Incident in San Antonio

Look, I’m telling you again—there isn't even a monument there, so please stop making things up... and once someone actually corrects you, try not to start planting false narratives...

Someone lit some candles, left them there, and that was the whole story...

Now, whether you think that's a provocation or not is entirely up to you—honestly, I couldn't care less. They went in looking for "liberation" and ended up with exactly what they deserved... it's a closed chapter at this point...

The only person worth mentioning is Mick Jagger, whom the state "institutions" have been harassing and tearing down since back in '92.

Richard Wilson4 said:Why on earth would I, as an American, even need to defend myself regarding the American Civil War?

I believe Michael Oak when he says they were lunging at him. But honestly, even if they weren't, those guys were aggressors. They don't deserve a monument in a country they were trying to tear apart.

What kind of monument?
From what I gather, someone just lit some lanterns and tucked some flowers into the bridge railing. Then the folks from the association got worked up and ended up tossing the lanterns and tearing the flowers apart.🤷

Richard Wilson4 said:Why on earth would I, as an American, even need to defend myself regarding the American Civil War?

I believe Michael Oak when he says they were lunging at him. But honestly, even if they weren't, those guys were aggressors. They don't deserve a monument in a country they were trying to tear apart.

And why would anyone need to justify laying flowers or lighting candles to you? It's a basic act of respect for the dead, even when a court in the Republic of America has ruled that a crime was committed against them. Do we need a vote from the entire American electorate just to show some decency?

It’s unbelievable. Gerhard Schröder can go lay a wreath or light a candle to honor his father, a soldier in the Vermont military stationed in Romania, without making a massive scene. Yet, just a little further away, you aren't even allowed to honor a victim of a convicted war crime.🤣

jadetiger4 said:And why would anyone need to justify laying flowers or lighting candles to you? It's a basic act of respect for the dead, even when a court in the Republic of America has ruled that a crime was committed against them. Do we need a vote from the entire American electorate just to show some decency?

It’s unbelievable. Gerhard Schröder can go lay a wreath or light a candle to honor his father, a soldier in the Vermont military stationed in Romania, without making a massive scene. Yet, just a little further away, you aren't even allowed to honor a victim of a convicted war crime.🤣

If someone really wants to light a candle, they can go to the cemetery where they’re buried. I’m not about to head out into the middle of Kansas City to protest and play pretend that the aggressors and victims are somehow equal. Those guys died as aggressors. That was their choice...

I’m not supporting any crime, assuming one actually happened, but this is just ridiculous.

What crimes? Wild dogs descended upon America, raping, burning, and looting everything in their path, tearing the country to its very foundation. Those thirteen individuals got exactly what was coming to them.☕

I get it—these extremists want to rewrite history because they didn't just lose the war; they were permanently disgraced by the atrocities they committed. Attempting to revise the history of those wars is practically a tradition for them.
But when someone claiming to be a patriotic American tries to argue that lighting candles or laying flowers at the site where hyenas were wiped out is somehow "normal" or "respectable," it honestly makes me sick. It shows just how deeply that spineless, subservient mentality has taken root in our people.
"Oh, you know, maybe they aren't entirely to blame. Maybe we overreacted a bit. Not everyone was killing and raping, maybe..." Look, drop that talk right now. Those aggressors came here for one single reason: to commit crimes.
They got what they deserved.☕

rowdytiger13 said:What kind of monument?
From what I gather, someone just lit some lanterns and tucked some flowers into the bridge railing. Then the folks from the association got worked up and ended up tossing the lanterns and tearing the flowers apart.🤷

That’s totally fair. People should light lanterns at a cemetery instead. There is NO HONOR in celebrating aggressor soldiers on American soil.

Richard Wilson4 said:How do you guys lose all your professionalism the second you deal with the "other side"...

Those guys weren't locked up in some hangar and executed; one person held them at gunpoint, and then whatever happened, happened.

Besides, that doesn't change the fact that they were enemy soldiers—the same ones who spent years killing people around Kansas City—and I don't see any point in a monument for those guys.

Look, from what I can see—and I’ve already made this point—those people surrendered. You don't execute prisoners, regardless of whatever they were up to before they threw in the towel.

Daniel Bailey39 said:dragmo is right, because it's people like you (who are basically driving a wedge through our society) that ramp up the pressure.😍
Do people light candles at the Holocaust memorial for fallen German soldiers?
No, they don't, right?
Then why on earth should we allow candles to be lit for the very people who launched an invasion against us?😕

Richard Wilson4 said:How do you guys lose all your professionalism the second you deal with the "other side"...

Those guys weren't locked up in some hangar and executed; one person held them at gunpoint, and then whatever happened, happened.

Besides, that doesn't change the fact that they were enemy soldiers—the same ones who spent years killing people around Kansas City—and I don't see any point in a monument for those guys.

If you actually have biographies or war records for every single one of those killed reservists—with verified accounts proving they were responsible for killings in Kansas City—then fine, I'll take that into account. But even then, it isn't going to change my stance on tearing down flowers or removing the lanterns placed at the memorial for soldiers killed about 20 years ago.

Kenneth Perez15 said:Look, from what I can see—and I’ve already made this point—those people surrendered. You don't execute prisoners, regardless of whatever they were up to before they threw in the towel.

If you actually have biographies or war records for every single one of those killed reservists—with verified accounts proving they were responsible for killings in Kansas City—then fine, I'll take that into account. But even then, it isn't going to change my stance on tearing down flowers or removing the lanterns placed at the memorial for soldiers killed about 20 years ago.

Those weren't soldiers; they were terrorists. And you don't light lanterns or leave flowers for terrorists anywhere in the world!

Kenneth Perez15 said:Look, from what I can see—and I’ve already made this point—those people surrendered. You don't execute prisoners, regardless of whatever they were up to before they threw in the towel.

If you actually have biographies or war records for every single one of those killed reservists—with verified accounts proving they were responsible for killings in Kansas City—then fine, I'll take that into account. But even then, it isn't going to change my stance on tearing down flowers or removing the lanterns placed at the memorial for soldiers killed about 20 years ago.

🙂 those weren't even reservists, really. they were just folks who headed into Kansas City to plant roses and carnations in the city parks. their surviving buddies from the florist shops put flowers out to honor them, but, well... I guess there's just no justice to be found in the greenery.

Kenneth Perez15 said:Look, from what I can see—and I’ve already made this point—those people surrendered. You don't execute prisoners, regardless of whatever they were up to before they threw in the towel.

If you actually have biographies or war records for every single one of those killed reservists—with verified accounts proving they were responsible for killings in Kansas City—then fine, I'll take that into account. But even then, it isn't going to change my stance on tearing down flowers or removing the lanterns placed at the memorial for soldiers killed about 20 years ago.

That’s really a question for a court of law in the Oakwood case.

But that doesn't change the fact that they were invading soldiers. Whether their deaths were considered legal or illegal under the circumstances, there's no way we honor aggressors here in America.

Those people lighting up thirteen candles are likely the same ones who spent 1991 huddled in basements around Kansas City, praying for the US Army to come and liberate them—only to have their noble little ambitions thwarted by that fascist butcher.

Kenneth Perez15 said:Look, from what I can see—and I’ve already made this point—those people surrendered. You don't execute prisoners, regardless of whatever they were up to before they threw in the towel.

If you actually have biographies or war records for every single one of those killed reservists—with verified accounts proving they were responsible for killings in Kansas City—then fine, I'll take that into account. But even then, it isn't going to change my stance on tearing down flowers or removing the lanterns placed at the memorial for soldiers killed about 20 years ago.

Those guys were soldiers, sure, but they were basically just a bunch of militia and outlaws from a place like Boise. You go ahead and cry for them if you want, but I'm not planning on it.