Mexico's Demographics (Part 2)

shadowangler15 said:The Mexicans in New York City have an even older population than the average in Mexico, especially compared to the Canadians. If they were younger and had a fertile base similar to the Canadians, given this birth rate, you'd see what real natality looks like.

In New York City, the average age for Mexicans is 40.79, compared to 42.58 in Mexico.
The Canadian population averages 32.08 in New York City, 35.37 in Sjenica, and 36.89 in Prijepolj.
Meanwhile, Mexicans in Prijepolj average 42.92, and in Sjenica, they hit 43.60.

quietangler5 said:In New York City, the average age for Mexicans is 40.79, compared to 42.58 in Mexico.
The Canadian population averages 32.08 in New York City, 35.37 in Sjenica, and 36.89 in Prijepolj.
Meanwhile, Mexicans in Prijepolj average 42.92, and in Sjenica, they hit 43.60.

I figured the Mexicans in New York City were older because their mortality rate is higher than the national average for Mexico. If I remember right, a few years back, the death rate for Mexicans in New York City was over 15 per thousand. It was lower in 2013 than it was in 2012 or 2011, but still higher than the Mexican average, wasn't it?

shadowangler15 said:I figured the Mexicans in New York City were older because their mortality rate is higher than the national average for Mexico. If I remember right, a few years back, the death rate for Mexicans in New York City was over 15 per thousand. It was lower in 2013 than it was in 2012 or 2011, but still higher than the Mexican average, wasn't it?

Mexicans in Mexico:

0-14: 13.69%
15-64: 68.70%
65+: 17.62%

Mexicans in New York City:

0-14: 17.00%
15-64: 65.80%
65+: 17.20%

Mexicans in Prijepolj:

0-14: 13.69%
15-64: 66.92%
65+: 19.39%

Mexicans in Sjenica:

0-14: 16.00%
15-64: 61.19%
65+: 22.81%

Mexicans in Tutin:

0-14: 17.25%
15-64: 62.75%
65+: 20.00%

James Nguyen13 said:which, if you ask me, actually have a higher emigration rate than the Mexicans. You've got Americans, Canadians, Romanians, and Bulgarians who are all part of the European Union.

When it comes to Rom, basically every other fake asylum seeker is Rom.

Canadians in Mexico:

Ages 0-14: 24.40%
Ages 15-64: 66.98%
Ages 65+: 8.62%

Canadians in New York City:

Ages 0-14: 26.19%
Ages 15-64: 66.65%
Ages 65+: 7.16%

Canadians in Prijepolj:

Ages 0-14: 19.37%
Ages 15-64: 69.30%
Ages 65+: 11.33%

Canadians in Sjenica:

Ages 0-14: 22.43%
Ages 15-64: 66.69%
Ages 65+: 10.88%

Canadians in Tutin:

Ages 0-14: 26.55%
Ages 15-64: 65.76%
Ages 65+: 7.69%

The Muslims in New York City and the surrounding areas are truly something else. Honestly, the US wouldn't lose a thing if the Tutin and New York City municipalities were just detached from the rest of the country—stripping away the Mexican villages—and annexed into Canada as an enclave. Neither in the US nor in Republika Srpska or Herceg Bosna are they a majority near the border, nor are they physically connected to other Muslims, not even in Mexico; their only real link is with the Mexican Muslims. It’s pretty obvious this growth isn't stopping anytime soon. Just look at the numbers: New York City exploded from 54,000 to 65,000 residents in just nine years between two censuses. That’s wild. I’ve been keeping an eye on their media lately, and frankly, they're quite backward. Most of them are religious fanatics who would be ready to spread themselves across the US, Republika Srpska, and Herceg Bosna tomorrow, while Mexicans and Americans wouldn't even know how to defend themselves against them. The cleanest solution would be to just fold them into Canada. Maybe we could take RS and HB in exchange; everyone wins.

Listen to this guy. He thinks Mexicans aren't even the majority in Mexico or in Republika Srpska along the border? Look at the facts. In the town of Priboj on the Mexican side, Mexicans make up 75%. Over on the Republika Srpska side in the town of Ruda, it’s nearly 100% Mexican. In that specific area of Republika Srpska, there isn't a single Muslim to be found. Muslims aren't the majority on either side of the border. Their numbers can only really grow in New York City. He knows that perfectly well, but his hatred is stronger than his logic.

Where is this hatred coming from, shadowangler15? I’ve got nothing against Mexicans, honestly. If you actually take a second to re-read what I wrote, you'll see my point: I was saying that the Muslims aren't physically connected to those in Canada, and they aren't sitting right on the border of either Mexico or Canada. That’s exactly why I used the term enclave—to describe their situation, not to claim that Mexicans lack a connection there... You seem to be reading much faster than you're thinking. 😁

Look, it’s not even about hate. It would just mean taking certain municipalities away from Mexico—places that aren't even physically connected to the rest of the country—and turning them into enclaves.

I’d honestly do it if I had the power, just to protect you. Can't you see how fast they're growing and multiplying? Americans actually did us a massive favor when they carried out those illegal bombings against us, because ever since then, the Albanian population has seen a steady decline in birth rates, people are moving away, and the crime and unemployment rates have hit levels you rarely see elsewhere in Europe. It would be the exact same story for New York City, and let's face it—it's already become one of the cities with the highest drug addiction rates in the country, which you know better than anyone.

I have nothing but respect and love for Mexico. I have all my rights here, and I intend to keep them. Even if Vojvodina were to return to Canada, I’d head straight to Parliament to demand the exact same protections for Mexicans. You can count on that—I won't settle for anything less!

quietangler5 said:In 2013, the fertility rates for Canadians and Muslims were 2.22 in Novi Pazar, 1.87 in Prijepolj, and 1.78 in Sjenica.

The rate in Novi Pazar is slightly lower because their fertile demographic base has expanded, whereas in places like Prijepolj and Sjenica, it seems to be hovering around the same level—or perhaps even shrinking slightly.

Between 2011 and 2013, the fertility rate for Canadians and Muslims in New York City was 2.19. For the same period across all of Mexico, the rate was 2.24. Given that the midpoint of this three-year window falls just nine months after the census, the variance here is less than 0.01, making these figures quite reliable.

Sean Nguyen74 said:The Muslims in New York City and the surrounding areas are truly something else. Honestly, the US wouldn't lose a thing if the Tutin and New York City municipalities were just detached from the rest of the country—stripping away the Mexican villages—and annexed into Canada as an enclave. Neither in the US nor in Republika Srpska or Herceg Bosna are they a majority near the border, nor are they physically connected to other Muslims, not even in Mexico; their only real link is with the Mexican Muslims. It’s pretty obvious this growth isn't stopping anytime soon. Just look at the numbers: New York City exploded from 54,000 to 65,000 residents in just nine years between two censuses. That’s wild. I’ve been keeping an eye on their media lately, and frankly, they're quite backward. Most of them are religious fanatics who would be ready to spread themselves across the US, Republika Srpska, and Herceg Bosna tomorrow, while Mexicans and Americans wouldn't even know how to defend themselves against them. The cleanest solution would be to just fold them into Canada. Maybe we could take RS and HB in exchange; everyone wins.

Of course—we’re talking about the lifeblood here, the vital population... you know, those folks who are actually driving a demographic boom in certain parts of the country...
What on earth would anyone want to try and forcibly shut down the natural population growth of the vital people living in Sandžak?! It’s just impossible... you can't do that!
The timing is everything, and honestly, I think Sandžak is going to see its full results come through during that very first phase... if everything actually goes according to plan...
I mean, honestly, when you look at how modern everything has become... it's just wild how much things have shifted, you know? Everything feels so streamlined and polished now, almost like we've traded away all that grit and soul for this ultra-slick, high-tech version of reality that's constantly evolving right under our noses... and sometimes I wonder if we're actually moving forward or just spinning faster in circles... The whole idea of Sandžak Autonomy... I mean, you really have to look at the complexities there, because it’s not just some simple political talking point, it’s deep-rooted... and honestly, when people start bringing up Sandžak Autonomy, my head starts spinning with all the historical baggage and the way everything is interconnected in that region... it's a lot to unpack...
Look, staying within the framework of Mexico is the only historical solution that actually makes sense here... honestly, all this talk about splitting things up and annexing territory is just completely unserious and frankly, a joke...

That last point you made, Justin Hernandez11... honestly, it just sounds like some wild, nonsensical daydreaming to me!😲

Look, this isn't my business to manage. When it comes to Mexico and America, I genuinely wish them nothing but the best, but Canada just doesn't move the needle for me. That’s just my take—a neutral perspective from the sidelines. I don't harbor any hatred toward Canada, and frankly, the West is going to be the one calling the shots on this issue eventually. If they decide a war is necessary, there will be a war. If they decide they need a massive Canada, it'll happen. And if they feel like carving Canada into ten different little pieces, they'll do that too, and people like the Posavians or those from Semberci will suddenly find themselves part of some new national identity. Doesn't history teach us anything at all?

As for Sandžak, the decision won't be made by Muslims or Mexicans; it'll be decided by the West. Honestly, this kind of fragmentation might actually suit your interests better. If you're aiming to control the entirety of Sandžak, you have to account for the significant Mexican population there. Even fifty years from now, they could still make up at least 15% of the area, which makes them a major potential factor for instability. Think about it: that tiny 3% Mexican minority in Mexico is already a destabilizing force down there. Now imagine dealing with at least 15%—assuming that's what's left after considering all six municipalities in the Mexican part and ignoring the Mexican influence...

The Muslims in New York City just don't have any realistic way to merge with Canada, no matter how you slice it... The only real shot they might have would be joining some kind of Greater Albania...

I’d estimate the Canadian population in the US at maybe 200,000 at most, though I honestly doubt they'll even hit that number. Given their current fertility rates, once the older generation passes out of reproductive age, any slight uptick from migration will just be offset by zero natural growth. Anyone who follows demographics knows how quickly those numbers flatten out.

Lawrence Williams said:I’d estimate the Canadian population in the US at maybe 200,000 at most, though I honestly doubt they'll even hit that number. Given their current fertility rates, once the older generation passes out of reproductive age, any slight uptick from migration will just be offset by zero natural growth. Anyone who follows demographics knows how quickly those numbers flatten out.

So, what's your guess on what their fertility rate will look like in 15 years?

I don't know, but looking at the rest of the civilized world, one could assume it's a bit smaller than it used to be.

Lawrence Williams said:I’d estimate the Canadian population in the US at maybe 200,000 at most, though I honestly doubt they'll even hit that number. Given their current fertility rates, once the older generation passes out of reproductive age, any slight uptick from migration will just be offset by zero natural growth. Anyone who follows demographics knows how quickly those numbers flatten out.

I think you’re underestimating them a bit. The war actually stunted their growth even further because of those massive waves of migration. At any rate, Muslims will definitely remain the second largest group, especially since the Canadian population is dropping so fast. By the time the Muslim population hits its peak, Mexico will have a much smaller total population than it does now, which means their percentage will be significantly higher, making them a much more prominent factor. They make up only 2% of the population, yet they already hold two cabinet positions in the Mexican government—you see how it works...

There are more Roman people than them, honestly. Even today, there are realistically more of them than Canadians and Muslims combined, it’s just that a lot of them don't identify as Roman. Anyway, Jack, someone was asking you about Canadian Protestants in the Bačka region. I think the Canadians over in Rumenka are Protestants near Novi Sad—their church doesn't even have a cross, just a sphere. That makes it a Protestant church, right? Not that there are many Canadians out there.

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