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The origins of conspiracy theories

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Peter Phillips32 Peter Phillips32 Active Member
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#21 ·
mistygull16 said:I don't know, man, but I heard somewhere that the British Queen actually leases land to Americans... like, supposedly part of the US is her personal property 🤷

All this talk about secret groups and brotherhoods... I mean, I can't really wrap my head around it until you drop some actual links to decent explanations proving these things even exist. You know, like something from The New York Times or maybe an American version of Wikipedia that confirms these groups are real and actually says something meaningful about how they operate.



The idea that presidents only come from a handful of specific families is just plain wrong. It’s pretty easy to figure out if that’s true or not once you actually show where you're getting that info.

It's one Bush after another. Then there's Bill Clinton and his wife, then Obama wasp Quote.

And milk and honey would flow through the veins of those countries.

Man, that's a pretty harsh way to put it—basically trying to condemn wealthy people just because they have money.

They make billions every single day off the sweat of others.

By definition, the whole point of a company is to satisfy its owners, or the shareholders if it's that kind of legal entity.

So, just a quick question: why shouldn't companies like Microsoft and Apple be allowed to hold cash reserves of, say, 243 billion dollars (yeah, $243,000,000,000), which is what was recorded back in 2013? Since you're against that kind of wealth hoarding, surely you can explain why it's bad for two companies—or any others—to pile up that much cash? And, honestly, how else could that money be better used?

If you were the CEO of some sneaker company, and the cost to make a pair in your home country was, let's say, $83, but in another country it was $33.

Setting labor prices... that's basically the most racist thing you can do these days.



These guys are the ones deciding who stays broke forever.

Is it actually cheaper to move production overseas or not? If you're aiming for the middle class, you can't really price a pair of sneakers higher than, say, $217. You've got to cover wages, machine maintenance, staff, raw materials... there's just a ton of overhead eating into the profit from those sales. Plus, whatever you spent on this season has to be accounted for next season if the company wants to stay afloat. Long-term business planning is everything.

So, the real question is: if using cheaper labor and resources from abroad results in a better, more affordable product, should a CEO—acting in the best interest of the company and its customers—go for those savings? Or should they stick to much pricier domestic workers and materials just because they happen to be local?

Alright, we're talking economics now, not spirituality.
By the way, reptilians aren't the answer here.

Not only are you picturing some kind of utopia where every nation is equally wealthy, but would Germans just hand over their entire auto industry? I don't see how that even makes sense as a question.

You can't seriously claim people in poverty aren't working.
Reptilians aren't the reason why America struggles with being a second-tier economy plagued by messy laws and red tape. We inherited this mess, and it’s on us to fix it.

The only way to change things is through more pro bono involvement from American citizens who want to actually improve their own society. We could learn a thing or two from the US, where tons of professionals offer their expertise for free to help improve the social and political landscape.

So, is the real issue whether it's a problem to work for free to improve society—by making laws clearer and cutting through bureaucracy—or is it just easier to blame reptilians and a handful of powerful white guys who supposedly won't let you participate democratically in your own community?

Based on what you wrote, you're basically equating "extortion" with a company simply charging for its products.

Africans were bailed out with loans, and now they're just deeper in debt. 🤷

Extortion is extortion!

When you get into spirituality, you hear all these different names for deities and whatnot, but honestly, there’s nothing more than just words being used as proof of validity in this modern era where we have such a massive, diverse range of media outlets constantly broadcasting these events more clearly than ever before.

Yeah, sure, why don't you just give me a quick summary of what's actually being said in that video? I haven't got all day to spend scrolling through forums.
It’s one after another. Clinton and now his wife, Barack Obama.

I’ll count the first four, but I am not buying this smear campaign against Barack Obama. That would be, 4 out of 44, or basically
9%
of presidents being closely linked to it.

And really, why should anyone find that strange in this crazy modern age?
They make billions a day off people's sweat and blood.

Okay, look, that’s just your verbal report right there, but where is the actual written financial analysis of the company's cash flow? You know, the hard data.

How am I supposed to verify your story?
Isn't that the whole point of these shows coming out of that so-called "Golden Age" of dramatic, mid-tier programming—those typical TV series?
Setting labor prices is one of the most racist things happening today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7Ga6NhGDd8

These people decide who stays poor for the rest of their lives.

Linking labor costs to racism is just sensationalist news reporting. When they crank up the tension like that, they're intentionally distracting from the actual substance of the message: the data.

Just like with the last video, can you please just write a brief summary of what’s actually in there, you know, more clearly?
Now we're talking about economics, not spirituality anymore.

Well, yeah, because before this, you were trying to manage the entire global economy using spirituality.
You can't just claim people in poverty aren't working hard.
I’m with you there—proving a negative is basically impossible.
They were trying to bail out African Americans with loans, and now they're just drowning in even more debt. 🤷

Look, I hear all kinds of wild stories too, so don't sweat it. Honestly, the other day I was spiraling down some rabbit hole watching this video report about Hobbit-led hostile takeovers of entire mountains filled with dwarven gold coins and various precious gems, or whatever else they had lying around, plus some epic saga about defeating a dragon.

We've got footage of dragons, right? And let's just leave Bigfoot to the younger generations; we don't need to go hunting for him anymore. Every era needs its own legendary hunts, so let them have their fun. Once we finally achieve our perfect utopia, every country will be equally wealthy. : flows a stream of milk and honey :

Check out this link where they lay out the "truth" about the victory—they call it interplanetary or whatever, at least until someone else takes it down— link [youtube].
A racket is a racket!

In those Hollywood action movies, that cliché line at the end of a big speech always serves as the ultimate rallying cry to get the mission started.
Grace Ramos Grace Ramos Member
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#22 ·
Kate Howard63 said:I am of the firm belief that conspiracies exist, yet I maintain a healthy skepticism toward conspiracy theorists.

What exactly constitutes a conspiracy in the eyes of every lowlife on this internet forum?

Furthermore, one must wonder where these theorists obtain their information if they are not actual insiders.

The moment two people reach an agreement without a third party's knowledge, you have a conspiracy. It is a fundamentally human behavior. We all engage in it daily. For instance, I once had a friend who was incredibly inert and loath to leave his house, let alone leave his hometown. To persuade him to join our group on a trip, I orchestrated a small conspiracy with the rest of my friends. We would mention the trip casually at first, then gradually increase the frequency of our mentions until we had successfully planted the idea in his mind; ultimately, he joined us.

People form alliances to cheer for sports teams, to organize pigeon races, or to collect trading cards; similarly, some unite specifically to acquire wealth, influence, and dominance over the masses. There is nothing unusual about such arrangements.

Allow me to provide an example of a conspiracy. Here in New York City, where I currently reside, a major police operation took place about a decade after the Prime Minister Zoran Đinđić was assassinated. Two primary criminals accused of the murder were a certain 'godfather' and an 'Albanian.' They sat at the very pinnacle of that organization, while a third figure known as 'Bagzi' was also involved. While the police managed to apprehend those two, Bagzi escaped, and his whereabouts remain unknown even to his associates within that local crime syndicate. In an attempt to sow discord among the syndicate members, the police leaked a story to the press claiming that Bagzi had turned informant and led them to the godfather and the Albanian. This was entirely fabricated—a true conspiracy. Yet, an average New Yorker could be sipping coffee and reading the newspaper that morning, completely unaware that they were consuming falsehoods and that Bagzi was a fugitive rather than a police asset.

A third example, occurring on a much grander scale, involves March 27, 1941. We were all taught in school how the various nations and ethnic groups of the USA marched through the streets of New York City shouting, "Better war than a pact!" However, not a single history teacher ever mentioned that behind the entire coup and the demonstrations stood the Britons and their intelligence services.

Thus, conspiracies exist at every level, from the most trivial to the most profound; the issue is that the average person only learns of them once everything is already finalized, if they learn of them at all.

And naturally, there exists an entire psychopathology regarding followers of conspiracy theories, which has evolved into a movement today that attracts the naive and often the mentally unstable.

And by then, there’s nothing left to be done about it.
mistygull16 mistygull16 Active MemberOP
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#23 ·
Peter Phillips32 said:When you get into spirituality, you hear all these different names for deities and whatnot, but honestly, there’s nothing more than just words being used as proof of validity in this modern era where we have such a massive, diverse range of media outlets constantly broadcasting these events more clearly than ever before.

Yeah, sure, why don't you just give me a quick summary of what's actually being said in that video? I haven't got all day to spend scrolling through forums.
It’s one after another. Clinton and now his wife, Barack Obama.

I’ll count the first four, but I am not buying this smear campaign against Barack Obama. That would be, 4 out of 44, or basically
9%
of presidents being closely linked to it.

And really, why should anyone find that strange in this crazy modern age?
They make billions a day off people's sweat and blood.

Okay, look, that’s just your verbal report right there, but where is the actual written financial analysis of the company's cash flow? You know, the hard data.

How am I supposed to verify your story?
Isn't that the whole point of these shows coming out of that so-called "Golden Age" of dramatic, mid-tier programming—those typical TV series?
Setting labor prices is one of the most racist things happening today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7Ga6NhGDd8

These people decide who stays poor for the rest of their lives.

Linking labor costs to racism is just sensationalist news reporting. When they crank up the tension like that, they're intentionally distracting from the actual substance of the message: the data.

Just like with the last video, can you please just write a brief summary of what’s actually in there, you know, more clearly?
Now we're talking about economics, not spirituality anymore.

Well, yeah, because before this, you were trying to manage the entire global economy using spirituality.
You can't just claim people in poverty aren't working hard.
I’m with you there—proving a negative is basically impossible.
They were trying to bail out African Americans with loans, and now they're just drowning in even more debt. 🤷

Look, I hear all kinds of wild stories too, so don't sweat it. Honestly, the other day I was spiraling down some rabbit hole watching this video report about Hobbit-led hostile takeovers of entire mountains filled with dwarven gold coins and various precious gems, or whatever else they had lying around, plus some epic saga about defeating a dragon.

We've got footage of dragons, right? And let's just leave Bigfoot to the younger generations; we don't need to go hunting for him anymore. Every era needs its own legendary hunts, so let them have their fun. Once we finally achieve our perfect utopia, every country will be equally wealthy. : flows a stream of milk and honey :

Check out this link where they lay out the "truth" about the victory—they call it interplanetary or whatever, at least until someone else takes it down— link [youtube].
A racket is a racket!

In those Hollywood action movies, that cliché line at the end of a big speech always serves as the ultimate rallying cry to get the mission started.

Like I said, I believe these billionaires today are crafting policies that let them rake in extra profit through manufactured crises.

It's sort of like if I were exploiting people, and someone accused me of it, and I defended myself by saying, "Well, I'm also turning into a crocodile, then a flying dog..." and just turn the whole thing into a joke so I can keep doing what I'm doing.

So, I'd actually like to hear more arguments from the conspiracy theorists, because those theories aren't really clear to me as to whether they're true or just partially true.
Ryan Wilson2 Ryan Wilson2 Regular
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#24 ·
I’ve always been one to entertain conspiracy theories... actually, let me rephrase that: I used to believe they were just theories until it became painfully obvious that much of it is reality. Take the surveillance state, the way massive corporations exert shadow control over the globe, the constant camera presence tracking our every move—everything Edward Snowden brought to light...🙂

But what really fascinates me now is contemplating the underlying logic behind the hoarding of wealth by individuals who possess far more capital than they could ever hope to spend in several lifetimes.

What is the purpose behind this seemingly "pointless" accumulation? Why is the ultimate objective in most nations to maintain total control over every single citizen? What drives this relentless desire to impoverish the masses and herd us into a corner?

As absurd as the idea of Aliens or reptilian entities feeding off our collective fear (and who knows what else) might sound, it remains a strangely compelling framework for pondering these questions.

If anyone out there possesses a more logical explanation for my doubts, please, I am all ears. 😁
Grace Ramos Grace Ramos Member
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#25 ·
mistygull16 said:Like I said, I believe these billionaires today are crafting policies that let them rake in extra profit through manufactured crises.

It's sort of like if I were exploiting people, and someone accused me of it, and I defended myself by saying, "Well, I'm also turning into a crocodile, then a flying dog..." and just turn the whole thing into a joke so I can keep doing what I'm doing.

So, I'd actually like to hear more arguments from the conspiracy theorists, because those theories aren't really clear to me as to whether they're true or just partially true.

If you want to actually "get" a conspiracy theory, you have to dive in headfirst. You need to commit—maybe reject the idea of "good guys" vs. "bad guys" for a bit, read up extensively on the subject, and essentially go through a full mental cycle. Once you loop back to where you started, things start making a lot more sense.

But if you aren't interested in doing that work, then just look at it this way: every crisis or major event happens for a multitude of reasons. Some of those reasons only become obvious years later. In my opinion, the whole game is designed to control us from one side while trying to wake us up from the other.
mistygull16 mistygull16 Active MemberOP
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#26 ·
Ryan Wilson2 said:I’ve always been one to entertain conspiracy theories... actually, let me rephrase that: I used to believe they were just theories until it became painfully obvious that much of it is reality. Take the surveillance state, the way massive corporations exert shadow control over the globe, the constant camera presence tracking our every move—everything Edward Snowden brought to light...🙂

But what really fascinates me now is contemplating the underlying logic behind the hoarding of wealth by individuals who possess far more capital than they could ever hope to spend in several lifetimes.

What is the purpose behind this seemingly "pointless" accumulation? Why is the ultimate objective in most nations to maintain total control over every single citizen? What drives this relentless desire to impoverish the masses and herd us into a corner?

As absurd as the idea of Aliens or reptilian entities feeding off our collective fear (and who knows what else) might sound, it remains a strangely compelling framework for pondering these questions.

If anyone out there possesses a more logical explanation for my doubts, please, I am all ears. 😁

With greed, there's really no such thing as "enough." Once you start, you can't stop.
mistygull16 mistygull16 Active MemberOP
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#27 ·
Grace Ramos said:If you want to actually "get" a conspiracy theory, you have to dive in headfirst. You need to commit—maybe reject the idea of "good guys" vs. "bad guys" for a bit, read up extensively on the subject, and essentially go through a full mental cycle. Once you loop back to where you started, things start making a lot more sense.

But if you aren't interested in doing that work, then just look at it this way: every crisis or major event happens for a multitude of reasons. Some of those reasons only become obvious years later. In my opinion, the whole game is designed to control us from one side while trying to wake us up from the other.

The first thing that just doesn't sit right with me is the fact that there've been two different kinds of beings living right alongside us for thousands of years.

It’s funny how you look at it... both the Bible and the Gita basically describe the same old cosmic brawl. It's all that conspiracy theory stuff—beings of light going head-to-head against reptiles or whatever. Same story, different book.

So, some people are out there saying the big shift has already kicked in—like, it was supposed to happen back in 2012 or whatever. But honestly? It feels like it all just comes down to us at this point. It’s on us.

I'm not buying it, but I'm not calling bullshit either. 🤷
Amanda Vaughn3 Amanda Vaughn3 Member
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#28 ·
crimsonhawk47 said:The whole lizard people theory is just plain absurd, I guess.

Not necessarily.
Reptilians are just a way to personify evil—an allegory, really...
When people claim the British Queen was a reptile,
they're actually talking about her bloodline,
implying her lineage has a history of dark deeds...

Edward Snowden and Julian Assange are proof enough
that many conspiracy theories aren't delusions, they're just facts waiting to surface.

Back in the early 90s, people were claiming Franjo Harmon was just there to loot and sell off America,
while others said, "Don't be paranoid,"
but looking back, it wasn't a theory—it was reality.

Look at the Ankica Lepej case; just think about it.

The fact that 20 families control 75% of America's capital
isn't a conspiracy theory—it's just a sad reality.
The rest of us are left with peanuts,
while our intelligence agencies tell us everything is perfectly fine.
Grace Ramos Grace Ramos Member
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#29 ·
mistygull16 said:The first thing that just doesn't sit right with me is the fact that there've been two different kinds of beings living right alongside us for thousands of years.

It’s funny how you look at it... both the Bible and the Gita basically describe the same old cosmic brawl. It's all that conspiracy theory stuff—beings of light going head-to-head against reptiles or whatever. Same story, different book.

So, some people are out there saying the big shift has already kicked in—like, it was supposed to happen back in 2012 or whatever. But honestly? It feels like it all just comes down to us at this point. It’s on us.

I'm not buying it, but I'm not calling bullshit either. 🤷

It’s all light and then suddenly, it's alligators. 😁 We’re basically just fighting two sides of the same coin, battling ourselves more than anything else. There are plenty of people out there in the world who act exactly like reptiles when you look at their behavior and what they actually do. We shouldn't be waiting around for some magical being of light to swoop in and save us—that's not how this works. It's on us to fix things.

Real transformation starts at the individual level. Once everyone actually manages to get their own act together, the global shift will follow naturally. We’re living in the age of information now—there's no excuse not to know better. 🙂
Ryan Wilson2 Ryan Wilson2 Regular
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#30 ·
mistygull16 said:With greed, there's really no such thing as "enough." Once you start, you can't stop.

I find myself entirely dissatisfied with 😁
's response.
Every single human need, in theory, can be met 🙂
.
hollowpuma762 hollowpuma762 Active Member
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#31 ·
Peter : "The boss is a Goal"
Car > Isaac: "The boss is both a Goal and a reptile"
Car > Thomas wearing aluminum foil on his head: "The boss is a Goal, a reptile, AND he shapeshifts—I saw it with my own eyes"

Mark, Derek, Gordon: "Look, Peter and the rest of these guys have completely lost it. There is no way the boss is a Goal. Let's just grab a beer and forget them"

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_warfare
bluemason3 bluemason3 Veteran
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#32 ·
Ryan Wilson2 said:I find myself entirely dissatisfied with 😁
's response.
Every single human need, in theory, can be met 🙂
.

That’s not how it works. Even the strongest lion lives in fear of running into a bigger predator or just getting old. You're constantly forced to prove your strength and mark your territory. There’s no such thing as a permanent status quo in a fight; the moment you hesitate, someone else steps in to take your spot.

At its core, it's probably just a mix of needing security and the primal urge to dominate the pack. 🤷

Though, I wouldn't jump to conclusions based on those theories quite so easily. 😬
Ryan Wilson2 Ryan Wilson2 Regular
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#33 ·
bluemason3 said:That’s not how it works. Even the strongest lion lives in fear of running into a bigger predator or just getting old. You're constantly forced to prove your strength and mark your territory. There’s no such thing as a permanent status quo in a fight; the moment you hesitate, someone else steps in to take your spot.

At its core, it's probably just a mix of needing security and the primal urge to dominate the pack. 🤷

Though, I wouldn't jump to conclusions based on those theories quite so easily. 😬

However, if one possesses the absolute certainty of being the most powerful entity—knowing that no one can outmatch them (for instance, having enough wealth to live several lifetimes over)—then the drive for dominance is effectively satisfied.

Unless... (and here we enter the realm of conspiracy theories 😁)... the accumulation of wealth isn't actually the end goal itself. It isn't about how much they possess; rather, it is about how little we have, ensuring that control over such a massive population remains easily attainable. Pure brute force is no longer a viable method of governance, as maintaining a massive standing army is too costly. Instead, they employ much more sophisticated systems of control. And why is control necessary? Because, much like sheep in a pen, we exist to serve a purpose. Most likely, we serve as sustenance for some dominant Alien species.😁
bluemason3 bluemason3 Veteran
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#34 ·
Ryan Wilson2 said:However, if one possesses the absolute certainty of being the most powerful entity—knowing that no one can outmatch them (for instance, having enough wealth to live several lifetimes over)—then the drive for dominance is effectively satisfied.

Unless... (and here we enter the realm of conspiracy theories 😁)... the accumulation of wealth isn't actually the end goal itself. It isn't about how much they possess; rather, it is about how little we have, ensuring that control over such a massive population remains easily attainable. Pure brute force is no longer a viable method of governance, as maintaining a massive standing army is too costly. Instead, they employ much more sophisticated systems of control. And why is control necessary? Because, much like sheep in a pen, we exist to serve a purpose. Most likely, we serve as sustenance for some dominant Alien species.😁

You have plenty of cash.

But money is just an abstraction that relies on a stable financial system. You might own property, but that ownership depends entirely on a stable political system.

Lose control of those systems, or someone pulls off a revolution and nationalizes everything, and you're left with nothing.😁

Of course, this is all just speculation and rambling. I'm distancing myself from all the usual conspiracy theorists and whatnot.😁 😁
Ryan Wilson2 Ryan Wilson2 Regular
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#35 ·
Well, we’re on an alternative platform now, so we might as well speculate. 😁

The stability of our entire financial system relies heavily on those who hold the most capital—the massive corporations, the Illuminati, and so on. Because of that, there isn't any real danger to the status quo. Stock trading, the stock exchanges, and all that business aren't much different from gambling if you don't possess
the necessary insider information.

And how does one quickly pull in another million when you control everything? It couldn't be easier:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Flash_Crash

(though I highly doubt anyone will actually bother reading this 😁)

So, the premise is that the financial market is controlled by a small group of people. By doing so, they can manipulate the masses. The question remains... why?

I'm not ruling out the possibilities suggested by the likes of Aikavci

But, staying true to the spirit of the topic, perhaps the craving for conspiracy theories is merely a camouflaged longing for religiosity? A desire for there to be something above us controlling things, thereby providing a sense of purpose to our lives. After all, I see no fundamental difference in the logic: whether we are being watched over by an almighty God because we are special, or being watched over by an evil Alien because we are tasty.

Imagine the horror if we were to realize that neither God, nor reptiles, nor the Illuminati exist... and that we are simply left entirely to our own devices. 😲
Daniel Castillo11 Daniel Castillo11 Active Member
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#36 ·
Ryan Wilson2 said:Well, we’re on an alternative platform now, so we might as well speculate. 😁

The stability of our entire financial system relies heavily on those who hold the most capital—the massive corporations, the Illuminati, and so on. Because of that, there isn't any real danger to the status quo. Stock trading, the stock exchanges, and all that business aren't much different from gambling if you don't possess
the necessary insider information.

And how does one quickly pull in another million when you control everything? It couldn't be easier:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Flash_Crash

(though I highly doubt anyone will actually bother reading this 😁)

So, the premise is that the financial market is controlled by a small group of people. By doing so, they can manipulate the masses. The question remains... why?

I'm not ruling out the possibilities suggested by the likes of Aikavci

But, staying true to the spirit of the topic, perhaps the craving for conspiracy theories is merely a camouflaged longing for religiosity? A desire for there to be something above us controlling things, thereby providing a sense of purpose to our lives. After all, I see no fundamental difference in the logic: whether we are being watched over by an almighty God because we are special, or being watched over by an evil Alien because we are tasty.

Imagine the horror if we were to realize that neither God, nor reptiles, nor the Illuminati exist... and that we are simply left entirely to our own devices. 😲

I have this nagging fear that the final scenario is actually the reality. 🙂
bluemason3 bluemason3 Veteran
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#37 ·
Ryan Wilson2 said:Well, we’re on an alternative platform now, so we might as well speculate. 😁

The stability of our entire financial system relies heavily on those who hold the most capital—the massive corporations, the Illuminati, and so on. Because of that, there isn't any real danger to the status quo. Stock trading, the stock exchanges, and all that business aren't much different from gambling if you don't possess
the necessary insider information.

And how does one quickly pull in another million when you control everything? It couldn't be easier:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Flash_Crash

(though I highly doubt anyone will actually bother reading this 😁)

So, the premise is that the financial market is controlled by a small group of people. By doing so, they can manipulate the masses. The question remains... why?

I'm not ruling out the possibilities suggested by the likes of Aikavci

But, staying true to the spirit of the topic, perhaps the craving for conspiracy theories is merely a camouflaged longing for religiosity? A desire for there to be something above us controlling things, thereby providing a sense of purpose to our lives. After all, I see no fundamental difference in the logic: whether we are being watched over by an almighty God because we are special, or being watched over by an evil Alien because we are tasty.

Imagine the horror if we were to realize that neither God, nor reptiles, nor the Illuminati exist... and that we are simply left entirely to our own devices. 😲

That's exactly why. 🤷

If they stopped using their capital to manipulate the flow of money, they might actually lose it. You can't step back from being the puppet master and still expect to coast on the wealth and security that comes with it. If they stop playing the game, someone else with their own agenda steps in to take over. 🤷
Kate Howard63 Kate Howard63 Newcomer
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#38 ·
bluemason3 said:That's exactly why. 🤷

If they stopped using their capital to manipulate the flow of money, they might actually lose it. You can't step back from being the puppet master and still expect to coast on the wealth and security that comes with it. If they stop playing the game, someone else with their own agenda steps in to take over. 🤷

I believe you are missing the core point being made by Baphomet. These elites possess such vast quantities of wealth that money itself has become practically meaningless to them. There is an underlying ideology driving their actions—an ideology that binds the most powerful people on Earth together. Money is not the ultimate goal; it is merely the instrument. The true objective of these elites is not the accumulation of more currency, but something far more profound.
bluemason3 bluemason3 Veteran
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#39 ·
Kate Howard63 said:I believe you are missing the core point being made by Baphomet. These elites possess such vast quantities of wealth that money itself has become practically meaningless to them. There is an underlying ideology driving their actions—an ideology that binds the most powerful people on Earth together. Money is not the ultimate goal; it is merely the instrument. The true objective of these elites is not the accumulation of more currency, but something far more profound.

That only works if we assume every single elite shares the exact same agenda and that there's one massive, unified global conspiracy. I don't buy that. It's far more likely that there are various webs of interest, complete with internal competition—old guard players versus young lions trying to grab a bigger slice of the pie.

To put it in a local context—someone like Warren Buffett has enough financial muscle to exert significant influence over the country. By threatening to pull major advertising budgets, they can sway the media. By leveraging jobs or sparking social unrest, they influence politics. They crush competition through market dominance and control everything from the supply chain and silos to the retail giants and wholesale pricing.

But what would stop him from doing it? Do you really think he could just walk away and keep his position? Or would others try to squeeze him out? Maybe even dig up some dirt to take him down entirely? He might end up facing a fate similar to George W. Bush.😁

Even if a global conspiracy does exist, an individual like that would only be part of it because it serves their own interests. He gets something out of it, and the group gets something too. He’s in the game because he’s useful; nobody cares about passive players. And when things get riskier or more secretive, it becomes harder to quit. It’s much easier to walk away from being a baker than it is to walk away from being a spy or a mobster. You know too much to ever truly be let go.😁
mistygull16 mistygull16 Active MemberOP
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Ryan Wilson2 said:I find myself entirely dissatisfied with 😁
's response.
Every single human need, in theory, can be met 🙂
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Needs? Sure. Greed? Not a chance.

Greed doesn't actually bring satisfaction.

Plus, when someone gets greedy, they just end up leaving everyone else with nothing.

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