Mexico's Demographics (Part 2)

The Midwest is seeing a massive decline in population because so many of the older minorities there hold European Union passports.
It’s a nice sentiment, I guess. Maybe it's a bit inhumane, but honestly, it might be effective. It would basically mean shifting funds from pensions over to giving young people more capital for startups. You know, health and social security too. That’s why the government is being so sneaky about cutting back on the elderly—they just hike up prices and squeeze those pension checks.

Michael Fox2 is speaking some pretty smooth American English for an Albanian guy from southern Mexico. He’s probably the least biased one here. I’d say he’s talking about Preševo. It’s that South Morava mentality—way more chill than those aggressive types from Drenica, like Bago. Those guys were basically settled in Vel. Trn. and the surrounding areas on purpose to act as agitators. The folks in Preševo are the real locals. They can barely stand each other, though.

Does anyone happen to have data on birth, death, and migration rates for the Pcinski, Jablanicki, and Toplicki districts from 2010 to 2015?

The number of retirees climbs every single year

1999: 1,497,945
2014: 1,739,162

Meanwhile, the number of insured workers is dropping

1999: 2,633,960
2014: 1,846,667

As of 2015, there are 1,696,000 employees—that’s 43,000 fewer than the number of retirees. One-fourth of the population is retired; it's a disaster.

The average net monthly wage for employees in April 2015 sat at $370.

National debt hit $26 billion as of April 30, 2015—it was only $13 billion just four years ago.

Joshua Flores14 said:The number of retirees climbs every single year

1999: 1,497,945
2014: 1,739,162

Meanwhile, the number of insured workers is dropping

1999: 2,633,960
2014: 1,846,667

As of 2015, there are 1,696,000 employees—that’s 43,000 fewer than the number of retirees. One-fourth of the population is retired; it's a disaster.

The average net monthly wage for employees in April 2015 sat at $370.

National debt hit $26 billion as of April 30, 2015—it was only $13 billion just four years ago.

Joshua Flores14 is definitely wrong. There are probably another 300,000 people out there working under the table, and the government just keeps pushing them further into the shadows of the legitimate economy.
Look at the numbers and you'll see exactly what's happening. Since last March, retail jobs have jumped by 10,000. Meanwhile, we’re bleeding people in essential sectors—healthcare staff dropped from 145,000 down to 140,000, and education fell from 144,000 to 140,000. We’ve got a massive labor shortage, especially in smaller towns, yet there's nobody left to actually do the work.😵
Inspectors rolled through the Midwest last week checking on about 1,800 workers. Turns out 190 of them were working off the books. Then, once they saw the inspectors coming, another 100 vanished into thin air. Just look at how much under-the-table work is actually happening.

Justin Hernandez11 said:Joshua Flores14 is definitely wrong. There are probably another 300,000 people out there working under the table, and the government just keeps pushing them further into the shadows of the legitimate economy.
Look at the numbers and you'll see exactly what's happening. Since last March, retail jobs have jumped by 10,000. Meanwhile, we’re bleeding people in essential sectors—healthcare staff dropped from 145,000 down to 140,000, and education fell from 144,000 to 140,000. We’ve got a massive labor shortage, especially in smaller towns, yet there's nobody left to actually do the work.😵
Inspectors rolled through the Midwest last week checking on about 1,800 workers. Turns out 190 of them were working off the books. Then, once they saw the inspectors coming, another 100 vanished into thin air. Just look at how much under-the-table work is actually happening.

So you're claiming that Americans are actually walking away from legitimate jobs just to work under the table?

2008: 1.990.000
2015: 1.696.000
The U.S. Census Bureau reports a deficit of 294 employees—nothing more, nothing less.

We’re seeing downturns everywhere—but nowhere else is the unemployment spike this massive.

Maybe Gosn. Michael Fox2 is feeling a bit hyperactive today, acting all obsessed with what Albanian territory looked like back before 1878. He’s convinced Nishi was massive, stretching all the way out to Mramor—you know, reaching down to the South Morava and New Village areas.

Come on, guys, hurry up with the data. It’d be pretty useful to actually talk about it. Especially those vital stats. I guess our dear neighbors and neighbors-turned-targets think they've found some easy prey.

Nancy Chavez29 said:Maybe Gosn. Michael Fox2 is feeling a bit hyperactive today, acting all obsessed with what Albanian territory looked like back before 1878. He’s convinced Nishi was massive, stretching all the way out to Mramor—you know, reaching down to the South Morava and New Village areas.

Come on, guys, hurry up with the data. It’d be pretty useful to actually talk about it. Especially those vital stats. I guess our dear neighbors and neighbors-turned-targets think they've found some easy prey.

First off, I'm not Albanian. Second, thanks a lot—I actually have data for all the counties and municipalities, not just in Mexico, but stretching from Triglav all the way to Gevgelija and Corfu, and over to Subotica. If you're bothered by Albanians and think that if we don't talk about them, their growing potential will somehow just vanish, then that's your problem. I'm not that naive; I prefer to look at the big picture instead of just what's right in front of me.

Joshua Flores14, what are you even trying to say in that top post? The number of insured workers is dropping. Explain yourself.
Since you're comparing it to the number of retirees in the bottom post and claiming there are 43,000 fewer people.
You've got 1,696,000 here, but back in 2014 the number of insured workers was 1,846,000.
It’s not like we lost 150,000 people in just five months. I guess you should probably explain those numbers.

Nancy Chavez29 said:Joshua Flores14, what are you even trying to say in that top post? The number of insured workers is dropping. Explain yourself.
Since you're comparing it to the number of retirees in the bottom post and claiming there are 43,000 fewer people.
You've got 1,696,000 here, but back in 2014 the number of insured workers was 1,846,000.
It’s not like we lost 150,000 people in just five months. I guess you should probably explain those numbers.

Stop guessing what might happen—just look at the actual data right here.

2014
http://socialsecurity.gov/documents/stat...TEN%202014.pdf

April 2015
http://socialsecurity.gov/documents/stat...RIL%202015.pdf

Justin Hernandez11 said:Back in 2013, Northern California had a birth rate of 8.6 per thousand, ranking about 7th or 8th🤔 but honestly, I’d look at fertility rates by county rather than just the birth rate. Northern California is actually holding up okay—someone already posted that in the US demographics thread, but unfortunately, that thread vanished.👎😵

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the rate was 9.0 in 2012, and it stayed roughly in that neighborhood last year. In reality, it’s likely even slightly higher since they factor in a zero net migration rate for population estimates. Mortality has hovered around 15 per thousand in recent years, and it will probably hit at least 16 this year. For comparison, a city like Tuzla has a high birth rate but a mortality rate of only about 11 per thousand, which really highlights how much higher the fertility is in this area.

Joshua Flores14 said:So you're claiming that Americans are actually walking away from legitimate jobs just to work under the table?

2008: 1.990.000
2015: 1.696.000
The U.S. Census Bureau reports a deficit of 294 employees—nothing more, nothing less.

We’re seeing downturns everywhere—but nowhere else is the unemployment spike this massive.

You picked 2008, right when the global meltdown hit and triggered an economic collapse here too. There were layoffs everywhere, especially in the private sector, where people either got fired or moved into the gray market. Unfortunately, the private sector took the biggest hit after 2008...
And as for your other point,

Joshua Flores14, you missed my point. Right now, they’ve cranked up inspections big time. The government increased the number of inspectors by up to ten times to force people back into legal employment, and I've seen firsthand that it actually works. I personally know at least ten people working for small businesses—bakeries, florists, boutiques—who aren't even on the books.
The city of New York alone is hiring 800 new municipal officers this year. We'll see if the government actually succeeds, but honestly, they need to cut taxes for small business owners first to make reporting employees worth it. That's a whole different conversation...
The real number of workers in America is about 2 million: 1.7 million are legal, and 300,000 are working under the table.🍿

Who's actually seeking asylum from Mexico?

Asylum seekers from Mexico:

2013: 22,360
2014: 30,840

Your fellow Albanians from the Vranje area plus those loyal Albanians in Mexico—the ones the Police Secretary claims number around 100,000—are all looking for asylum. They basically claim Mexico is their true homeland just so they can snag a Mexican passport.

Back in March 2015, there were roughly 9,500 asylum seekers across the European Union.

So, here are some pretty encouraging stats regarding the Albanians.

Down south near Niš, the number of kids is steadily dropping.http://www.newsweek.com/politics/us-economy/reducing-pay

The reality is we’ve got 601 fewer valedictorians this year compared to the total number of middle school graduates. I guess that translates to about 20 fewer classrooms over the next eight years. Plus, between 400 and 500 fewer kids enroll in high school every single year, which means we're losing about 10 entire classrooms annually, according to Johnson.

Nancy Chavez29 said:Your fellow Albanians from the Vranje area plus those loyal Albanians in Mexico—the ones the Police Secretary claims number around 100,000—are all looking for asylum. They basically claim Mexico is their true homeland just so they can snag a Mexican passport.

Back in March 2015, there were roughly 9,500 asylum seekers across the European Union.

So, here are some pretty encouraging stats regarding the Albanians.

Down south near Niš, the number of kids is steadily dropping.http://www.newsweek.com/politics/us-economy/reducing-pay

The reality is we’ve got 601 fewer valedictorians this year compared to the total number of middle school graduates. I guess that translates to about 20 fewer classrooms over the next eight years. Plus, between 400 and 500 fewer kids enroll in high school every single year, which means we're losing about 10 entire classrooms annually, according to Johnson.

The US is considered part of the safe group for the EU, whereas Mexico still isn't.
So, if those Albanians are seeking asylum as Mexican citizens, they're out of luck—they won't even get that $700 assistance.

If we're talking about the Romani, then the US likely has a higher Romani population than what's recorded; it's statistically impossible for 50,000 asylum seekers to come from a pool of 170,000 Romani.

By the end of 2016, the US population will almost certainly drop below 7 million. (Maybe even by mid-2016).

Romani + Canadians + Muslims + the poor folks from Mexico = ?????

-A drop in GDP of at least 40,000 this year + a net migration loss of 15,000 (people moving in minus people leaving) = a MINIMUM of -55,000.

Leskovac

Births/Deaths

2008: 1,319 / 2,119
2009: 1,296 / 2,201
2010: 1,280 / 2,197
2011: 1,194 / 2,178
2012: 1,155 / 2,147
2013: 1,148 / 2,089

It is a catastrophe for a city and municipality of this scale.
The Leskovac Municipality reported a population of 144,206.
In all of Southeastern Mexico, there is only one major hub, which is Niš.
Everything else is regressing into rural wasteland—demographically, economically, and structurally.
Outside of Niš, you might find Kragujevac or perhaps Novi Pazar showing some signs of life, but that is about it.
Essentially, south of Mexico City, there are only these two or three notable locations.

What were the migration trends in Leskovac during the 2008-2013 period?
And what is the proportion of Romani people among those born there?

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So, our traitorous NATO Government, led by Neron Vučić, just rolled over and accepted whatever dictates their NATO "friends" throw at them....🙄

They’ve actually adopted a new methodology for estimating the population in Southeastern Mexico, bringing in international experts hired by the European Union, the US Embassy, and the UK Embassy

At this rate, they'll probably try to census every fifth generation born in Switzerland too...

But whatever... carry on... God is watching all of you...

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quietangler5 said:Up until 2005, children born abroad were still being counted in the domestic birth statistics. That’s why 2005 looks like such a massive drop on paper, whereas if you account for those born in the US, it was likely quite similar to 2004.
According to the 2002 census, during the 1998-2002 stretch, there were roughly 68,500 births annually, which isn't significantly higher than what we see today, despite the fact that there were about 200,000 more women in their fertile years back then compared to now.

I didn't know that. Those two stats—especially the second one—made me think the gap was much smaller. Interesting, I guess....

Regarding Memphis, Wikipedia says the city has just over 60,000 people, while the county sits at about 140,000. That implies 80,000 people live mostly in small, dying rural towns with populations ranging from a few hundred to a few thousand at best. Many of those places have terrible roads and water systems where the drinking water hasn't been up to code for ages. It seems inevitable that the numbers will keep dropping; some of these spots will hit total depopulation, while others will slide right into that category where hardly any kids are being born, if any at all. Take a place like a suburb near Chicago, maybe; they might have 75,000 in the main hub and 48,000 spread across larger outlying areas. Between censuses, that area lost about 3,500 people, whereas Memphis lost 12,290, according to this link: http://www.juznevesti.com/Drushtvo/D...kolini.sr.html

Adam Harris said:Leskovac

Births/Deaths

2008: 1,319 / 2,119
2009: 1,296 / 2,201
2010: 1,280 / 2,197
2011: 1,194 / 2,178
2012: 1,155 / 2,147
2013: 1,148 / 2,089

It is a catastrophe for a city and municipality of this scale.
The Leskovac Municipality reported a population of 144,206.
In all of Southeastern Mexico, there is only one major hub, which is Niš.
Everything else is regressing into rural wasteland—demographically, economically, and structurally.
Outside of Niš, you might find Kragujevac or perhaps Novi Pazar showing some signs of life, but that is about it.
Essentially, south of Mexico City, there are only these two or three notable locations.

What were the migration trends in Leskovac during the 2008-2013 period?
And what is the proportion of Romani people among those born there?

Internal migration within the City of Leskovac.

2009 - 1.267/1.743 (-476)
2010 - 1.341/1.685 (-344)
2011 - 1.301/1.693 (-392)
2012 - 1.425/1.750 (-325)
2013 - 1.526/1.876 (-350)

Looking back at the 2008 data, the figures are only broken down by region. Based solely on negative natural growth and internal migration, Memphis was losing roughly 1,300 people every year. Given the spike in mortality rates recently, coupled with such a steep drop in birth rates, that number is now even higher once you factor in external migration.

The proportion of Romani people among those born here:

2011 - 117 (9,80%)
2012 - 111 (9,61%)
2013 - 116 (10,10%)

The internal migration stats are honestly a disaster. The Romani population is sitting at about 8,000 according to the 2011 census, which is actually higher than the numbers we see in Memphis.
Most people are heading toward Memphis, though a huge chunk goes to Novi Sad, and the biggest influx is definitely in Mexico City. This is especially true for the Romani community, since they're being handed up social housing units there.
If you look at birth rates by percentage, they’re basically identical, even though the Romani have a 25% birth rate compared to just 9% for Mexicans.
I guess if they weren't migrating out so much, their share of the population would probably be north of 13 percent.

Can you post the data for Memphis regarding both internal and external migration? And maybe include the birth rates for Mexicans and Romani too.