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The New Industrial Revolution: Are we actually ready for this?

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briskskipper27 briskskipper27 Member
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#41 ·
goldengull3 said:I don’t have the luxury of sitting here and watching the whole thing right now, but if you ask me, the job market shift is actually quite straightforward. We are seeing the elimination of roles that are purely repetitive and offer zero incremental value, though, in their place, entirely different opportunities are emerging.

The jobs being phased out include things like:
- Assembly line workers—a robot handles that far more efficiently.
- Grocery clerks—they don't add unique value or meaningfully drive sales.
- Truck drivers—automation is already proving superior (even as we speak).

But conversely, certain roles aren't disappearing; in fact, demand will only climb:
- Designers—the advent of 3D modeling presents a massive new frontier.
- Mechanical engineers—they can now develop technologies they previously could only dream of.
- Chefs—they provide intrinsic value by refining and customizing a product (though I suspect high-volume cafeteria cooks will eventually be replaced by advanced printers).
- Car salespeople or servers—human social interaction drives sales in a way a kiosk simply cannot replicate.

That said, this reality completely dismantles the outdated vision of "industry" that many Americans cling to. The kind of industrial landscape being built today doesn't require massive factories packed with thousands of low-skilled laborers.

So, what happens to the people who don't have the capacity to become engineers or designers?
goldengull3 goldengull3 Regular
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#42 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Ever since I heard you could actually make food out of algae, I’ve been sitting here wondering—why isn't this some massive industry bigger than the damn iPhone? It’s basically just high-tech snacks for adults, so why aren't all our government agencies stockpiling this stuff already?

The Japanese people have been eating algae for quite some time now. Then again, you can't ignore the fact that wheat remains significantly cheaper.
goldengull3 goldengull3 Regular
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#43 ·
Amanda Diaz said:Are we even preparing for the future? And honestly, what can a country with an economy the size of America's mid-sized states actually do about it? Invent a 3D printer? No chance—it’s already done. Throw a few billion dollars at improving existing tech? Forget it, because some global superpower will just dump tens of billions into the exact same thing tomorrow.

So, how exactly is this "preparation" supposed to work? I'd love to know, just so I can actually get ready...

We can, however, teach the next generation how to actually use those technologies—focusing on manufacturing, coding, and industrial design.

We can adjust school curricula and university programs to match the shifts we know are coming.
Sarah James4 Sarah James4 Active Member
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#44 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:This could spark some bloody revolutions.

Just like how white farmers in Kansas revolted against slavery—not because they were big fans of the system, but because they couldn't compete with the slave owners—people aren't going to sit idly by while robots take over the factory floor.

Industry has been using robots for decades now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19637175
goldengull3 goldengull3 Regular
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#45 ·
ruggedgardener2 said:But he's out here claiming that technological progress is wiping out more jobs than it actually creates.

I suspect the USA has managed to claw back its former productivity levels since the crisis, though it seems we’re still sitting on about 5 million fewer employees—if I recall correctly from some commentary I came across.

The reality is quite simple: the world is changing. Sure, new industries will emerge, but those roles won't be for everyone. For people looking for straightforward work without the headache of constant complexity, or for those who simply never had much patience for the classroom, opportunities are going to dry up.
goldengull3 goldengull3 Regular
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#46 ·
briskskipper27 said:Copyright should just be abolished entirely.

By all means, feel free to declare everything you work on—every bit of intellectual property you touch—to be open source. 🙂 But I have to wonder: how much of your own work have you actually liberated to prove your point? Are we talking about a month of effort, a year, or perhaps five years of dedicated labor?

Furthermore, it isn't your responsibility to solve the dilemma faced by creators who have spent years bleeding over a manuscript or a studio album, only to seek legal protection so they can actually earn a living. The solution is simple: you don't have to use their work. Take 3D printing, for instance; if you truly believe this, then simply develop your own designs. You won't need to rely on anyone else's protected files, patents, or proprietary tech.

Certain systems will undoubtedly undergo reform in the future, but certainly not through the lens you're proposing.
northernsailor8 northernsailor8 Active Member
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#47 ·
Jack Johnson6 said:This is easily one of the most senseless hypes we've seen lately.

Yeah, it’s completely senseless hype. I suppose it's hard to see how this vague promise of faster, cheaper, and more accessible production—resulting in complex parts that traditional machines struggle with—actually matters. It feels like nothing more than hipster posturing. I guess that's probably why they recently sent it up to the ISS to print components in orbit...🙄
Nicholas Chavez70 Nicholas Chavez70 Active MemberOP
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joined Jan 2008
#48 ·
goldengull3 said:I don’t have the luxury of sitting here and watching the whole thing right now, but if you ask me, the job market shift is actually quite straightforward. We are seeing the elimination of roles that are purely repetitive and offer zero incremental value, though, in their place, entirely different opportunities are emerging.

The jobs being phased out include things like:
- Assembly line workers—a robot handles that far more efficiently.
- Grocery clerks—they don't add unique value or meaningfully drive sales.
- Truck drivers—automation is already proving superior (even as we speak).

But conversely, certain roles aren't disappearing; in fact, demand will only climb:
- Designers—the advent of 3D modeling presents a massive new frontier.
- Mechanical engineers—they can now develop technologies they previously could only dream of.
- Chefs—they provide intrinsic value by refining and customizing a product (though I suspect high-volume cafeteria cooks will eventually be replaced by advanced printers).
- Car salespeople or servers—human social interaction drives sales in a way a kiosk simply cannot replicate.

That said, this reality completely dismantles the outdated vision of "industry" that many Americans cling to. The kind of industrial landscape being built today doesn't require massive factories packed with thousands of low-skilled laborers.

What you’re describing applies only to the upper class, but even then, computers and replicators can be programmed to follow any recipe to produce any meal... Theoretically, there wouldn't even be a need for a traditional chef, but rather a new profession altogether, something akin to a food designer... 😁 😁
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#49 ·
Sarah James4 said:Industry has been using robots for decades now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19637175

But honestly, it’s mostly happening in Japan, where people aren't nearly as worked up about it.
northernsailor8 northernsailor8 Active Member
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#50 ·
briskskipper27 said:Copyright should just be abolished entirely.

That sounds lovely. Let's just force everyone who spent decades studying, experimenting, and grinding to invent something into a system where any random person with more capital can simply snatch their idea, get rich off it, while the actual creators stay stuck in their basements struggling to get by.

It’s definitely a great way to encourage high-level scientific research. By the way, we saw a similar setup under old-school socialism, where the government automatically owned all patents. I suppose I don't even need to mention how those socialist nations fell so far behind in R&D that they basically lost the race against capitalism for good.

An individual researcher who gets robbed of their own work loses the drive to keep going. I guess I wouldn't feel much motivation to write anything useful if anyone could just read it and claim it as their own.
Jack Johnson6 Jack Johnson6 Member
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#51 ·
northernsailor8 said:Yeah, it’s completely senseless hype. I suppose it's hard to see how this vague promise of faster, cheaper, and more accessible production—resulting in complex parts that traditional machines struggle with—actually matters. It feels like nothing more than hipster posturing. I guess that's probably why they recently sent it up to the ISS to print components in orbit...🙄

We’ve been hearing this same story for five or six years now. They haven't exactly marched into every American home and revolutionized the world yet. In most scenarios, there are better, more efficient technologies already available. This will find its niche, and that's it. I expect the endless cycle of articles claiming 3D printers will change everything to keep coming.
briskdrifter3 briskdrifter3 Active Member
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#52 ·
goldengull3 said:You have likely encountered the headlines—the proliferation of 3D printers is accelerating at a pace that many claim will trigger a second industrial revolution.

Billions are being poured into this development. In America, the primary driver is the desire to decouple industrial manufacturing from its heavy reliance on China. Much of what is currently handled by a largely semi-skilled workforce can already be printed, or will be within a few short years:
- plastic and similar components (this is already a reality)
- metal parts (already occurring sporadically)
- houses and similar structures (on the horizon)

The implications are simple. If you need a glass, you print it. If you require an auto part, a mechanic simply orders it from a "print shop," and a component is ready for installation in a matter of hours—eliminating the need for shipping or massive inventories.

Looking for specialized pasta? Even Kraft Heinz is exploring 3D printing:

In an era where a 3D printer can produce product prototypes, floor tiles, miniature replicas, aircraft components, or even custom sweets, it stands to reason that one could print bespoke pasta. This is precisely the objective of Kraft Heinz, which, in collaboration with the RAND Corporation in Silicon Valley, has begun developing a prototype device designed for 3D pasta printing.

The goal is to engineer a printer specifically for restaurants aiming to offer a unique service: serving pasta in customized shapes and flavors, prepared almost instantly upon ordering.


Perhaps you need an entire house? That is also possible; walls can be erected in 24 hours:

On a cleared and leveled site, workers would lay down two rails a few feet further apart than the eventual building’s width and a computer-controlled contour crafter would take over from there. A gantry-type crane with a hanging nozzle and a components-placing arm would travel along the rails. The nozzle would spit out concrete in layers to create hollow walls, and then fill in the walls with additional concrete… humans would hang doors and insert windows.

http://www.psfk.com/2014/01/concrete...er.html#!sfIHV

Millions of jobs will vanish in the coming years. Of course, new ones will emerge—someone must design, assemble, and maintain these printers, just as someone must handle design, sales, and intellectual property protection.

What will undeniably disappear are the low-skill positions in manufacturing, logistics, assembly, and certain sectors of construction. This shift will carry profound political consequences; as the industrial structure shifts, so does the demand in the labor market. Developed nations will no longer be seeking factory workers, but specialists.

Ultimately, this is a subject of intense contemplation in developed nations, but I wonder if anyone here is truly paying attention.

The sector that will truly flourish due to 3D printing technology is spaceflight, along with entirely new industries born from it. Through 3D printing, commercial space travel will finally become financially viable, which marks the beginning of true, practical space exploitation. In fact, 3D printers capable of "printing" habitats on the Moon are already in development, and the next logical step is active mining within the asteroid belt—where there is enough exotic metal and other alloys to fuel exploitation for the next 100,000 years.
Within our own lifetimes—perhaps thirty or forty years from now—we will witness miniature robotic probes mining asteroids in the belt, processing that material on the Moon, and sending refined, pure raw materials back to Earth.
Most vocational jobs and those requiring only a high school diploma will disappear over the next fifty years due to the advancement of robotics and artificial intelligence... yet our politicians continue to drone on about training even more waiters, cooks, and other service-sector workers. The children being educated for those roles are, quite frankly, a doomed generation.
goldengull3 goldengull3 Regular
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#53 ·
Nicholas Chavez70 said:What you’re describing applies only to the upper class, but even then, computers and replicators can be programmed to follow any recipe to produce any meal... Theoretically, there wouldn't even be a need for a traditional chef, but rather a new profession altogether, something akin to a food designer... 😁 😁

Essentially—yes. Who would actually want to eat the exact same thing every single day? A flavor designer... now that has a certain ring to it.
northernsailor8 northernsailor8 Active Member
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#54 ·
briskskipper27 said:So, what happens to the people who don't have the capacity to become engineers or designers?

They’ll become printer technicians, manufacture printing supplies, manage power grids, or build warehouses and office buildings. There will be plenty of roles in logistics, distribution, marketing, finance, and market research, among many others.

This isn't some sci-fi scenario. In the West, this has been the norm for a long time, where about half the population holds a college degree.
Nicholas Chavez70 Nicholas Chavez70 Active MemberOP
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#55 ·
ruggedgardener2 said:And now he's moving on to self-driving cars.

Nobody actually knows what's coming. 🙂

I mean, you already have several options available in this year's Mercedes-Benz S-Class... just watch the video, it’s honestly bordering on obscene... 😁

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKJ41kOghH8
goldengull3 goldengull3 Regular
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joined Nov 2007
#56 ·
northernsailor8 said:That sounds lovely. Let's just force everyone who spent decades studying, experimenting, and grinding to invent something into a system where any random person with more capital can simply snatch their idea, get rich off it, while the actual creators stay stuck in their basements struggling to get by.

It’s definitely a great way to encourage high-level scientific research. By the way, we saw a similar setup under old-school socialism, where the government automatically owned all patents. I suppose I don't even need to mention how those socialist nations fell so far behind in R&D that they basically lost the race against capitalism for good.

An individual researcher who gets robbed of their own work loses the drive to keep going. I guess I wouldn't feel much motivation to write anything useful if anyone could just read it and claim it as their own.

True, they didn't fall behind in military tech or what used to be called "specialized" industries (including space exploration). That’s because the engineers and innovators in those specific fields were actually treated well. They were handsomely compensated with better apartments, higher-end cars, superior salaries, and luxury vacations in Miami.🙂
neonhound18 neonhound18 Active Member
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#57 ·
goldengull3 said:I suspect the USA has managed to claw back its former productivity levels since the crisis, though it seems we’re still sitting on about 5 million fewer employees—if I recall correctly from some commentary I came across.

The reality is quite simple: the world is changing. Sure, new industries will emerge, but those roles won't be for everyone. For people looking for straightforward work without the headache of constant complexity, or for those who simply never had much patience for the classroom, opportunities are going to dry up.

And one can't help but wonder, will we eventually see nanotechnology integrated into the human body, or perhaps life extension technologies offering a sort of "eternal youth"? All joking aside, such advancements could trigger massive global upheavals; wouldn't that inevitably spark some kind of social revolution? 🤷
Aaron Barrett79 Aaron Barrett79 Member
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#58 ·
briskdrifter3 said:The sector that will truly flourish due to 3D printing technology is spaceflight, along with entirely new industries born from it. Through 3D printing, commercial space travel will finally become financially viable, which marks the beginning of true, practical space exploitation. In fact, 3D printers capable of "printing" habitats on the Moon are already in development, and the next logical step is active mining within the asteroid belt—where there is enough exotic metal and other alloys to fuel exploitation for the next 100,000 years.
Within our own lifetimes—perhaps thirty or forty years from now—we will witness miniature robotic probes mining asteroids in the belt, processing that material on the Moon, and sending refined, pure raw materials back to Earth.
Most vocational jobs and those requiring only a high school diploma will disappear over the next fifty years due to the advancement of robotics and artificial intelligence... yet our politicians continue to drone on about training even more waiters, cooks, and other service-sector workers. The children being educated for those roles are, quite frankly, a doomed generation.

Just another perfect look at a revolution in the making. It’s pretty wild—what used to be strictly NASA territory, or stuff handled by government agencies overseas, is now being taken over in the US by private players like SpaceX, Orbital Sciences Corporation, and Sierra Nevada Corporation. They're building a massive head start for the future. Honestly, SpaceX is the ultimate proof of how much better the private sector is compared to the government. In just a few years, they've done more than NASA did in the last 15... not to mention how their tech is going to tank the cost of launching cargo into orbit, making full-scale exploitation actually doable.
placidranger placidranger Regular
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#59 ·
goldengull3 said:You have likely encountered the headlines—the proliferation of 3D printers is accelerating at a pace that many claim will trigger a second industrial revolution.

Billions are being poured into this development. In America, the primary driver is the desire to decouple industrial manufacturing from its heavy reliance on China. Much of what is currently handled by a largely semi-skilled workforce can already be printed, or will be within a few short years:
- plastic and similar components (this is already a reality)
- metal parts (already occurring sporadically)
- houses and similar structures (on the horizon)

The implications are simple. If you need a glass, you print it. If you require an auto part, a mechanic simply orders it from a "print shop," and a component is ready for installation in a matter of hours—eliminating the need for shipping or massive inventories.

Looking for specialized pasta? Even Kraft Heinz is exploring 3D printing:

In an era where a 3D printer can produce product prototypes, floor tiles, miniature replicas, aircraft components, or even custom sweets, it stands to reason that one could print bespoke pasta. This is precisely the objective of Kraft Heinz, which, in collaboration with the RAND Corporation in Silicon Valley, has begun developing a prototype device designed for 3D pasta printing.

The goal is to engineer a printer specifically for restaurants aiming to offer a unique service: serving pasta in customized shapes and flavors, prepared almost instantly upon ordering.


Perhaps you need an entire house? That is also possible; walls can be erected in 24 hours:

On a cleared and leveled site, workers would lay down two rails a few feet further apart than the eventual building’s width and a computer-controlled contour crafter would take over from there. A gantry-type crane with a hanging nozzle and a components-placing arm would travel along the rails. The nozzle would spit out concrete in layers to create hollow walls, and then fill in the walls with additional concrete… humans would hang doors and insert windows.

http://www.psfk.com/2014/01/concrete...er.html#!sfIHV

Millions of jobs will vanish in the coming years. Of course, new ones will emerge—someone must design, assemble, and maintain these printers, just as someone must handle design, sales, and intellectual property protection.

What will undeniably disappear are the low-skill positions in manufacturing, logistics, assembly, and certain sectors of construction. This shift will carry profound political consequences; as the industrial structure shifts, so does the demand in the labor market. Developed nations will no longer be seeking factory workers, but specialists.

Ultimately, this is a subject of intense contemplation in developed nations, but I wonder if anyone here is truly paying attention.

Fortunately, we don't have many factory workers to begin with. 🙂

I don't think governments as entities have much say in this. It comes down to individuals who recognize the potential and push forward—and there are plenty of those people here, even if they're just working out of a garage.

The next industrial revolution won't happen in massive plants; it’ll happen in those garages, powered by the internet and new global financial systems built on crypto. You’ve got an invention in your garage and you need capital to scale up? You don't need a bank. You have global crowdfunding. You hop on a video call to pitch an investor halfway across the world.
placidranger placidranger Regular
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#60 ·
Jack Johnson6 said:We’ve been hearing this same story for five or six years now. They haven't exactly marched into every American home and revolutionized the world yet. In most scenarios, there are better, more efficient technologies already available. This will find its niche, and that's it. I expect the endless cycle of articles claiming 3D printers will change everything to keep coming.

In those five or six years, they've become about 50 times cheaper. Give it another year or two and kids will be playing with them like any other toy.

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