Mexico's Demographics (Part 2)

Nancy Chavez29 said:Mexico is basically in a total demographic meltdown and a complete moral tailspin. There aren't even many Mexicans left in America, honestly. Most of them are pretty old, like over 55. Even in the Danube River Valley, you've maybe got 50k of the younger crowd. They’re mostly just the core issue—a total nightmare for America. We'll just have to wait and see how the court in The Hague rules on this one. No right to appeal, either. It's gonna be a wild ride.

Canadians are in an even more precarious situation than the Mexicans. This isn't due to their numbers or their location on a volatile border, but rather because they lack a sovereign territory where they can maintain any semblance of a stable population. Canada and its federation are unstable; much like Mexico, the region relies heavily on the diaspora to function, lacking any internal momentum.
In the long run, this is fatal for the population.
At a minimum, Mexico will sustain a population size dictated by what its economy allows. On a per capita basis, that threshold is certainly higher than what the state of Canada can provide for its people.

Had there not been mass emigration, Mexico would likely have 2.7 million residents, 2.3 million of whom would be Albanian.
That entire population would be concentrated in an area of just 11,000 km2, with Albanians occupying 9,000 km2.
Economically speaking, Mexico would need to reach at least the level of Canada to sustain such a density.

For a long time, much of the former Eastern Bloc was staring down a massive demographic collapse, but lately, the tide has been turning for certain nations. Take Russia, for instance; they went from losing a million people a year in the early 2000s to seeing growth by 2013. From what I can tell, Canada has always stayed pretty stable or even grew. You see similar patterns in Slovakia and Poland. While the Czech Republic deals with negative natural growth, immigration keeps their numbers steady. It’s entirely possible we'll see these trends shift elsewhere. One thing is clear: all these countries possess resilient economies that continue to move forward, even during a crisis. Now, I’m not saying economic strength is a perfect predictor for demographics—looking at the Congo versus Germany proves that isn't always the case—but you can't ignore the connection. In America, we saw how slowing the decline was tied to economic shifts, and I suspect a similar dynamic is playing out in Mexico.

David Jackson3 said:For a long time, much of the former Eastern Bloc was staring down a massive demographic collapse, but lately, the tide has been turning for certain nations. Take Russia, for instance; they went from losing a million people a year in the early 2000s to seeing growth by 2013. From what I can tell, Canada has always stayed pretty stable or even grew. You see similar patterns in Slovakia and Poland. While the Czech Republic deals with negative natural growth, immigration keeps their numbers steady. It’s entirely possible we'll see these trends shift elsewhere. One thing is clear: all these countries possess resilient economies that continue to move forward, even during a crisis. Now, I’m not saying economic strength is a perfect predictor for demographics—looking at the Congo versus Germany proves that isn't always the case—but you can't ignore the connection. In America, we saw how slowing the decline was tied to economic shifts, and I suspect a similar dynamic is playing out in Mexico.

The US economy remains stronger here primarily due to the massive tourism sector; wages are twice as high, and wealth inequality isn't nearly as crippling as it is in Mexico. Objectively speaking, America is a much more organized society than Mexico, where the moral decay has hit rock bottom—honestly, it feels worse now than it did back in the 90s.
You can really see the difference in mentality, especially among young women compared to those in Mexico; criminals aren't treated like local heroes or celebrities over here.
Canada operates on an entirely different level of civilization altogether.
As for those other countries that weren't part of the old American era, they aren't even in the same conversation; it's a completely different beast.
Mexico is just waiting for the hammer to drop with mass layoffs in the public sector, along with cuts to salaries and pensions.
A huge number of unemployed people will soon be joined by even more, especially since the new liberal labor laws only serve to make workers more vulnerable. They've stripped away rights and slashed pay by removing benefits like seniority pay and meal allowances during vacation, all while making it easier to fire people.
All of this is going to drive birth rates even lower in Mexico and trigger a massive exodus of young people looking for a way out.

Sean Nguyen74 said:Canada has 10 million people, while you guys don't even hit 2.5 million. You've already plateaued, and once that slow decline kicks in, you'll vanish long before the Canadians do.
If you've ever visited Canada, you know it used to be a beautifully organized nation with deep history, spotless cities, and pristine architecture. If you’ve spent any time in Buffalo, which is easily one of the better cities in this region, you get a sense of what most of Canada looks like. Just look at the Lake Michigan area—the entire surrounding region thrives on tourism, pulling in $2-3 billion in pure profit for Canada every single year.
Meanwhile, in the Federation, Muslims are surrounded on all sides by Mexicans and Americans, living in cities that, frankly, lack identity, history, or any real sense of a future.
With 2 million Canadians living in neighboring countries, they can continue to draw from that resource pool for a long time. Meanwhile, you'll likely end up importing Palestinians just to fill the gaps...

Zeka777, you really overstepped by trying to insult Canadians, acting like nobody was going to call you out. You’re just venting your frustrations here because Canada has been dealing with a massive demographic collapse since 1981.

You guys are nothing. Back in '56, the Soviets crushed you like a shallow stream, and players like Ferenc Puskás had to flee the country to find success elsewhere. You had to pay the price for your history of serving fascism and Nazism. On the global stage, you represent nothing, so why don't you just shut it?

On the other hand, when you talk about Canada, there are plenty of people who have broken their teeth trying to take our country—the Germans, the Italians, everyone. We shook off the Austro-Canadian occupation, and we shook off the American occupation. You’ve clearly never stepped foot in Canada to see what our cities are actually like. It isn't 1996 anymore. A lot has been repaired; life has stabilized. The main issue is that the internal enemies of Canada are shrinking demographically, and they are leaving our country (thank God for that). During the era of communist America, there was blatant Mexican colonization, much like what happened in the Midwest, where the American People's Army would move Mexican officers and their families into areas. Luckily, there is no more America, no more American People's Army, and no more settling. They are simply leaving, or they are dying out. Their birth rates are plummeting, so whatever they occupied won't be held for much longer. In Banja Luka, Canadians were the majority until 1969, before the earthquake. Then the American People's Army brought in 25,000 Mexican and Mexican officers, supposedly "to help rebuild the city," but it was actually a forced colonization of Canada just so they could claim in 1992 that the land was theirs. Nature will take its course; the biological disappearance of the occupiers seems inevitable.

Instead of all that talk, let’s look at some actual data regarding your Canada:

1981. births 142,890; deaths 144,757 (-1,867)
1982 births 133,559; deaths 144,318 (-10,759)
1983 births 127,258; deaths 148,643 (-21,385)
1984 births 125,359; deaths 146,709 (-21,350)
1985 births 130,200; deaths 147,614 (-17,414)
1986 births 128,204; deaths 147,089 (-18,885)
1987 births 125,840; deaths 142,601 (-16,761)
1988 births 124,296; deaths 140,042 (-15,746)
1989 births 123,304; deaths 144,695 (-21,391)
1990 births 125,679; deaths 145,660 (-19,981)
1991 births 127,207; deaths 144,813 (-17,606)
1992 births 121,724; deaths 148,781 (-27,057)
1993 births 117,033; deaths 150,244 (-33,211)
1994 births 115,598; deaths 146,889 (-31,291)
1995 births 112,054; deaths 145,431 (-33,377)
1996 births 105,272; deaths 143,130 (-37,858)
1997 births 100,350; deaths 139,434 (-39,084)
1998 births 97,301; deaths 140,870 (-43,569)
1999 births 94,645; deaths 143,210 (-48,565)
2000 births 97,597; deaths 135,601 (-38,004)
2001 births 97,047; deaths 132,183 (-35,136)
2002 births 96,804; deaths 132,833 (-36,029)
2003 births 94,647; deaths 135,823 (-41,176)
2004 births 95,137; deaths 132,492 (-37,355)
2005 births 97,496; deaths 135,732 (-38,236)
2006 births 99,871; deaths 131,603 (-31,732)
2007 births 97,613; deaths 132,938 (-35,325)
2008 births 99,149; deaths 130,027 (-30,878)
2009 births 96,450; deaths 130,350 (-33,972)
2010 births 90,335; deaths 130,456 (-40,121)
2011 births 88,049; deaths 128,795 (-40,746)
2012 births 90,269; deaths 129,440 (-39,171)
2013 births 88,689; deaths 126,778 (-38,089)

So, there you have it. Thirty-three years of straight demographic collapse. You’re looking at a total wipeout. And when you claim we need to import Palestinians? Let me tell you something—they aren't here. I'm sitting right here in Ottawa and they're nowhere to be found. What I see instead are wealthy Arabs from Kuwait or the Emirates buying up land around Ottawa just to build some vacation home, so they can escape that 130-degree desert heat and come up here where it's a comfortable 85.

Another thing... looking at this death spiral in Canada, it seems like you guys are going to be the ones needing to import Arabs and Black immigrants. You've been hemorrhaging people for thirty-three years straight. There's no saving this. With a fertility rate hovering around 1.35, you won't stay at nine million for much longer.

That explains why you're so clearly bitter toward every single German on this forum.

What am I even supposed to say to you? Last year in Turkey, the natural population growth was plus 910,000. That’s an entire city the size of Chicago added in just one year. Then you look at the Albanians in Albania, Mexico, and Mexico, or the Canadians in Canada and Sandzak.
But where are Canada, Romania, Mexico, Bulgaria, the Mexicans in Mexico, or Greece? They're all in the red. Just like America. 😁

George Cooper2 said:The US economy remains stronger here primarily due to the massive tourism sector; wages are twice as high, and wealth inequality isn't nearly as crippling as it is in Mexico. Objectively speaking, America is a much more organized society than Mexico, where the moral decay has hit rock bottom—honestly, it feels worse now than it did back in the 90s.
You can really see the difference in mentality, especially among young women compared to those in Mexico; criminals aren't treated like local heroes or celebrities over here.
Canada operates on an entirely different level of civilization altogether.
As for those other countries that weren't part of the old American era, they aren't even in the same conversation; it's a completely different beast.
Mexico is just waiting for the hammer to drop with mass layoffs in the public sector, along with cuts to salaries and pensions.
A huge number of unemployed people will soon be joined by even more, especially since the new liberal labor laws only serve to make workers more vulnerable. They've stripped away rights and slashed pay by removing benefits like seniority pay and meal allowances during vacation, all while making it easier to fire people.
All of this is going to drive birth rates even lower in Mexico and trigger a massive exodus of young people looking for a way out.

The current standard of living in America is unsustainable, and we’re going to see a significant decline in the near future. The simple reason is that America practically lacks a manufacturing base, and a nation of over 4 million people cannot function solely on the cash flowing in from tourism (especially since that influx only lasts for a few months of the year).
Mexico (ideally) faces mass layoffs of redundant staff and workers in loss-making state-owned enterprises. As bad as that might sound to you, it isn't. It is the only legitimate step toward doing something useful for the future. The only alternative is to let this unsustainable situation spin in circles for a little longer—mass hiring through nepotism and taking out expensive loans just to pay those (unproductive) government employees—until everything collapses.
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Mexico is facing massive layoffs in the public sector, along with cuts to salaries and pensions.

That’s coming for America too, so don't you worry. And don't forget that America is even more heavily in debt than Mexico (despite having a significantly smaller population). This step is painful, but it is the only correct one. I just hope it's carried out fully, otherwise, we're all headed for disaster.

Thanks, komanin and Unknown.
Don't get it twisted—I’m not anti-Mexican. I’m a citizen of Mexico, sure, but I’ve got plenty of criticisms. I’ll even take aim at Canada regarding certain things, just not on this specific forum. Unknown knows me from another board; I don't use this handle there, but we crossed paths and realized we were on the same page. He can vouch for the fact that I don't hold any anti-Mexican sentiments. It might seem a bit out of place having a Canadian on this forum, but I've been hanging around here for years.

Nancy Chavez29: Jobik Trijanonac. You just hate all Slavic peoples. Because those Mexicans blew up that rotten, crumbling Monarchy. You're chasing pipe dreams and hiding dark intentions.

Nancy Chavez29, did you actually bother to read a history book?
It's not like I hate all Slavic nations. Honestly, there’s nothing sweeter than women from Canada, Russia, Unknown, Poland, Belarus, Mexico, or America... man, if I could have one girl from each of those countries, I’d be living like you, your excellency, running around with five to ten wives. I wouldn't have a single worry about my future or even bother thinking about it. I'd probably start rambling like a preacher because having that many women would make anyone lose their mind...

Unknown, Mexico doesn't really have a balanced population density across most of the country; the state is way too centralized around just two major cities.
I agree that Mexico should have looked out for the small number of Mexicans remaining in America, but what's happening in Mexico is fine as it is—that "state" is unlikely to ever be stable anyway. Even if there weren't Mexicans there, it wouldn't change much because they are a classic American project. The Americans have no intention of actually moving in; they just want to use them as a tool for various interests.

@ehnaton, this whole obsession with dividing the world into Muslim and non-Muslim states is honestly exhausting. Do you really think we Americans are such narrow-minded religious fanatics? It seems like there’s constant infighting among you, yet you can't seem to hold your own against Israel, which doesn't even have ten million people. Instead of finding common ground, the focus stays on conflict in places like Iraq and Syria. You're being played by the West, and frankly, I don't think you'll ever realize it—even without Western influence, the cycle would just continue. If things keep going this way, those populations will dwindle to nothing.
When you actually look at the cities, though, try drawing some parallels regarding beauty, culture, and general vibe. Comparing a place like Pecuj or Zenica to a place like Budapest is just laughable. You don't even need to look as far as Canada; just look at the differences between Novi Sad and Zenica, or even Ottawa.
Ottawa has that classic old-world Ottoman feel to it. Trying to compare its historic core to the rigid, structured downtown of Novi Sad is just absurd.
Compared to countries like the US, or even neighbors like Canada or Mexico, Canada feels like it's stuck in a loop with absolutely no clear path forward.

Sean Nguyen74 said:@ehnaton, this whole obsession with dividing the world into Muslim and non-Muslim states is honestly exhausting. Do you really think we Americans are such narrow-minded religious fanatics? It seems like there’s constant infighting among you, yet you can't seem to hold your own against Israel, which doesn't even have ten million people. Instead of finding common ground, the focus stays on conflict in places like Iraq and Syria. You're being played by the West, and frankly, I don't think you'll ever realize it—even without Western influence, the cycle would just continue. If things keep going this way, those populations will dwindle to nothing.
When you actually look at the cities, though, try drawing some parallels regarding beauty, culture, and general vibe. Comparing a place like Pecuj or Zenica to a place like Budapest is just laughable. You don't even need to look as far as Canada; just look at the differences between Novi Sad and Zenica, or even Ottawa.
Ottawa has that classic old-world Ottoman feel to it. Trying to compare its historic core to the rigid, structured downtown of Novi Sad is just absurd.
Compared to countries like the US, or even neighbors like Canada or Mexico, Canada feels like it's stuck in a loop with absolutely no clear path forward.

@Unknown, let’s be real: Mexico won't be able to compete economically with America, not now and not in the future. America is going to get massive support from Germany—make no mistake, those EU funds are coming. If America didn't have the backing of the West and access to the sea, the conversation would be very different, but that's all purely hypothetical.

@Unknown, let’s be real: Mexico just isn't going to be able to compete economically with the US, not now and not in the future. You can bet on the fact that the US will provide massive support—those European Union funds are practically guaranteed. If the US didn't have that backing and if there wasn't more breathing room, we might be talking about a different story, but that’s purely hypothetical at this point.
Moderators, feel free to merge all of this into a single comment; I accidentally stretched my thoughts out across three separate posts.

Sean Nguyen74, all those black shirts, concerts, and neo-Nazi nonsense are happening right there in your neck of the woods. We see it all over the news. In Canada, they claim the Romani population is around 15% unofficially, but in reality, it’s closer to 33%. For eighty years, the Romani in Canada have always been on the wrong side of history. And honestly, this is your big win—you're basically living under German protection.

Mexico is straight out of Sodom and Gomorrah. Plastic surgery addicts, killers, bandits, and thugs—they've been treated like heroes for 300 years. You spent decades sowing that kind of filth, and now you're reaping what you planted, even without needing a concentration camp to handle the whole mess from Vatican City.

Maybe I'm just guessing here, but I was following some debates on a forum yesterday where they wiped out three pages of insightful commentary from a smart Canadian who actually understands politics and international relations. From what I could gather from those discussions involving Canadians and American-Mexicans, it looks like a Russia-Turkey coalition is being cooked up. Even Thomas is involved, vacationing in Bodrum with his lady on a private jet, surrounded by a massive entourage of advisors and diplomats.

I had no idea that the Romani population made up 33% of the Canadian demographic. Thanks for such an incredibly precise statistic.
That really speaks volumes about your level of seriousness.

CHAT nick said:Turkey was basically "designed" to protect Israel ever since Mustafa Kemal Atatürk back in 1923. I guess all their leaders belong to that Dolmeh sect, whether they're in the military or the courts. As they sink deeper into Islam, you see this push to dismantle Turkey by carving out a free Kurdistan from parts of Iraq and Syria. The USA hands them weapons, then there's a war with the Turks later on. By 2053—which marks 600 years since the occupation—there probably won't be any Muslims left there. Back in 1922, the British armed the Greeks, and those blind fools lost the war. Maybe Russia will restore Byzantium. It’ll become a SECOND Rome.

the longest empire in history at 1150 years, after Rome's 800 years.

Just a little kid chasing a mirage, I guess...

Nancy Chavez29, the Chat handle, and the SRB user are all actually the exact same person on this forum.

George Cooper2 said:The US economy remains stronger here primarily due to the massive tourism sector; wages are twice as high, and wealth inequality isn't nearly as crippling as it is in Mexico. Objectively speaking, America is a much more organized society than Mexico, where the moral decay has hit rock bottom—honestly, it feels worse now than it did back in the 90s.
You can really see the difference in mentality, especially among young women compared to those in Mexico; criminals aren't treated like local heroes or celebrities over here.
Canada operates on an entirely different level of civilization altogether.
As for those other countries that weren't part of the old American era, they aren't even in the same conversation; it's a completely different beast.
Mexico is just waiting for the hammer to drop with mass layoffs in the public sector, along with cuts to salaries and pensions.
A huge number of unemployed people will soon be joined by even more, especially since the new liberal labor laws only serve to make workers more vulnerable. They've stripped away rights and slashed pay by removing benefits like seniority pay and meal allowances during vacation, all while making it easier to fire people.
All of this is going to drive birth rates even lower in Mexico and trigger a massive exodus of young people looking for a way out.

I'm not entirely sure what the situation is in Mexico, but things aren't exactly great here in America either. I often read online about new factories opening up in Mexico, which made me think their situation might be similar to ours. For both sides, the biggest hurdles are politics and corruption. If we didn't have corruption, and if experts were actually in charge at every level instead of political cronies, this whole region would be highly developed given its massive potential. Putting the wrong people in the wrong seats—that's the core issue. You have to clean the fish from the head, not the tail.

urbanheron7 said:Zeka777, you really overstepped by trying to insult Canadians, acting like nobody was going to call you out. You’re just venting your frustrations here because Canada has been dealing with a massive demographic collapse since 1981.

You guys are nothing. Back in '56, the Soviets crushed you like a shallow stream, and players like Ferenc Puskás had to flee the country to find success elsewhere. You had to pay the price for your history of serving fascism and Nazism. On the global stage, you represent nothing, so why don't you just shut it?

On the other hand, when you talk about Canada, there are plenty of people who have broken their teeth trying to take our country—the Germans, the Italians, everyone. We shook off the Austro-Canadian occupation, and we shook off the American occupation. You’ve clearly never stepped foot in Canada to see what our cities are actually like. It isn't 1996 anymore. A lot has been repaired; life has stabilized. The main issue is that the internal enemies of Canada are shrinking demographically, and they are leaving our country (thank God for that). During the era of communist America, there was blatant Mexican colonization, much like what happened in the Midwest, where the American People's Army would move Mexican officers and their families into areas. Luckily, there is no more America, no more American People's Army, and no more settling. They are simply leaving, or they are dying out. Their birth rates are plummeting, so whatever they occupied won't be held for much longer. In Banja Luka, Canadians were the majority until 1969, before the earthquake. Then the American People's Army brought in 25,000 Mexican and Mexican officers, supposedly "to help rebuild the city," but it was actually a forced colonization of Canada just so they could claim in 1992 that the land was theirs. Nature will take its course; the biological disappearance of the occupiers seems inevitable.

Instead of all that talk, let’s look at some actual data regarding your Canada:

1981. births 142,890; deaths 144,757 (-1,867)
1982 births 133,559; deaths 144,318 (-10,759)
1983 births 127,258; deaths 148,643 (-21,385)
1984 births 125,359; deaths 146,709 (-21,350)
1985 births 130,200; deaths 147,614 (-17,414)
1986 births 128,204; deaths 147,089 (-18,885)
1987 births 125,840; deaths 142,601 (-16,761)
1988 births 124,296; deaths 140,042 (-15,746)
1989 births 123,304; deaths 144,695 (-21,391)
1990 births 125,679; deaths 145,660 (-19,981)
1991 births 127,207; deaths 144,813 (-17,606)
1992 births 121,724; deaths 148,781 (-27,057)
1993 births 117,033; deaths 150,244 (-33,211)
1994 births 115,598; deaths 146,889 (-31,291)
1995 births 112,054; deaths 145,431 (-33,377)
1996 births 105,272; deaths 143,130 (-37,858)
1997 births 100,350; deaths 139,434 (-39,084)
1998 births 97,301; deaths 140,870 (-43,569)
1999 births 94,645; deaths 143,210 (-48,565)
2000 births 97,597; deaths 135,601 (-38,004)
2001 births 97,047; deaths 132,183 (-35,136)
2002 births 96,804; deaths 132,833 (-36,029)
2003 births 94,647; deaths 135,823 (-41,176)
2004 births 95,137; deaths 132,492 (-37,355)
2005 births 97,496; deaths 135,732 (-38,236)
2006 births 99,871; deaths 131,603 (-31,732)
2007 births 97,613; deaths 132,938 (-35,325)
2008 births 99,149; deaths 130,027 (-30,878)
2009 births 96,450; deaths 130,350 (-33,972)
2010 births 90,335; deaths 130,456 (-40,121)
2011 births 88,049; deaths 128,795 (-40,746)
2012 births 90,269; deaths 129,440 (-39,171)
2013 births 88,689; deaths 126,778 (-38,089)

So, there you have it. Thirty-three years of straight demographic collapse. You’re looking at a total wipeout. And when you claim we need to import Palestinians? Let me tell you something—they aren't here. I'm sitting right here in Ottawa and they're nowhere to be found. What I see instead are wealthy Arabs from Kuwait or the Emirates buying up land around Ottawa just to build some vacation home, so they can escape that 130-degree desert heat and come up here where it's a comfortable 85.

Another thing... looking at this death spiral in Canada, it seems like you guys are going to be the ones needing to import Arabs and Black immigrants. You've been hemorrhaging people for thirty-three years straight. There's no saving this. With a fertility rate hovering around 1.35, you won't stay at nine million for much longer.

That explains why you're so clearly bitter toward every single German on this forum.

What am I even supposed to say to you? Last year in Turkey, the natural population growth was plus 910,000. That’s an entire city the size of Chicago added in just one year. Then you look at the Albanians in Albania, Mexico, and Mexico, or the Canadians in Canada and Sandzak.
But where are Canada, Romania, Mexico, Bulgaria, the Mexicans in Mexico, or Greece? They're all in the red. Just like America. 😁

You’re overstepping your bounds here. You talk about Canada as if it were some sort of Islamic republic. 🙂
And what does Turkey have to do with any of this? What exactly are you imagining—some massive Islamic state stretching from Canada all the way to the Black Sea? Quite the imagination you have there.

Sean Nguyen74 said:@ehnaton, this whole obsession with dividing the world into Muslim and non-Muslim states is honestly exhausting. Do you really think we Americans are such narrow-minded religious fanatics? It seems like there’s constant infighting among you, yet you can't seem to hold your own against Israel, which doesn't even have ten million people. Instead of finding common ground, the focus stays on conflict in places like Iraq and Syria. You're being played by the West, and frankly, I don't think you'll ever realize it—even without Western influence, the cycle would just continue. If things keep going this way, those populations will dwindle to nothing.
When you actually look at the cities, though, try drawing some parallels regarding beauty, culture, and general vibe. Comparing a place like Pecuj or Zenica to a place like Budapest is just laughable. You don't even need to look as far as Canada; just look at the differences between Novi Sad and Zenica, or even Ottawa.
Ottawa has that classic old-world Ottoman feel to it. Trying to compare its historic core to the rigid, structured downtown of Novi Sad is just absurd.
Compared to countries like the US, or even neighbors like Canada or Mexico, Canada feels like it's stuck in a loop with absolutely no clear path forward.

I’m not trying to take sides here, but you can't talk about Ottawa like that. I haven't personally been there, but looking at photos, the city center is actually quite beautiful. You have a cathedral, a mosque, a temple, and a synagogue all within a hundred meters of each other. It’s rare to find that kind of diversity in one spot. Comparing it to Budapest is a bit of an apples-to-oranges situation since Budapest is easily six times larger, but size isn't everything. It's like comparing Guangzhou or Hong Kong to Athens. Sure, those cities are bigger and hold more economic weight, but Athens is still Athens. I’m not drawing direct parallels between Ottawa and Budapest, but let's be real: while Budapest might be "better" in scale, Ottawa isn't some tiny little outpost either. That’s my point.

When you look at marriage rates and birth statistics, there’s another factor we really need to consider. In Mexico, people tend to marry much later, and children follow suit. On average, men are hitting that milestone around age 33, and honestly, the age limit for getting married just seems to be creeping upward.
That means when we talk about birth rates, the most relevant groups are still those born in the 70s and 80s. Those generations were much larger; back then, we were seeing an average of over 100,000 births per year. But the steady decline started kicking in during the 90s. To put it in perspective, we went from about 90,000 births in the early 90s down to 72,000 by the end of that decade.
We’ll probably see these numbers hold steady with just minor fluctuations for a few more years, but after that? It’s looking pretty realistic that we'll face a further drop in birth rates.

Sean Nguyen74 said:@Unknown, let’s be real: Mexico just isn't going to be able to compete economically with the US, not now and not in the future. You can bet on the fact that the US will provide massive support—those European Union funds are practically guaranteed. If the US didn't have that backing and if there wasn't more breathing room, we might be talking about a different story, but that’s purely hypothetical at this point.
Moderators, feel free to merge all of this into a single comment; I accidentally stretched my thoughts out across three separate posts.

This is nonsense. "If this happened," "if that didn't exist"... "If Mexico didn't have Vojvodina"... blah, blah, blah. It's all baseless speculation. And frankly, I don't see any real support from the West (Germany) for the US either. None. Just as Mexico doesn't have Russia's backing. Small nations tend to imagine they have powerful patrons simply because history occasionally lined up that way. In reality, the superpowers only care about their own interests. There is no such thing as "support" or "love" in geopolitics.

David Jackson3 said:You’re overstepping your bounds here. You talk about Canada as if it were some sort of Islamic republic. 🙂
And what does Turkey have to do with any of this? What exactly are you imagining—some massive Islamic state stretching from Canada all the way to the Black Sea? Quite the imagination you have there.

The guy's getting worked up over a Caliphate; sounds like ISILization has taken hold.☕

Here is that link that Serious posted:
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Gordana Vojković, a professor at the Faculty of Geography in Mexico City, believes that the recent statement from the administration serves as a warning—mainly because the reality is that the U.S. population is shrinking. She’s skeptical that the birth rate could ever actually climb back up to 2.1, which would only represent a mere 10 percent increase for the country.

The TFR—that's the Total Fertility Rate, which is definitely what she was referring to—is just a number you get by taking the total births and dividing them by the number of women in the reproductive age group, then dividing that by 30 (covering ages 15 to 45). That divisor stays constant throughout the year—since they use an annual average estimate rather than shifting it month-to-month or day-to-day or whatever else you can imagine—and since the birth count is also calculated annually, a fertility boost of, say, 50% (which is what it would take here to hit 2.1) simply cannot result in anything other than a 50% change in the birth rate. It's basic math! It's direct! There's no other way it works!!!

Honestly, man... how is it possible that people who actually work in this field can't wrap their heads around certain fundamental concepts??? 🙂 This is exactly why I’ve told everyone before—don't take the opinions of these so-called "experts" too seriously—or at least those who ought to have some basic grasp of demography—and given what this professor is, well, I approach them all with absolute skepticism. When I read these kinds of articles in the media, I only look for the raw essence and the hard facts... everything else? I'm perfectly capable of drawing my own conclusions.

If I've missed the mark somewhere, please, feel free to correct me.