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Accounting for Sole Proprietors: Tax & Bookkeeping Tips

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Participants ruggedheron13rowdyhawk25shadowwalker79Robin Cook4Brenda Chase3stormybadger8placidlynx92Taylor Rogers2Henry Edwards33Lisa Hernandez5driftingfox24Robert Young4cosmictinker24Joshua Barrett31James Morgan21David Green642Kyle Rogers8Chris Murphy8Nicole Lee6fadedcrane92Thomas Brown50Keith Martinez5Nancy JonesCharles Stewart69 …
Nicole Lee6 Nicole Lee6 Regular
252 messages
joined Jun 2007
#201 ·
Brenda Chase3 said:You can actually bypass the need for an official transcript if you have the formal decision—basically, just a donation receipt. If you're donating through a local community center or a non-profit, they should be sending you a confirmation statement directly. It’s pretty straightforward. Sometimes small business owners will drop off their donations in cash rather than doing a bank transfer, so it won't show up on your digital statements. Personally, I have my donors send me a formal confirmation every single year without fail; I just attach those to my tax return and call it a day.

Well, nobody sends me anything 🙄 so when the IRS comes knocking, they demand I produce a physical copy of my bank statements.
placidlynx92 placidlynx92 Active Member
92 messages
joined Jan 2013
#202 ·
Frank Wells5 said:Hi everyone,
I was hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction regarding withdrawing from a general partnership business, as I’ve been scouring the web for guidance and haven't had much luck—my apologies if this has already been covered elsewhere. Here is the situation: we have a family-run small business that has been operating since 1992. It is currently a partnership between a father and his son, who joined as a co-owner back in 2010. Now, come May 26th, the father—who acts as the primary proprietor—is terminating the partnership agreement to step away entirely. This leaves the son as the sole owner, which necessitates a new Tax ID number...
So, here is my dilemma: does anyone know if I am handling this correctly? To be honest, the logic seems a bit skewed to me. The folks over at NOAA were insisting that to process the departure of the current partner, we need to deregister all the employees and then issue entirely new registrations and contracts for the remaining owner. On top of that, they suggested we deregister the business itself, which feels completely nonsensical to me. I mean, isn't it still the exact same entity? If we follow their lead, it essentially looks as though the son is opening a brand-new business from scratch, despite the fact that he’s been an official co-owner since 2010. Why on earth would the entire business registration need to be terminated? Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

It looks like each individual originally set up their own business entity first and then joined the joint venture. Each one carries their own registration number with the FDA and is registered separately with Social Security as well. If the employees were specifically tied to the father’s registration number, and he is now shuttering his side of the operation, then naturally, those employees have to be re-registered under the son's credentials.
cosmictinker24 cosmictinker24 Active Member
110 messages
joined Oct 2019
#203 ·
Nicole Lee6 said:And listen, make sure you grab a copy of that statement showing the donation payment immediately. You’re going to need to attach it to your Form 1040—if you don't, the IRS will just ignore it entirely. It won't fly without proof.😬

Of course I have the court order and the bank statement. 🙂
Frank Wells5 Frank Wells5 Member
10 messages
joined Feb 2012
#204 ·
placidlynx92, thanks so much—you’re spot on. I was actually getting a bit turned around by the whole process where the business entity seemingly signs off while the name and account number stay identical; it felt a little nonsensical at first, but if everything is above board, then I’m satisfied!
I have another question for the group, though. We ran into a bit of a situation recently where we issued an invoice for an initial down payment for some work. For reasons known only to my bosses, they went ahead and signed off on a final progress report prepared by the contractor on our behalf right after that first payment. Now, I'm sitting here staring at more invoices for subsequent down payments to cover the remaining balance, and I’m feeling a bit lost. Does anyone know the proper way to book this? Should I be voiding all those previous down payment invoices and just issuing one single final invoice? Or is that signed progress report essentially acting as the final invoice itself?
Charles Stewart69 Charles Stewart69 Member
26 messages
joined Jun 2010
#205 ·
Kyle Rogers8 said:The healthcare surcharge is at 15% as of April 1st, 2014.
Logically, you'd pay the April obligation by May 15th, 2014—but if they drag their feet with the paperwork again, it might be later...
Either way, the payment in May (covering April) should reflect the 15% rate.

So, my new notice finally showed up in my mailbox yesterday, which means I already paid the April contributions using the old rates, and I won't be hitting them with the new amount until the May payment. Anyway, does that mean I can just leave the April stuff as is since I already settled it, or am I going to have to cough up the difference later? I mean, seriously, whose fault is it if they can't get the official notices sent out on time? 🙂
Brenda Chase3 Brenda Chase3 Regular
367 messages
joined Dec 2016
#206 ·
Charles Stewart69 said:So, my new notice finally showed up in my mailbox yesterday, which means I already paid the April contributions using the old rates, and I won't be hitting them with the new amount until the May payment. Anyway, does that mean I can just leave the April stuff as is since I already settled it, or am I going to have to cough up the difference later? I mean, seriously, whose fault is it if they can't get the official notices sent out on time? 🙂

You'll have to pay the difference, otherwise you're just inviting unnecessary interest charges. There's really no way around it.
Charles Stewart69 Charles Stewart69 Member
26 messages
joined Jun 2010
#207 ·
Brenda Chase3 said:You'll have to pay the difference, otherwise you're just inviting unnecessary interest charges. There's really no way around it.

Ugh, I know, that's literally why I added the smiley face. But honestly, even if I tried to dodge the difference, an IRS agent would probably be blowing up my phone within minutes telling me I've got a 24-hour window to cover the debt before they start seizing everything I own. 🙂
Brenda Chase3 Brenda Chase3 Regular
367 messages
joined Dec 2016
#208 ·
Charles Stewart69 said:Ugh, I know, that's literally why I added the smiley face. But honestly, even if I tried to dodge the difference, an IRS agent would probably be blowing up my phone within minutes telling me I've got a 24-hour window to cover the debt before they start seizing everything I own. 🙂

Well, at least you've got an agent who stays on top of things. 😉 🤣
Robin Cook4 Robin Cook4 Active Member
70 messages
joined May 2012
#209 ·
Hey, can anyone tell me when you actually hit the threshold to register for sales tax at $76667? Like, am I supposed to notify the IRS right away, or do I just wait until the end of the year when I file my taxes?
Brenda Chase3 Brenda Chase3 Regular
367 messages
joined Dec 2016
#210 ·
Robin Cook4 said:Hey, can anyone tell me when you actually hit the threshold to register for sales tax at $76667? Like, am I supposed to notify the IRS right away, or do I just wait until the end of the year when I file my taxes?


It all comes down to the calendar year. Essentially, you don't need to file anything before the year wraps up, so you can continue operating outside the sales tax system until December 31st. However, don't lose sight of the timing here: once December 31st passes, you have to submit your application to join the sales tax system by January 15th. You cannot wait until February 28th to include it with your tax filing; you absolutely must get that request in no later than January 15th.
Keith Martinez5 Keith Martinez5 Active Member
167 messages
joined Mar 2014
#211 ·
I really need some quick advice here if anyone knows the drill—is it actually legal for me to issue an invoice in Euros? I’m currently billing a shipping company over in Germany, and the client is specifically asking for the invoice to be in Euros... so, what should my next move be?
Nicole Lee6 Nicole Lee6 Regular
252 messages
joined Jun 2007
#212 ·
Keith Martinez5 said:I really need some quick advice here if anyone knows the drill—is it actually legal for me to issue an invoice in Euros? I’m currently billing a shipping company over in Germany, and the client is specifically asking for the invoice to be in Euros... so, what should my next move be?

Just write the invoice in Dollars. Then, on the printed version or within the digital invoice itself (I know you use Synesis), just note the total amount in EUR based on the Federal Reserve mid-market exchange rate from the day you write it. That’s how I handle everything on my end.
Keith Martinez5 Keith Martinez5 Active Member
167 messages
joined Mar 2014
#213 ·
Nicole Lee6 said:Just write the invoice in Dollars. Then, on the printed version or within the digital invoice itself (I know you use Synesis), just note the total amount in EUR based on the Federal Reserve mid-market exchange rate from the day you write it. That’s how I handle everything on my end.

Thanks for the tip! I actually have one more question: is it possible for me to open, say, a foreign currency checking account? I'm asking because if we aren't supposed to be collecting payments directly in dollars, I'm a bit confused about where our foreign reserves would come from—especially since all outgoing payments can just be handled via conversion from a standard US dollar account. It's all a little fuzzy to me right now.
Nicole Lee6 Nicole Lee6 Regular
252 messages
joined Jun 2007
#214 ·
Keith Martinez5 said:Thanks for the tip! I actually have one more question: is it possible for me to open, say, a foreign currency checking account? I'm asking because if we aren't supposed to be collecting payments directly in dollars, I'm a bit confused about where our foreign reserves would come from—especially since all outgoing payments can just be handled via conversion from a standard US dollar account. It's all a little fuzzy to me right now.

Look, since you're receiving EUR from abroad, you'll have an active foreign currency account, but nowadays everything is consolidated under a single IBAN. It used to be that you had distinct account numbers for your local currency and your foreign currency accounts, but I'm not entirely sure how the current procedure works. Honestly, just go ask your bank what specific requirements you need to meet if you want to receive wire transfers in EUR from overseas, and see what they tell you. That applies to making payments in EUR as well.

The situation is that you receive EUR, but then you record everything in USD within the KPI. I take the EUR amount received, convert it using the Federal Reserve's mid-market exchange rate on the day of the deposit, and then I adjust the KPI entry by accounting for any exchange rate differences under Income/Expenses...
Keith Martinez5 Keith Martinez5 Active Member
167 messages
joined Mar 2014
#215 ·
Nicole Lee6 said:Look, since you're receiving EUR from abroad, you'll have an active foreign currency account, but nowadays everything is consolidated under a single IBAN. It used to be that you had distinct account numbers for your local currency and your foreign currency accounts, but I'm not entirely sure how the current procedure works. Honestly, just go ask your bank what specific requirements you need to meet if you want to receive wire transfers in EUR from overseas, and see what they tell you. That applies to making payments in EUR as well.

The situation is that you receive EUR, but then you record everything in USD within the KPI. I take the EUR amount received, convert it using the Federal Reserve's mid-market exchange rate on the day of the deposit, and then I adjust the KPI entry by accounting for any exchange rate differences under Income/Expenses...

As for the invoice itself, I issued it without sales tax and included a reverse charge clause—citing a specific section of the tax code, though I can't recall the exact number off the top of my head—since the invoice was sent to a corporation. I'm hoping I handled that correctly; I assume that covers the transfer of the tax liability (I haven't run into a situation like this before). How does this actually get reported on the sales tax forms? Is there anything else I need to do on my end? If I’ve missed a step somewhere, please let me know!🤷
Nicole Lee6 Nicole Lee6 Regular
252 messages
joined Jun 2007
#216 ·
Keith Martinez5 said:As for the invoice itself, I issued it without sales tax and included a reverse charge clause—citing a specific section of the tax code, though I can't recall the exact number off the top of my head—since the invoice was sent to a corporation. I'm hoping I handled that correctly; I assume that covers the transfer of the tax liability (I haven't run into a situation like this before). How does this actually get reported on the sales tax forms? Is there anything else I need to do on my end? If I’ve missed a step somewhere, please let me know!🤷

You absolutely have to make sure you get verification from the IRS that you're dealing with a legitimate tax ID number. There's no room for error there.

Which specific clause you decide to cite depends entirely on what exactly you billed them for. 🤷

If you’ve dialed in those parameters correctly, Synesis will handle the booking to your sales tax return automatically. Just don't forget that you still need to put together the aggregate report.
Keith Martinez5 Keith Martinez5 Active Member
167 messages
joined Mar 2014
#217 ·
Nicole Lee6 said:You absolutely have to make sure you get verification from the IRS that you're dealing with a legitimate tax ID number. There's no room for error there.

Which specific clause you decide to cite depends entirely on what exactly you billed them for. 🤷

If you’ve dialed in those parameters correctly, Synesis will handle the booking to your sales tax return automatically. Just don't forget that you still need to put together the aggregate report.

I just finished invoicing for that AC recharge job—I made sure to cite Section 17, Subsection 1 of the tax code to keep everything above board. I did a quick check over on Viasat, but honestly, I’m still a bit lost on which specific parameters actually need adjusting. I haven't even tackled the collective data entry yet, so I’m going to spend some time poking around and trying to figure it out myself first. If I hit a wall, though, I might give you a ring for some backup! Jane, thanks a million!
Keith Martinez5 Keith Martinez5 Active Member
167 messages
joined Mar 2014
#218 ·
Can I actually list late fees as a business expense? I'm looking at $0.30 some interest penalties charged on a utility bill. Should I be deducting the interest amount from the total invoice before I book it, or just record it as is? Since there’s no sales tax involved on the interest portion, I want to make sure I'm handling the bookkeeping correctly.
Nicole Lee6 Nicole Lee6 Regular
252 messages
joined Jun 2007
#219 ·
Keith Martinez5 said:Can I actually list late fees as a business expense? I'm looking at $0.30 some interest penalties charged on a utility bill. Should I be deducting the interest amount from the total invoice before I book it, or just record it as is? Since there’s no sales tax involved on the interest portion, I want to make sure I'm handling the bookkeeping correctly.

Personally, I always categorize any late interest from vendor invoices as an expense. When I'm filing the tax returns, I just put them in the "non-taxable" section—EXCEPT for interest owed to the IRS, which I don't even bother recording at all.

Now, looking at the situation, I'm fairly certain that what you're asking is perfectly legal. 🤣
amberbadger17 amberbadger17 Active Member
190 messages
joined May 2012
#220 ·
Nicole Lee6 said:Personally, I always categorize any late interest from vendor invoices as an expense. When I'm filing the tax returns, I just put them in the "non-taxable" section—EXCEPT for interest owed to the IRS, which I don't even bother recording at all.

Now, looking at the situation, I'm fairly certain that what you're asking is perfectly legal. 🤣

That’s exactly how I handle it too. 🙂

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