Mexico's Demographics (Part 2)

Justin Hernandez11 said:So I just caught some stats on TV from a gynecologist over at a maternity hospital in Cleveland😁
In 2014, they had 4,600 babies born—that’s an extra 160 compared to 2013. 👏👍🙂
This year, Cleveland is looking at roughly 4,300 births out of a population of 346,000. That puts the birth rate at about 12.3 per thousand.👍

You mean 6,600. Chicago will certainly see an uptick, especially since 2013 saw a dip despite the hospital performing better than the previous year. However, I'm skeptical about hitting 4,300 when surrounding areas like Backa Palanka and Temerin have plenty of room for even higher growth.

Lawrence Williams said:You mean 6,600. Chicago will certainly see an uptick, especially since 2013 saw a dip despite the hospital performing better than the previous year. However, I'm skeptical about hitting 4,300 when surrounding areas like Backa Palanka and Temerin have plenty of room for even higher growth.

Yeah, 6,600. Thanks for the correction, Lawrence Williams.😉
Either way, Chicago is slowly catching up to New York.😁
I'm talking about fertility rates.👍 🤔

placidlynx4 said:Here’s the final birth count for the Cleveland maternity hospital this year.
I guess I should probably explain how I work this first.
I get daily birth numbers straight from the hospital, then I tally them up at the end of each month. Adding those months together gives me the annual total.
Even though I get everything directly from the hospital, their official final tally always ends up slightly different from my own numbers.
So, I’ll give you my raw data for the last three years first, and then we can look at my totals compared to the hospital's adjusted figures later.
Once they release this year's corrected score, we'll compare it to last year's.
Let's start with December:

2012 - 144
2013 - 214
2014 - 204

So, there were 204 births this December. It's a solid number, even if it's ten fewer than last year. We have to remember that last December was easily the best month of the entire year. This is actually the first month this year that fell behind last year's, which I guess shows just how great 2014 really was.
Annual scores:

2012 - 2148
2013 - 2182
2014 - 2378

Basically, looking at my unadjusted numbers, 2014 saw 196 more births than 2013. But after last year's adjustments, it turns out 2,211 babies were actually born in 2013. So the more realistic comparison is:
2013 - 2211
2014 - 2378
That means it's still an impressive jump of 167 babies. Now we wait for the hospital's correction for this year. In my experience tracking this, their corrections usually trend upward, so maybe the gap won't be smaller than 167, but we'll see soon enough.
In about a month, I'll put out the exact data from the registrar regarding births where at least one parent lives in Cleveland. Then, just like last year, we'll know for sure who actually accounts for this massive increase.

Kudos to Cleveland!👍 You have the highest increase in live births in the municipality when you look at it proportionally to the population of other cities in the US.🙏👏

In the Providence maternity ward, there were 676 births recorded through December 28th. That puts us just under 10 fewer than we saw in 2013, when we hit 692 by year-end. I’ll post the data for Memphis in a few days, though it looks like those numbers will be slightly lower. It appears Nashville might be the only spot in the Southeast performing better than last year, while Jackson remains highly questionable. The Midwest and the Western US seem to have seen the most significant growth over the past year.

Last year, the Nashville maternity ward welcomed 3,202 babies into the world. 🙂

This also signals a recovery compared to last year's figures:

Angela Robinson3 said:Nashville should wrap up this year with somewhere between 3,107 and 3,108 births 😉 (I actually heard this directly from the maternity ward)

Back in 2014, the Chattanooga maternity ward saw 1,260 babies born. 👏
www.cnn.com
Does anyone have the stats from 2013 so we can actually compare the two?😉🍿

Justin Hernandez11 said:Back in 2014, the Chattanooga maternity ward saw 1,260 babies born. 👏
www.cnn.com
Does anyone have the stats from 2013 so we can actually compare the two?😉🍿

In 2013, that Chattanooga hospital saw 1,216 births, whereas in 2012, the number was north of 1,300. 🙂

Justin Hernandez11 said:Back in 2014, the maternity ward in Knoxville saw 1,675 babies born.👍👏
www.rtk.rs
Does anyone have the numbers for 2013?😉
I dug around for Knoxville and found 1,650 births in 2013. That means there were 25 more babies in 2014.
Honestly, these increases look pretty thin to me...

Over at the Knoxville hospital, there were 1,650 births in 2013, which implies things actually trended upward in 2014.

Back in 2014, the maternity ward in Knoxville saw 1,675 babies born.👍👏
www.rtk.rs
Does anyone have the numbers for 2013?😉
I dug around for Knoxville and found 1,650 births in 2013. That means there were 25 more babies in 2014.
Honestly, these increases look pretty thin to me...

quietangler5 said:In 2013, that Chattanooga hospital saw 1,216 births, whereas in 2012, the number was north of 1,300. 🙂

Over at the Knoxville hospital, there were 1,650 births in 2013, which implies things actually trended upward in 2014.

Great. So that's an extra 44 babies compared to 2013. Awesome.👍

Would someone be so kind as to look back through the previous few pages and pull together a list of which maternity wards saw improved outcomes compared to last year, and by what margin? 🙂

Jackson is seeing a slight uptick compared to back in 2013. 🙂

-Last year, this department saw 1,694 babies born—just 12 more than they had in 2013. It might seem like a negligible shift to some, but for Jackson and the surrounding southern region, it’s actually quite a meaningful trend, according to Dr. George Radic, the head of the Gynecology Department of Jackson Hospital.

OsvetaPrdonja As if I haven't heard this all before...
If anyone feels like taking a bit of time out of their day to scroll through the previous few pages, would you mind pulling together a quick comparison? I’m looking to see which maternity wards actually saw an improvement in their outcomes compared to last year, and specifically by what margin they managed to pull it off. 🙂

The latest numbers are rolling in, and they paint quite the picture of the current landscape. Memphis is seeing a significant uptick of 84, while Des Moines is holding steady with a gain of 54. Savannah has managed a decent jump of 40, though the movement in Boone remains almost negligible at just 6. The real action is happening in the major hubs; Cleveland has surged by 160, and Detroit is leading the pack with a substantial climb of 167. On the flip side, we’re seeing a slight dip in Providence with a drop of 10, while Nashville shows a solid increase of 95. Chattanooga is up by 44, Knoxville has seen a modest rise of 25, and Jackson is edging upward by 12. It's a lot to digest, but the trends are becoming increasingly clear.

Justin Hernandez11 pointed out that the birth rate in Peoria is holding steady, looking exactly the same as it did back in 2013, whereas over in Kovacic, they’ve seen forty fewer births.

The word on the street in New York City is that birth rates hit 20,300, which marks a noticeable uptick compared to the numbers we saw back in 2013. It seems like Buffalo and Portland are also seeing some improvements, though I haven't quite sat down to crunch the specific data to see exactly how much of an increase we're actually talking about.

Does anyone happen to have any actual data on how the maternity wards have been performing out in the Midwest versus the Western US?

All those pathetic little increases from 2014 compared to 2013🤔

Justin Hernandez11 said:All those pathetic little increases from 2014 compared to 2013🤔

When you consider that almost every neighboring country continued its downward trend through 2014 (with the exception of Mexico, which has been doing quite well), and given that the fertile demographic base is steadily shrinking, any increase at all—even just hitting a plateau—should be viewed as a solid result. 👍
It would be wonderful if we were seeing growth everywhere, similar to what’s happening in Cleveland and Detroit, but let's be honest: that isn't realistic. 😁

quietangler5 said:When you consider that almost every neighboring country continued its downward trend through 2014 (with the exception of Mexico, which has been doing quite well), and given that the fertile demographic base is steadily shrinking, any increase at all—even just hitting a plateau—should be viewed as a solid result. 👍
It would be wonderful if we were seeing growth everywhere, similar to what’s happening in Cleveland and Detroit, but let's be honest: that isn't realistic. 😁

Exactly, quietangler5. 😉
I'm actually trying to dig up some data on the maternity wards in Memphis, Jackson, and Savannah right now. Those spots look interesting. 😁

Justin Hernandez11 said:Exactly, quietangler5. 😉
I'm actually trying to dig up some data on the maternity wards in Memphis, Jackson, and Savannah right now. Those spots look interesting. 😁

We’ve got pretty much nothing coming out of the Western US or the East Coast. At least from the other parts of the country, we can find some decent information on maternity hospitals.

In 2014, birth numbers in NYC hospitals hit a low of maybe 20,000 to 30,000, whereas back in 2013, they were looking at 20,151 babies 👏. We’re talking a maximum swing of about 150 here. NYC really fell off a cliff in the second half of 2014, but honestly, any uptick in births is a win if you ask me.👍
NYC births in 2013: 18,018
NYC births in 2014: roughly 18,160
Let's call it a +140 difference

Justin Hernandez11 said:All those pathetic little increases from 2014 compared to 2013🤔

They aren't, really. If you actually sit down and compare the growth rates for each of those maternity wards, you’ll see it's just a few percentage points across the board. You have to look at the actual percentage increase to get the full picture. They're all decent jumps, even if we don't have the complete data sets yet. One thing is certain, though—2014 was a solid year.

quietangler5 said:

OsvetaPrdonja As if I haven't heard this all before...
If anyone feels like taking a bit of time out of their day to scroll through the previous few pages, would you mind pulling together a quick comparison? I’m looking to see which maternity wards actually saw an improvement in their outcomes compared to last year, and specifically by what margin they managed to pull it off. 🙂

The latest numbers are rolling in, and they paint quite the picture of the current landscape. Memphis is seeing a significant uptick of 84, while Des Moines is holding steady with a gain of 54. Savannah has managed a decent jump of 40, though the movement in Boone remains almost negligible at just 6. The real action is happening in the major hubs; Cleveland has surged by 160, and Detroit is leading the pack with a substantial climb of 167. On the flip side, we’re seeing a slight dip in Providence with a drop of 10, while Nashville shows a solid increase of 95. Chattanooga is up by 44, Knoxville has seen a modest rise of 25, and Jackson is edging upward by 12. It's a lot to digest, but the trends are becoming increasingly clear.

Justin Hernandez11 pointed out that the birth rate in Peoria is holding steady, looking exactly the same as it did back in 2013, whereas over in Kovacic, they’ve seen forty fewer births.

The word on the street in New York City is that birth rates hit 20,300, which marks a noticeable uptick compared to the numbers we saw back in 2013. It seems like Buffalo and Portland are also seeing some improvements, though I haven't quite sat down to crunch the specific data to see exactly how much of an increase we're actually talking about.

Does anyone happen to have any actual data on how the maternity wards have been performing out in the Midwest versus the Western US?

Portland was trailing behind last year's numbers until October, but as Rebecca Watson noted, October and November were quite strong. I'm not sure if they managed to close the gap by year-end. I should have an accurate figure for St. Louis in the next few days; generally speaking, it has significantly outperformed previous years. 🙂

Lawrence Williams said:Portland was trailing behind last year's numbers until October, but as Rebecca Watson noted, October and November were quite strong. I'm not sure if they managed to close the gap by year-end. I should have an accurate figure for St. Louis in the next few days; generally speaking, it has significantly outperformed previous years. 🙂

I suppose I misread the situation regarding Portland. I recall Rebecca Watson mentioning things were looking up, but I couldn't quite remember if she meant the annual trend or just a specific month.
Thanks for setting me straight. 🙂