Americans don't want to fund the church

Nathan Brooks4 said:The communists always had their sights set on dismantling the Catholic Church.
And honestly, it feels like today’s power players are just carrying that same torch.
So, what is the average American actually doing about it? 🤷

Americans aren't doing a damn thing about it.
They’re too busy worrying about trash bins and garbage cans
sitting right next to the church gates.😁

Charles Lopez3 said:Americans aren't doing a damn thing about it.
They’re too busy worrying about trash bins and garbage cans
sitting right next to the church gates.😁

Meanwhile, those folks from the old country are sitting pretty in offices for some "non-profit" organization set up just to benefit them.

Man, Nathan Brooks4,
you’re absolutely crushing it! 😁

If that's how you see it, ☕

bluemason3 said:How exactly do you think these associations are getting their funding right now? You think they have state contracts similar to the church? 😁

Furthermore, the government should just determine which professional roles are actually needed based on specific profiles. The budget should only cover the personnel required to meet those needs. If someone really wants to study "cultural management," "interdisciplinary humanities," "eco-activism," or astrology, they can pay for it themselves.

I agree.
Though, looking at it from another angle, training a doctor costs way more than training a historian. Then the doctor moves abroad and we get nothing out of it—just money thrown straight down the drain.😁

The solution is simple: cut everything from the budget that lacks a General consensus or a clear necessity. Shift that funding over to the people who actually have a need or a desire for it.

There isn't a General consensus on anything. The issue with certain international treaties is that they override even the regular freedom to change things in Congress, even when there's a majority that wants it. I don't think that level of regulation is necessary; it should stay an internal matter for the state.

As a believer, I'd happily donate to my own Church. But I won't fund feminist or LGBTQ+ groups, political parties I'd never vote for, or "traitorous" organizations for the unemployed like Documenta, GOLJP, or GONG. Nor am I interested in paying for someone else's degree in film directing or sociology. Keep the books clean and the conscience clear.

They aren't in the same boat. It would be perfectly fair if the church were funded the same way those associations are. Go ahead, try suggesting that to the priests and see if you think they're actually in such a strong position to survive that way.😉

The obvious fix is just offering targeted scholarships for specific medical needs paired with a service contract—you commit to working locally for a set number of years, or you pay back every cent of the tuition if you decide you'd rather move to California.
And obviously, that logic should apply to pretty much every other profession too.
But funding a degree for every random person who realizes sitting in a lecture hall feels a lot better than actually having a job? That’s just irresponsible, plain and simple, and a massive waste of resources.

Richard Wilson4 said:Look, I'm all for the referendum, let's see what happens. Though honestly? I doubt they'll ever hit that 350,000 signature mark.

They'd get the signatures, sure. But by the time the actual vote rolled around, there'd be so much pressure at every single church social and community meeting that everyone would be bullied into voting against it.

Larry Walker24 said:They'd get the signatures, sure. But by the time the actual vote rolled around, there'd be so much pressure at every single church social and community meeting that everyone would be bullied into voting against it.

😲 So you're claiming they'd basically drag you to church by force and harass you until you agreed to vote 'no'?
Those religious zealots are absolute monsters, I swear. 🙂

Grace Wood5 said:😲 So you're claiming they'd basically drag you to church by force and harass you until you agreed to vote 'no'?
Those religious zealots are absolute monsters, I swear. 🙂

just look at the local Bishop 😁

Charles Lopez3 said:just look at the local Bishop 😁

😱 Where did he drag you off to? 🙂

Grace Wood5 said:😱 Where did he drag you off to? 🙂

it's all starting to make sense on the forum 😱

It honestly terrifies me just thinking about what he put her through. 😢

A few people were acting all worried,
but honestly, I don't even know what I'd do to him 🤣

Charles Lopez3 said:A few people were acting all worried,
but honestly, I don't even know what I'd do to him 🤣

Fine, if that's how you want to play it, but then the Off-Topic board would be a much better fit for this. 🙂

They were probably talking about some health PDF or something.
blood pressure, blood sugar, all that jazz... 🤣

I mean, I’m basically a saint, right?

😂 Look, I’ve been in that spot before where I had to follow through, even when my date wasn't exactly my type. If you give your word, you stick to it. 😂

Look,
you're definitely not some kind of saint!
Saints always get handed the best ideas on a silver platter. 🤣

She’s actually trying to bait me into sending a photo just to prove myself. 🤣
Is my word alone not enough for you? 😁