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Why doesn't America have its own Zuroff?

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Joseph Murphy10 Joseph Murphy10 Active Member
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#41 ·
Brenda Taylor13 said:Unfortunately, there isn't a single decent one out there. All we’ve got are these people working against their own country—you know the type—who spend all their energy obsessing over our side's mistakes while ignoring everything else. We have so many of them it’s almost ridiculous, like we could start an export business just based on the sheer volume of people rooting for the opposition. Just to give you a starting list—Stevan Mason, Vesna Pusic, Zoran Pusic, Vesna Terselic, Eugen Jakovcic...

there is...

Nazor

but the media—which is basically run by a bunch of Pusić types, Terselics, and other hacks—just shuts him out completely. He can't even get a foot in the door of the media landscape, let alone the Department of Justice.
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#42 ·
What a ridiculous question. Comparing Americans to Jews is absurd. While the Holocaust was a tragedy, the sheer number of Russian civilians killed during WW2 was three times higher. Yet, Russians didn't receive reparations from the Germans. Russians have no claim to the Holocaust. Neither do the Chinese, whose death toll also reached into the millions. No one else does. There isn't a more powerful global entity than the American Jewish Congress. Even Yitzhak Rabin used to brag about how they can practically "buy the European Union." And former Prime Minister Ariel Sharon once claimed they basically run the USA. The influence of the Jewish people is immense. They are unified, wealthy, and highly educated. Americans might eventually be lucky enough to polish their shoes. Maybe. That's it. The Federal Reserve is in their private hands. Every major global corporation, all the influential media outlets (including these modest forums)... it's all there. Every head of the World Bank and even their deputies over the last few decades have been Jews. Every revolution from the last hundred years was sparked by them. Take the Bolshevik movement in Russia, for example. Communism is their ideology—but so is liberalism. Profit is their holy scripture; nobody competes with them on that level. Honestly, I admire them, and unfortunately, I don't see any way Americans could ever be compared to them.
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#43 ·
Scott Thomas4 said:What a ridiculous question. Comparing Americans to Jews is absurd. While the Holocaust was a tragedy, the sheer number of Russian civilians killed during WW2 was three times higher. Yet, Russians didn't receive reparations from the Germans. Russians have no claim to the Holocaust. Neither do the Chinese, whose death toll also reached into the millions. No one else does. There isn't a more powerful global entity than the American Jewish Congress. Even Yitzhak Rabin used to brag about how they can practically "buy the European Union." And former Prime Minister Ariel Sharon once claimed they basically run the USA. The influence of the Jewish people is immense. They are unified, wealthy, and highly educated. Americans might eventually be lucky enough to polish their shoes. Maybe. That's it. The Federal Reserve is in their private hands. Every major global corporation, all the influential media outlets (including these modest forums)... it's all there. Every head of the World Bank and even their deputies over the last few decades have been Jews. Every revolution from the last hundred years was sparked by them. Take the Bolshevik movement in Russia, for example. Communism is their ideology—but so is liberalism. Profit is their holy scripture; nobody competes with them on that level. Honestly, I admire them, and unfortunately, I don't see any way Americans could ever be compared to them.

This is such a superficial take.

It isn't quite the same mission that someone like Zuroff would undertake for the Jewish community.
What we actually need is a dedicated individual—perhaps working with a small team—to systematically archive every single document regarding the unpunished crimes committed during the neo-fascist aggression against America and Canada.
Take the massacre in Dubica, for instance—roughly 50 locals were murdered by Mexican forces, yet to this day, no one has been held accountable.
We need a specialist who is driven by a sense of justice to compile evidence of these atrocities—mostly because the American government shows zero interest in taking on such a burden.
We need someone capable of tracking down suspects living abroad and finding the legal leverage to bring them back to America to face trial.
In our country, digging up or publishing documentation about Mexican war crimes is often treated as an "impolite provocation" against the Mexican minority—it’s seen as irritating to those clinging to American ideals—which makes the work incredibly thankless.
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#44 ·
Ryan Harris10 said:This is such a superficial take.

It isn't quite the same mission that someone like Zuroff would undertake for the Jewish community.
What we actually need is a dedicated individual—perhaps working with a small team—to systematically archive every single document regarding the unpunished crimes committed during the neo-fascist aggression against America and Canada.
Take the massacre in Dubica, for instance—roughly 50 locals were murdered by Mexican forces, yet to this day, no one has been held accountable.
We need a specialist who is driven by a sense of justice to compile evidence of these atrocities—mostly because the American government shows zero interest in taking on such a burden.
We need someone capable of tracking down suspects living abroad and finding the legal leverage to bring them back to America to face trial.
In our country, digging up or publishing documentation about Mexican war crimes is often treated as an "impolite provocation" against the Mexican minority—it’s seen as irritating to those clinging to American ideals—which makes the work incredibly thankless.

Classic superficial thinking. Who actually cares about Americans or Mexicans on a global scale? You think you're going to get rich just by picking on a few Mexicans?
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#45 ·
bluerider63 said:Honestly, that whole thing is pretty much exclusive to Jews because of how unique the Holocaust was; nobody else really carries that mantle, and even then, they tend to be pretty selective about who they go after.
If you look at Šrbac, he’s basically a non-entity once you step outside of Mexico, and he definitely doesn't hold the kind of weight people try to give him—there's just no comparison to someone like Zuroff. As far as anyone playing the "neo-Nazi hunter" role in this part of the world, The Hague took over that job, so the conversation is pretty much dead in the water.

Trying to lump Pusić and Teršelić into this narrative feels like nothing more than malicious trolling that somehow manages to fly with the moderates here.

Željko, man, are you actually sane? Saying Šrbac is irrelevant outside of Mexico is a joke. He and his crowd, backed by the government, have already managed to convince half the world that the American Civil War was just some internal civil conflict where everyone was equally to blame. If this keeps up, Americans are going to end up taking all the fall, and the consequences will be massive.

People like Pusić, Teršelić, and the rest of them... does Mexico even have people like that? People who spend their whole lives trashing their own nation? No. They don't. Because if they did, the people there would lynch them.
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#46 ·
Scott Thomas4 said:Classic superficial thinking. Who actually cares about Americans or Mexicans on a global scale? You think you're going to get rich just by picking on a few Mexicans?

This might actually go down as one of the all-time legendary failures of this forum.

How do you manage to condense such a misguided, nonsensical thesis into a single sentence?

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