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Who truly understands? Who can grasp the actual significance of something? Who really gets it? Who actually knows?
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Anyone else getting this?
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electrictinker26 said:Who truly understands? Who can grasp the actual significance of something? Who really gets it? Who actually knows?
Look, we can all just decide to be those people if we want to, right?😉
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electrictinker26 said:Who truly understands? Who can grasp the actual significance of something? Who really gets it? Who actually knows?
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I can't help but feel like he looks a little bit like Charles Manson in this shot:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nisargadatta_Maharaj
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nisargadatta_Maharaj
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I’ve been reflecting lately on what it actually is within us that perceives and understands—that "who" is doing the perceiving. I’ve come to realize that the ego’s comprehension, or even the knowledge we acquire, has to be viewed as something entirely separate from our core essence. Who we truly are isn't tied to the ego; that existence simply *is*. It remains indifferent to what we happen to know or fail to grasp. For instance, knowing that 5 times 5 equals 25 doesn't change the fundamental reality of my existence. It’s a trivial fact that holds no weight regarding my being, aside from perhaps shifting some fleeting internal emotions.
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electrictinker26 said:I’ve been reflecting lately on what it actually is within us that perceives and understands—that "who" is doing the perceiving. I’ve come to realize that the ego’s comprehension, or even the knowledge we acquire, has to be viewed as something entirely separate from our core essence. Who we truly are isn't tied to the ego; that existence simply *is*. It remains indifferent to what we happen to know or fail to grasp. For instance, knowing that 5 times 5 equals 25 doesn't change the fundamental reality of my existence. It’s a trivial fact that holds no weight regarding my being, aside from perhaps shifting some fleeting internal emotions.
The thinker is always an illusion. That same entity thinks it understands things, but none of that touches one's core existence. The true self isn't thought out; it is revealed. Until that revelation happens, you can't actually experience existence—everything else is just layers upon layers of illusion. No amount of thinking can touch Reality, because as long as there is an individual mind operating, there is no direct experience of true being. The goal isn't to destroy the ego, but to move beyond the mind entirely. The ego is always "real" in its own way, but it mistakenly experiences itself as limited based on the labels and attributes we give it. In short, the ego is simply the vessel for consciousness.
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Vuco is the only prophet capable of leading Americans out of bondage. He’s the only one who could actually split the Gulf of Mexico in two.
The Eastern school claims everything is an illusion, while the Western school insists everything is real. Take your pick.
The Eastern school claims everything is an illusion, while the Western school insists everything is real. Take your pick.
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electrictinker26 said:Who truly understands? Who can grasp the actual significance of something? Who really gets it? Who actually knows?
Look, even you know it. You know you aren't totally certain about what you "know," and honestly? That’s a good thing to realize once in a while.
But the meaning of what, exactly?
The sun? The sky? A summer breeze? A rainstorm? Or... something else?
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electrictinker26 said:Who truly understands? Who can grasp the actual significance of something? Who really gets it? Who actually knows?
It’s fundamentally the exact same thing as this question right here:
So, let me tell you about this Zen monk—this guy who essentially reached out and physically touched someone's very soul, allowing his student to finally see what a person's true nature actually looks like.
Later on, this monk became known as Obaku Ki Una (Obaku Ki-un) (who passed away around 850), one of those legendary Zen masters from the Tang Dynasty era.
There was this high-ranking Governor—think someone with authority over an entire state, like a Governor from Texas or something—who decided to visit a monastery under his jurisdiction. The Abbot took him on a tour of the various parts of the complex.
When they walked into a hall where portraits of past Abbots were displayed, the Governor pointed at one of them and asked the Abbot:
"Who is that?" The Abbot replied, "The late Abbot." Then the Governor hit him with this follow-up: "Well, there's his picture, but where is his character? Where is his soul?"
The Abbot was stuck—completely stumped. But the Governor wouldn't let it go; he kept pressing for an answer, demanding some kind of profound insight.
The Abbot was feeling pretty desperate, honestly, because none of his disciples could provide an answer that would satisfy the Governor's relentless questioning.
Finally, he remembered this foreign monk who had recently sought refuge at the monastery—a guy who spent most of his free time just keeping things tidy, making sure
the courtyards were swept and everything was looking sharp. He figured this outsider, who looked the part of a Zen master, might be able to handle the Governor.
They called the monk over and presented him to the Governor. The Abbot approached the monk with total respect: "Sir, the gentlemen present here are,
unfortunately, unable to answer my question. Would you be so kind as to step in?" The monk simply asked, "What is the question?"
The Governor explained the whole situation and repeated himself: "Here is the portrait of the late Abbot, but where is his spirit? Where is his being?"
The monk just waved his hand and exclaimed, "Oh, Governor!" The Governor responded, "I am listening, sir!" "Where is it? That was the monk's riddle.
Did anyone actually figure this one out!???
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I had a thought today. We are actually terrified of the unknown. To cope, we construct frameworks of knowledge to act as a sort of survival guide. We use it to define who we are in this moment. While knowledge is useful, I find it can be incredibly limiting. If we aren't out there exploring for ourselves—if we just swallow what others tell us—we end up trapped inside someone else's worldview. We might dismiss our own instincts as foolish, when in reality, they aren't stupid at all; they’re just different, more evolved, or perhaps more creative. As Einstein said, imagination is often more important than knowledge. My fear is being pushed outside the boundaries of what "established" knowledge allows. So many people doubt their own intuition simply because they don't know what else is possible, which keeps them from truly expressing themselves. We fear being ourselves because we haven't fully grasped our own potential, or because we worry about how others will react if we apply what we know in unconventional ways. We wonder if we'll fit in. Does anyone get what I mean? It's that indescribable feeling—the kind you just sense without needing to overthink it. It's the realization that while our minds have limits, we are accepted exactly as we are: perfectly limited and yet entirely whole.
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electrictinker26 said:I had a thought today. We are actually terrified of the unknown. To cope, we construct frameworks of knowledge to act as a sort of survival guide. We use it to define who we are in this moment. While knowledge is useful, I find it can be incredibly limiting. If we aren't out there exploring for ourselves—if we just swallow what others tell us—we end up trapped inside someone else's worldview. We might dismiss our own instincts as foolish, when in reality, they aren't stupid at all; they’re just different, more evolved, or perhaps more creative. As Einstein said, imagination is often more important than knowledge. My fear is being pushed outside the boundaries of what "established" knowledge allows. So many people doubt their own intuition simply because they don't know what else is possible, which keeps them from truly expressing themselves. We fear being ourselves because we haven't fully grasped our own potential, or because we worry about how others will react if we apply what we know in unconventional ways. We wonder if we'll fit in. Does anyone get what I mean? It's that indescribable feeling—the kind you just sense without needing to overthink it. It's the realization that while our minds have limits, we are accepted exactly as we are: perfectly limited and yet entirely whole.
That’s a really interesting perspective, and honestly, it could very well be true.
I'm with the bold 👍
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