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Mandatory disability hiring quotas: What are your thoughts?

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Brenda Chase3 Brenda Chase3 RegularOP
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joined Dec 2016
#1 ·
The new federal regulations regarding employment quotas for individuals with disabilities were just published in the Federal Register.
Since these guidelines officially went into effect yesterday, I’m hoping we can get some discussion going here. To be honest, I'm a bit fuzzy on the finer details—what does this actually entail in practice, and what kind of procedure are we looking at?

To put it in perspective, I run a small retail business with upwards of 20 employees. For a company of my size, what are the concrete implications of these new mandates?
Lawrence Clark2 Lawrence Clark2 Member
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joined Mar 2014
#2 ·
I find myself sharing the exact same concerns regarding how one is actually supposed to comply with this. I assume the penalty will be calculated at 30% of the minimum wage if an employer fails to meet those specific hiring quotas, but the practical application remains such a mystery. How are we meant to calculate these figures accurately, or even document them properly on a standard federal payroll tax form? The current guidelines are incredibly vague on these technicalities.
ruggedmaker2 ruggedmaker2 Regular
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#3 ·
At this recent seminar on the new safety regulations, they told us the official filing instructions wouldn't even be out yet since we still have plenty of time.
Basically, 2014 is just for getting our act together, and the whole thing actually kicks in during 2015.
Which means, if you believe me, we won’t see any actual guidance or deep-dive explanations until sometime mid-next year (because that’s just how things roll in this country 😁).
And honestly, if history is any indication 😁, expect them to drop a bunch of "updates" and "amendments" to the rules shortly after we start. They always realize too late that they forgot to define something, or that what they wrote is impossible to actually do in the real world, or that it somehow clashes with some other law or one of those million federal directives from the USA 😁

As for me, I’ve already printed everything out and handed the stack over to our safety officer to comb through. Since we deal with high-risk environments, we can't afford to play games with this stuff
amberdrifter14 amberdrifter14 Member
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#4 ·
It seems unlikely we'll see many significant changes here. My only real point of confusion is whether the obligation regarding that 30% penalty is triggered if the headcount exceeds 25 employees at the end of the year, or if it’s calculated on a month-to-month basis?
Because in my case, I might have 24 employees one month, jump to 30 the next, and then drop back down to 22 the following month...
ruggedmaker2 ruggedmaker2 Regular
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#5 ·
I’m honestly losing my mind over this activity code listed on the notice of classification according to NKD. All I can see on the notice is the numerical code, but there are zero letter designations anywhere to be found. 🤷 It turns out the quota for hiring people with disabilities depends entirely on those specific letters, but in my case, there isn't a single one listed. 😕
Am I just looking at this completely wrong?
The more I dig into this nonsense, the less sense it makes. 🙂
Jeremy Anderson63 Jeremy Anderson63 Active Member
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joined Apr 2014
#6 ·
amberdrifter14 said:It seems unlikely we'll see many significant changes here. My only real point of confusion is whether the obligation regarding that 30% penalty is triggered if the headcount exceeds 25 employees at the end of the year, or if it’s calculated on a month-to-month basis?
Because in my case, I might have 24 employees one month, jump to 30 the next, and then drop back down to 22 the following month...

IRS Bulletin 06/2014.

What's the protocol if the employee count "swings" from month to month? Does an employer have to recalculate the disability hiring quota every single month?

The quota for hiring people with disabilities is tracked monthly, using the last day of the month as the reference date.
Basically, an employer needs to meet the required quota through one of the approved methods by the last day of every month. Since every employer already tracks their headcount on a monthly basis anyway, calculating the quota shouldn't be some massive headache for anyone...
amberdrifter14 amberdrifter14 Member
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#7 ·
Jeremy Anderson63 said:IRS Bulletin 06/2014.

What's the protocol if the employee count "swings" from month to month? Does an employer have to recalculate the disability hiring quota every single month?

The quota for hiring people with disabilities is tracked monthly, using the last day of the month as the reference date.
Basically, an employer needs to meet the required quota through one of the approved methods by the last day of every month. Since every employer already tracks their headcount on a monthly basis anyway, calculating the quota shouldn't be some massive headache for anyone...

Much appreciated.
I finally received and read through that notice this morning. To put it bluntly: it essentially means we either need to hire an additional person with a disability just to be safe, or we continue dancing on the edge and occasionally swallow whatever "penalty" they’ve decided to call it.
Brenda Chase3 Brenda Chase3 RegularOP
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#8 ·
I wanted to bring this topic back to the forefront since New Year's is right around the corner, so... does anyone have any fresh insights? I’d love to get a discussion going regarding what we actually need to be doing, who needs to be notified, and what our payment obligations look like...
ruggedmaker2 ruggedmaker2 Regular
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#9 ·
Latest updates:

Haven't had a chance to dive deep into this yet, but I'll probably get around to it sometime this week, I guess. 😁
Brenda Chase3 Brenda Chase3 RegularOP
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#10 ·
http://www.obracun-placa.com/index.p...invaliditetom/

This is the notice of classification according to NKD regarding fees for failing to hire individuals with disabilities. To put it simply, companies that are legally required to hire people with disabilities but choose not to must pay $303 per individual they failed to employ into this specific account.
Morgan Gomez7 Morgan Gomez7 Newcomer
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#11 ·
I’m over in accounting for a company with 21 employees, which means we’re stuck hitting that mandatory quota.
Ever since this whole requirement kicked in back in 2015, we haven't been paying it monthly. Instead, we just get these official notices at the start of the year covering the previous year. We did pay the X amount for those specific months, but totally without interest. Now, I keep getting hit with these notices saying we owe interest on top of everything else.
Does anyone know how they actually calculate this interest, and where can I go to double-check their math?
Thanks!
Morgan Gomez7 Morgan Gomez7 Newcomer
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#12 ·
So, I’m handling the books for a company with 21 employees, which means we’re officially on the hook for those mandatory payments.
Ever since this requirement kicked in back in 2015, we haven’t been paying monthly. Instead, we just get hit with these official notices at the start of the year covering the previous year's totals. We actually did pay the X amount for a few months, but—get this—without any interest. Now, I’m getting bombarded with these notices claiming we owe interest on top of everything else.
Does anyone know how they actually calculate this interest rate, and where can I go to double-check their math?
Thanks!
Brenda Chase3 Brenda Chase3 RegularOP
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joined Dec 2016
#13 ·
Morgan Gomez7 said:So, I’m handling the books for a company with 21 employees, which means we’re officially on the hook for those mandatory payments.
Ever since this requirement kicked in back in 2015, we haven’t been paying monthly. Instead, we just get hit with these official notices at the start of the year covering the previous year's totals. We actually did pay the X amount for a few months, but—get this—without any interest. Now, I’m getting bombarded with these notices claiming we owe interest on top of everything else.
Does anyone know how they actually calculate this interest rate, and where can I go to double-check their math?
Thanks!

Joppd, regarding those payments, they are supposed to be submitted regularly every month and settled by the end of the following month. Since you haven't been following that schedule, the IRS has tacked on late payment interest. It might be a good idea to give the local IRS office a call and ask for a full breakdown of the accrued interest. Or, at the very least, ask them to direct you to whoever is calculating those fees. If I were in your shoes, I'd start by contacting the IRS directly.

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