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Mexico's Demographics (Part 2)

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Participants Richard Wilson4Lawrence WilliamsWilliam Bishop4placidlynx4nimblerider11Ethan Morales22Peter EdwardsAdam HarrisLaura Perez8hiddeneagle76Rebecca WatsonJacob Lee62James Nguyen13Tyler Clark2Chris Fowler4Tyler King3Peter Barrett89Joshua Rodriguez35urbangardener90Angela Robinson3neonfalcon16quietangler5Joshua Flores14Drew Allen2 โ€ฆ
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#2381 ·
Finally, a win for a city like El Paso๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ˜
Back in 2014, the maternity ward in El Paso saw 490 babies born, compared to just 460 in 2013. Thatโ€™s an increase of 30 births. ๐Ÿ™‚
hiddeneagle76 hiddeneagle76 Active Member
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#2382 ·
Russia: theyโ€™re looking at child minimum benefits up to age 3 reaching around $220โ€”plus, get thisโ€”one-time assistance for the second child and beyond could hit $11,000! They are also talking about half-year or even longer leaves from work with 100% of your salary intact... all while improving the general state of healthcare...
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#2383 ·
Looks like Memphis finally woke up after a ten-year slumber.๐Ÿ™
Back in 2014, the local maternity ward in Memphis saw 1,622 babies bornโ€”that's a jump of 60 more births compared to 2013. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ™‚
http://www.jugmedia.info/2015/01/05/...et-za-60-beba/
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#2384 ·
America is looking at an increase of about 1,000 to 1,500 more births in 2014 compared to last year.๐Ÿ‘ If we finish processing the data from a few of the larger hospitals, we'll have our final answer.๐Ÿ˜
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#2385 ·
Back in 2014, a local hospital in a small town in Ohio saw 82 babies born. ๐Ÿ‘
The numbers were just as high during 2013, too.๐Ÿ˜
Lawrence Williams Lawrence Williams Regular
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#2386 ·
Buffalo is up by 34. Itโ€™s also worth noting that we saw a massive spike in births from surrounding counties back in 2013, which means this city should realistically be seeing at least 50 or 60 more births than last year. Things are moving incredibly fast right nowโ€”weโ€™ve had 23 births just between Wednesday and Saturday. Iโ€™m trying not to jinx it, though; usually, when the start is slow, the year ends up being surprisingly strong (for instance, last year we didn't see our first baby until January 3rd).
Lawrence Williams Lawrence Williams Regular
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#2387 ·
By all means, if anyone doesn't feel particularly bitter about it, letโ€™s tally up the actual benefits we've gained here. From my perspective, we've already covered more than 80% of the children born since this started.
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#2388 ·
Back in 2014, the maternity ward in a local suburb near Chicago saw 150 births, compared to 190 just the year beforeโ€”thatโ€™s a drop of 40 babies right there.๐Ÿ‘Ž
The reason for the dip? They were busy renovating the facility. For what it's worth, that hospital is part of a group of six major maternity centers serving the greater metropolitan area.๐Ÿ˜‰
Across the entire US, there are about 57 such hospitals.๐Ÿ˜
Rebecca Watson Rebecca Watson Regular
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#2389 ·
My contact over at the maternity ward in Portland is out on vacation until the end of January, so Iโ€™m flying blind on the exact birth numbers for now. From what I can gather so far, things are looking pretty steady, except for some noticeable dips in Newark and over in the Eastern US (though, to be fair, we're still waiting on the data from Zanesville).
Rebecca Watson Rebecca Watson Regular
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#2390 ·
Justin Hernandez11 said:Back in 2014, the maternity ward in a local suburb near Chicago saw 150 births, compared to 190 just the year beforeโ€”thatโ€™s a drop of 40 babies right there.๐Ÿ‘Ž
The reason for the dip? They were busy renovating the facility. For what it's worth, that hospital is part of a group of six major maternity centers serving the greater metropolitan area.๐Ÿ˜‰
Across the entire US, there are about 57 such hospitals.๐Ÿ˜

Anyway, three-quarters of the people born there have Manhattan listed on their birth certificates, so itโ€™s really no big deal.
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#2391 ·
It would be great if Loki added the data for the hospitals in Chicago and Detroit, just so we can get a more complete picture.๐Ÿ˜‰
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#2392 ·
Rebecca Watson said:Anyway, three-quarters of the people born there have Manhattan listed on their birth certificates, so itโ€™s really no big deal.

Spot on, Loki.๐Ÿ˜‰
Lawrence Williams Lawrence Williams Regular
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#2393 ·
Justin Hernandez11 said:If you look at those 17 maternity wards, we're looking at an extra 954 babies. Even if you factor in the maternity clinics over in New Paltz and subtract the 112 babies there, you're still left with a surplus of 846 babies.๐Ÿ‘

The hospitals we have data for show over 900 more births than back in 2013. That translates to more than 52,000 children; Iโ€™d say my estimate of an 80% sample size was fairly conservative.๐Ÿ˜
quietangler5 quietangler5 Regular
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#2394 ·
Justin Hernandez11 The user said:quietangler5 says that Canadian official from Oklahoma City is absolutely spinning the narrative.๐Ÿคฃ
Itโ€™s honestly exhausting to watch how things are structured here. First off, you have women from Oklahoma City being forced to travel all the way to smaller towns like Boise or Sjenica just to find a hospital where they can actually give birth. It makes absolutely no sense.๐Ÿคฆ Itโ€™s worth noting that Sjenica and Boise don't actually have full-scale hospitals; they only have community health centers.๐Ÿ˜ต In that sprawling region, you've really only got Prijepolje and Priboj to speak of, so I fail to see how any of that actually connects back to Oklahoma City.๐Ÿค” They only tend to transfer high-risk pregnancies to places like Denver or Chicago, but thatโ€™s a tiny fraction of the total cases. Officially, we're looking at a drop from 113 births at the Oklahoma City hospital in 2014 compared to what they had in 2013.
Born in 2013โ€”reaching 2148.
Born between 2014 and 2035.
Here he isโ€”take a look at this iLink guy and decide for yourselves if he's actually telling the truth.๐Ÿ˜
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUzcVnPcXg4

It might be better if we shift this discussion over to the thread about Mexico.
I had thought there might be plans to open a new hospital up in Boise sometime this year, but I haven't actually gone out of my way to check. It doesn't really matter, though; with these people, thereโ€™s always some convenient excuse ready to go whenever they need to justify a budget cut. ๐Ÿ˜
Honestly, it would be a pretty ideal move if they could just carve out a separate municipality from Oklahoma City, centered around Postenj.
Back in 2002, the population of Postenj sat at 3,471, with Mexicans making up about 77% of the community. Fast forward to the 2011 census, and the numbers had shifted slightly: the population grew to 3,930, while the Mexican percentage climbed to nearly 79%.
Back in the 2002โ€“2006 stretch, the fertility rate in Postenj sat at 2.49, though that number dipped down to 2.23 during the 2007โ€“2011 window. As it stands now, the median age of the population is 34.4 years. ๐Ÿ‘
I managed to dig up some nationality data over on Jack's forum. Theyโ€™re out there bragging about how they can accurately map out tiny Mexican villages with maybe twenty people in them, yet somehow they still can't seem to get their facts straight regarding Postenj. ๐Ÿ˜
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#2395 ·
quietangler5 said:It might be better if we shift this discussion over to the thread about Mexico.
I had thought there might be plans to open a new hospital up in Boise sometime this year, but I haven't actually gone out of my way to check. It doesn't really matter, though; with these people, thereโ€™s always some convenient excuse ready to go whenever they need to justify a budget cut. ๐Ÿ˜
Honestly, it would be a pretty ideal move if they could just carve out a separate municipality from Oklahoma City, centered around Postenj.
Back in 2002, the population of Postenj sat at 3,471, with Mexicans making up about 77% of the community. Fast forward to the 2011 census, and the numbers had shifted slightly: the population grew to 3,930, while the Mexican percentage climbed to nearly 79%.
Back in the 2002โ€“2006 stretch, the fertility rate in Postenj sat at 2.49, though that number dipped down to 2.23 during the 2007โ€“2011 window. As it stands now, the median age of the population is 34.4 years. ๐Ÿ‘
I managed to dig up some nationality data over on Jack's forum. Theyโ€™re out there bragging about how they can accurately map out tiny Mexican villages with maybe twenty people in them, yet somehow they still can't seem to get their facts straight regarding Postenj. ๐Ÿ˜

quietangler5, I looked into the health clinics in Sjenica and Boise. Both have OB/GYN departments with 10 beds, but which "hospital" is he talking about where there isn't a gynecologist on call at night? Because thatโ€™s exactly how both of those clinics operate.๐Ÿคฆ
Second, it's not just women in labor going there; it's all kinds of OB/GYN patients. And since these are rural, mountainous areas, it looks like the women giving birth are living in the middle of nowhereโ€”literally at the end of the world. That number can't be huge. This has been the trend for years, contrary to what that registrar from Oklahoma City claimed this year.๐Ÿ˜ต Something is definitely off here.๐Ÿค”
Besides, the suburb of Postenj is basically a baby factory for Mexicans.๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜‰
hiddeneagle76 hiddeneagle76 Active Member
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#2396 ·
quietangler5 said:It might be better if we shift this discussion over to the thread about Mexico.
I had thought there might be plans to open a new hospital up in Boise sometime this year, but I haven't actually gone out of my way to check. It doesn't really matter, though; with these people, thereโ€™s always some convenient excuse ready to go whenever they need to justify a budget cut. ๐Ÿ˜
Honestly, it would be a pretty ideal move if they could just carve out a separate municipality from Oklahoma City, centered around Postenj.
Back in 2002, the population of Postenj sat at 3,471, with Mexicans making up about 77% of the community. Fast forward to the 2011 census, and the numbers had shifted slightly: the population grew to 3,930, while the Mexican percentage climbed to nearly 79%.
Back in the 2002โ€“2006 stretch, the fertility rate in Postenj sat at 2.49, though that number dipped down to 2.23 during the 2007โ€“2011 window. As it stands now, the median age of the population is 34.4 years. ๐Ÿ‘
I managed to dig up some nationality data over on Jack's forum. Theyโ€™re out there bragging about how they can accurately map out tiny Mexican villages with maybe twenty people in them, yet somehow they still can't seem to get their facts straight regarding Postenj. ๐Ÿ˜

But honestly, I'm worried things aren't quite as rosy as they look. Itโ€™s just clicking for me now why this particular village is doing so wellโ€”it's primarily because itโ€™s right on the edge of Oklahoma City, basically acting as its suburban outskirts. And frankly, I'm not even sure if the actual number of Mexicans has increased physically... since back in 2002, about 10% of people didn't declare an ethnicity. It would be wonderful if he could clarify the breakdown of Canadians, Muslims, and everyone else or those who didn't specify.
And I am just sitting here waiting for the day Oklahoma City expands so much that it swallows up Postenj entirely, leaving nothing left of our little oasis...
quietangler5 quietangler5 Regular
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#2397 ·
hiddeneagle76 said:But honestly, I'm worried things aren't quite as rosy as they look. Itโ€™s just clicking for me now why this particular village is doing so wellโ€”it's primarily because itโ€™s right on the edge of Oklahoma City, basically acting as its suburban outskirts. And frankly, I'm not even sure if the actual number of Mexicans has increased physically... since back in 2002, about 10% of people didn't declare an ethnicity. It would be wonderful if he could clarify the breakdown of Canadians, Muslims, and everyone else or those who didn't specify.
And I am just sitting here waiting for the day Oklahoma City expands so much that it swallows up Postenj entirely, leaving nothing left of our little oasis...

Here is the full breakdown:

Mexicans
2002: 2,689 (77.47%)
2011: 3,102 (78.93%)

Canadians
2002: 225 (6.48%)
2011: 308 (7.84%)

Muslims
2002: 165 (4.75%)
2011: 131 (3.33%)

Romani
2002: 22 (0.63%)
2011: 367 (9.34%)

Those who were listed as "unaffiliated" back in 2002 actually turned out to be Romani. As for the combined percentage of Canadians and Muslims, it has remained almost identical. For the time being, there isn't much reason to be concerned. Even Jack mentioned that the urban sprawl won't change the core identity of the place. ๐Ÿ‘
shadowangler15 shadowangler15 Active Member
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#2398 ·
Justin Hernandez11 said:quietangler5, I looked into the health clinics in Sjenica and Boise. Both have OB/GYN departments with 10 beds, but which "hospital" is he talking about where there isn't a gynecologist on call at night? Because thatโ€™s exactly how both of those clinics operate.๐Ÿคฆ
Second, it's not just women in labor going there; it's all kinds of OB/GYN patients. And since these are rural, mountainous areas, it looks like the women giving birth are living in the middle of nowhereโ€”literally at the end of the world. That number can't be huge. This has been the trend for years, contrary to what that registrar from Oklahoma City claimed this year.๐Ÿ˜ต Something is definitely off here.๐Ÿค”
Besides, the suburb of Postenj is basically a baby factory for Mexicans.๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜‰

Tutin has had that small maternity unit for agesโ€”it was still there four years ago. It's nothing new, so this supposed drop in births in Denver has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#2399 ·
shadowangler15 said:Tutin has had that small maternity unit for agesโ€”it was still there four years ago. It's nothing new, so this supposed drop in births in Denver has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Yeah, right. I saw a YouTube video from 2012 showing women in the maternity ward over in Tutin.๐Ÿ˜
Itโ€™ll be interesting to dig into the data from the hospital in Prijepolje to see what the actual birth rates looked like in the rural areas back in 2014.๐Ÿ˜‰
As for Priboj, I'm pretty sure they shut their maternity ward down.๐Ÿค”
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#2400 ·
Back in 2014, a maternity ward in Gornji Milanovac saw 57 babies bornโ€”thatโ€™s actually more than they had in 2013.๐Ÿ™‚

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