baker4 NewcomerOP
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#10 ·
Everything Bluzara wrote is spot on. I mean, I get it—I really do. It’s all clear to me. But what I’m actually wondering is how I can be useful here. Why are you specifically targeting a psychoanalyst instead of some other branch of therapy? With those types, the process feels like it drags on forever and the bills just keep piling up up indefinitely.🙂Is there anything a bit more efficient?🙂)
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#11 ·
Austin Baker4 said:Everything Bluzara wrote is spot on. I mean, I get it—I really do. It’s all clear to me. But what I’m actually wondering is how I can be useful here. Why are you specifically targeting a psychoanalyst instead of some other branch of therapy? With those types, the process feels like it drags on forever and the bills just keep piling up up indefinitely.🙂Is there anything a bit more efficient?🙂)

Look, psychoanalysis is just one specific flavor of psychotherapy.

Personally, I hit up this local community health clinic run by a Gestalt psychiatrist, and honestly, the guy is solid.👍
Austin Baker4 Austin Baker4 NewcomerOP
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#12 ·
If anyone happens to know a solid psychotherapist in the Chicago area who specializes in this particular issue, please let me know!🙂
Gerald Gomez43 Gerald Gomez43 Member
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#13 ·
Hello, everyone.
I went to start a new thread about interpersonal dynamics—friendships, romance, the whole spectrum—only to realize this one already exists.
I’m really looking for some real-world perspectives from others.
To be blunt, due to a mix of past traumas and my own inherent nature—I’d describe myself as quite guarded and emotionally distant—I have this recurring impulse to dismantle my relationships once they settle in. It’s a tendency toward self-sabotage, likely driven by a repressed fear of being hurt again. I find myself sabotaging both friendships and romantic connections constantly. This isn't the kind of sabotage where I act out to torment someone else or play the victim; rather, I tend to retreat into myself, pull away, and succumb to this nagging feeling that I simply don't deserve the people in my life. Eventually, the connection withers under that distance and just snaps. Naturally, most people don't have the patience for that kind of emotional withdrawal, so my inner circle has become quite small over the years. If anyone here has dealt with this and found a way through it, I’d love to hear your thoughts. And if you're still struggling with it, please feel free to share; I'd just like to know if I'm alone in this. I recognize the root cause, and while I've considered seeking psychotherapy, I wanted to see if there is any specific literature out there or if people can just share their experiences first.
If anyone feels too uncomfortable posting publicly, feel free to send me a private message.
wearyeagle10 wearyeagle10 Member
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#14 ·
Austin Baker4 said:Yes, I find myself fearing the weight of responsibility that comes with a committed relationship. It is a well-defined anxiety.
Furthermore, there is this persistent dread that I might inadvertently cause harm to my partner.

Is this something that can actually be resolved? 🙂

That’s not something you "fix" because it isn't a disease. It’s just normal for an intelligent person to actually have empathy and respect for another living being, and to realize there are responsibilities involved when you make a choice like that.

It’s probably not what you think it is, either. Maybe you’re just feeling unfulfilled in some other area of your life and you're projecting that frustration onto the idea of a relationship—only you can figure out if that's the case.

Besides, if someone doesn't want to deal with you for whatever reason, well, nobody has any patience left in this world these days.
So don't go tripping yourself up thinking you're "broken"...

Just look inward, have an honest conversation with yourself, and leave it at that.

Love yourself; you don't need anyone else to do it for you. If it rains, grab an umbrella, go for a walk, spin it around, and sing. There's your therapy. If you catch my drift.
Gerald Gomez43 Gerald Gomez43 Member
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#15 ·
wearyeagle10 said:That’s not something you "fix" because it isn't a disease. It’s just normal for an intelligent person to actually have empathy and respect for another living being, and to realize there are responsibilities involved when you make a choice like that.

It’s probably not what you think it is, either. Maybe you’re just feeling unfulfilled in some other area of your life and you're projecting that frustration onto the idea of a relationship—only you can figure out if that's the case.

Besides, if someone doesn't want to deal with you for whatever reason, well, nobody has any patience left in this world these days.
So don't go tripping yourself up thinking you're "broken"...

Just look inward, have an honest conversation with yourself, and leave it at that.

Love yourself; you don't need anyone else to do it for you. If it rains, grab an umbrella, go for a walk, spin it around, and sing. There's your therapy. If you catch my drift.

I agree that this is important, but when you've spent years enduring psychological and verbal abuse while witnessing nothing but toxic human dynamics, pulling yourself out of the mud is a massive undertaking. Don't get me wrong, I know how much effort goes into it, but let's be honest: it's an uphill battle.
wearyeagle10 wearyeagle10 Member
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#16 ·
Gerald Gomez43 said:I agree that this is important, but when you've spent years enduring psychological and verbal abuse while witnessing nothing but toxic human dynamics, pulling yourself out of the mud is a massive undertaking. Don't get me wrong, I know how much effort goes into it, but let's be honest: it's an uphill battle.

Just taking small steps every day. At the end of the day, being healthy is what counts.

That’s basically my playbook too, just different versions of what you laid out in post #13.

Honestly, I don't even bother analyzing it anymore. Maybe it's just written in the stars or something—that you're meant to be a loner, a bit eccentric, kind of torn up, and like you don't quite fit anywhere. You aren't alone in feeling this way, though; there are plenty of people in the same boat. It’s like this constant tug-of-war: you want to hang out, but then you don't; you want a relationship, but then you don't; you want to be happy, but then you don't; you want friends, but then you don't; you want to talk to someone, then you don't; you try to socialize, but then you just crash and burn, so you pull back again, and it just loops...
I'm oversimplifying here because it's never actually that simple.
It's just a cycle of "maybe, maybe not, maybe, nothing happens, then everything falls apart, then nothing, then something, then it all feels pointless." And doing any of that takes a ton of energy and willpower and stuff...

And so on...

Whatever, it's all garbage. I didn't explain that great, but whatever, doesn't matter...
Nicholas Bailey3 Nicholas Bailey3 Active Member
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#17 ·
Gerald Gomez43 said:I agree that this is important, but when you've spent years enduring psychological and verbal abuse while witnessing nothing but toxic human dynamics, pulling yourself out of the mud is a massive undertaking. Don't get me wrong, I know how much effort goes into it, but let's be honest: it's an uphill battle.

Self-confidence. You aren't going anywhere until you're fully standing on your own two feet and actually learning how to function independently. There is no easy way out.
Olivia Chavez3 Olivia Chavez3 Newcomer
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#18 ·
Gerald Gomez43 said:Hello, everyone.
I went to start a new thread about interpersonal dynamics—friendships, romance, the whole spectrum—only to realize this one already exists.
I’m really looking for some real-world perspectives from others.
To be blunt, due to a mix of past traumas and my own inherent nature—I’d describe myself as quite guarded and emotionally distant—I have this recurring impulse to dismantle my relationships once they settle in. It’s a tendency toward self-sabotage, likely driven by a repressed fear of being hurt again. I find myself sabotaging both friendships and romantic connections constantly. This isn't the kind of sabotage where I act out to torment someone else or play the victim; rather, I tend to retreat into myself, pull away, and succumb to this nagging feeling that I simply don't deserve the people in my life. Eventually, the connection withers under that distance and just snaps. Naturally, most people don't have the patience for that kind of emotional withdrawal, so my inner circle has become quite small over the years. If anyone here has dealt with this and found a way through it, I’d love to hear your thoughts. And if you're still struggling with it, please feel free to share; I'd just like to know if I'm alone in this. I recognize the root cause, and while I've considered seeking psychotherapy, I wanted to see if there is any specific literature out there or if people can just share their experiences first.
If anyone feels too uncomfortable posting publicly, feel free to send me a private message.

Honestly, just Google "disorganized attachment in adults." There’s a ton of stuff out there—articles, deep dives, plenty of YouTube videos.
The truth is, if the damage was done during childhood, you can't really "fix" it in the traditional sense—it's just part of your wiring now. But, you can get better at catching yourself in the act. Once you understand the pattern, you can hit the brakes and go, "Okay, there I go again," before you end up sabotaging everything. At the end of the day, just being hyper-aware of your own headspaces and how you react is probably the best tool you've got.
Melissa Sanchez8 Melissa Sanchez8 Active Member
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#19 ·
Gerald Gomez43 said:Hello, everyone.
I went to start a new thread about interpersonal dynamics—friendships, romance, the whole spectrum—only to realize this one already exists.
I’m really looking for some real-world perspectives from others.
To be blunt, due to a mix of past traumas and my own inherent nature—I’d describe myself as quite guarded and emotionally distant—I have this recurring impulse to dismantle my relationships once they settle in. It’s a tendency toward self-sabotage, likely driven by a repressed fear of being hurt again. I find myself sabotaging both friendships and romantic connections constantly. This isn't the kind of sabotage where I act out to torment someone else or play the victim; rather, I tend to retreat into myself, pull away, and succumb to this nagging feeling that I simply don't deserve the people in my life. Eventually, the connection withers under that distance and just snaps. Naturally, most people don't have the patience for that kind of emotional withdrawal, so my inner circle has become quite small over the years. If anyone here has dealt with this and found a way through it, I’d love to hear your thoughts. And if you're still struggling with it, please feel free to share; I'd just like to know if I'm alone in this. I recognize the root cause, and while I've considered seeking psychotherapy, I wanted to see if there is any specific literature out there or if people can just share their experiences first.
If anyone feels too uncomfortable posting publicly, feel free to send me a private message.

You've got to break those old habits. And change how you see yourself, too. Step out of your routine and get out of your comfort zone. Just... do things differently. Confidence matters, and you build it by facing your fears head-on. Try being more open. Stop putting everyone else on a pedestal above you. We’re all just human, flaws and all. You’ve got your struggles, and they’ve got theirs.
Honestly, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Accept the parts of yourself you can't—or shouldn't—change, and focus on evolving the rest toward the life you actually want to live.
Don't let the bad stuff from your past hold you hostage. Don't let it define who you are.

It's tough at first, and there will be moments where you just want to quit... but stay persistent.
Andrew Doyle Andrew Doyle Regular
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#20 ·
Austin Baker4 said:I am curious if anyone else here struggles with self-sabotage in their romantic relationships—and more importantly, whether you’ve actually managed to overcome it. Is it even possible? Does one simply need to find a partner with enough infinite patience to weather the storms we create, or is that just setting them up for disaster?
Or is professional help an absolute necessity?

I’m opening this discussion for purely personal reasons; I’ve begun to realize that I am actively sabotaging my own life. Every time things start heading in a positive direction, I find some convoluted way to wreck it. Then, predictably, I sit there complaining that nobody wants to be with me. 😁

I have a decent grasp on where these patterns originate, but what I lack is the roadmap for recovery. How does one actually heal from this kind of behavior?
Has anyone here dealt with this personally? Any insight would be appreciated.

That sounds exactly like me! 👋

I’ve had this self-destructive streak for as long as I can remember, and it hasn't just been limited to my love life; it has bled into almost every area of my existence.
Regarding relationships, I sabotaged everything. I would be incredibly cold and emotionally distant, and the more solid the relationship became—the more the other person wanted to commit—the harder I pushed them away.
It doesn't take a genius to connect the dots and realize that something is fundamentally broken within yourself.
For me, this was an intense struggle until I hit my early twenties, at which point I decided to flip the script. My attempt at changing wasn't perfect, but I did start to evolve in my relationships. That shift happened once I finally confronted the problem head-on and developed a genuine desire to change my trajectory. It wasn't an easy process; there were plenty of setbacks and moments where I fell right back into old habits. Honestly, if I had started intensive psychotherapy sooner—the kind of high-quality therapy I’m in now—things would have stabilized much earlier in my life.
How do you fix it? Psychotherapy is going to be your best bet.

Is finding the "right" person important? Absolutely. But let’s be clear: no one is obligated to spend their entire life acting as a punching bag for your instability (unless they themselves have deep-seated issues that make them crave a martyr role). A healthy individual will set firm boundaries against that kind of behavior.

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