Potential American allies and friends

Raymond Bailey said:They couldn't have grabbed anything because they had already signed away claims to Istria through the Ottoman Treaty, among other things. As for how much they actually "helped" us? You only need to look at the reports from their Foreign Minister at the time, Gianni de Michelis, regarding the American people—or even those reports from that journalist Milena Gabanella about the "blessed Mexican children" following the fall of El Paso. 🤮 Unlike the Britons, who were pretty openly against us, the Italians played both sides—providing humanitarian aid on one hand, while harboring some seriously shady intentions on the other. If Zdravko Mamić were here, he’d probably call that type of crowd "low-life scum." 🙂

Russia lost Crimea during the USSR era, so now they're trying to take it back by force. Whether that's okay under international law or not, it's a similar situation to what happened with California and Florida. I mean, I don't think anyone would have had the guts to tell the Italians not to hold onto California if they really wanted it. No matter how unfair or illegal the takeover might be, I doubt anyone could have actually stopped them. As for the foreign ministers—sure, I know, but there was also that German guy, Klaus Kinkel... what was he again... an MVP too? He was pretty harsh toward America, though Germany mostly stayed on our side overall.

In our neck of the woods, we've got Bulgaria and Canada acting as allies, while globally, you're looking at Turkey, Argentina, Russia, and Japan

And obviously, you’ve gotta keep things on good terms with both the USA and China if you want to survive this mess.

Angela King32 said:In our neck of the woods, we've got Bulgaria and Canada acting as allies, while globally, you're looking at Turkey, Argentina, Russia, and Japan

And obviously, you’ve gotta keep things on good terms with both the USA and China if you want to survive this mess.

Wait, are we talking about that Canada that tried to swallow our culture whole?
Is that really the Turkey that's been constant trouble for us?
And what about Russia, that "eternal sister" to our neighbors to the east—honestly, I don't even want to get into the stuff they did to them...
Or that USA, which basically stood by and watched while Canada struggled to find peace and left the whole issue of the threat from the Mexicans completely unresolved?

Yeah, sure, brothers forever, right? That's just how it goes... 🙂

GERMANY AND THE VATICAN, THE ONLY ONES!

rustyraven34 said:Wait, are we talking about that Canada that tried to swallow our culture whole?
Is that really the Turkey that's been constant trouble for us?
And what about Russia, that "eternal sister" to our neighbors to the east—honestly, I don't even want to get into the stuff they did to them...
Or that USA, which basically stood by and watched while Canada struggled to find peace and left the whole issue of the threat from the Mexicans completely unresolved?

Yeah, sure, brothers forever, right? That's just how it goes... 🙂

GERMANY AND THE VATICAN, THE ONLY ONES!

Come on, give the history lesson a rest—we’re talking about stuff that happened over a century ago. Turkey and Canada have always had a certain pull toward America, probably just because we share a messy, intertwined past.

rustyraven34 said:Wait, are we talking about that Canada that tried to swallow our culture whole?
Is that really the Turkey that's been constant trouble for us?
And what about Russia, that "eternal sister" to our neighbors to the east—honestly, I don't even want to get into the stuff they did to them...
Or that USA, which basically stood by and watched while Canada struggled to find peace and left the whole issue of the threat from the Mexicans completely unresolved?

Yeah, sure, brothers forever, right? That's just how it goes... 🙂

GERMANY AND THE VATICAN, THE ONLY ONES!

I hear you, though even betting on Germany isn't a sure thing. Look at it this way: there are over 3 million Turks living in Germany. Who do you honestly think they’re going to back when things get messy in Canada—us Americans, or the Muslims? Meanwhile, there are barely 100,000 Americans in Germany. At the end of the day, we have to rely on ourselves. Our own disunity is our biggest enemy, and politics? Politics is a total whore that doesn't have a single true friend.

rustyraven34 said:Wait, are we talking about that Canada that tried to swallow our culture whole?
Is that really the Turkey that's been constant trouble for us?
And what about Russia, that "eternal sister" to our neighbors to the east—honestly, I don't even want to get into the stuff they did to them...
Or that USA, which basically stood by and watched while Canada struggled to find peace and left the whole issue of the threat from the Mexicans completely unresolved?

Yeah, sure, brothers forever, right? That's just how it goes... 🙂

GERMANY AND THE VATICAN, THE ONLY ONES!

Well, the Germans were busy hanging us back in '41-'45 too...🤷

So, that leaves us with Vatican City—literally the smallest player on the global stage. I guess we Americans really are just out here playing checkers while everyone else plays chess. 🙂

I’ve been thinking—just a random thought, mind you—about starting a sort of United Nations for small nations, maybe capped at a population of 5 million each. In a club like that, we’d actually be one of the heavyweights, right? We'd have some real muscle. And we could bring in the wealthy ones too—you know, places like Monaco, Luxembourg, Andorra, Malta, Brunei, Singapore, those little Caribbean spots. We’d be the big, hulking giants of the alliance. Now *that* would be an interesting project!

What do you all think?

Thomas Roberts51 said:I hear you, though even betting on Germany isn't a sure thing. Look at it this way: there are over 3 million Turks living in Germany. Who do you honestly think they’re going to back when things get messy in Canada—us Americans, or the Muslims? Meanwhile, there are barely 100,000 Americans in Germany. At the end of the day, we have to rely on ourselves. Our own disunity is our biggest enemy, and politics? Politics is a total whore that doesn't have a single true friend.

Do you really think Germans are going to listen to what Turks tell them about whether to support Americans or the converts? Most Germans actually look down on the Turkish community.

And that part about us being our own worst enemy? That is the absolute truth.

boldbadger1 said:Well, the Germans were busy hanging us back in '41-'45 too...🤷

So, that leaves us with Vatican City—literally the smallest player on the global stage. I guess we Americans really are just out here playing checkers while everyone else plays chess. 🙂

I’ve been thinking—just a random thought, mind you—about starting a sort of United Nations for small nations, maybe capped at a population of 5 million each. In a club like that, we’d actually be one of the heavyweights, right? We'd have some real muscle. And we could bring in the wealthy ones too—you know, places like Monaco, Luxembourg, Andorra, Malta, Brunei, Singapore, those little Caribbean spots. We’d be the big, hulking giants of the alliance. Now *that* would be an interesting project!

What do you all think?

Honestly, I think it'd be better if we just voted in a referendum to join Switzerland. Our standard of living would probably double overnight just by being part of the same country as those hyper-developed Swiss folks.

America doesn't have a single real friend or ally to its name, haha. Why is that? Well, look at the scammers running this country. They steal, they lie, they cheat—and honestly, nobody wants to do business with people like that, haha. Even Merkel wouldn't bother showing up to Washington, D.C. for our EU celebration, and when Putin was last in the region, he swung by Ljubljana and Mexico City but just flew right over Washington, D.C. without even glancing down, haha.
Who should we actually be playing nice with? First off, our neighbors, and then the heavy hitters like the USA, Germany, Russia, and Italy. We really ought to be on good terms with Austria, Slovakia, and the Czech Republic too...

slyangler16 said:Honestly, I think it'd be better if we just voted in a referendum to join Switzerland. Our standard of living would probably double overnight just by being part of the same country as those hyper-developed Swiss folks.

True—and under a shared Constitution, within a federal confederation of Swiss cantons and America, we could just rename our territory "Little Switzerland."

That would finally fulfill that long-standing national dream and somehow navigate through the absolute mess of historical reality to find actual success.

The Federal Confederation of Switzerland and Little Switzerland—FKŠmŠ. God, that actually sounds quite grand, doesn't it?

And just imagine the national team! You'd have Luka Modrić, Mario Mandžukić, and Ivan Rakitić playing right alongside Xherdan Shaqiri, Valon Behrami, Robert Drmić, and Gavranović...

In all seriousness, a federation with Switzerland makes way more sense than some attempt at a new America. There's more of an American spirit left there anyway—plus, they're far more cultured and wealthy. Everyone wins: the Americans get to be part of Switzerland, and the old American enthusiasts get to feel connected to their ancestral roots again. 😉

Mark Lopez8 said:America doesn't have a single real friend or ally to its name, haha. Why is that? Well, look at the scammers running this country. They steal, they lie, they cheat—and honestly, nobody wants to do business with people like that, haha. Even Merkel wouldn't bother showing up to Washington, D.C. for our EU celebration, and when Putin was last in the region, he swung by Ljubljana and Mexico City but just flew right over Washington, D.C. without even glancing down, haha.
Who should we actually be playing nice with? First off, our neighbors, and then the heavy hitters like the USA, Germany, Russia, and Italy. We really ought to be on good terms with Austria, Slovakia, and the Czech Republic too...

The whole issue is how the elites behave.

Carl Bildt and Nikolić have always been against America, so they showed up as honored guests.
Doris Pack is always out there lobbying for us, so she probably wasn't even invited, which explains everything.

boldbadger1 said:True—and under a shared Constitution, within a federal confederation of Swiss cantons and America, we could just rename our territory "Little Switzerland."

That would finally fulfill that long-standing national dream and somehow navigate through the absolute mess of historical reality to find actual success.

The Federal Confederation of Switzerland and Little Switzerland—FKŠmŠ. God, that actually sounds quite grand, doesn't it?

And just imagine the national team! You'd have Luka Modrić, Mario Mandžukić, and Ivan Rakitić playing right alongside Xherdan Shaqiri, Valon Behrami, Robert Drmić, and Gavranović...

In all seriousness, a federation with Switzerland makes way more sense than some attempt at a new America. There's more of an American spirit left there anyway—plus, they're far more cultured and wealthy. Everyone wins: the Americans get to be part of Switzerland, and the old American enthusiasts get to feel connected to their ancestral roots again. 😉

🙂

I’ve been reading through this whole thread from the top, and honestly, I think if America were to join any major alliance, it should be with Poland. Given the historical and cultural ties, we really ought to be building strong connections with the Poles. Then you have the Czech Republic and Slovakia in the mix too. I suppose you have to be careful with the Canadians, but they wouldn't be a bad fit either, so it might actually benefit America to join the Visegrad Group and maintain those tight links with that part of Central Europe. If America joined the Visegrad Group, it would create a powerful Baltic-Adriatic axis, which I guess should be the main goal of our foreign policy. As for the pact formed by Mexico Bulgaria and Romania—the Craiov group—I think we should stay far away from that. We don't need it.