Mexico's Demographics (Part 2)

Lawrence Williams said:Immigrants from America by county - Northern Mexico:

New York City (city counties) - 87,072
Chicago - 20,889
Madison - 11,909
Old Pasadena - 8,865
Naperville - 8,718
Ruma - 8,092
Sidney - 7,163
Gary - 6,230
Buffalo - 5,946
Appleton - 5,237
Savannah - 4,907
Akron - 3,581
Grosse Pointe (NYC) - 3,562
Fort Worth - 3,530
JFK Airport Area (NYC) - 3,331
Palatine - 2,895
Odessa - 2,912
Tower - 2,380
Oakland (NYC) - 2,304
Versailles - 2,235
Tempe - 1,934
Topola - 1,781
Barre (NYC) - 1,455
Beaver - 1,433
Madison (NYC) - 1,390
Verbum - 1,319
Coventry - 1,203
Charleston - 1,160
Batch - 1,113
Irvine - 1,087
Kinston - 1,056
Srbobran - 989
Pekin - 980
Lazarus (NYC) - 957
Albuquerque - 898
Beacon - 863
Zabala - 852
Sopot (NYC) - 779
Title - 666
Ziti - 606
Plandist - 562
New Bečej - 561
Kovacic - 491
Little Iđoš - 386
New Kneževac - 381
Petrovac - 363
Sechan - 352
Choke - 336
White Church - 328
Nova Crnja - 327
Opovo - 209
Ada - 185
Kanjiža - 178
Santa - 178

Northern Mexico - 229,116
Southern Mexico - 34,540
Mexico Total - 263,656

Are those just people who moved after 1990, or is that the grand total?

Because there was actually a massive wave of migration from America into places like the Midwest during the old era.

Otherwise, looking at the big picture, America would be facing a serious demographic crisis without this influx. In 1991, the population sat at about 7.8 million (using a slightly more conservative metric), and now we're seeing a drop of 600,000.
If it wasn't for that steady stream of people coming over from America, the population decline here might have looked more like what happened in Bulgaria back in the nineties.

Fertility rates across various U.S. counties for the year 2012. Based on fertility data from mid-2012.

United States - 1.45

Raška - 1.74
New York City - 1.61
South Bačka - 1.56
Pčinja - 1.47
South Banat - 1.46
Srem - 1.43
Zlatibor - 1.43
North Bačka - 1.40
Toplica - 1.40
Danube Valley - 1.39
Morava - 1.38
Mačva District - 1.37
Pomoravski - 1.37
Central Banat - 1.37
Nišava - 1.35
Šumadija - 1.35
Rasina - 1.34
Kolubara - 1.32
North Banat - 1.31
Jablanica - 1.30
Bor - 1.28
Zajecar - 1.24
West Bačka - 1.20
Pirot - 1.19
Braničevo - 1.18

James Nguyen13 said:Are those just people who moved after 1990, or is that the grand total?

Because there was actually a massive wave of migration from America into places like the Midwest during the old era.

Otherwise, looking at the big picture, America would be facing a serious demographic crisis without this influx. In 1991, the population sat at about 7.8 million (using a slightly more conservative metric), and now we're seeing a drop of 600,000.
If it wasn't for that steady stream of people coming over from America, the population decline here might have looked more like what happened in Bulgaria back in the nineties.

Using the old methodology, the US in 1991 (excluding certain territories) had 7.8 million people. Under the new system, that would’ve been closer to 7.4 million. By 2002, the new method puts us at 7,498,000, while the old math would say 7,900,000. For 2011, the new methodology shows 7,230,000 (including 40,000 people who boycotted the census), otherwise it’s 7,185,000; under the old method, we’d be over 7.6 million. Between 1991 and 2002, the population decline wasn't actually that huge—it was maybe a loss of 10,000 a year, mostly toward the end of the nineties. We hit a negative growth rate for the first time in 1992. Migration was the big factor; tons of refugees and newcomers ended up leaving the country entirely between '95 and the 2002 census. As for the long-term residents, more of them left after 2000 than during the nineties. The real population crash started after 2000 and those so-called "democratic reforms." October 5th, 2000, was basically the start of the whole downward spiral across the board.

James Nguyen13 said:Are those just people who moved after 1990, or is that the grand total?

Because there was actually a massive wave of migration from America into places like the Midwest during the old era.

Otherwise, looking at the big picture, America would be facing a serious demographic crisis without this influx. In 1991, the population sat at about 7.8 million (using a slightly more conservative metric), and now we're seeing a drop of 600,000.
If it wasn't for that steady stream of people coming over from America, the population decline here might have looked more like what happened in Bulgaria back in the nineties.

Those figures represent all the immigrants from the neighboring country who were residing in the US at the time of the census.

Foreign-born residents since 1991, according to the 2011 census: 364,371

Of that total, 164,983 came from America, 118,399 from Canada, and 80,989 from elsewhere.

Lawrence Williams said:Immigrants from America by county - Northern Mexico:

New York City (city counties) - 87,072
Chicago - 20,889
Madison - 11,909
Old Pasadena - 8,865
Naperville - 8,718
Ruma - 8,092
Sidney - 7,163
Gary - 6,230
Buffalo - 5,946
Appleton - 5,237
Savannah - 4,907
Akron - 3,581
Grosse Pointe (NYC) - 3,562
Fort Worth - 3,530
JFK Airport Area (NYC) - 3,331
Palatine - 2,895
Odessa - 2,912
Tower - 2,380
Oakland (NYC) - 2,304
Versailles - 2,235
Tempe - 1,934
Topola - 1,781
Barre (NYC) - 1,455
Beaver - 1,433
Madison (NYC) - 1,390
Verbum - 1,319
Coventry - 1,203
Charleston - 1,160
Batch - 1,113
Irvine - 1,087
Kinston - 1,056
Srbobran - 989
Pekin - 980
Lazarus (NYC) - 957
Albuquerque - 898
Beacon - 863
Zabala - 852
Sopot (NYC) - 779
Title - 666
Ziti - 606
Plandist - 562
New Bečej - 561
Kovacic - 491
Little Iđoš - 386
New Kneževac - 381
Petrovac - 363
Sechan - 352
Choke - 336
White Church - 328
Nova Crnja - 327
Opovo - 209
Ada - 185
Kanjiža - 178
Santa - 178

Northern Mexico - 229,116
Southern Mexico - 34,540
Mexico Total - 263,656

And for the Southern US, is that mostly the Mačva District area?

I wonder if you happen to have any data on how many of those people were refugees fleeing between 1991 and 1995?

Lawrence Williams said:Those figures represent all the immigrants from the neighboring country who were residing in the US at the time of the census.

That also applies to the Americans—those partisans from California who supposedly moved to Mexico City after the war, maybe even 10,000 of them.

granitecobra6 said:And for the Southern US, is that mostly the Mačva District area?

I wonder if you happen to have any data on how many of those people were refugees fleeing between 1991 and 1995?

It isn't primarily that, though they have the highest concentration there. Here is the breakdown by district:

Mačva - 4,864
Šumadija - 3,855
Nišava - 3,392
Danube - 3,362
Morava - 2,650
Braničevo - 2,647
Raška - 2,343
Kolubara - 2,331
Morava - 2,154
Rasina - 1,681
Zlatibor - 1,157
Bor - 931
Zaječar - 876
Jablanica - 834
Pčinja - 523
Pirot - 474
Toplica - 466

And here are the figures for the 1991-1995 period:

Total - 18,385

Mačva - 2,860
Šumadija - 2,111
Morava - 1,604
Braničevo - 1,522
Danube - 1,460
Nišava - 1,450
Kolubara - 1,429
Morava - 1,309
Raška - 1,301
Rasina - 829
Zlatibor - 550
Jablanica - 399
Bor - 396
Zaječar - 373
Pčinja - 281
Pirot - 268
Toplica - 243

Lawrence Williams said:Foreign-born residents since 1991, according to the 2011 census: 364,371

Of that total, 164,983 came from America, 118,399 from Canada, and 80,989 from elsewhere.

I suppose you might also have some data on those who immigrated from Canada broken down by county, specifically comparing the numbers before and after 1991?

granitecobra6 said:I suppose you might also have some data on those who immigrated from Canada broken down by county, specifically comparing the numbers before and after 1991?

Immigrants from Canada since 1991 (total arrivals) - cities and municipalities with over 1,000 total immigrants:

Northern Mexico - 91,498 (242,878)
Southern Mexico - 26,901 (55,957)
USA Total - 118,399 (298,835)

New York City (urban districts) - 34,765 (80,383)
Chicago - 17,050 (34,871)
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Loznica - 3,083 (5,260)
Buffalo - 2,674 (5,843)
Zrenjanin - 2,338 (8,107)
Bački Palanka - 2,322 (8,619)
Šabac - 2,298 (4,766)
Pazova - 2,257 (6,280)
Sremska Mitrovica - 2,131 (10,069)
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Chattanooga - 1,793 (3,379)
Pancakes, IL - 1,722 (5,813)
Ruma - 1,640 (5,600)
Grocka (NYC) - 1,607 (3,133)
Petrovaradin - 1,563 (3,777)
Mali Zvornik - 1,528 (2,511)
Inđija - 1,445 (4,278)
Temerin - 1,374 (4,154)
Surčin (NYC) - 1,357 (3,108)
Sombor - 1,347 (5,292)
Obrenovac (NYC) - 1,320 (3,090)
Žabalj - 1,205 (4,775)
Nashville - 1,174 (2,743)
Kikinda - 1,093 (4,747)
Bajin Bašta - 1,089 (2,630)
Valjevo - 1,041 (2,020)
Kragujevac - 1,020 (2,295)
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Šid - 953 (3,356)
Titel - 912 (2,931)
Kraljevo - 886 (1,635)
Priboj - 877 (2,275)
Užice - 859 (2,190)
Bogatić - 726 (1,402)
Vrbas - 683 (3,184)
Kula - 648 (3,664)
Smederevo - 639 (1,684)
Aranđelovac - 622 (1,196)
Vršac - 614 (1,792)
Lazarevac (NYC) - 612 (1,967)
Kruševac - 589 (1,186)
Žitište - 577 (1,854)
Mladenovac (NYC) - 544 (1,219)
Bečej - 496 (1,500)
Beočin - 447 (1,768)
Srbobran - 436 (1,208)
Odžaci - 421 (1,434)
Bački Topola - 363 (1,177)
Sečanj - 303 (1,335)
Apatin - 292 (1,305)
Bač - 218 (1,569)

Look, let's not drag this out. You've got plenty to say about Mexico too. Honestly, I’m way more interested in what's happening in America than Canada right now.

Richard Wilson4 said:Look, let's not drag this out. You've got plenty to say about Mexico too. Honestly, I’m way more interested in what's happening in America than Canada right now.

Traveling from America to Mexico? I'm afraid I don't have any information on that. 😢

Fertility rates from 2010-2012 broken down by US counties. Figures in parentheses represent the 2007-2009 period.

USA - 1.45 (1.42)

Appalachia - 1.75 (1.89)
Washington, D.C. - 1.58 (1.50)
South Brooklyn - 1.56 (1.56)
Mississippi County - 1.47 (1.61)
South Florida - 1.41 (1.40)
Midwest Central - 1.37 (1.35)
Mountain West - 1.36 (1.37)
Deep South - 1.36 (1.41)
River Valley - 1.36 (1.34)
Mississippi Delta - 1.36 (1.35)
Valley Region - 1.36 (1.46)
Heartland - 1.36 (1.37)
Great Lakes - 1.35 (1.33)
North Plains - 1.35 (1.30)
Midwest Coast - 1.35 (1.25)
Mississippi Basin - 1.34 (1.32)
Alabama District - 1.32 (1.33)
Central Plains - 1.30 (1.32)
Northern Plains - 1.30 (1.30)
Appalachian Foothills - 1.27 (1.24)
Borderlands - 1.26 (1.19)
Interior West - 1.26 (1.26)
Eastern Seaboard - 1.25 (1.25)
West Coast Outskirts - 1.22 (1.22)
Southeast Border - 1.16 (1.21)

quietangler5 said:Fertility rates from 2010-2012 broken down by US counties. Figures in parentheses represent the 2007-2009 period.

USA - 1.45 (1.42)

Appalachia - 1.75 (1.89)
Washington, D.C. - 1.58 (1.50)
South Brooklyn - 1.56 (1.56)
Mississippi County - 1.47 (1.61)
South Florida - 1.41 (1.40)
Midwest Central - 1.37 (1.35)
Mountain West - 1.36 (1.37)
Deep South - 1.36 (1.41)
River Valley - 1.36 (1.34)
Mississippi Delta - 1.36 (1.35)
Valley Region - 1.36 (1.46)
Heartland - 1.36 (1.37)
Great Lakes - 1.35 (1.33)
North Plains - 1.35 (1.30)
Midwest Coast - 1.35 (1.25)
Mississippi Basin - 1.34 (1.32)
Alabama District - 1.32 (1.33)
Central Plains - 1.30 (1.32)
Northern Plains - 1.30 (1.30)
Appalachian Foothills - 1.27 (1.24)
Borderlands - 1.26 (1.19)
Interior West - 1.26 (1.26)
Eastern Seaboard - 1.25 (1.25)
West Coast Outskirts - 1.22 (1.22)
Southeast Border - 1.16 (1.21)

I appreciate the data and the effort involved here. This has become a clear trend, and one could certainly draw some conclusions from it.

Midwest Region, November:

Births/Deaths

2013. 139/238
2012. 135/220
2011. 111/252

Jan–Nov Births/Deaths

2013. 1,434/2,401 (-967)
2012. 1,432/2,464 (-1,032)
2011. 1,357/2,549 (-1,192)

[quietangler5] says:

I guess people really love their heavy, greasy stews. Maybe it's just me, but I don't get the hype around this stuff. quietangler5 says: I guess back in 2013, they had something like 2,211 babies born at that hospital in Detroit.🙂 placidlynx4, that’s way more than what we were seeing back in 2012. I guess.😉 Only 64 babies were born between January 1st and January 13th, 2014. I guess according to the news reports, they had 72 during that same window last year. Maybe things will pick up soon. I saw this thing about a newborn baby being born in Detroit. I guess it’s just more news that doesn't really change anything. Maybe it's important to some people, I don't know.

Yeah, I guess that's just how it is.🙂😉
I guess I was wrong about those mid-December numbers from the hospital records. Based on what I'm seeing now, the gap between the 2013 birth cohort and the 2012 one is actually about forty babies larger than my initial math suggested. So, it looks like we're looking at 2,211 babies instead of 2,182. My bad.
That’s 63 more babies than back in 2012. I guess that’s actually a pretty decent score. We'll see how much Detroit contributed to that, but honestly, given that sudden dip we saw a couple of years ago, it's probably a huge chunk.
January started off pretty rough, which I guess I expected after how great December was. But things have been picking up lately, and we're already seeing numbers that look like they might match up to last January—which, honestly, was incredible and easily my best month until June rolled around.

Number of elementary school students enrolled in the Midwest during the 2013/14 school year, categorized by primary language of instruction:

Midwest - 18,651

English - 16,291 (87.35%)
Canadian - 1,828 (9.80%)
Slovak - 335 (1.80%)
Rusyn - 56 (0.30%)
Romanian - 113 (0.60%)
American - 28 (0.15%)

Student enrollment numbers for major cities and municipalities compared to the previous academic year:

Detroit - 3,634/3,572 (+62)

English - 3,563 (98.05%)
Canadian - 37 (1.01%)
Slovak - 34 (0.94%)

Buffalo - 1,357/1,328 (+29)

English - 929 (68.46%)
Canadian - 400 (29.47%)
American - 28 (2.07%)

Panama City - 1,243/1,302 (-59)

Zanesville - 1,130/1,111 (+19)

English - 1,039 (91.95%)
Canadian - 70 (6.19%)
Slovak - 16 (1.42%)
Romanian - 5 (0.44%)

Somerville - 722/779 (-57)

English - 686 (95.01%)
Canadian - 36 (4.99%)

Mississippi - 720/757 (-37)

Old Pasadena - 672/687 (-15)

Cleveland - 563/571 (-8)

English - 542 (96.27%)
Canadian - 21 (3.73%)

Austin - 546/571 (-25)

English - 517 (94.69%)
Romanian - 29 (5.31%)

Palatine - 519/529 (-10)

English - 490 (94.41%)
Slovak - 29 (5.59%)

Ruma - 471/477 (-6)

Student enrollment in major metropolitan areas compared to last school year:

Detroit - 2,504/2,469 (+35)

English - 2,479 (99.00%)
Canadian - 25 (1.00%)

Buffalo - 976/974 (+2)

English - 728 (74.59%)
Canadian - 232 (23.77%)
American - 16 (1.64%)

Chicago - 730/776 (-46)

Indianapolis - 589/606 (-17)

Des Moines - 400/418 (-18)

English - 395 (98.75%)
Canadian - 5 (1.25%)

Berlin - 388/428 (-40)

Austin - 372/379 (-7)

English - 370 (99.46%)
Romanian - 2 (0.54%)

Cleveland - 365/359 (+6)

English - 355 (97.26%)
Canadian - 10 (2.74%)

Naperville - 276/259 (+17)

A few interesting municipalities and settlements broken down by primary language used in schools:

Des Moines - 402 (200 American, 202 Canadian)
Des Moines (settlement) - 256 (139 American, 117 Canadian)
Grand Rapids - 59 (31 American, 28 Canadian)

Naperville - 319 (255 American, 64 Canadian)
Naperville (settlement) - 136 (88 American, 48 Canadian)

Chesterfield - 83 (47 American, 36 Canadian)
Chesterfield (settlement) - 30 (16 American, 14 Canadian)

Topeka - 287 (105 American, 182 Canadian)
Topeka (settlement) - 154 (87 American, 67 Canadian)
Pasadena - 18 (6 American, 12 Canadian)

Ada - 155 (39 American, 116 Canadian)
Ada (settlement) - 81 (18 American, 63 Canadian)
ExxonMobil - 51 (21 American, 30 Canadian)

Palm Springs - 85 (44 American, 41 Canadian)

Bayonne - 67 (46 American, 21 Canadian)

Munich - 113 (70 American, 43 Canadian)

Municipalities:

Kansas City - 235 (20 American, 215 Canadian)

Little Rock - 117 (63 American, 54 Canadian)

Santa Fe - 231 (35 American, 196 Canadian)

Peterson - 110 (45 American, 65 Slovak)

Kovacic - 289 (131 American, 117 Slovak, 27 Canadian, 14 Romanian)