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Michael Sanders10 Michael Sanders10 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
Over the last few years, I’ve been struck by how drastically the circle of trust among people seems to be shrinking. What worries me most is that this erosion has started to seep into even the closest friendships. Have you all noticed this shift in your own lives? How exactly are you maintaining your friendships and nurturing that mutual sense of trust?...
Carl Rivera43 Carl Rivera43 Veteran
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#2 ·
I’ve been noticing that trust just seems to be drying up lately. Maybe it’s because all this modern tech makes it so much easier for people to spread rumors, lies, and insults than it ever was before.

It really stings when you realize you've been let down by people you actually stepped up for. You try to be a loyal friend, right? And then some third party comes along out of nowhere just to start talking trash.

Still, when I meet new people, I tend to keep my guard up a little bit. But I try to stay optimistic. Who knows? Maybe I'll find some real ones worth building that trust with.
mistymoose94 mistymoose94 Newcomer
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joined May 2014
#3 ·
Yeah, you’ve got to approach them with a healthy dose of skepticism—don't just take everything they say at face value. I mean, if they're actually the real deal, they'll stick around anyway.
ruggedtinker8 ruggedtinker8 Newcomer
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#4 ·
I don't really have any close friends, and honestly, I'm not even sorry about it.

Even those rare few people I actually let in—people I thought I’d built a real bond with—ended up screwing me over in ways a mortal enemy wouldn't even dream of. And this was after years of being nothing but positive and supportive.

At this point, being "close" to someone just feels like waiting for the inevitable knife in the back. It usually happens right when you're being your most honest, open, and vulnerable self.

These days, I prefer keeping things with cheerful people in that sweet spot between an acquaintance and a friend. We have plenty of good vibes, but there's enough intelligent distance involved that I don't pour too much of my time or energy into them. Of course, the unspoken rule is that I can't expect much emotional heavy lifting from them either.
It’s a much better setup. Every now and then, I might actually be pleasantly surprised by them, which beats getting burned by someone I practically shared my life with.
Lawrence Bailey77 Lawrence Bailey77 Regular
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joined Mar 2015
#5 ·
I still maintain the perspective that every individual is a friend—or perhaps, if I am being more precise, I view myself as somewhat of an outlier among people..

.. and so on, regarding the nature of man.. As a friend to anyone, I suppose I grant them the right to think whatever they please, though I find myself increasingly hesitant to let them act however they wish.. It has cost me far too much of my life on more than one occasion.. One only gets one shot at this existence, after all.. Consequently, I wouldn't trust anyone enough to stake my life on them anymore, which leads one straight into a state of total paranoia; yet, when I encounter someone, I feel a certain drive to try, provided I am capable, to be their friend as much as is possible and reasonable.. In my estimation, anyway.. hmm

.. To put it briefly, it is more than difficult; it feels as though every time I shake someone's hand, I am handing them an axe, and by listening to them, I am essentially placing my own head upon the chopping block.☕
Carl Rivera43 Carl Rivera43 Veteran
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#6 ·
Hmm, I think there's a sweet spot between being an open book and keeping a little something to yourself.

In my book, most people don't get to play judge and say, "This is my turf, you don't belong here."

That's just how it works, right? Trust takes years to build up, but it can vanish in a heartbeat.

We see it all over the news lately. Sometimes the lure of a quick buck drives people to betray those closest to them, and unfortunately, it makes everyone start doubting the folks who actually have good intentions.
Ronald Jones Ronald Jones Active Member
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joined Nov 2014
#7 ·
There are certain things you can only share with true friends—not just anyone, but those few people you trust implicitly. 😉

Pizantrofobija is essentially the fear of placing one's faith in others.
Carl Rivera43 Carl Rivera43 Veteran
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#8 ·
There are certain things you just can't fix with the people already in your life. You have to look toward new faces—people you're building a connection with from the ground up. That’s when you get to decide who stays and who goes, right? You actually have the power to choose how often you see them.

I mean, think about it. These could be folks who aren't even living in your neck of the woods, but you still feel that specific vibe from them. Even then, you keep a little breathing room in case they end up letting you down.

The more people you meet, the more doors open. It gives you a wider variety of options, whether you're looking for someone you can trust completely or someone you need to keep at arm's length.
steeleagle77 steeleagle77 Member
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joined Jul 2013
#9 ·
Perhaps they've finally come to terms with their true nature.
mellowwalker15 mellowwalker15 Newcomer
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#10 ·
I’d argue we’ve drifted apart—physically, mentally, and spiritually—all because of this one modern obsession. We think technology gives us constant access to one another, but it's just an illusion of presence. It's purely informational.
The more advanced our tech gets and the more we lean on these digital connections, the less actual intimacy and closeness we have left.

That's where the lack of trust comes from. No real human connection plus zero time spent together equals zero trust.
Lawrence Bailey77 Lawrence Bailey77 Regular
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#11 ·
Michael Sanders10 said:Over the last few years, I’ve been struck by how drastically the circle of trust among people seems to be shrinking. What worries me most is that this erosion has started to seep into even the closest friendships. Have you all noticed this shift in your own lives? How exactly are you maintaining your friendships and nurturing that mutual sense of trust?...

Personally, I’ve observed lately that there's an influx of accounts with fewer than ten posts jumping in to start threads... and if I dare to push my analysis further or offer my actual OPINION, those wretched conclusions get scrubbed immediately. So much for free speech; it feels like pure censorship to me.

Trust levels: down by one.🙂
Nicholas Gonzalez8 Nicholas Gonzalez8 Regular
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joined Feb 2015
#12 ·
Michael Sanders10 said:Over the last few years, I’ve been struck by how drastically the circle of trust among people seems to be shrinking. What worries me most is that this erosion has started to seep into even the closest friendships. Have you all noticed this shift in your own lives? How exactly are you maintaining your friendships and nurturing that mutual sense of trust?...

Honestly, I think it all boils down to who we are as individuals and the specific crowds we choose to hang out with. Personally, I’ve actually been seeing more openness and trust lately—it's almost the opposite. I’ll meet someone totally new and just click instantly, like we've been buddies since grade school, and within thirty minutes we're deep in conversation about everything under the sun, including all the heavy secrets.
Michael Sanders10 Michael Sanders10 NewcomerOP
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joined May 2014
#13 ·
At the end of the day, we’re all just human beings—blood and bone under the skin. I truly believe there is a profound importance in focusing on our own personal growth, while simultaneously looking for the best qualities in others and encouraging them to excel in their own strengths. One can only hope that, eventually, they realize your only intention was to see them thrive.
Paul Thompson3 Paul Thompson3 Active Member
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joined Mar 2015
#14 ·
If I’d known then what I know now—I wouldn't have lowered my guard for a second.
The secret to staying happy among the masses? Just view them as entertainment—a simple give-and-take arrangement while it lasts. Thinking you can actually offer someone your genuine self or some deep honesty is a total waste of time.
Honestly, whoever manages to find a real friend is lucky; all I've ever met were business associates.
Friendship is a sacrifice, just like love. But let's be real—human nature dictates people will always choose to sacrifice someone else rather than themselves.
Brothers-in-arms—those are your true friends. Everything else is just business.
Kenneth Ramirez5 Kenneth Ramirez5 Member
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joined Oct 2014
#15 ·
I don't actually believe that trust and sincerity among people are on the decline—not really. It feels the same as it always has, if you think about it. We just change on an individual level, and because we've had some "bad" experiences lately, we tend to perceive things through that lens. But honestly, those are just our own failed projections and expectations playing tricks on us. If we choose friends who aren't quite on the same wavelength—people we’re essentially out of sync with—then yeah, trust starts to erode. But if we pick people who align with what we expect, then trust remains perfectly fine. So, who's actually at fault here? Is it the passage of time? Society? An economic crisis? Or is it just us?
ruggedtinker8 ruggedtinker8 Newcomer
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#16 ·
Paul Thompson3 said:If I’d known then what I know now—I wouldn't have lowered my guard for a second.
The secret to staying happy among the masses? Just view them as entertainment—a simple give-and-take arrangement while it lasts. Thinking you can actually offer someone your genuine self or some deep honesty is a total waste of time.
Honestly, whoever manages to find a real friend is lucky; all I've ever met were business associates.
Friendship is a sacrifice, just like love. But let's be real—human nature dictates people will always choose to sacrifice someone else rather than themselves.
Brothers-in-arms—those are your true friends. Everything else is just business.

I couldn't agree more. That’s exactly how I see things now. If only I’d figured this out ten years ago,
but hey, life is a teacher, and unfortunately, the tuition is expensive.
ruggedtinker8 ruggedtinker8 Newcomer
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#17 ·
Kenneth Ramirez5 said:I don't actually believe that trust and sincerity among people are on the decline—not really. It feels the same as it always has, if you think about it. We just change on an individual level, and because we've had some "bad" experiences lately, we tend to perceive things through that lens. But honestly, those are just our own failed projections and expectations playing tricks on us. If we choose friends who aren't quite on the same wavelength—people we’re essentially out of sync with—then yeah, trust starts to erode. But if we pick people who align with what we expect, then trust remains perfectly fine. So, who's actually at fault here? Is it the passage of time? Society? An economic crisis? Or is it just us?

It’s always a lack of experience, really. Plus, expecting too much from people who just don't have the character to deliver.
Angela Gray12 Angela Gray12 Member
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#18 ·
If there’s one thing I’ve learned in this life, it’s that the people I hit it off with instantly—those folks who feel like old friends from minute one—are usually the ones who don't stick around. Maybe I leaned in too fast. Too much trust, too much honesty, too much opening up right out of the gate. But looking back, the math never adds up; the vulnerability was always lopsided. It was just me being an idiot and acting naive.

On the flip side, the people where things were awkward at first? Those people where we had to work through some friction, maybe a misunderstanding or just a general lack of vibe during the introduction... those are the people I actually have solid relationships with today.
It’s clear to me now that we actually put in the work to understand and accept one another. That mutual effort to build a friendship means a hell of a lot more to me than those "easy" connections built on empty promises and words that clearly carry zero weight for them.

I don't have a massive circle of friends, but honestly, I'm fine with that. I’d much rather give 100% of my time and myself to a couple of real people than try to please a crowd of a hundred individuals who couldn't care less about me if their lives depended on it.

I used to have this mindset where I wouldn't expect anything in return—just give everything I had and ask for nothing. Well, that bit me in the ass more than a few times. Now, I just cut my losses. If I see a relationship—any kind of relationship—heading in the wrong direction, or if I realize I'm the only one trying to keep the engine running, I walk. I’d much rather be alone than feel lonely while standing right next to someone else.

I don't let people in easily, and once they're in, they aren't easy to shake. I tell people that upfront. But even then, one small thing—if it's real enough—can tear my guard down or slam it shut again. And when it's down? I'm the type of person who would take a bullet or a knife to the throat for you.
If someone decides to screw me over or play me for a fool, I’ll endure it for a little while. Mostly because I'm still stupid enough to care about someone who acts like they give a damn. I’ll take it and take it, but eventually, I snap. And when I do, there is no turning back. I don't just burn the bridge; I blow it up, douse the wreckage in gasoline, and once it's just a pile of ash, I sweep it up and bury it like it never existed.
My feelings for that person might never truly vanish, but once I figure out who they really are and how they operate... the second chance is gone. Forever.
We can be civil. I’ll step in if you need help with something, sure. But the friendship? The trust? That part is dead and buried.

Look, I know I can be difficult. But if I’m willing to accept someone exactly as they are, flaws and all—and if those flaws don't bother me (hell, sometimes I even find them endearing)—then I won't let that person dump their frustrations or their guilt onto me just because they messed up.

I’m not afraid of my own company, and I’ve never needed anyone in my life. But there are certain people I wanted to share it with—the highs, the lows, the laughter, and the silence. Unfortunately, those same people only needed me for a specific purpose or a specific timeframe. And once that time was up, they moved on.

People distance themselves and pretend they don't care, even when they're dying to connect. They're terrified of showing their vulnerable side or letting their true face show because they think nobody will want them that way. Fear turns us into the worst possible versions of ourselves.
I think that’s why I clicked so well with the people who were hard to get along with initially. They showed me their real selves right away. They were angry, frustrated, maybe even arrogant. But I was able to see past the armor and recognize the actual person underneath. Every day, I discover a new virtue or a new flaw that makes that person even more real to me.

Trust is incredibly hard to build, but it only takes one tiny thing to watch it all go up in smoke. It all comes down to how we react when someone tests us or pokes us exactly where it hurts the most.😁
Lawrence Bailey77 Lawrence Bailey77 Regular
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joined Mar 2015
#19 ·
Angela Gray12 said:If there’s one thing I’ve learned in this life, it’s that the people I hit it off with instantly—those folks who feel like old friends from minute one—are usually the ones who don't stick around. Maybe I leaned in too fast. Too much trust, too much honesty, too much opening up right out of the gate. But looking back, the math never adds up; the vulnerability was always lopsided. It was just me being an idiot and acting naive.

On the flip side, the people where things were awkward at first? Those people where we had to work through some friction, maybe a misunderstanding or just a general lack of vibe during the introduction... those are the people I actually have solid relationships with today.
It’s clear to me now that we actually put in the work to understand and accept one another. That mutual effort to build a friendship means a hell of a lot more to me than those "easy" connections built on empty promises and words that clearly carry zero weight for them.

I don't have a massive circle of friends, but honestly, I'm fine with that. I’d much rather give 100% of my time and myself to a couple of real people than try to please a crowd of a hundred individuals who couldn't care less about me if their lives depended on it.

I used to have this mindset where I wouldn't expect anything in return—just give everything I had and ask for nothing. Well, that bit me in the ass more than a few times. Now, I just cut my losses. If I see a relationship—any kind of relationship—heading in the wrong direction, or if I realize I'm the only one trying to keep the engine running, I walk. I’d much rather be alone than feel lonely while standing right next to someone else.

I don't let people in easily, and once they're in, they aren't easy to shake. I tell people that upfront. But even then, one small thing—if it's real enough—can tear my guard down or slam it shut again. And when it's down? I'm the type of person who would take a bullet or a knife to the throat for you.
If someone decides to screw me over or play me for a fool, I’ll endure it for a little while. Mostly because I'm still stupid enough to care about someone who acts like they give a damn. I’ll take it and take it, but eventually, I snap. And when I do, there is no turning back. I don't just burn the bridge; I blow it up, douse the wreckage in gasoline, and once it's just a pile of ash, I sweep it up and bury it like it never existed.
My feelings for that person might never truly vanish, but once I figure out who they really are and how they operate... the second chance is gone. Forever.
We can be civil. I’ll step in if you need help with something, sure. But the friendship? The trust? That part is dead and buried.

Look, I know I can be difficult. But if I’m willing to accept someone exactly as they are, flaws and all—and if those flaws don't bother me (hell, sometimes I even find them endearing)—then I won't let that person dump their frustrations or their guilt onto me just because they messed up.

I’m not afraid of my own company, and I’ve never needed anyone in my life. But there are certain people I wanted to share it with—the highs, the lows, the laughter, and the silence. Unfortunately, those same people only needed me for a specific purpose or a specific timeframe. And once that time was up, they moved on.

People distance themselves and pretend they don't care, even when they're dying to connect. They're terrified of showing their vulnerable side or letting their true face show because they think nobody will want them that way. Fear turns us into the worst possible versions of ourselves.
I think that’s why I clicked so well with the people who were hard to get along with initially. They showed me their real selves right away. They were angry, frustrated, maybe even arrogant. But I was able to see past the armor and recognize the actual person underneath. Every day, I discover a new virtue or a new flaw that makes that person even more real to me.

Trust is incredibly hard to build, but it only takes one tiny thing to watch it all go up in smoke. It all comes down to how we react when someone tests us or pokes us exactly where it hurts the most.😁

I appreciate you sharing your perspective and your personal history on this... I suspect that genuine people like that are becoming quite rare these days.

Anyway, I hope we don't end up clashing if you decide to disagree with me.😁
Keith Lewis13 Keith Lewis13 Newcomer
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#20 ·
The level of trust you place in others really boils down to two things: how deeply you actually understand the individual standing in front of you, and your overall grasp of human psychology.

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