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Accounting for Sole Proprietors: Tax & Bookkeeping Tips

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Nicole Lee6 Nicole Lee6 Regular
252 messages
joined Jun 2007
#1421 ·
If I’m running a small business—not part of some massive corporation or anything—can I just pay an employee their commuting reimbursement based on a simple confirmation from the transit company regarding the route price? Or am I strictly required to attach an actual receipt for every single ticket purchased?

Furthermore, can a small business owner calculate that reimbursement based on the cost of individual daily tickets for each leg of the trip, or am I forced to pay out the full amount of a monthly pass for that specific route?
graniterider10 graniterider10 Active Member
71 messages
joined Jun 2018
#1422 ·
Lupita Nyong'o, thanks for clarifying the tax stuff.
Now I'm wondering about something else. I haven't actually dealt with this specific scenario yet, so I'm a bit lost on how to handle a tax liability transfer.
I just received an invoice because of some recent repairs, but there’s no sales tax calculated on it. Should I just record it exactly as it is, without any tax, and then just list the required sales tax separately on my tax return, or is there more to it than that?
Also, is the amount I actually paid considered the base for the sales tax? For example, if I paid $667, does that mean the sales tax is $167?!
Brenda Chase3 Brenda Chase3 Regular
367 messages
joined Dec 2016
#1423 ·
graniterider10 said:Lupita Nyong'o, thanks for clarifying the tax stuff.
Now I'm wondering about something else. I haven't actually dealt with this specific scenario yet, so I'm a bit lost on how to handle a tax liability transfer.
I just received an invoice because of some recent repairs, but there’s no sales tax calculated on it. Should I just record it exactly as it is, without any tax, and then just list the required sales tax separately on my tax return, or is there more to it than that?
Also, is the amount I actually paid considered the base for the sales tax? For example, if I paid $667, does that mean the sales tax is $167?!

You should record the invoice as an expense, and those $0.67 will go toward your expenditures. You'll need to report the $2,000 base amount and the sales tax of $167 on your tax return under sections II.4 and III.4.
graniterider10 graniterider10 Active Member
71 messages
joined Jun 2018
#1424 ·
account, thanks so much for the reply. 🙂
Olivia Cruz86 Olivia Cruz86 Active Member
114 messages
joined Nov 2014
#1425 ·
casualorca5 said:I suppose I would just record that as income, without sales tax.
The interdependence of income and expenses☕

Thanks a ton! 🙂
placidlynx92 placidlynx92 Active Member
92 messages
joined Jan 2013
#1426 ·
Nicole Lee6 said:If I’m running a small business—not part of some massive corporation or anything—can I just pay an employee their commuting reimbursement based on a simple confirmation from the transit company regarding the route price? Or am I strictly required to attach an actual receipt for every single ticket purchased?

Furthermore, can a small business owner calculate that reimbursement based on the cost of individual daily tickets for each leg of the trip, or am I forced to pay out the full amount of a monthly pass for that specific route?

1. A statement works fine.
2. That statement from the transit provider needs to clearly list the price of a monthly pass for that specific route. If a monthly option doesn't even exist—which is the case in some of the more rural parts of the country I've traveled through—then you just calculate it based on the one-way fare multiplied by two, then times the number of working days.
amberbadger17 amberbadger17 Active Member
190 messages
joined May 2012
#1427 ·
So, quick question for the tax pros out there: can a small business owner write off a phone top-up if the phone itself is already listed on the company’s asset registry? And—here’s the kicker—what if I bought the credit without getting a formal receipt?

Thanks!
ruggedlynx63 ruggedlynx63 Active Member
59 messages
joined Mar 2018
#1428 ·
amberbadger17 said:So, quick question for the tax pros out there: can a small business owner write off a phone top-up if the phone itself is already listed on the company’s asset registry? And—here’s the kicker—what if I bought the credit without getting a formal receipt?

Thanks!

Look, if you have a proper IRS receipt, then sure, you can do it. But if there’s no official receipt... then no, you can't. It's that simple.
Lisa Nelson4 Lisa Nelson4 Member
16 messages
joined May 2014
#1429 ·
Hey everyone, just popping in to say hi!

I'm currently buried under a mountain of personal errands—so much to do, right?—so I'll try to keep this quick. I really don't have the headspace to comb through the entire tax code regarding sales tax and income tax today. If I'm issuing an invoice that’s going to be paid in Euros, am I legally required to use the Federal Reserve's mid-market exchange rate for both the invoice date and the payment date? Or, I guess, is it okay if I just go with whatever rate my bank decides to use?

Thanks so much in advance!
Brenda Chase3 Brenda Chase3 Regular
367 messages
joined Dec 2016
#1430 ·
Lisa Nelson4 said:Hey everyone, just popping in to say hi!

I'm currently buried under a mountain of personal errands—so much to do, right?—so I'll try to keep this quick. I really don't have the headspace to comb through the entire tax code regarding sales tax and income tax today. If I'm issuing an invoice that’s going to be paid in Euros, am I legally required to use the Federal Reserve's mid-market exchange rate for both the invoice date and the payment date? Or, I guess, is it okay if I just go with whatever rate my bank decides to use?

Thanks so much in advance!

You have to use the Federal Reserve mid-market rate; any discrepancy gets recorded as a foreign exchange gain or loss.
Lisa Nelson4 Lisa Nelson4 Member
16 messages
joined May 2014
#1431 ·
Brenda Chase3 said:You have to use the Federal Reserve mid-market rate; any discrepancy gets recorded as a foreign exchange gain or loss.


Man, if only my life were actually that uncomplicated... 😵

So, here’s the deal—the invoice came out to $1400, which, using the Federal Reserve mid-market rate, works out to roughly 600 dollars.
Then the client goes and pays 601 dollars (and honestly—heaven only knows why they chose that specific amount).
My husband tries to convert those dollars into USD through our online banking app and—well, he messes up the transaction—he ends up buying *another* 601 dollars instead. So now we’re sitting on 1,202 dollars in that foreign currency account.
The next thing he does is sell all 1,202 dollars, and suddenly 8,339.33 gets deposited into our main account (using the bank's daily rate of 7.433, whereas the Federal Reserve rate was 7.4962).
Now I'm stuck wondering... how on earth do I record this in the KPI software so my auditor at the IRS doesn't come after me next year over this weird little loop of buying and selling 601 dollars? I guess he'll just see it as a deposit into the checking account, right?

And honestly, these new foreign currency accounts are so confusing. They share the same account number as a standard checking account, and while you can see the foreign currency hitting the account in online banking, there's no USD equivalent shown. You have absolutely no idea what it's worth in actual cash until you sell it—only then does the USD value show up as a deposit in the main account. For me, the only way to stay sane might be to sell the foreign currency the very same day it arrives, finish all the bookkeeping immediately, and just not deal with the headache of figuring out when to log everything. Is anyone else running into this kind of mess?

To make matters even more frustrating—and maybe a little tragic—two years ago we used to get paper statements for every single exchange rate change that showed both the foreign amount and its USD equivalent. Now, those statements are gone, but the exchange rates still shift every single day. If I decide to hold onto the currency in the account, does that mean I have to check the bank's rate sheet every single morning, manually convert the dollars to USD, and update the income increases or decreases for exchange differences in the KPI every single day?
graniterider10 graniterider10 Active Member
71 messages
joined Jun 2018
#1432 ·
Brenda Chase3 said:You should record the invoice as an expense, and those $0.67 will go toward your expenditures. You'll need to report the $2,000 base amount and the sales tax of $167 on your tax return under sections II.4 and III.4.

So I'm working on this sales tax form right now and I see that the transfer of the tax liability—both the tax owed and the credit—is handled on the form. Is that actually okay? I just don't want to screw something up here. 🤦😵
Nicole Lee6 Nicole Lee6 Regular
252 messages
joined Jun 2007
#1433 ·
Lisa Nelson4 said:Man, if only my life were actually that uncomplicated... 😵

So, here’s the deal—the invoice came out to $1400, which, using the Federal Reserve mid-market rate, works out to roughly 600 dollars.
Then the client goes and pays 601 dollars (and honestly—heaven only knows why they chose that specific amount).
My husband tries to convert those dollars into USD through our online banking app and—well, he messes up the transaction—he ends up buying *another* 601 dollars instead. So now we’re sitting on 1,202 dollars in that foreign currency account.
The next thing he does is sell all 1,202 dollars, and suddenly 8,339.33 gets deposited into our main account (using the bank's daily rate of 7.433, whereas the Federal Reserve rate was 7.4962).
Now I'm stuck wondering... how on earth do I record this in the KPI software so my auditor at the IRS doesn't come after me next year over this weird little loop of buying and selling 601 dollars? I guess he'll just see it as a deposit into the checking account, right?

And honestly, these new foreign currency accounts are so confusing. They share the same account number as a standard checking account, and while you can see the foreign currency hitting the account in online banking, there's no USD equivalent shown. You have absolutely no idea what it's worth in actual cash until you sell it—only then does the USD value show up as a deposit in the main account. For me, the only way to stay sane might be to sell the foreign currency the very same day it arrives, finish all the bookkeeping immediately, and just not deal with the headache of figuring out when to log everything. Is anyone else running into this kind of mess?

To make matters even more frustrating—and maybe a little tragic—two years ago we used to get paper statements for every single exchange rate change that showed both the foreign amount and its USD equivalent. Now, those statements are gone, but the exchange rates still shift every single day. If I decide to hold onto the currency in the account, does that mean I have to check the bank's rate sheet every single morning, manually convert the dollars to USD, and update the income increases or decreases for exchange differences in the KPI every single day?

I constantly receive USD payments from overseas based on invoices I've sent. In the KPI system, I close out the invoice entirely as income, then log the bank's intermediary fee as an expense, and finally handle the exchange differences through the income section (I take the Federal Reserve mid-market rate for the day the money landed, convert the received USD to USD, subtract the original invoice amount, and book the difference as an exchange gain/loss).
I just let the USD sit in the foreign currency account until I actually need it. When I eventually convert it back to my local currency, I record the currency sale as income outside of the KPI, matching whatever the bank statement shows. That gets entered into the P-PPI under additional data (since that USD income was already accounted for when I closed the outgoing invoice, but because I didn't use the cash until later, that specific moment of conversion goes into the supplemental data; otherwise, you end up reporting the same income twice and paying double taxes to the Department of Health and Human Services).
Nicole Lee6 Nicole Lee6 Regular
252 messages
joined Jun 2007
#1434 ·
I honestly can't believe we're still having this same debate. It feels like we've been circling the drain on this topic for months, yet here we are again, watching people jump to conclusions without looking at a single shred of actual data. It’s exhausting, really. I was reading through some of the comments earlier—and yes, I *do* read them, despite how much they sometimes make my blood boil—and it strikes me how little anyone seems to grasp about the underlying mechanics of what's happening. You see someone like Jamie Young9 throwing around numbers like they’re gospel, but they aren't even looking at the adjusted figures. It’s all surface level! If you don't account for the volatility we saw last quarter, you might as well be reading tea leaves instead of economic reports. And don't even get me started on the sentiment being pushed by certain users. I noticed Brenda Chase3 was making some pretty bold claims about market stability, and frankly, it’s reckless. We know the Fed isn't just going to sit on its hands while inflation continues to dance around these targets. To suggest otherwise isn't just optimistic; it's mathematically unsound. We need to slow down. We need to stop reacting to every headline like it's a five-alarm fire and actually start analyzing the trends. I know, I know—it’s not as "exciting" as shouting into the void, but if we want to actually understand where this is heading, we have to be more disciplined. I'm tired of the noise. Let's try to have a civilized discussion based on reality for once, shall we? kaže:
I’m sitting here grinding through this sales tax return right now, and I’ve hit a bit of a mental block. I'm looking at how the tax liability transfers—you know, balancing out the actual tax owed against the input credits on the form. Is that standard procedure? I just want to make sure I don't completely screw this up and end up with a headache from the IRS later. 🤦😵

If you’re entitled to a tax credit, then honestly, you’re in a fine position. It’s one of those rare scenarios that works both ways—it can be a win or a wash, but either way, you end up paying exactly zero.
Jessica Gonzalez30 Jessica Gonzalez30 Active Member
88 messages
joined Mar 2018
#1435 ·
Has anyone here ever had any experience dealing with filing residency fees for independent contractors or small business owners?
Jamie Young9 Jamie Young9 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Nov 2016
#1436 ·
Hello everyone, I hope you're all doing well...

So, I typically handle the accounting for an LLC, but I also have a sole proprietorship client who manages their own taxes and contributions and files monthly sales tax returns. I’ve been managing their books for quite some time now, but they've always been a one-person show. However, starting December 1st, they’re planning to hire someone on a temporary contract. Since I’ve never actually processed payroll for an individual proprietor before—only for corporations—I was wondering if anyone could clarify the payment details during the payroll calculation process. Specifically, does the procedure for the payment accounts and using the JPMorgan Chase reference number stay exactly the same as it does when I'm working with an LLC?

Thanks in advance!

Feeling a bit out of my depth here...😵
Nicole Lee6 Nicole Lee6 Regular
252 messages
joined Jun 2007
#1437 ·
Jamie Young9 said:Hello everyone, I hope you're all doing well...

So, I typically handle the accounting for an LLC, but I also have a sole proprietorship client who manages their own taxes and contributions and files monthly sales tax returns. I’ve been managing their books for quite some time now, but they've always been a one-person show. However, starting December 1st, they’re planning to hire someone on a temporary contract. Since I’ve never actually processed payroll for an individual proprietor before—only for corporations—I was wondering if anyone could clarify the payment details during the payroll calculation process. Specifically, does the procedure for the payment accounts and using the JPMorgan Chase reference number stay exactly the same as it does when I'm working with an LLC?

Thanks in advance!

Feeling a bit out of my depth here...😵

Yes, they do.
Jamie Young9 Jamie Young9 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Nov 2016
#1438 ·
Nicole Lee6 said:Yes, they do.

I really appreciate you getting back to me on this... sending my very best wishes your way!
Lisa Nelson4 Lisa Nelson4 Member
16 messages
joined May 2014
#1439 ·
Nicole Lee6 said:I constantly receive USD payments from overseas based on invoices I've sent. In the KPI system, I close out the invoice entirely as income, then log the bank's intermediary fee as an expense, and finally handle the exchange differences through the income section (I take the Federal Reserve mid-market rate for the day the money landed, convert the received USD to USD, subtract the original invoice amount, and book the difference as an exchange gain/loss).
I just let the USD sit in the foreign currency account until I actually need it. When I eventually convert it back to my local currency, I record the currency sale as income outside of the KPI, matching whatever the bank statement shows. That gets entered into the P-PPI under additional data (since that USD income was already accounted for when I closed the outgoing invoice, but because I didn't use the cash until later, that specific moment of conversion goes into the supplemental data; otherwise, you end up reporting the same income twice and paying double taxes to the Department of Health and Human Services).


Nicole Lee6, thanks so much for the answer! You really cleared everything up for me... honestly, I haven't even thought about using income entries outside of QuickBooks before because all the money hitting my account comes directly from specific invoices, so it hadn't even crossed my mind 😵
Olivia Cruz86 Olivia Cruz86 Active Member
114 messages
joined Nov 2014
#1440 ·
Hey there!

So, I’ve got this situation—we bought some supplies using an account under a sole proprietorship's name, but the actual payment went through my wife's personal debit card. Now, here's the kicker: can we actually record that expense in our petty cash fund and then just pull out cash from it to square things up? We don't even carry business cards at our office... thanks!

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