What is Wicca?

Thomas Nelson25 said:Dionysus

Exactly. He stands as one of the most significant deities tied to the Green Man, serving as a highly probable direct inspiration for those decorative reliefs and carvings we see from the late antique and medieval periods.

slycyclist26 said:Cernunnos?

You know, I think Cernunnos is just another one of those ancient troublemakers, likely playing a role quite similar to the other deities we discuss, though he remains somewhat of a mystery since the Celts didn't leave behind any written records for us to pore over. We really only have certain Roman accounts to lean on when discussing him. His iconography, however, is absolutely fascinating to look into.

bluemason3 said:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leshy 😁

The Leshy is absolutely legendary. 🙂

Daniel Castillo11 said:You know, I think Cernunnos is just another one of those ancient troublemakers, likely playing a role quite similar to the other deities we discuss, though he remains somewhat of a mystery since the Celts didn't leave behind any written records for us to pore over. We really only have certain Roman accounts to lean on when discussing him. His iconography, however, is absolutely fascinating to look into.

All I know is that guy does pretty well during the Sabbath... because... well... he likes hanging out with packs of young, naked witches...😬
Especially on Black Sabbath 😁

David Fowler86 said:Can you tell me where you perform your rituals? Finding the right space was always such a struggle for me. I just couldn't imagine doing them in an apartment—the environment just doesn't spark any inspiration. I haven't actually performed them yet, partly because I didn't feel the need for a rigid structure, and partly because I simply hadn't found the right setting. Because of that, my imagination became my primary tool, as I mentioned before.

I always perform my rituals in my bedroom. That way, I have enough privacy and can truly set the mood properly.
In the early stages of my practice, setting up the physical space, preparing the tools, and creating the atmosphere meant much more to me than they do now. Back then, I had this habit of lighting dozens of candles—I’d illuminate the entire room using nothing but candlelight. I’d have an altar candle, four candles at the edges of the circle (one for each cardinal direction), a candle for the essential oil stand... It looked absolutely beautiful, but since I have carpet in my room and some pretty long curtains, there was always that nagging fear that a candle holder might tip over or something similar might happen. Because of that, I don't light all those candles anymore—for lighting, I just use a soft glow from a small lamp in the corner, and I represent the fire element with a single wand instead.
Before starting, I move my desk and chair out of the way so I have plenty of room to move. For an altar, I use a storage box where I keep most of my supplies, which is quite practical. I prefer working while sitting on the floor. Once, I tried sitting in a chair, but it just felt completely wrong. I sit in chairs constantly—on the subway, while eating, studying, reading, or grabbing coffee... but when I sit on the floor, I feel like what I am doing is something special and sacred.

I always perform my rituals in my bedroom. That way, I have enough privacy and can truly set the mood properly.
In the early stages of my practice, setting up the physical space, preparing the tools, and creating the atmosphere meant much more to me than they do now. Back then, I had this habit of lighting dozens of candles—I’d illuminate the entire room using nothing but candlelight. I’d have an altar candle, four candles at the edges of the circle (one for each cardinal direction), a candle for the essential oil stand... It looked absolutely beautiful, but since I have carpet in my room and some pretty long curtains, there was always that nagging fear that a candle holder might tip over or something similar might happen. Because of that, I don't light all those candles anymore—for lighting, I just use a soft glow from a small lamp in the corner, and I represent the fire element with a single wand instead.
Before starting, I move my desk and chair out of the way so I have plenty of room to move. For an altar, I use a storage box where I keep most of my supplies, which is quite practical. I prefer working while sitting on the floor. Once, I tried sitting in a chair, but it just felt completely wrong. I sit in chairs constantly—on the subway, while eating, studying, reading, or grabbing coffee... but when I sit on the floor, I feel like what I am doing is something special and sacred.

I always perform my rituals in my bedroom. That way, I have enough privacy and can truly set the mood properly.
In the early stages of my practice, setting up the physical space, preparing the tools, and creating the atmosphere meant much more to me than they do now. Back then, I had this habit of lighting dozens of candles—I’d illuminate the entire room using nothing but candlelight. I’d have an altar candle, four candles at the edges of the circle (one for each cardinal direction), a candle for the essential oil stand... It looked absolutely beautiful, but since I have carpet in my room and some pretty long curtains, there was always that nagging fear that a candle holder might tip over or something similar might happen. Because of that, I don't light all those candles anymore—for lighting, I just use a soft glow from a small lamp in the corner, and I represent the fire element with a single wand instead.
Before starting, I move my desk and chair out of the way so I have plenty of room to move. For an altar, I use a storage box where I keep most of my supplies, which is quite practical. I prefer working while sitting on the floor. Once, I tried sitting in a chair, but it just felt completely wrong. I sit in chairs constantly—on the subway, while eating, studying, reading, or grabbing coffee... but when I sit on the floor, I feel like what I am doing is something special and sacred.
Thank you for such a thorough description! 🙂

For me, for instance, it was vital that my ritual space be separate from where I sleep, but that wasn't something I could afford to do. I didn't like the idea of the ritual energies lingering, regardless of how positive they might be. I want to sleep in a space that is completely neutral in that regard.

Do you perform your rituals with a specific purpose in mind, or are they primarily acts of gratitude and conversation with God or the Goddess?

Daniel Castillo11 said:Yeah, it’s a cool concept. You see them all over the place here in Washington, D.C., decorating building facades. Some have horns, others don't.

Thinker, alongside Dionysus, stands as one of the primary candidates for having directly influenced this specific motif found in medieval European cathedrals. It is a rather ironic twist of fate, considering those very same figures were later demonized and equated with the devil.

Thinker is also such a fascinating and compelling creature.

I hadn't heard of Joe Green before, which is interesting. I am aware, however, that the ancient American deity Volos was a horned god presiding over forests, waters, vegetation, and mystery. Much like Thinker, he was known for being quite temperamental—wild and untamed. These types of deities usually held an ambivalent relationship with societal structures of order, which meant they were simultaneously objects of deep reverence and genuine fear among the people.

Horned gods most frequently symbolize the wilderness, the raw power of nature, abundance, fertility, and regeneration—and not infrequently, our primal instincts and spontaneity.

Some of these associations feel neo-pagan, emerging from various sources by blending different horned deities together, while others have undoubtedly been present since the very beginning, stretching back to the early Neolithic era.

Exactly. It’s everything that modern consciousness-raising techniques are desperately trying to strip away from us. 🙂 That core, primordial essence of being human...

Daniel Castillo11 said:Yeah, it’s a cool concept. You see them all over the place here in Washington, D.C., decorating building facades. Some have horns, others don't.

Thinker, alongside Dionysus, stands as one of the primary candidates for having directly influenced this specific motif found in medieval European cathedrals. It is a rather ironic twist of fate, considering those very same figures were later demonized and equated with the devil.

Thinker is also such a fascinating and compelling creature.

I hadn't heard of Joe Green before, which is interesting. I am aware, however, that the ancient American deity Volos was a horned god presiding over forests, waters, vegetation, and mystery. Much like Thinker, he was known for being quite temperamental—wild and untamed. These types of deities usually held an ambivalent relationship with societal structures of order, which meant they were simultaneously objects of deep reverence and genuine fear among the people.

Horned gods most frequently symbolize the wilderness, the raw power of nature, abundance, fertility, and regeneration—and not infrequently, our primal instincts and spontaneity.

Some of these associations feel neo-pagan, emerging from various sources by blending different horned deities together, while others have undoubtedly been present since the very beginning, stretching back to the early Neolithic era.

Daniel Castillo11 said:Yeah, it’s a cool concept. You see them all over the place here in Washington, D.C., decorating building facades. Some have horns, others don't.

Thinker, alongside Dionysus, stands as one of the primary candidates for having directly influenced this specific motif found in medieval European cathedrals. It is a rather ironic twist of fate, considering those very same figures were later demonized and equated with the devil.

Thinker is also such a fascinating and compelling creature.

I hadn't heard of Joe Green before, which is interesting. I am aware, however, that the ancient American deity Volos was a horned god presiding over forests, waters, vegetation, and mystery. Much like Thinker, he was known for being quite temperamental—wild and untamed. These types of deities usually held an ambivalent relationship with societal structures of order, which meant they were simultaneously objects of deep reverence and genuine fear among the people.

Horned gods most frequently symbolize the wilderness, the raw power of nature, abundance, fertility, and regeneration—and not infrequently, our primal instincts and spontaneity.

Some of these associations feel neo-pagan, emerging from various sources by blending different horned deities together, while others have undoubtedly been present since the very beginning, stretching back to the early Neolithic era.

Come on, how could you not know Joe? 😍

So, he’s still being celebrated—on St. George's Day, naturally.

If you’re looking for a deep dive into this subject, I highly recommend checking out Vitomir Belaj's book, "Walk through years." It's an excellent read.

To put it simply, Joe is actually the son of Perun, but Veles snatched him away when he was just a baby. He ended up being raised down in the underworld, surrounded by the dead. His sister, Mara, stayed behind with Perun, and she shows up every spring in the form of a cuckoo bird. Around that same time, Joe makes his way back up to the surface, and they eventually reunite on St. George's Day, while the women meet up during Ivan's.

My mother is Mokosh—though some of her other names have been lost to time. She spends half the year with Perun and the other half with his lover, Veles. It’s a dynamic pretty similar to what you see with Persephone. You can find traces of her in various American folk songs dedicated to the Virgin Mary, while Joe shows up in the songs for St. George's Day, and Perun is closely tied to Elijah.

To put it simply—Perun represents the sky, while Veles stands for the earth, often appearing in the form of a serpent, a dragon, an ox, or even a bear. Then you have Mokosh, the "moist mother earth," whose very name ties her to her connection with Veles. As for what accompanies Perun, I’m still not entirely sure, though I suspect it might be some kind of celestial water within the clouds. Joe carries a sword, which suggests his element is metal, and his animal counterparts would be the horse or the wolf.

Mara remains the biggest mystery here. At some point (I can't pin down the exact date), she kills Joe and transforms into Morana, the Goddess of Winter. While jealousy is usually cited as the motive for the killing, I can't help but feel it leans more toward the myth of Isis and Osiris... that idea of tearing something apart just so it can be rebuilt, allowing the natural cycle to start all over again.

Joshua Patel6 said:I always perform my rituals in my bedroom. That way, I have enough privacy and can truly set the mood properly.
In the early stages of my practice, setting up the physical space, preparing the tools, and creating the atmosphere meant much more to me than they do now. Back then, I had this habit of lighting dozens of candles—I’d illuminate the entire room using nothing but candlelight. I’d have an altar candle, four candles at the edges of the circle (one for each cardinal direction), a candle for the essential oil stand... It looked absolutely beautiful, but since I have carpet in my room and some pretty long curtains, there was always that nagging fear that a candle holder might tip over or something similar might happen. Because of that, I don't light all those candles anymore—for lighting, I just use a soft glow from a small lamp in the corner, and I represent the fire element with a single wand instead.
Before starting, I move my desk and chair out of the way so I have plenty of room to move. For an altar, I use a storage box where I keep most of my supplies, which is quite practical. I prefer working while sitting on the floor. Once, I tried sitting in a chair, but it just felt completely wrong. I sit in chairs constantly—on the subway, while eating, studying, reading, or grabbing coffee... but when I sit on the floor, I feel like what I am doing is something special and sacred.

I always perform my rituals in my bedroom. That way, I have enough privacy and can truly set the mood properly.
In the early stages of my practice, setting up the physical space, preparing the tools, and creating the atmosphere meant much more to me than they do now. Back then, I had this habit of lighting dozens of candles—I’d illuminate the entire room using nothing but candlelight. I’d have an altar candle, four candles at the edges of the circle (one for each cardinal direction), a candle for the essential oil stand... It looked absolutely beautiful, but since I have carpet in my room and some pretty long curtains, there was always that nagging fear that a candle holder might tip over or something similar might happen. Because of that, I don't light all those candles anymore—for lighting, I just use a soft glow from a small lamp in the corner, and I represent the fire element with a single wand instead.
Before starting, I move my desk and chair out of the way so I have plenty of room to move. For an altar, I use a storage box where I keep most of my supplies, which is quite practical. I prefer working while sitting on the floor. Once, I tried sitting in a chair, but it just felt completely wrong. I sit in chairs constantly—on the subway, while eating, studying, reading, or grabbing coffee... but when I sit on the floor, I feel like what I am doing is something special and sacred.
Thank you for such a thorough description! 🙂

For me, for instance, it was vital that my ritual space be separate from where I sleep, but that wasn't something I could afford to do. I didn't like the idea of the ritual energies lingering, regardless of how positive they might be. I want to sleep in a space that is completely neutral in that regard.

Do you perform your rituals with a specific purpose in mind, or are they primarily acts of gratitude and conversation with God or the Goddess?
Thank you for such a thorough description! 🙂

For me, for instance, it was vital that my ritual space be separate from where I sleep, but that wasn't something I could afford to do. I didn't like the idea of the ritual energies lingering, regardless of how positive they might be. I want to sleep in a space that is completely neutral in that regard.

Do you perform your rituals with a specific purpose in mind, or are they primarily acts of gratitude and conversation with God or the Goddess?
I perform rituals mainly to honor the Goddess and God and to express my gratitude for everything I have—though if you're asking whether I perform actual magic, then yes, occasionally, as part of my rituals for the Sabbath or an esbat.

Joseph Bailey41 said:Come on, how could you not know Joe? 😍

So, he’s still being celebrated—on St. George's Day, naturally.

If you’re looking for a deep dive into this subject, I highly recommend checking out Vitomir Belaj's book, "Walk through years." It's an excellent read.

To put it simply, Joe is actually the son of Perun, but Veles snatched him away when he was just a baby. He ended up being raised down in the underworld, surrounded by the dead. His sister, Mara, stayed behind with Perun, and she shows up every spring in the form of a cuckoo bird. Around that same time, Joe makes his way back up to the surface, and they eventually reunite on St. George's Day, while the women meet up during Ivan's.

My mother is Mokosh—though some of her other names have been lost to time. She spends half the year with Perun and the other half with his lover, Veles. It’s a dynamic pretty similar to what you see with Persephone. You can find traces of her in various American folk songs dedicated to the Virgin Mary, while Joe shows up in the songs for St. George's Day, and Perun is closely tied to Elijah.

To put it simply—Perun represents the sky, while Veles stands for the earth, often appearing in the form of a serpent, a dragon, an ox, or even a bear. Then you have Mokosh, the "moist mother earth," whose very name ties her to her connection with Veles. As for what accompanies Perun, I’m still not entirely sure, though I suspect it might be some kind of celestial water within the clouds. Joe carries a sword, which suggests his element is metal, and his animal counterparts would be the horse or the wolf.

Mara remains the biggest mystery here. At some point (I can't pin down the exact date), she kills Joe and transforms into Morana, the Goddess of Winter. While jealousy is usually cited as the motive for the killing, I can't help but feel it leans more toward the myth of Isis and Osiris... that idea of tearing something apart just so it can be rebuilt, allowing the natural cycle to start all over again.

That is actually where I first learned about it. 🙂 I actually have a copy of that book right here at my house.

By the way, I have to say, your avatar is absolutely fantastic 🙂

David Fowler86 said:Thank you for such a thorough description! 🙂

For me, for instance, it was vital that my ritual space be separate from where I sleep, but that wasn't something I could afford to do. I didn't like the idea of the ritual energies lingering, regardless of how positive they might be. I want to sleep in a space that is completely neutral in that regard.

Do you perform your rituals with a specific purpose in mind, or are they primarily acts of gratitude and conversation with God or the Goddess?

I perform rituals mainly to honor the Goddess and God and to express my gratitude for everything I have—though if you're asking whether I perform actual magic, then yes, occasionally, as part of my rituals for the Sabbath or an esbat.
Fala 🙂

Joshua Patel6 said:That is actually where I first learned about it. 🙂 I actually have a copy of that book right here at my house.

By the way, I have to say, your avatar is absolutely fantastic 🙂

Fala, I actually had a dream last night where she bought me a beer at some pub. And man, she was swearing so much it would’ve made even Shakespeare blush. So, I figured there must be some kind of meaning behind it. 😬

off-topic mode off:

Belaj isn't exactly a page-turner unless you really dive deep into it. But honestly, there aren't better sources out there. (Maybe Katičić—I haven't read him yet, just have his stuff saved as PDFs, but I find it easier to digest this kind of reading on actual paper.)

If I had to pick the most likely candidate for the Green one, I’d go with Veles—he’s got that wild energy, whereas Joe feels a bit too civilized already.

As for the connection between Mokosh and the Virgin Mary, they both stem from the same source.

David Vaughn75 said:Theoretically, you could steal someone's car, and then that guy steals yours back—or maybe he actually swiped yours first, so you're just settling the score. In theory, you could slap a billion people in the face and somehow balance all those karmic debts forever without owing a cent. But that's just theory. In the real world? 99.99% of people are gonna screw up big time along the way and end up nowhere near God.

We're living in The Apocalypse—this dark age we're stuck in—so the easiest way to get to God is just by serving and honoring His qualities (that's the personal path), and He'll basically wipe your karmic slate clean 🥳 except most people actually *want* their karma because they think money and sex are the ultimate highs, and they aren't exactly sure what the vibe is like on His little planet.

So, how do you actually get that karma wiped away in your view? And which of God's traits should we be honoring if we want Him to break those karmic ties?

Not mocking you or anything, I'm genuinely curious.

Joseph Bailey41 said:Come on, how could you not know Joe? 😍

So, he’s still being celebrated—on St. George's Day, naturally.

If you’re looking for a deep dive into this subject, I highly recommend checking out Vitomir Belaj's book, "Walk through years." It's an excellent read.

To put it simply, Joe is actually the son of Perun, but Veles snatched him away when he was just a baby. He ended up being raised down in the underworld, surrounded by the dead. His sister, Mara, stayed behind with Perun, and she shows up every spring in the form of a cuckoo bird. Around that same time, Joe makes his way back up to the surface, and they eventually reunite on St. George's Day, while the women meet up during Ivan's.

My mother is Mokosh—though some of her other names have been lost to time. She spends half the year with Perun and the other half with his lover, Veles. It’s a dynamic pretty similar to what you see with Persephone. You can find traces of her in various American folk songs dedicated to the Virgin Mary, while Joe shows up in the songs for St. George's Day, and Perun is closely tied to Elijah.

To put it simply—Perun represents the sky, while Veles stands for the earth, often appearing in the form of a serpent, a dragon, an ox, or even a bear. Then you have Mokosh, the "moist mother earth," whose very name ties her to her connection with Veles. As for what accompanies Perun, I’m still not entirely sure, though I suspect it might be some kind of celestial water within the clouds. Joe carries a sword, which suggests his element is metal, and his animal counterparts would be the horse or the wolf.

Mara remains the biggest mystery here. At some point (I can't pin down the exact date), she kills Joe and transforms into Morana, the Goddess of Winter. While jealousy is usually cited as the motive for the killing, I can't help but feel it leans more toward the myth of Isis and Osiris... that idea of tearing something apart just so it can be rebuilt, allowing the natural cycle to start all over again.

My goodness. I didn't catch who was being referred to at first glance. Actually, back when I was looking at the original Jarilo, it took about an hour for the realization to strike me after I started reading. 🙂

If you want an excellent book on this subject, look for "Walk through years" by Vitomir Belaj.

I know a little bit about him, though I haven't actually read it yet, even though I have the PDF sitting on my drive.

To put it briefly, Joe is the son of Perun, whom Veles snatched away as an infant to raise in the underworld among the dead. His sister is Mara; she stayed behind with Perun and manifests herself in the form of a cuckoo during the spring. It is during this season that Joe returns to the earth, and they meet on St. George's Day, while the women meet on Ivan's day.

Their mother is Mokosh (that is one of her names, others have been lost to time), who spends half the year with Perun and the other half with Veles (her lover). It's a dynamic quite similar to that of Persephone. You can find her in various American folk songs dedicated to the Virgin Mary, Joe appears in those centered around St. George's, and Perun is linked to Elijah.

To simplify things—Perun represents the sky, while Veles represents the earth (appearing in the guise of a serpent, a dragon, an ox, or a bear). Mokosh is the "moist mother earth," a title tied to her time spent with Veles. As for what she is called while staying with Perun, we still don't know; perhaps she is some sort of celestial water within the clouds. Joe carries a sword, so his element is metal, and his animal is either the horse or the wolf.

Mara remains the greatest mystery here. At some point (the date of which is unknown), she kills Joe and transforms into Morana, the Goddess of winter. While jealousy is often cited as the motive for the killing, to me, it feels much more like the myth of Isis and Osiris... the dismemberment of a body so it might be reconstituted, allowing the natural cycle to begin anew.

Yes, the story is truly fascinating. Here in America, there are countless place names, and across other lands, where this mythology is etched directly into the geography. The Osirian myth shares some rather striking similarities in certain aspects.

Robin Clark said:So, how do you actually get that karma wiped away in your view? And which of God's traits should we be honoring if we want Him to break those karmic ties?

Not mocking you or anything, I'm genuinely curious.

You find a servant of God and then you serve that person.
Now, you might be sitting there wondering how on earth you’re supposed to recognize a true servant of God, but look—if you’re actually sincere about starting this journey toward divine consciousness, God is going to drop someone into your life 😉

Once you start serving God, He begins revealing His own attributes to you, which is what you need to be praising.

But listen, all of this has to be backed up by studying Vedic philosophy first, followed by the process of Bhakti Yoga—which, let’s be real, is the absolute highest level of spiritual practice. You aren't going to stumble upon this kind of wisdom just by sitting around sipping lattes and overthinking things; you need real books and actual spiritual guidance from people who know what they're talking about. To get the ball rolling, just go on YouTube and search for "Prabhupada" and just listen to what he has to say. Also, a word of advice: be incredibly careful with any American translations of the Bhagavad Gita you find lying around, because some of them are intentionally butchered. If you want the real deal, stick to the originals from Prabhupada: http://prabhupadabooks.com/

David Vaughn75 said:You find a servant of God and then you serve that person.
Now, you might be sitting there wondering how on earth you’re supposed to recognize a true servant of God, but look—if you’re actually sincere about starting this journey toward divine consciousness, God is going to drop someone into your life 😉

Once you start serving God, He begins revealing His own attributes to you, which is what you need to be praising.

But listen, all of this has to be backed up by studying Vedic philosophy first, followed by the process of Bhakti Yoga—which, let’s be real, is the absolute highest level of spiritual practice. You aren't going to stumble upon this kind of wisdom just by sitting around sipping lattes and overthinking things; you need real books and actual spiritual guidance from people who know what they're talking about. To get the ball rolling, just go on YouTube and search for "Prabhupada" and just listen to what he has to say. Also, a word of advice: be incredibly careful with any American translations of the Bhagavad Gita you find lying around, because some of them are intentionally butchered. If you want the real deal, stick to the originals from Prabhupada: http://prabhupadabooks.com/

I'm curious though, why would anyone go out of their way to purposefully mistranslate something?
I have a copy of Prabhupada's "Life Comes from Life" at home.
Is that one mistranslated too? I'm thinking about reading it.
The publisher is "The Bhaktivedanta Book Trust"
Translated by: Darko Šobak
Publisher: Bateli Davor
Printed in Cleveland, 1992.
Garuda

Even the Bible has its share of mistranslations. Honestly, I suspect it’s because the translators have bad intentions and are actually working for the Illuminati. ☕

Robin Clark said:I'm curious though, why would anyone go out of their way to purposefully mistranslate something?
I have a copy of Prabhupada's "Life Comes from Life" at home.
Is that one mistranslated too? I'm thinking about reading it.
The publisher is "The Bhaktivedanta Book Trust"
Translated by: Darko Šobak
Publisher: Bateli Davor
Printed in Cleveland, 1992.
Garuda

Because if you let people access the real truth, you're basically handing them the keys to dismantle the entire destiny of mankind.

That's exactly why they've spent centuries editing the Bible, why they tacked extra stuff onto the Quran, why those ancient Mayan and Egyptian texts were burned to the ground, and why the Bhagavad Gita translations are such a joke. This isn't some wild conspiracy theory—it's just straight-up history. The whole point of the ruling class is to make sure the people at the bottom never realize they have the power to rise up and take them down.

It’s why everything used to be passed down through oral tradition rather than being written down and locked away.😉

I've got this book by Prabhupada at home called "Life Comes from Life."
Is that one messed up too? I was thinking about reading it.
The publisher is "Bhaktivedanta Book Trust"
Translated by: Darko Šobak
Publisher: Bateli Davor
Printed in Cleveland, 1992.
Garuda

I don't know about that specific one—since it's an older book, there's a chance the translation actually holds water. But when it comes to the American editions of the Bhagavad Gita? I'm telling you, they're garbage.

There's this one part where Krishna tells Arjuna, "Now get out there and fight," and the translators flip it to say, "You don't have to fight." It's ridiculous.🤦

David Vaughn75 said:Because if you let people access the real truth, you're basically handing them the keys to dismantle the entire destiny of mankind.

That's exactly why they've spent centuries editing the Bible, why they tacked extra stuff onto the Quran, why those ancient Mayan and Egyptian texts were burned to the ground, and why the Bhagavad Gita translations are such a joke. This isn't some wild conspiracy theory—it's just straight-up history. The whole point of the ruling class is to make sure the people at the bottom never realize they have the power to rise up and take them down.

It’s why everything used to be passed down through oral tradition rather than being written down and locked away.😉

I've got this book by Prabhupada at home called "Life Comes from Life."
Is that one messed up too? I was thinking about reading it.
The publisher is "Bhaktivedanta Book Trust"
Translated by: Darko Šobak
Publisher: Bateli Davor
Printed in Cleveland, 1992.
Garuda

I don't know about that specific one—since it's an older book, there's a chance the translation actually holds water. But when it comes to the American editions of the Bhagavad Gita? I'm telling you, they're garbage.

There's this one part where Krishna tells Arjuna, "Now get out there and fight," and the translators flip it to say, "You don't have to fight." It's ridiculous.🤦

That’s why I think you shouldn't just read these things—you really need to listen to future Nobel laureates instead. 🧐

Joseph Bailey41 said:That’s why I think you shouldn't just read these things—you really need to listen to future Nobel laureates instead. 🧐

You're just playing games while the good karma keeps flowing.

But once that tap runs dry? You'll crash into a massive depression and end up jumping off a skyscraper.

A life without God isn't even a real life—it's just endless math and shady schemes. There's absolutely nothing real about it ☕
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A life without God is the only life truly worth living.