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Susan James Susan James Veteran
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Richard Morris43 said:You honestly wouldn't believe it, but there are actually parents out there who flat-out deny their kid is struggling with reading or writing. Like, they just refuse to see it. In our district, we have a speech therapist right there at the elementary school, and the teacher—straight up from the start of the second semester—began referring kids over to them. I’m talking about first graders here, which is wild if you think about it. Some of these parents went absolutely ballistic, acting like it was some kind of personal insult, all because their kids are technically "good students." As if being a straight-A student somehow makes you immune to learning disabilities, right? What even is that logic?

Susan Martin4 said:Honestly, even in our local preschools, they won't let kids get speech therapy if it's offered. It’s just one more thing that makes sense to no one. I can't say I'm surprised anymore by any of this.

If a parent is told their child needs to see a speech therapist, there really isn't much point in overthinking it or stressing out. It’s just one of those things you have to do. You get the evaluation done, and then you make sure you stay consistent with the treatment sessions. It’s all about giving the kid the best shot at catching up.
If a parent ignores medical advice—especially when that care is physically accessible and free—it really crosses the line into medical neglect. I remember a friend of mine once who struggled to get their toddler to see a pediatrician despite having full coverage through her employer, and it was such a stressful situation for everyone involved. At the end of the day, if the resources are right there and available at no cost, ignoring them just isn't okay.
There are actually specific protocols in place for preschools and elementary schools if a child isn't able to attend their scheduled treatments.

Of course, you can't just find these guidelines posted around the hallways or handed out casually. It’s more formal than that—you really need to call the parents in for an official meeting and make sure everything is properly documented in the minutes.
Carl Bishop2 Carl Bishop2 Active Member
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#1042 ·
And if they just choose to ignore it—well, then nobody loses a thing.
Susan James Susan James Veteran
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#1043 ·
Carl Bishop2 said:And if they just choose to ignore it—well, then nobody loses a thing.

Actually, it does affect people. If a teacher sees—and truly knows—that a parent is ignoring or neglecting a child's health needs, they have a responsibility to report that neglect to Child Protective Services.
It’s just that there is so much paperwork involved that most people would rather not rock the boat.

School nurses, during routine physicals, are very diligent about reporting to the state when a kid hasn't stayed up to date on their vaccinations (and not every parent gets through that process without some friction, which is totally fine). We really should see more of that same effort regarding mental health. When they see a child walk in, they can tell a lot by their condition—some kids come from homes with zero socialization or developmental issues, while others might have attended preschool and seen a speech therapist but then missed all their follow-up treatments.

It’s one thing to complain that schools lack speech therapists (and honestly, many do), or that the waitlists are endless (which, let's face it, they are), but where specialists *are* available, there shouldn't be any excuses.
A child who enters school completely unprepared isn't the only one who suffers; it slows down the entire classroom. Teachers struggle to manage them, especially since they're often juggling four or five different instructors, and why is this happening? Because a parent insists everything is fine. But it's not the parent's job to make that assessment.
Professionals spend years in training specifically so they can recognize these signs.
Susan Martin4 Susan Martin4 Active Member
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These are just some preschool exercises. A few parents were basically saying, "No thanks," when the school asked if they could run them.

I told my son we don't need to bother since he’s doing private tutoring outside of school anyway. My daughter goes to the sessions too, though she also has her own private help. 😁
Susan James Susan James Veteran
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Susan Martin4 said:These are just some preschool exercises. A few parents were basically saying, "No thanks," when the school asked if they could run them.

I told my son we don't need to bother since he’s doing private tutoring outside of school anyway. My daughter goes to the sessions too, though she also has her own private help. 😁

Honestly, all these parental permissions drive me crazy. It feels like they ask us for permission for every single little thing.
But look, if you write up a formal recommendation showing a child needs speech therapy and the parent refuses, you just notify the local school district administration. If it's something necessary that can be handled during school hours and the parent says no, you just follow the official protocol.
Richard Morris43 Richard Morris43 Active MemberOP
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Honestly, it’s just brutal on the kid, and frankly, it’s exhausting for the teacher too. You've got a student who is genuinely struggling just to get through basic writing and studying, right? They need teachers who can actually sit down and give them some dedicated one-on-one time, but instead, the curriculum just keeps piling up like a mountain.
And then you have certain parents who swoop in and flat-out refuse to let an evaluation happen. It’s unbelievable.
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 Veteran
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Susan James said:Honestly, all these parental permissions drive me crazy. It feels like they ask us for permission for every single little thing.
But look, if you write up a formal recommendation showing a child needs speech therapy and the parent refuses, you just notify the local school district administration. If it's something necessary that can be handled during school hours and the parent says no, you just follow the official protocol.

unfortunately, we just have to deal with it.
Kimberly Green50 Kimberly Green50 Member
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Susan James said:I honestly think that to keep everything in balance out there in the universe—especially when you're staring down a massive pile of things being pushed back—you really need to get someone enrolled a bit earlier. It just makes sense. 🤷
Honestly, I’ve been saying this for a while now: we really need to set some clear boundaries on when people are required to head out. In my opinion, we should stick to that March 31st deadline—or even move it up to January 1st if we wanted to be proactive—but then establish a sort of grace period from April through August. During those months, people could go in for their check-ups if they needed to, but the actual departure shouldn't be mandatory. It just feels like a more balanced way to handle things.

If the preschool teaching staff decides a child has basically outgrown the curriculum—meaning they’ve finished the pre-K program, mastered all the foundational reading and writing skills, and are hitting all their social and emotional milestones perfectly—then they’re ready to head off to elementary school. Of course, there might be some exceptions. If a pediatrician looks at the charts and sees concerns like being significantly underweight, having stunted growth, or dealing with chronic health issues or other medical diagnoses, that’s when you might want to sit down and seriously consider holding them back for an extra year.

Whenever there’s a transition coming up, I think it’s really important to sit down with the parents and have a real conversation about what the child will actually be doing during that gap year at preschool. You really have to ask if the facility can truly meet the child's specific needs. For instance, could they accommodate extra sessions or specialized treatments that might be harder to squeeze into a regular school schedule later on? It’s all about making sure the support system stays consistent during that bridge period.
I’m going to be a little blunt here, but delaying school just so they can play more feels like a mistake. Honestly, if he hasn't had much experience in daycare or preschool, this is basically neglecting his development. We can't shield children from every single frustration or tearful moment forever. Let's face it—life is tough sometimes. It’s perfectly normal for kids to cry or get angry occasionally. Even if a child hits all their developmental milestones early on, we can't protect them from reality indefinitely. They have to deal with peers who might find it funny when someone trips or makes a mistake. Sure, it’s definitely easier to practice those social lessons in preschool rather than waiting until elementary school, but it isn't impossible to learn later on. Part of growing up is learning how to handle things over and over again as life throws new situations your way.

This is for some other topic, for example. ovuWait, I actually have to say this here:

Lost in space. I’ve been thinking lately about how we can really enrich our educational content to make it more engaging for students. It’s one thing to follow the curriculum, but it's another thing entirely to breathe life into the material so it actually sticks. I remember back when I was in college, the professors who truly inspired me were the ones who didn't just read from a textbook, but brought in real-world examples and interactive elements that made the lessons feel relevant. I think we should aim for that same kind of depth—finding ways to add layers to our teaching tools that spark curiosity rather than just checking off boxes. So, imagine this: a kid finishes all their math homework way ahead of the rest of the class, and instead of getting a break, the teacher hands them even more work. I'm not talking about just cranking out twenty more of the exact same problems, either. I mean actual challenges—complex addition, brain teasers, and logic puzzles that go beyond the standard curriculum. It’s like giving them extra math on top of the extra math they already signed up for!
Maybe they could get an extra book from the reading list? Or perhaps we could give them permission to dive into some magazines—like National Geographic Kids or Highlights—let them read comics during free time, or even let them get some sketching done once they've knocked out their regular assignments or shown a genuine interest in a particular topic.
It’s not just about making sure he doesn't get bored; it’s really about giving him that extra push to actually tap into his potential. He clearly has a lot of talent there, so providing that kind of stimulation could be a total game-changer for his development.
Now that computer science is part of the curriculum starting in first grade, there are so many great coding challenges from Beaver that we can give our kids to work on at home!
I’m not sure how this guide was actually delivered to you all—hopefully, it wasn't just handed over as a plain sheet of paper—but I really feel like we need to be more direct with parents and teachers. It needs to be crystal clear when a first grader is clearly bored out of their mind because the curriculum just isn't hitting the mark for them.
If the teacher isn't able—or just doesn't want to—to handle this, then we're looking at a much deeper issue that won't be fixed by just talking about after-school activities. Honestly, if I’m being brave enough to say it, this situation might actually make things worse. It feels like the teacher is on that same track when she tells you there are too many extracurriculars; she likely realizes the child is progressing at their own pace elsewhere. They're tackling challenging, fun projects outside of class, yet here they are being told to sit still and listen to things they've already mastered. It's easy to lose a student that way, and even easier to lose that connection with them. In my experience, it's often simpler for a teacher to tell parents, "Don't overstimulate him," rather than admitting the classroom environment isn't meeting his needs, using his exhaustion as an excuse.

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