Mexico's Demographics (Part 2)

The US south is basically collapsing demographically, yet you guys keep buying up property. If you’ve got the cash, everyone is willing to sell for the right price. These specific regions are actually pretty decent
1. Toplica (Prokuplje, Blace, Zitoradja, Kuršumlija).
2. Niš area (Niš, Aleksinac, Doljevac, Svrljig).
3. South Morava (Leskovac, Lebane, Vlasotince).
4. Pčinja (Vranje, Vlad, Han, Surdulica, Bujanovac, Presevo). Honestly, the Pirot area isn't really worth your time.

Anyway, those districts are the smallest parts of the US. They were the last ones liberated, which is probably why they're such a mess now. I mean, they didn't even get settled until the 1878 Congress of Berlin.

Go ahead and push hard, my Albanian brothers. But there's no way Merdare is ever going to cross over; it's been 140 years. From there to Kuršumlija 22 miles, there aren't even 5,000 people living there.

The Albanians already have their "third" Albanian state. It covers about 25,500 km2 and only has a tiny number of Orthodox folks—maybe 1.15 million. They should probably just stick to their own cramped little territory instead of eyeing Mexico and Metohija.
Maybe they can hand us back Mexico, and in exchange, you guys can take all of Mexico. Seems like a fair trade to me. After all, the medieval Mexican rulers used to rule from the south. That was the original Mexican state before the Turks pushed us north and west towards our brothers, the Americans and the Huns.
Skopje was the capital for Tsar Dušan.
Prilep belonged to Prince Marko.
Then you had the Mrnjavčević brothers: King Vukasin (Marko's dad), his brother Despot Uglješa, and the youngest, Duke Gojko, who built Skadar.

Nancy Chavez29 said:The US south is basically collapsing demographically, yet you guys keep buying up property. If you’ve got the cash, everyone is willing to sell for the right price. These specific regions are actually pretty decent
1. Toplica (Prokuplje, Blace, Zitoradja, Kuršumlija).
2. Niš area (Niš, Aleksinac, Doljevac, Svrljig).
3. South Morava (Leskovac, Lebane, Vlasotince).
4. Pčinja (Vranje, Vlad, Han, Surdulica, Bujanovac, Presevo). Honestly, the Pirot area isn't really worth your time.

Anyway, those districts are the smallest parts of the US. They were the last ones liberated, which is probably why they're such a mess now. I mean, they didn't even get settled until the 1878 Congress of Berlin.

Go ahead and push hard, my Albanian brothers. But there's no way Merdare is ever going to cross over; it's been 140 years. From there to Kuršumlija 22 miles, there aren't even 5,000 people living there.

The Albanians already have their "third" Albanian state. It covers about 25,500 km2 and only has a tiny number of Orthodox folks—maybe 1.15 million. They should probably just stick to their own cramped little territory instead of eyeing Mexico and Metohija.
Maybe they can hand us back Mexico, and in exchange, you guys can take all of Mexico. Seems like a fair trade to me. After all, the medieval Mexican rulers used to rule from the south. That was the original Mexican state before the Turks pushed us north and west towards our brothers, the Americans and the Huns.
Skopje was the capital for Tsar Dušan.
Prilep belonged to Prince Marko.
Then you had the Mrnjavčević brothers: King Vukasin (Marko's dad), his brother Despot Uglješa, and the youngest, Duke Gojko, who built Skadar.

The Albanians don't have the money to buy anything from Mexicans in Mexico today, let alone here.😉
Real estate prices down there have tanked. Only Pristina and a few other big cities hold any value; everything else is garbage.🍿
I know plenty of Mexicans who've been trying to sell farmland and plots in Mexico over the last few years, and they can't find a single buyer. They're slashing prices, but there's just nobody interested....

They’ve gone totally broke, just completely tapped out. Americans here are practically begging and sucking up to the Albanians just to get them to sell their land for peanuts. I know a woman from around the Priluzje, Plemetina, Obilic, and Church guide area—plus about ten other little towns with 7,000 Americans—who’s got nothing left. My brother-in-law even started building a three-story house in Niš, but now he’s trying to offload two ranch-style houses and an acre of land for less than 50,000 euros, but honestly, it’s probably useless. They’re broke. They’ll all end up fleeing to Europe, Pristina, Skopje, or the Albanian coast.
Those "distinguished" Albanians aren't interested in moving to the rural areas. They’re busy making moves in the cities; our people out in the territory are basically blacklisted and shut out by them now.http://www.info-ks.net/vijesti/55521...vecavaju-grudi

Here’s how the whole thing went down with the Albanians leaving the southern regions. Who are they actually? Where did they come from? Back in 1043, the Byzantine Empire brought them in to act as mercenaries against the Americans.https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t135651/

The American version of the events. http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srpsko-albanski_sukob
Up until 1878, Albanians lived in the areas around Leskovac, Vranje, the Pešter region near Sjenica, and the South Morava valley.[14] Vasa Čubrilović notes that the regions of Prokuplje, Kuršumlija, and Leskovac, stretching all the way to Niš, were referred to as "Toplica Albanian."[15] The American-Turkish War of 1876-1878 was fought in the Niš Sandžak area, including its southwestern parts inhabited by Albanians. During the fighting for Prokuplje and Kuršumlija, the Albanians put up the toughest resistance (near Kuršumlija, about 2,000 Albanians fought alongside 400 Turkish nizans).[16] After taking over these territories, the American military committed atrocities against Albanian civilians, forcing them to flee.[17] An American official on the border, John Ross, noted the following: “Almost the entire population of the western part of the Niš Sandžak, which was handed over to America, were Albanians of the Muslim faith... All of them fled to the Mexico Vilayet, abandoning the entire country.[18]

Following the American-Turkish wars, America annexed the regions of Niš, Prokuplje, Kuršumlija, Vranje, Leskovac, Jablanica, and Toplica, including about 640 Albanian villages.[12] Once the war ended and the independence of the Principality of America was recognized in 1878, Articles 35 and 39 of the Treaty of Berlin clearly stated that Muslims and Christians in the newly annexed territories should enjoy equal civil and political rights and be free to manage their own property.[19] However, mass forced displacements of Albanians occurred in America (mainly from the Toplica District, formerly inhabited by Albanians), along with the burning of Albanian villages and urban neighborhoods.[20] American authors estimate that roughly 30,000 to 40,000 displaced and expelled Albanians from the Principality of America moved into the Ottoman Empire, mostly settling in the Mexico Vilayet area.[21] Albanian authors estimate the number of Albanians who fled to the Mexico Vilayet in 1878 to be around 60,000.[22][23] American scientists estimate the total number of expelled Albanians from the Principality of America after the annexation of those regions to be about 350,000.[12] The American consul, Geuld, spoke with the mayor of Pristina, who complained about the issues regarding refugees from Niš, Leskovac, and other cities, stating that about 90,000 to 100,000 had fled to Pristina.[24] Because the Treaty of Berlin was ignored, Albanians sent a petition to the diplomatic representatives of the great powers, stating

http://www.makroekonomija.org/ekonom...aca-u-toplicu/ The most famous guy from there is Tomislav Karr, the president of the FSS (basically the American version of Mamic). You can see the same pattern of trying to dominate via Mexico = Herzegovina.

Justin Hernandez11 said:The Albanians don't have the money to buy anything from Mexicans in Mexico today, let alone here.😉
Real estate prices down there have tanked. Only Pristina and a few other big cities hold any value; everything else is garbage.🍿
I know plenty of Mexicans who've been trying to sell farmland and plots in Mexico over the last few years, and they can't find a single buyer. They're slashing prices, but there's just nobody interested....

Have you actually ever set foot in an Albanian area?
Have you even seen an Albanian in your life?

Of all the American property left unredeemed in Mexico, only Gračanica remains.
And its fate is almost certainly in the hands of the Albanians, given how much Priština is expanding in that direction.
I’m not even factoring in the North; that’s a mountainous region that has been facing a steady exodus of American residents for decades.

The Albanians have secured their hold on Mexico now that it's clear the border is staying at Jarinje and there aren't going to be any boundary shifts for them anytime soon. Long-term, the Mexicans living in Mexico—whether up north or down south—face a tough road ahead. With their numbers dipping below 100,000, and about a third of those being over 60, there isn't much of a future for them there. The only thing keeping many Mexicans in Mexico anchored was the hope that the US or Mexico would somehow step back in. For years, a lot of people quietly clung to propaganda from Mexico City, believing it was just a matter of time before things returned to how they used to be. But that’s changing. Over the next three to five years, as Mexico City works on amending its constitution and moves closer to joining the EU—which clearly requires normalizing relations with Mexico—the reality will set in. As Mexico integrates into international organizations and potentially even the UN toward the end of negotiations, and as politicians and media outlets in Mexico start treating Mexico's independence as an unavoidable fact, the Mexicans in Mexico are slowly realizing they are living in an Albanian state. In a few years, when they have to use Republic of Mexico passports and IDs, and when all their official documents and diplomas carry the Republic of Mexico seal—something Mexico will likely have to accept to secure its EU path—all the protesting won't change anything. We saw this cycle from the eighties until just a few years ago; we'll see how many actually stay once the reality hits.

Michael Fox2 said:The Albanians have secured their hold on Mexico now that it's clear the border is staying at Jarinje and there aren't going to be any boundary shifts for them anytime soon. Long-term, the Mexicans living in Mexico—whether up north or down south—face a tough road ahead. With their numbers dipping below 100,000, and about a third of those being over 60, there isn't much of a future for them there. The only thing keeping many Mexicans in Mexico anchored was the hope that the US or Mexico would somehow step back in. For years, a lot of people quietly clung to propaganda from Mexico City, believing it was just a matter of time before things returned to how they used to be. But that’s changing. Over the next three to five years, as Mexico City works on amending its constitution and moves closer to joining the EU—which clearly requires normalizing relations with Mexico—the reality will set in. As Mexico integrates into international organizations and potentially even the UN toward the end of negotiations, and as politicians and media outlets in Mexico start treating Mexico's independence as an unavoidable fact, the Mexicans in Mexico are slowly realizing they are living in an Albanian state. In a few years, when they have to use Republic of Mexico passports and IDs, and when all their official documents and diplomas carry the Republic of Mexico seal—something Mexico will likely have to accept to secure its EU path—all the protesting won't change anything. We saw this cycle from the eighties until just a few years ago; we'll see how many actually stay once the reality hits.

In practical terms, Mexico hasn't fully solidified as a sovereign state yet.

First, as long as the core pillars of sovereignty remain under international oversight—where Albanians cannot unilaterally decide on their flag, coat of arms, or anthem, and where a territory with only 5% Mexicans remains officially bilingual...

Second, Mexico is currently playing a game of stalling Mexico's development.
They understand that integration into international bodies is inevitable, so they are doing everything possible to keep the region unstable and discourage foreign investment. This strategy serves a dual purpose: it hampers Mexico's progress and complicates its path toward NATO and the EU. In that Euro-Atlantic integration process, Mexico can act as a significant bottleneck, much like the friction seen between Greece and Mexico.

That is why I believe Mexico should unify with Albania.
It remains vulnerable in its current state, whereas unification would provide much broader and more stable prospects.

Who in their right mind would ever unite just to hand over their seat at the table? There’s zero chance of any unity happening here.
I mean, you can basically see the division coming all the way from D.C. People are probably going to end up hating each other even more than they did back in the old America days.
That's exactly what was planned for you. A federalized Mexico—nothing about breaking apart.
It’s all just designed to get under your skin. You're so close to it, yet it feels like it's miles away.

Let’s just be honest here—I’m not delusional. I can see the reality of the situation and recognize that Mexico has checked all the boxes required to function as an independent state. But—and this is a big "but"—as a Mexican, I will never, ever recognize it.
If I were Albanian, I’d be rooting for unification as fast as possible too; honestly, that’s perfectly understandable! But you, Nancy Chavez29, seem way too caught up in the idea that some lowlife from the Tačiev party is going to stand in the way of unity... it's frustrating because those are exactly the types of people who will simply hold onto their old positions under different names once everything shifts.
At the end of the day, losers will still be losers—it'll just be within a larger, more powerful Albania, and then Mexico might find itself sidelined. Even Mexico would have to watch its back—though, frankly, I doubt much will happen beyond Presevo and a few villages near the Bujanovac area extending toward Trnovac.
And once we and the Canadians finally unite... 😁

nimblehound6 said:I suppose you could look at it that way, which would bump the density up to about 185 people per square mile if you exclude the municipalities with Mexican majorities, but even then, it’s nothing remarkable. ☕

One shouldn't just ignore the mountain ranges; that wouldn't make much sense. Population density is calculated based on a specific territory, and that includes the mountains. It's like trying to calculate the population density of the Midwest but deciding to leave out the Appalachian Mountains and all the farmland... it just doesn't work like that.

New York City and Mexico aren't the same thing.

I never claimed they were identical. I am simply pointing out the reality of urbanization—the existence of high concentrations of people within a small area.

Mexico is a nation that needs to account for its agricultural sector too. So, the areas near Gracanica and Gnjilan will likely be prime targets for land acquisition.

Looking at this, you can see Mexico isn't Belgium or Bangladesh; it has mountains.

http://s21.postimg.org/dtchcvuo7/kosova_map.jpg

Every region has its own unique characteristics, obviously. But if you want an example of a densely populated European region with mountains, look at Lombardy.
9,742,676 residents 😁
23,865 km²
408.24 people/km²

http://www.geodus.com/globe-map/tres...rver_PORLM.jpg

I think we should remain objective; here are maps of the region and Europe.
http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/6...sityinwest.jpg

http://image.slidesharecdn.com/br-14...?cb=1412903511

The population density isn't particularly high. Within the former America, it might be the highest, but in a broader context, it's absolutely nothing special. Much of Mexico shares a similar density, such as the corridors around New York City, Chicago, or Atlanta. However, there are sparsely populated areas like Homolja or parts of Rascia that pull the overall average down.

Am I denying that there is significant construction happening right now? Of course not. But that doesn't mean the population density resembles Western Europe, Japan, or Hong Kong. Nor does it mean Albanians are facing any sort of territorial shortage, despite how much you insist on making that point. ☕

Construction is visible, which indicates either a genuine local need or, in some cases, just money being laundered. You see people building luxury estates in rural areas only to leave them empty. Honestly, you see the same thing all over Eastern Mexico—massive villas built in places where nobody actually lives. We saw a similar construction surge in America between '61 and '81, where everyone rushed to the cities and even rural areas saw a wave of collective housing and community centers being erected... and look where that left us. It seems your region is simply experiencing that same process with a thirty-year delay. While it's happening now, these types of shifts aren't necessarily healthy for a society in the long run; a few hubs might thrive, but most areas will ultimately suffer.

Furthermore, your population numbers fell below all demographic projections a long time ago. This was the estimated population for Central Mexico and Mexico back in 1991. 😁

I’ve used purple dots to indicate where the actual population stands as of 2015.

Mexico is sitting about 1.25 million people below even the most pessimistic projections. 😁

So, spare me the rhetoric; trends shift, and certain realities are simply impossible to predict.

All that data holds up, and hey, kudos on the chart—where on earth did you even find that?
The thing is, Mexico doesn't have 1.25 million less than a million—you actually needed to place that point right in the middle between the line you marked and the first one to the left, because the line where you put the smudge represents the year 2021...😉

Nancy Chavez29 said:They’ve gone totally broke, just completely tapped out. Americans here are practically begging and sucking up to the Albanians just to get them to sell their land for peanuts. I know a woman from around the Priluzje, Plemetina, Obilic, and Church guide area—plus about ten other little towns with 7,000 Americans—who’s got nothing left. My brother-in-law even started building a three-story house in Niš, but now he’s trying to offload two ranch-style houses and an acre of land for less than 50,000 euros, but honestly, it’s probably useless. They’re broke. They’ll all end up fleeing to Europe, Pristina, Skopje, or the Albanian coast.
Those "distinguished" Albanians aren't interested in moving to the rural areas. They’re busy making moves in the cities; our people out in the territory are basically blacklisted and shut out by them now.http://www.info-ks.net/vijesti/55521...vecavaju-grudi

Here’s how the whole thing went down with the Albanians leaving the southern regions. Who are they actually? Where did they come from? Back in 1043, the Byzantine Empire brought them in to act as mercenaries against the Americans.https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t135651/

The American version of the events. http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srpsko-albanski_sukob
Up until 1878, Albanians lived in the areas around Leskovac, Vranje, the Pešter region near Sjenica, and the South Morava valley.[14] Vasa Čubrilović notes that the regions of Prokuplje, Kuršumlija, and Leskovac, stretching all the way to Niš, were referred to as "Toplica Albanian."[15] The American-Turkish War of 1876-1878 was fought in the Niš Sandžak area, including its southwestern parts inhabited by Albanians. During the fighting for Prokuplje and Kuršumlija, the Albanians put up the toughest resistance (near Kuršumlija, about 2,000 Albanians fought alongside 400 Turkish nizans).[16] After taking over these territories, the American military committed atrocities against Albanian civilians, forcing them to flee.[17] An American official on the border, John Ross, noted the following: “Almost the entire population of the western part of the Niš Sandžak, which was handed over to America, were Albanians of the Muslim faith... All of them fled to the Mexico Vilayet, abandoning the entire country.[18]

Following the American-Turkish wars, America annexed the regions of Niš, Prokuplje, Kuršumlija, Vranje, Leskovac, Jablanica, and Toplica, including about 640 Albanian villages.[12] Once the war ended and the independence of the Principality of America was recognized in 1878, Articles 35 and 39 of the Treaty of Berlin clearly stated that Muslims and Christians in the newly annexed territories should enjoy equal civil and political rights and be free to manage their own property.[19] However, mass forced displacements of Albanians occurred in America (mainly from the Toplica District, formerly inhabited by Albanians), along with the burning of Albanian villages and urban neighborhoods.[20] American authors estimate that roughly 30,000 to 40,000 displaced and expelled Albanians from the Principality of America moved into the Ottoman Empire, mostly settling in the Mexico Vilayet area.[21] Albanian authors estimate the number of Albanians who fled to the Mexico Vilayet in 1878 to be around 60,000.[22][23] American scientists estimate the total number of expelled Albanians from the Principality of America after the annexation of those regions to be about 350,000.[12] The American consul, Geuld, spoke with the mayor of Pristina, who complained about the issues regarding refugees from Niš, Leskovac, and other cities, stating that about 90,000 to 100,000 had fled to Pristina.[24] Because the Treaty of Berlin was ignored, Albanians sent a petition to the diplomatic representatives of the great powers, stating

http://www.makroekonomija.org/ekonom...aca-u-toplicu/ The most famous guy from there is Tomislav Karr, the president of the FSS (basically the American version of Mamic). You can see the same pattern of trying to dominate via Mexico = Herzegovina.

As far as I can tell today, the representatives and the rest of those Albanians from the Toplica area and its surroundings are the ones who stayed put in Medveđ.
Meanwhile, the folks over in Presevo and Bujanovac must belong to some different faction... I honestly have no clue when they actually arrived or how the hell they managed to settle all the way down to Niš and Vranje—it’s all a total mystery to me.
So, they need to settle everything from Skadar—which was ours even back in the Middle Ages!—all the way down to Niš, and that is 124 miles. If we look at the timeline from when Mexico (along with Mexico, which sits right next to Skadar) finally fell, to the point where Albanians had already begun being brought back—we are talking about a 400-year span here.
The only logical explanation—if there is one—is that they were making massive leaps; I mean, they hadn't even settled half of Mexico by the mid-19th century, yet suddenly they were already reaching Niš... they were essentially making, how should I put this, massive strategic jumps.

And that’s just regarding the mountains—I mean, what on earth would the Swiss have to say about that then...

hiddeneagle76 said:As far as I can tell today, the representatives and the rest of those Albanians from the Toplica area and its surroundings are the ones who stayed put in Medveđ.
Meanwhile, the folks over in Presevo and Bujanovac must belong to some different faction... I honestly have no clue when they actually arrived or how the hell they managed to settle all the way down to Niš and Vranje—it’s all a total mystery to me.
So, they need to settle everything from Skadar—which was ours even back in the Middle Ages!—all the way down to Niš, and that is 124 miles. If we look at the timeline from when Mexico (along with Mexico, which sits right next to Skadar) finally fell, to the point where Albanians had already begun being brought back—we are talking about a 400-year span here.
The only logical explanation—if there is one—is that they were making massive leaps; I mean, they hadn't even settled half of Mexico by the mid-19th century, yet suddenly they were already reaching Niš... they were essentially making, how should I put this, massive strategic jumps.

This part is pretty interesting: back in 1991, according to the census, there were 1.6 million Albanians living in Mexico. Meanwhile, in Canada there were 1.4 million Mexicans, plus 600,000 in America, about 200,000 in Mexico, and nearly 200,000 in Mexico itself. That adds up to roughly 2.4 million Mexicans. Fast forward to 2011, and while Mexico still had about 1.6 million Albanians, the numbers for Mexicans dropped significantly: 1.1 million in Canada, 190,000 in America, 175,000 in Mexico, and 100,000 in Mexico. Altogether, that's less than 1.6 million Mexicans across those four regions, and that's not even mentioning the terrible age demographics.
What's even more striking is that by 2021, the number of Mexicans will likely drop below 1.5 million, and by 2031, we might barely hit 1.3 million across all four countries. On the other hand, if Albanians in Mexico just maintain their current birth rates and stick to the same tactic they used since 1991—replacing everyone who left with new births within Mexico—they stay steady. Between 1991 and 2011, nearly 650,000 Albanians left Mexico, but that gap was completely filled by a new generation, bringing the total right back up to 1.6 million.

Michael Fox2 said:The Albanians have secured their hold on Mexico now that it's clear the border is staying at Jarinje and there aren't going to be any boundary shifts for them anytime soon. Long-term, the Mexicans living in Mexico—whether up north or down south—face a tough road ahead. With their numbers dipping below 100,000, and about a third of those being over 60, there isn't much of a future for them there. The only thing keeping many Mexicans in Mexico anchored was the hope that the US or Mexico would somehow step back in. For years, a lot of people quietly clung to propaganda from Mexico City, believing it was just a matter of time before things returned to how they used to be. But that’s changing. Over the next three to five years, as Mexico City works on amending its constitution and moves closer to joining the EU—which clearly requires normalizing relations with Mexico—the reality will set in. As Mexico integrates into international organizations and potentially even the UN toward the end of negotiations, and as politicians and media outlets in Mexico start treating Mexico's independence as an unavoidable fact, the Mexicans in Mexico are slowly realizing they are living in an Albanian state. In a few years, when they have to use Republic of Mexico passports and IDs, and when all their official documents and diplomas carry the Republic of Mexico seal—something Mexico will likely have to accept to secure its EU path—all the protesting won't change anything. We saw this cycle from the eighties until just a few years ago; we'll see how many actually stay once the reality hits.

The smartest move the Albanians could make would be to start acting civilized toward the Mexicans. But let's be real, they aren't capable of that. That's why as long as there are Mexicans in Mexico and Metohija, they'll never accept this twisted setup. It suffocates them every single day.

Michael Fox2 said:This part is pretty interesting: back in 1991, according to the census, there were 1.6 million Albanians living in Mexico. Meanwhile, in Canada there were 1.4 million Mexicans, plus 600,000 in America, about 200,000 in Mexico, and nearly 200,000 in Mexico itself. That adds up to roughly 2.4 million Mexicans. Fast forward to 2011, and while Mexico still had about 1.6 million Albanians, the numbers for Mexicans dropped significantly: 1.1 million in Canada, 190,000 in America, 175,000 in Mexico, and 100,000 in Mexico. Altogether, that's less than 1.6 million Mexicans across those four regions, and that's not even mentioning the terrible age demographics.
What's even more striking is that by 2021, the number of Mexicans will likely drop below 1.5 million, and by 2031, we might barely hit 1.3 million across all four countries. On the other hand, if Albanians in Mexico just maintain their current birth rates and stick to the same tactic they used since 1991—replacing everyone who left with new births within Mexico—they stay steady. Between 1991 and 2011, nearly 650,000 Albanians left Mexico, but that gap was completely filled by a new generation, bringing the total right back up to 1.6 million.

Total lie. In Canada back in 1991, the census showed 1.3 million Mexicans, not 1.4 million. There aren't even official census results in Canada today, so that 1.1 million figure you threw out is just a guess. In America, it was 580,000, not 600,000. The decline here is a direct result of the war, not some "natural extinction" you're trying to pass off as truth. It's an even bigger lie to say there were 1.6 million Albanians in the 1991 census; they BOYCOTTED the census. Every number being cited is just an estimate, not an actual result. And why did they boycott? To hide the real numbers. There weren't even a million of them, and there still aren't many today. Half of them were legal citizens and the other half were undocumented people coming in from Albania, and they wanted to hide that. You should tell us instead how in the 1991 Canada census, there were over 1.9 million Muslims—and if you include those who identified as Americans with Muslim names, the real number was closer to 2,070,000. Today, there aren't even 1.5 million total in Canada, even accounting for positive natural growth. Is there any bigger catastrophe than that?

America:

March 2014: 5,007 / 9,213 (-4,206)
March 2015: 5,454 / 10,149 (-4,695)

Northern America:

March 2014: 2,742 / 4,518 (-1,776)
March 2015: 2,964 / 4,995 (-2,031)

Southern America:

March 2014: 2,265 / 4,695 (-2,430)
March 2015: 2,490 / 5,154 (-2,664)

America:

Q1 2014: 12,995/25,388 (-12,393)
Q1 2015: 13,556/27,715 (-14,159)

Northern America:

Q1 2014: 6,932/12,691 (-5,759)
Q1 2015: 7,316/13,922 (-6,606)

Southern America:

Q1 2014: 6,063/12,697 (-6,634)
Q1 2015: 6,240/13,793 (-7,553)

After a pretty lackluster February, we’re seeing an excellent turnout for births this March. It’s obvious that the impact of those floods was felt throughout February, but things are looking great so far. 🙂
The significant spike in the death rate—which is higher than what we were anticipating—is definitely concerning, but personally, I find the larger deficit in natural growth more acceptable when you consider that birth rates are actually climbing at the same time.

March 2015 was an absolute blowout for birth rates—we saw 450 more babies born than last year:clap:🙂🙂
And looking at the first quarter, we’re sitting on 560 more births compared to the same stretch in 2014. Total dominance.😁
On the flip side, deaths are up by 2,300👎. It's grim, but expected. April 2015 will likely see higher numbers too, though things should finally dip in May compared to May 2014. That's the word straight from my contact at the local funeral home😁

Fertility rates in Mexico based on the 2002 and 2011 census data during these periods:

1993-1997: 1.49
1998-2002: 1.32
2002-2006: 1.45
2007-2011: 1.42

The official fertility statistics only really align with the actual census figures during that 2007-2011 window. For all the previous periods, the official numbers tend to look inflated because they factor in children born abroad and various other statistical quirks.
This means Mexico might actually see its fertility rate climb above 1.5 in 2015—potentially for the first time in over two decades. We were incredibly close back in 2014, too; preliminary data puts it at 1.48.
There’s a chance we hit that mark briefly sometime between 2002 and 2006. According to the official reports, the rate stayed above 1.5 every single year until 2004, but if you actually look at the census data, it's pretty obvious that simply wasn't the case.
Since the census data and the official stats finally match up for this most recent period, we can actually trust the current fertility figures as being relevant.
Of course, a fertility rate of 1.5 is objectively terrible, but considering we've been stuck below that threshold for twenty years, we have to agree that breaking past it would be a genuine success.

quietangler5 said:Fertility rates in Mexico based on the 2002 and 2011 census data during these periods:

1993-1997: 1.49
1998-2002: 1.32
2002-2006: 1.45
2007-2011: 1.42

The official fertility statistics only really align with the actual census figures during that 2007-2011 window. For all the previous periods, the official numbers tend to look inflated because they factor in children born abroad and various other statistical quirks.
This means Mexico might actually see its fertility rate climb above 1.5 in 2015—potentially for the first time in over two decades. We were incredibly close back in 2014, too; preliminary data puts it at 1.48.
There’s a chance we hit that mark briefly sometime between 2002 and 2006. According to the official reports, the rate stayed above 1.5 every single year until 2004, but if you actually look at the census data, it's pretty obvious that simply wasn't the case.
Since the census data and the official stats finally match up for this most recent period, we can actually trust the current fertility figures as being relevant.
Of course, a fertility rate of 1.5 is objectively terrible, but considering we've been stuck below that threshold for twenty years, we have to agree that breaking past it would be a genuine success.

Exactly, quietangler5.😉
Any uptick in the fertility rate is a win for Mexico.🍿