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Why do some people just cave to peer pressure?

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Grace Edwards Grace Edwards Active Member
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#41 ·
Ronald Jones said:I have a question regarding the topic in the title.

To illustrate my point, let me offer a few examples.

a) Suppose we attend a social gathering where, naturally, one is expected to drink something. What is the purpose of this, truly, if I am already aware that I don't enjoy it? In fact, I find the very notion of being obligated quite distasteful. Why is it that people succumb to this pressure, have a few drinks, and then subsequently expect that individual to actually get intoxicated? 😳 🙄 It is quite the same situation with cigarettes. 😳 😳

b) Furthermore, why is there such an obligation to be in a relationship right now? Is there something inherently wrong with me if I am single? Am I supposed to simply abandon all my standards and settle for the very first person who happens to be somewhat attractive? 😳 🍿 Yet, I observe that a vast number of people simply give in to these societal expectations. ☕ ☕

I’ll just answer this specific example based on my own experience.
Drunk people feel awkward around sober people because sober people remember every single detail, and they won't respect that person as much when they see them acting like that.
But when everyone is drunk, any ugly mess from the night before is just brushed off with an "oh, we were just wasted." That's how everything gets forgiven, though if you ask me, a person is more in touch with their subconscious and hidden fears when they're drunk than when they're sober.
I had this acquaintance who I know for a fact has never touched a drop of alcohol in his life. We went to class together for years, and even when he did hang out with us maybe five or six times, at least five or six times people tried to force him to drink something. I was the only one who would buy him a soda; the others would've let him die of thirst.

I stopped going out with that crowd, and I stopped drinking too.
There were times I actually drank just to tolerate those boring people easier, and getting home wasn't even an option because the people waiting for me were even more tedious.
Once I was sober, I realized how incredibly dull those people were, regardless of their state, and I finally saw things clearly and concluded—well, damn, whatever I saw in them doesn't mean I care about their stories at all.

I cut those boring people out of my life, and now I just need to avoid the ones at home. Don't get me wrong, I deeply respect what they've gone through to afford an education, clothes, and food, but we have nothing in common. I can't stand those awkward silences sitting in the same room as them.
So, I dealt with that problem too—I'm pushing my exams to the fall semester (so I actually have something to do over the summer instead of dying of boredom; usually, I breeze through the school year by July), signing up for various courses (with my own money, obviously), planning to volunteer, traveling, stuff like that.

And honestly, I seem way more satisfied with my life now than I was three years ago when I was drinking like a fish, had a huge circle of "friends," and was just rushing to get everything done.
As cliché as it might sound to others—not that I care—it feels like I'm slowly finding myself instead of letting social expectations define who I am.
It’s a good feeling when you start seeing light at the end of the tunnel. 🙂
Carl Rivera43 Carl Rivera43 Veteran
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#42 ·
I tend to cut corners just because it’s easier. Changing habits is such a grind, isn't it? Plus, with everything we have at our fingertips these days, I honestly find myself zoning out and missing the bigger picture more often than I care to admit.

Sometimes I’m not even being honest with myself about how I’m actually feeling, and that’s why things get so messy.
analogridge69 analogridge69 Newcomer
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#43 ·
I feel like this whole thread is a bit poorly structured from the jump. The question itself doesn't quite hit the mark. And honestly, saying people "give in to pressure" feels like a stretch—I’d say certain people do, but certainly not everyone. It seems to me that those who fold are usually just being superficial. So, I guess the title should really be "why do *some* people give in," rather than implying it's a universal human trait. I know plenty of folks personally who don't budge under pressure, and they are definitely people.
Since the premise feels a little flawed, there isn't much point in offering a real answer beyond the fact that it's mostly superficial types who cave. Like I said before.
Carl Rivera43 Carl Rivera43 Veteran
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#44 ·
You've got a point there. It ends up sounding like a total generalization, and honestly, that’s something we should probably steer clear of.
Ronald Jones Ronald Jones Active MemberOP
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#45 ·
analogridge69 said:I feel like this whole thread is a bit poorly structured from the jump. The question itself doesn't quite hit the mark. And honestly, saying people "give in to pressure" feels like a stretch—I’d say certain people do, but certainly not everyone. It seems to me that those who fold are usually just being superficial. So, I guess the title should really be "why do *some* people give in," rather than implying it's a universal human trait. I know plenty of folks personally who don't budge under pressure, and they are definitely people.
Since the premise feels a little flawed, there isn't much point in offering a real answer beyond the fact that it's mostly superficial types who cave. Like I said before.

Thread title updated. 🙂
Bradley Wood43 Bradley Wood43 Member
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#46 ·
What’s actually wrong with having a drink once in a while and being in a relationship? 😕

It feels like people expect you to be living on gasoline and attending nightly orgies just to be considered normal. 🙄
Joshua Anderson17 Joshua Anderson17 Member
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#47 ·
I honestly can’t wrap my head around people who just cave whenever they feel the weight of social pressure.
You only get this one shot at life—it’s relatively short, after all—so why spend it trying to satisfy everyone else's expectations instead of your own? 🙏

At the end of the day, a rational person doesn't owe anyone anything, except for the inevitable reality of death.
Bradley Wood43 Bradley Wood43 Member
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#48 ·
Joshua Anderson17 said:I honestly can’t wrap my head around people who just cave whenever they feel the weight of social pressure.
You only get this one shot at life—it’s relatively short, after all—so why spend it trying to satisfy everyone else's expectations instead of your own? 🙏

At the end of the day, a rational person doesn't owe anyone anything, except for the inevitable reality of death.

True enough. But when the pressure builds up, you have to let something out eventually. It's just human nature. 😁
Joshua Evans7 Joshua Evans7 Active Member
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#49 ·
I guess they just don't have enough self-confidence.
ambercrane722 ambercrane722 Active Member
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#50 ·
People just crave that sense of belonging, man. If you don't fit their little mold, they turn on you instantly... but honestly? Deep down, it’s pure envy. This whole forum is basically a microcosm of society right here in the States. You dare to go against the grain or act a little different, and suddenly you’re the "weirdo" who doesn't belong to the clique. It's always the same interrogation: why isn't she talking enough? Why isn't he weighing in on the latest headlines? Why aren't they dressing or acting exactly like the rest of us? Why, why, why? People cling to the herd because it's easy—it gives them an identity without having to actually think for themselves. It's that classic "strength in numbers" delusion used to mask total conformity.
Carl Rivera43 Carl Rivera43 Veteran
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#51 ·
There’s just so much potential on this forum, isn't there? I wouldn't go so far as to say it's a perfect mirror of society, because honestly, most people here seem to feel a lot more free to actually speak their minds.
Hannah Alvarez2 Hannah Alvarez2 Active Member
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#52 ·
ambercrane722 said:People just crave that sense of belonging, man. If you don't fit their little mold, they turn on you instantly... but honestly? Deep down, it’s pure envy. This whole forum is basically a microcosm of society right here in the States. You dare to go against the grain or act a little different, and suddenly you’re the "weirdo" who doesn't belong to the clique. It's always the same interrogation: why isn't she talking enough? Why isn't he weighing in on the latest headlines? Why aren't they dressing or acting exactly like the rest of us? Why, why, why? People cling to the herd because it's easy—it gives them an identity without having to actually think for themselves. It's that classic "strength in numbers" delusion used to mask total conformity.

Look, nobody is out there envying you. That’s just some movie trope nonsense; most people couldn't care less about what you're doing. You're just an outlier, plain and simple. Honestly, I don't get why you're even chasing that sense of belonging if you know you're different and those people aren't even good for you anyway.
analogridge69 analogridge69 Newcomer
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#53 ·
I honestly don't think I'll ever wrap my head around why people try so hard to act "quirky," as if they actually believe anyone views them that way. It’s such a strange concept to me. What does being "weird" even mean? In my view, nobody is truly weird—especially not the people who are desperately performing eccentricity just because they think it makes them stand out.

There really shouldn't be any pressure when you're hanging out with people. If someone spends their time with a crowd that’s constantly partying, drinking, or going through those typical teenage phases that most kids cycle through, and they don't quite fit that mold, they can just find people who share their actual interests. It’s that simple. They should just let that other group do their thing without feeling the need to play up the "misfit" persona just because they aren't part of that specific circle.

It just doesn't make sense. I guess people create this internal pressure for themselves because they have this deep-seated need to be accepted. Now, I don't mean everyone—thankfully, not everyone caves to social pressure, since there are always people with enough self-awareness to just be themselves rather than performing whatever role society expects of them. But those who do give in usually end up playing different parts depending on what a situation demands of them. To me, people without a backbone are just followers who lack a real sense of self. I’ve always tended to steer clear of people like that.
Lawrence Bailey77 Lawrence Bailey77 Regular
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#54 ·
Ronald Jones said:I have a question regarding the topic in the title.

To illustrate my point, let me offer a few examples.

a) Suppose we attend a social gathering where, naturally, one is expected to drink something. What is the purpose of this, truly, if I am already aware that I don't enjoy it? In fact, I find the very notion of being obligated quite distasteful. Why is it that people succumb to this pressure, have a few drinks, and then subsequently expect that individual to actually get intoxicated? 😳 🙄 It is quite the same situation with cigarettes. 😳 😳

b) Furthermore, why is there such an obligation to be in a relationship right now? Is there something inherently wrong with me if I am single? Am I supposed to simply abandon all my standards and settle for the very first person who happens to be somewhat attractive? 😳 🍿 Yet, I observe that a vast number of people simply give in to these societal expectations. ☕ ☕

you don't have to

b) Furthermore, why must I be in a relationship right now? Is there something inherently wrong with me if I am single? Am I supposed to simply abandon all my standards and jump at the first person who shows a modicum of attraction? 😳 🍿 Yet, I observe that a vast majority of people simply give in to these societal pressures. ☕ ☕

you don't have to

Does that make you feel any better? 😁

Hold onto your standards... you maintain them for your own sake, not for anyone else... much like your character. And clearly, since you are observant of those around you, you are also observant of yourself... unfortunately, that is the price of awareness. You might as well just live life as it is. In my experience, having both awareness and intelligence is one of the few genuine advantages in this life.🙂
ambercrane722 ambercrane722 Active Member
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#55 ·
Just play along with the herd, man. Let them have their way, nod your head while they yap, and just smile through the nonsense... lol
George Lopez84 George Lopez84 Member
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#56 ·
Why? Because they lack character. Discussion closed.
Carl Rivera43 Carl Rivera43 Veteran
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#57 ·
Character?

Time passing and all those life lessons we pick up along the way really shape who we are, right? Not to mention our environment. It’s everything.

I honestly think character can change—and sometimes, maybe it *should* change. It probably feels a lot easier to make those shifts if you actually have some self-confidence backing you up.

A lot of people have been burned by life before. They've dealt with enough disappointments. So, instead of constantly fighting an uphill battle, they might just choose to take the path of least resistance.
steelwalker77 steelwalker77 Newcomer
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#58 ·
Ronald Jones said:I have a question regarding the topic in the title.

To illustrate my point, let me offer a few examples.

a) Suppose we attend a social gathering where, naturally, one is expected to drink something. What is the purpose of this, truly, if I am already aware that I don't enjoy it? In fact, I find the very notion of being obligated quite distasteful. Why is it that people succumb to this pressure, have a few drinks, and then subsequently expect that individual to actually get intoxicated? 😳 🙄 It is quite the same situation with cigarettes. 😳 😳

b) Furthermore, why is there such an obligation to be in a relationship right now? Is there something inherently wrong with me if I am single? Am I supposed to simply abandon all my standards and settle for the very first person who happens to be somewhat attractive? 😳 🍿 Yet, I observe that a vast number of people simply give in to these societal expectations. ☕ ☕

Why do people claim in an experiment that two lines are identical when they are clearly different, simply because the rest of the group suggests it through their answers? It's quite simple: a huge number of people suffer from a fear of social exclusion. They are willing to conform even in absurd situations because they are terrified of being isolated. It’s a vicious cycle where people preemptively mold themselves to what they perceive the environment wants and expects from them, regardless of how wrong or damaging that is to their individual integrity. Then, those "societal expectations" are shaped by various media outlets specifically to manipulate a mass of frightened individuals.

In these experiments, it’s also noted that some individuals find the courage to state their true opinion or observation if someone else has already voiced it—regardless of the others who are saying the opposite and are obviously wrong. It is clearly a major societal issue that such a vast number of people avoid being the one to break the ice and say or do exactly what they think or feel.
Ronald Jones Ronald Jones Active MemberOP
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#59 ·
To really round out this whole Milsim concept, you have to consider this (🤣 🤣 ):

"The strength of the mob lies in their refusal to ever leave the pack."

Niccolo Berac
silentpanther84 silentpanther84 Newcomer
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#60 ·
I’m convinced social pressure only works on people who lack self-confidence—those desperate to cling to local customs just to feel like they belong.

I was talking to a guy recently who deals with some kind of physical disability. He told me he felt completely invisible to his peers until he started living on nothing but junk food and processed snacks. It spiraled; he ended up dropping out of college shortly after. Now, I’m left wondering: is society at fault here, or is it just his own failure? I honestly can't tell.

Personally, I’ve never felt the need to drink just because someone else is pouring a shot, nor have I ever picked up a cigarette just because the person next to me did. I don't look down on people with different lifestyles, either. Most people in my circle are deeply religious, whereas I’m an atheist. I’ve never felt pressured to change my ways because of it; if anything, that friction makes for much better conversation when we start debating current events over a drink.

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