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Austin Garcia3 Austin Garcia3 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
So, I’m dealing with some heavy stuff involving my mom—she’s been physically and emotionally abusive toward me my entire life.
We don't live together, and I still make visits every now and then. I’ve finally managed to reach this super fragile kind of balance where I just dodge any serious topics to keep the peace, but we still have a relationship. The real issue is that the fighting between her and my stepfather has escalated into physical violence. Honestly, she’s usually the one instigating it more than he is, but since he’s physically stronger, he ends up being the one blamed for everything.
The other day, she sent me a photo of her forehead—there was this huge injury covering half her face that could only have come from a direct hit. Then, she claimed it was just a "rash"?! But right after that, she sends another message showing a massive bruise on her arm. It’s pretty obvious she’s crying out for help, even if she won't say it directly.
I’ve thought about asking her to come stay with me for a bit, but I know that would just open the door for her to abuse me again—and let's be real, she wouldn't even be grateful. She’d probably just take her frustrations out on me. I really don't feel like she deserves me to sacrifice myself like that. I’m in a really vulnerable spot right now with a ton of responsibilities, and I know she’d mentally drain me to the point where I'd lose focus on my work. I’ve already missed out on way too many opportunities because of her outbursts, which always leave me spiraling into depression for months at a time.
Still, I can't shake this feeling that I'm a bad person if I don't step in. I'm even terrified that something might happen to her—like, maybe an accident, like she trips down the stairs.
I'm open to any thoughts or advice you guys might have.
hollowbadger692 hollowbadger692 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2013
#2 ·
What you’re describing sounds like nothing more than pure speculation. Honestly, you don't actually know what's going on—you're just spinning a narrative based on a single photo. If the situation were truly dire enough to threaten her life, or if she actually felt that level of danger, I highly doubt she would be casually sending photos of her "mess" to anyone.
I assume you aren't under any obligation—not even to think about diving headfirst into this mess, let alone offering full-scale support—even if your assumptions happen to be correct. If this really is a case of domestic violence, the smartest move is to seek professional advice from an organization like the National Domestic Violence Hotline or a local women's shelter—people who actually deal with this stuff. From my own experience, I'd say getting directly involved in these situations is rarely a wise move, regardless of who is involved.
electricangler32 electricangler32 Newcomer
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#3 ·
She’s just trying to trigger your guilt so she can worm her way back into your life. I’ve been through this exact scenario before—people like that don't change. You know exactly who she is, and you're spot on when you say she’s using you as her personal therapist. It’s a pattern she’s leaned on her whole life, isn't it? Don't sabotage yourself here. Give yourself a fighting chance to actually build something meaningful instead of putting your entire life on hold! I get that it's tough, but your mother is a grown woman and she's solely responsible for her own actions.
ironrider11 ironrider11 Regular
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#4 ·
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Jonathan Howard Jonathan Howard Member
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#5 ·
ironrider11 said:no

Exactly.

@Austin Garcia3; if you let her manipulate you now, you’re basically signing up to be her emotional punching bag for the rest of her life. I know that guilt is eating you alive—believe me, I get it—but
read this slowly
there is a massive gap between the person who spends their whole life being a doormat, constantly catering to everyone else (mom, spouse, kids, friends) only to end up miserable, lonely, and unappreciated
and
the person who respects themselves enough to act in their own best interest, while still being capable of giving plenty, but knowing exactly when to say no
the difference is that a healthy, successful adult doesn't take any crap.

Your mother is still playing you, and she always will, by pulling the sympathy card. She didn't just sit you down and say, "Look, we haven't seen eye to eye for years, but I really need your help." Instead, she's showing you bruises through subtext and acting helpless, waiting for you to jump in because that's the pattern she's used to. And once you try to break that cycle by offering help on your own terms, people like that will turn it around on you. They'll play the martyr, saying stuff like, "Oh no, don't worry about me, just take care of yourself," making everyone feel sorry for them while they continue to walk all over you.

She probably isn't even aware she's a bad parent or how much her behavior impacts you. Honestly, she likely never will be. Don't waste your energy trying to connect or explain things to her—that's a dead end. If you keep trying, you'll just spiral into depressions that no one else can pull you out of.
Just because she doesn't realize what she's doing doesn't give you permission to remain her servant, even if she is your parent. In fact, that's exactly why you have to set the boundary.

You need to get your head straight. If something happens to her, you aren't obligated to hover over her constantly, especially since she isn't disabled. Your mother is responsible for her own life, regardless of what happens. You aren't. She'll try to manipulate you into feeling like you are, and your social circle might even side with her before anyone stands up for you. Regardless, you are responsible for your own life, and you have to fight for yourself—whether it's against your mother, your spouse, your kids, or your friends.
Protect yourself. It's your fundamental right, even if everyone tries to convince you otherwise.

I don't know where she lives or how much protection the local system provides (usually not much), but there are shelters, counselors, the police, and social services. Try to solve the issue through those channels instead. The most important thing is to stay firm and clear about your boundaries so she knows she isn't getting anything from you anymore.
Jonathan Howard Jonathan Howard Member
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#6 ·
Lyte-as-a-rock said:Honestly, there might be a tiny part of her mind thinking, "Yeah, you got what was coming to you,"
because deep down, it feels like some kind of cosmic justice.

Maybe she told him to hit her with a ruler just so she’d have an excuse to come running to you, eventually bringing him along too.🤣

You know how they say you help someone who looks "pitiful" only to end up hurting yourself and looking like a fool?🤣

Saying something like that to someone dealing with something as heavy as guilt over a parent is honestly bottom-of-the-barrel behavior.👎
Jonathan Ramirez5 Jonathan Ramirez5 Newcomer
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#7 ·
Look, I’m sorry, but playing the "what if" game with all those different scenarios is just going to make this whole mess even more chaotic than it already is.
The only real advice I can give you is to be brutally honest with yourself about what you actually have the capacity for right now.
There are plenty of institutions and nonprofits out there where you can provide support without getting your hands dirty or getting sucked into the drama—you can still satisfy that urge to take action without making it personal. It takes effort, sure, and whether you can swing that effort right now is up to you; getting emotionally entangled won't change the reality of your situation one bit. If you're feeling sympathy, try channeling it into actual movement instead of just feeling bad. That way, you avoid being manipulated. As for whether your mother will ever truly get it, given her tendency toward emotional venting (if I'm reading the situation right), that's her issue, not yours. It doesn't change the dilemma you're facing.
Nancy Morris5 Nancy Morris5 Member
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#8 ·
Don't even sweat her. Bullies and thugs usually end up getting exactly what's coming to them eventually.☕
crimsoncanyon2 crimsoncanyon2 Active Member
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#9 ·
Austin Garcia3 said:So, I’m dealing with some heavy stuff involving my mom—she’s been physically and emotionally abusive toward me my entire life.
We don't live together, and I still make visits every now and then. I’ve finally managed to reach this super fragile kind of balance where I just dodge any serious topics to keep the peace, but we still have a relationship. The real issue is that the fighting between her and my stepfather has escalated into physical violence. Honestly, she’s usually the one instigating it more than he is, but since he’s physically stronger, he ends up being the one blamed for everything.
The other day, she sent me a photo of her forehead—there was this huge injury covering half her face that could only have come from a direct hit. Then, she claimed it was just a "rash"?! But right after that, she sends another message showing a massive bruise on her arm. It’s pretty obvious she’s crying out for help, even if she won't say it directly.
I’ve thought about asking her to come stay with me for a bit, but I know that would just open the door for her to abuse me again—and let's be real, she wouldn't even be grateful. She’d probably just take her frustrations out on me. I really don't feel like she deserves me to sacrifice myself like that. I’m in a really vulnerable spot right now with a ton of responsibilities, and I know she’d mentally drain me to the point where I'd lose focus on my work. I’ve already missed out on way too many opportunities because of her outbursts, which always leave me spiraling into depression for months at a time.
Still, I can't shake this feeling that I'm a bad person if I don't step in. I'm even terrified that something might happen to her—like, maybe an accident, like she trips down the stairs.
I'm open to any thoughts or advice you guys might have.

It really depends on how old they are.
If they're physically helpless and elderly—someone at high risk of becoming a victim because they have zero options,
then maybe.
But if we're talking about someone choosing their own life circumstances, like in your situation, I have to be honest: I wouldn't care.
Actually, there might be a tiny, dark corner of my brain thinking, "You get exactly what you deserve. Serves you right 🙂 🙂,"
because in a way, it feels like cosmic justice.

Look, I'm just a human being—not an angel.😁

Austin Garcia3 said:So, I’m dealing with some heavy stuff involving my mom—she’s been physically and emotionally abusive toward me my entire life.
We don't live together, and I still make visits every now and then. I’ve finally managed to reach this super fragile kind of balance where I just dodge any serious topics to keep the peace, but we still have a relationship. The real issue is that the fighting between her and my stepfather has escalated into physical violence. Honestly, she’s usually the one instigating it more than he is, but since he’s physically stronger, he ends up being the one blamed for everything.
The other day, she sent me a photo of her forehead—there was this huge injury covering half her face that could only have come from a direct hit. Then, she claimed it was just a "rash"?! But right after that, she sends another message showing a massive bruise on her arm. It’s pretty obvious she’s crying out for help, even if she won't say it directly.
I’ve thought about asking her to come stay with me for a bit, but I know that would just open the door for her to abuse me again—and let's be real, she wouldn't even be grateful. She’d probably just take her frustrations out on me. I really don't feel like she deserves me to sacrifice myself like that. I’m in a really vulnerable spot right now with a ton of responsibilities, and I know she’d mentally drain me to the point where I'd lose focus on my work. I’ve already missed out on way too many opportunities because of her outbursts, which always leave me spiraling into depression for months at a time.
Still, I can't shake this feeling that I'm a bad person if I don't step in. I'm even terrified that something might happen to her—like, maybe an accident, like she trips down the stairs.
I'm open to any thoughts or advice you guys might have.

And what are you, by any chance—a GP, a cop, a lawyer, a coordinator for a Women's House, Child Protective Services, or Catholic Charities? 🤔
Austin Garcia3 said:So, I’m dealing with some heavy stuff involving my mom—she’s been physically and emotionally abusive toward me my entire life.
We don't live together, and I still make visits every now and then. I’ve finally managed to reach this super fragile kind of balance where I just dodge any serious topics to keep the peace, but we still have a relationship. The real issue is that the fighting between her and my stepfather has escalated into physical violence. Honestly, she’s usually the one instigating it more than he is, but since he’s physically stronger, he ends up being the one blamed for everything.
The other day, she sent me a photo of her forehead—there was this huge injury covering half her face that could only have come from a direct hit. Then, she claimed it was just a "rash"?! But right after that, she sends another message showing a massive bruise on her arm. It’s pretty obvious she’s crying out for help, even if she won't say it directly.
I’ve thought about asking her to come stay with me for a bit, but I know that would just open the door for her to abuse me again—and let's be real, she wouldn't even be grateful. She’d probably just take her frustrations out on me. I really don't feel like she deserves me to sacrifice myself like that. I’m in a really vulnerable spot right now with a ton of responsibilities, and I know she’d mentally drain me to the point where I'd lose focus on my work. I’ve already missed out on way too many opportunities because of her outbursts, which always leave me spiraling into depression for months at a time.
Still, I can't shake this feeling that I'm a bad person if I don't step in. I'm even terrified that something might happen to her—like, maybe an accident, like she trips down the stairs.
I'm open to any thoughts or advice you guys might have.

There was a guy in my neighborhood who beat a woman; she went to her family doctor with obvious injuries, all the authorities were called, and he just got six months probation since it was his first offense.
Your mother clearly isn't some frail, tiny old lady with a cane; she's probably just a manipulator who can be handled with a few pointed questions.
Besides, you didn't pick her partner for her, nor did you force him on her, so what does any of this actually have to do with you 🤷?
Unless you happen to be one of those professionals I mentioned earlier—you definitely aren't a local registrar or anything.

Just point her toward the right resources and wash your hands of the whole thing.
Austin Garcia3 said:So, I’m dealing with some heavy stuff involving my mom—she’s been physically and emotionally abusive toward me my entire life.
We don't live together, and I still make visits every now and then. I’ve finally managed to reach this super fragile kind of balance where I just dodge any serious topics to keep the peace, but we still have a relationship. The real issue is that the fighting between her and my stepfather has escalated into physical violence. Honestly, she’s usually the one instigating it more than he is, but since he’s physically stronger, he ends up being the one blamed for everything.
The other day, she sent me a photo of her forehead—there was this huge injury covering half her face that could only have come from a direct hit. Then, she claimed it was just a "rash"?! But right after that, she sends another message showing a massive bruise on her arm. It’s pretty obvious she’s crying out for help, even if she won't say it directly.
I’ve thought about asking her to come stay with me for a bit, but I know that would just open the door for her to abuse me again—and let's be real, she wouldn't even be grateful. She’d probably just take her frustrations out on me. I really don't feel like she deserves me to sacrifice myself like that. I’m in a really vulnerable spot right now with a ton of responsibilities, and I know she’d mentally drain me to the point where I'd lose focus on my work. I’ve already missed out on way too many opportunities because of her outbursts, which always leave me spiraling into depression for months at a time.
Still, I can't shake this feeling that I'm a bad person if I don't step in. I'm even terrified that something might happen to her—like, maybe an accident, like she trips down the stairs.
I'm open to any thoughts or advice you guys might have.

Maybe she mentioned getting hit with a ruler just to bait you into coming over, so she can eventually drag him along too.🤣

You know the saying: helping someone who acts like a victim usually ends up being your own undoing and embarrassment.🤣

Helping your mom wouldn't actually help her, because frankly, she lacks the basic character traits that make someone worth supporting—like, say, not putting themselves at risk just to play the martyr for someone who might actually deserve the chaos they're receiving, or worse, someone who might turn that chaos onto others. Sorry, but no thanks.
Normal people ask for help from those they've actually treated well, not from the people they've spent their lives hurting or manipulating.

Jonathan Howard said:Exactly.

@Austin Garcia3; if you let her manipulate you now, you’re basically signing up to be her emotional punching bag for the rest of her life. I know that guilt is eating you alive—believe me, I get it—but
read this slowly
there is a massive gap between the person who spends their whole life being a doormat, constantly catering to everyone else (mom, spouse, kids, friends) only to end up miserable, lonely, and unappreciated
and
the person who respects themselves enough to act in their own best interest, while still being capable of giving plenty, but knowing exactly when to say no
the difference is that a healthy, successful adult doesn't take any crap.

Your mother is still playing you, and she always will, by pulling the sympathy card. She didn't just sit you down and say, "Look, we haven't seen eye to eye for years, but I really need your help." Instead, she's showing you bruises through subtext and acting helpless, waiting for you to jump in because that's the pattern she's used to. And once you try to break that cycle by offering help on your own terms, people like that will turn it around on you. They'll play the martyr, saying stuff like, "Oh no, don't worry about me, just take care of yourself," making everyone feel sorry for them while they continue to walk all over you.

She probably isn't even aware she's a bad parent or how much her behavior impacts you. Honestly, she likely never will be. Don't waste your energy trying to connect or explain things to her—that's a dead end. If you keep trying, you'll just spiral into depressions that no one else can pull you out of.
Just because she doesn't realize what she's doing doesn't give you permission to remain her servant, even if she is your parent. In fact, that's exactly why you have to set the boundary.

You need to get your head straight. If something happens to her, you aren't obligated to hover over her constantly, especially since she isn't disabled. Your mother is responsible for her own life, regardless of what happens. You aren't. She'll try to manipulate you into feeling like you are, and your social circle might even side with her before anyone stands up for you. Regardless, you are responsible for your own life, and you have to fight for yourself—whether it's against your mother, your spouse, your kids, or your friends.
Protect yourself. It's your fundamental right, even if everyone tries to convince you otherwise.

I don't know where she lives or how much protection the local system provides (usually not much), but there are shelters, counselors, the police, and social services. Try to solve the issue through those channels instead. The most important thing is to stay firm and clear about your boundaries so she knows she isn't getting anything from you anymore.

Exactly.
People on the outside can't objectively see the dynamic between your mother and you. From their perspective, she's the saint and you're the villain because you refuse to indulge her manipulations by "helping" her bruised arm. You need to do what's right and stop looking for external validation. Doing the right thing and being fair should always carry more weight than emotional manipulation.

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Jonathan Howard said:Exactly.

@Austin Garcia3; if you let her manipulate you now, you’re basically signing up to be her emotional punching bag for the rest of her life. I know that guilt is eating you alive—believe me, I get it—but
read this slowly
there is a massive gap between the person who spends their whole life being a doormat, constantly catering to everyone else (mom, spouse, kids, friends) only to end up miserable, lonely, and unappreciated
and
the person who respects themselves enough to act in their own best interest, while still being capable of giving plenty, but knowing exactly when to say no
the difference is that a healthy, successful adult doesn't take any crap.

Your mother is still playing you, and she always will, by pulling the sympathy card. She didn't just sit you down and say, "Look, we haven't seen eye to eye for years, but I really need your help." Instead, she's showing you bruises through subtext and acting helpless, waiting for you to jump in because that's the pattern she's used to. And once you try to break that cycle by offering help on your own terms, people like that will turn it around on you. They'll play the martyr, saying stuff like, "Oh no, don't worry about me, just take care of yourself," making everyone feel sorry for them while they continue to walk all over you.

She probably isn't even aware she's a bad parent or how much her behavior impacts you. Honestly, she likely never will be. Don't waste your energy trying to connect or explain things to her—that's a dead end. If you keep trying, you'll just spiral into depressions that no one else can pull you out of.
Just because she doesn't realize what she's doing doesn't give you permission to remain her servant, even if she is your parent. In fact, that's exactly why you have to set the boundary.

You need to get your head straight. If something happens to her, you aren't obligated to hover over her constantly, especially since she isn't disabled. Your mother is responsible for her own life, regardless of what happens. You aren't. She'll try to manipulate you into feeling like you are, and your social circle might even side with her before anyone stands up for you. Regardless, you are responsible for your own life, and you have to fight for yourself—whether it's against your mother, your spouse, your kids, or your friends.
Protect yourself. It's your fundamental right, even if everyone tries to convince you otherwise.

I don't know where she lives or how much protection the local system provides (usually not much), but there are shelters, counselors, the police, and social services. Try to solve the issue through those channels instead. The most important thing is to stay firm and clear about your boundaries so she knows she isn't getting anything from you anymore.

Sometimes, the most effective way to actually be helpful is to stop spinning your wheels and direct all that energy toward the people who truly have the power to make a difference.
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Jonathan Ramirez5 said:Look, I’m sorry, but playing the "what if" game with all those different scenarios is just going to make this whole mess even more chaotic than it already is.
The only real advice I can give you is to be brutally honest with yourself about what you actually have the capacity for right now.
There are plenty of institutions and nonprofits out there where you can provide support without getting your hands dirty or getting sucked into the drama—you can still satisfy that urge to take action without making it personal. It takes effort, sure, and whether you can swing that effort right now is up to you; getting emotionally entangled won't change the reality of your situation one bit. If you're feeling sympathy, try channeling it into actual movement instead of just feeling bad. That way, you avoid being manipulated. As for whether your mother will ever truly get it, given her tendency toward emotional venting (if I'm reading the situation right), that's her issue, not yours. It doesn't change the dilemma you're facing.

If her mother actually wanted results—I mean real, concrete solutions to this problem instead of just playing these transparent little manipulation games—she’d stop stalling and go straight to the authorities or contact an official agency herself.
Look, we're living in the 21st century—people have televisions now. It’s not like we’re all intellectually stunted or still living in caves.
Manipulation—honestly, even if you just catch a faint whiff of it, you have to shut it down immediately. No hesitation, no playing nice. Just shut it down.

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Jonathan Howard said:Saying something like that to someone dealing with something as heavy as guilt over a parent is honestly bottom-of-the-barrel behavior.👎

Look, I’m just being straight with you. And honestly? I couldn't live with myself if I didn't act on what's clearly right—the stuff that serves the greater good—instead of doing what's wrong, especially when it ends up hurting even a single person.
That isn't even a definition of DNA—it’s just a reflection of someone's own common sense and intelligence.

By cold-bloodedly directing her mother toward the right authorities, you're essentially creating this atmosphere that benefits everyone—well, everyone except for this little stepson. But honestly? His loss and the damage he’s causing just cancel each other out in the end. It all nets out to zero. In short: everybody wins, and he just ends up being a non-factor.
So, here’s the thing—if she makes decisions based on nothing but faulty emotions, potentially leading to her mother moving in, she’s basically just handing herself over to be mistreated. Meanwhile, the mother ends up with nothing but a terrible experience, and the actual troublemaker? They walk away completely scot-free. It's a total lose-lose situation where the wrong person gets off easy.

What a joke—all this pathetic emotional posturing and fake guilt!
Look, it’s simple math—right is right, and wrong is wrong. If something is incorrect and useless, then it’s just plain wrong. There’s absolutely no reason to waste time debating it, acting on it, or giving it a single second of thought. Period. ☕
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To me, this whole situation feels like some godforsaken backwater town out in the middle of nowhere—the kind of place where former foster caregivers would chase kids around a farmyard with pitchforks and garden tools.
Even a kid standing on the sidelines watching this unfold needs to step back and ask if it’s actually worth it—is it even sane—to try and save the weaker of the two? If you jump in to protect the underdog just so the stronger one wins, you’re basically handing yourself a front-row seat to a disaster. You're just setting yourself up to get blindsided later when that "weaker" individual—who’s still mentally more volatile than you are—decides to come after you with a pitchfork or a sledgehammer. It's a losing game.
I mean, seriously, is there anyone left with a shred of common sense who would actually sit there and judge people based on their feelings? And I’m using the word NORMAL very intentionally here.
Zachary Stewart2 Zachary Stewart2 Member
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#10 ·
Honestly, I wouldn't. I actually turned down helping this one relative on my dad's side after he spent so much time mentally messing with me—and then, a few months later, he was gone. My mom’s side of the family tried to guilt-trip me into stepping up because he was sick, but I just didn't do it. I helped out where I absolutely had to, and that was it. Why should I go out of my way for someone who doesn't appreciate it and just calls me lazy? Am I feeling guilty now? Do I wish I'd done more? Maybe, maybe not... honestly, it just depends on my mood. At the end of the day, deciding how to help family is a personal call, and nobody else gets to judge that. He never even wrote a will, so he left nothing behind after he passed—so yeah, you can probably guess who we're talking about here. Even if I had been some kind of saint to him, it wouldn't have changed the fact that he left nothing. It's the same story with my paternal grandmother; I helped her and stayed by her side my whole life, but she did the exact same thing. These people caused so much damage and created such a massive mess that it basically tore the whole family apart. Now, we don't talk and we definitely don't trust each other.
Kevin Bailey2 Kevin Bailey2 Regular
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#11 ·
Austin Garcia3 said:So, I’m dealing with some heavy stuff involving my mom—she’s been physically and emotionally abusive toward me my entire life.
We don't live together, and I still make visits every now and then. I’ve finally managed to reach this super fragile kind of balance where I just dodge any serious topics to keep the peace, but we still have a relationship. The real issue is that the fighting between her and my stepfather has escalated into physical violence. Honestly, she’s usually the one instigating it more than he is, but since he’s physically stronger, he ends up being the one blamed for everything.
The other day, she sent me a photo of her forehead—there was this huge injury covering half her face that could only have come from a direct hit. Then, she claimed it was just a "rash"?! But right after that, she sends another message showing a massive bruise on her arm. It’s pretty obvious she’s crying out for help, even if she won't say it directly.
I’ve thought about asking her to come stay with me for a bit, but I know that would just open the door for her to abuse me again—and let's be real, she wouldn't even be grateful. She’d probably just take her frustrations out on me. I really don't feel like she deserves me to sacrifice myself like that. I’m in a really vulnerable spot right now with a ton of responsibilities, and I know she’d mentally drain me to the point where I'd lose focus on my work. I’ve already missed out on way too many opportunities because of her outbursts, which always leave me spiraling into depression for months at a time.
Still, I can't shake this feeling that I'm a bad person if I don't step in. I'm even terrified that something might happen to her—like, maybe an accident, like she trips down the stairs.
I'm open to any thoughts or advice you guys might have.

Look, these are two different issues here.
First off, there's the question: "Would you help someone who abused you in the past?" If that stuff is truly in the past, then fine. You hurt me once. It's over.
Yeah, I'd help them.

The second issue is that your mother is *still* subtly abusing you. She plays the victim constantly and uses guilt to manipulate you in every way possible. It’s exhausting. But she’s your mother, and walking away is incredibly hard. You need to gauge how much strength you actually have left to deal with her current mess. Can you look at this objectively and help her... without letting your own emotions get dragged into the mud?
If her situation—which she clearly has no interest in fixing—is hitting you this hard, causing you to spiral into depression and all that... honestly... sorry... but... just walk away. If you can, do it.
Aaron Allen5 Aaron Allen5 Member
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joined Jul 2013
#12 ·
I’ve actually stepped in to help out in a very similar situation before, and believe me, some couples manage to stay together while I ended up looking like the complete fool!

Regarding the member who started this thread... my firm belief is that a parent should act like a parent. A child should be able to lean on their parents for support, rather than having the children serve as the emotional pillars for the adults. My sincere advice to you is to maintain a healthy distance until your mother decides to take the first step herself. If you attempt to intervene without her consent, no matter how well-intentioned you are, you will inevitably end up being cast as the villain.
ironrider11 ironrider11 Regular
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#13 ·
Austin Garcia3 said:So, I’m dealing with some heavy stuff involving my mom—she’s been physically and emotionally abusive toward me my entire life.
We don't live together, and I still make visits every now and then. I’ve finally managed to reach this super fragile kind of balance where I just dodge any serious topics to keep the peace, but we still have a relationship. The real issue is that the fighting between her and my stepfather has escalated into physical violence. Honestly, she’s usually the one instigating it more than he is, but since he’s physically stronger, he ends up being the one blamed for everything.
The other day, she sent me a photo of her forehead—there was this huge injury covering half her face that could only have come from a direct hit. Then, she claimed it was just a "rash"?! But right after that, she sends another message showing a massive bruise on her arm. It’s pretty obvious she’s crying out for help, even if she won't say it directly.
I’ve thought about asking her to come stay with me for a bit, but I know that would just open the door for her to abuse me again—and let's be real, she wouldn't even be grateful. She’d probably just take her frustrations out on me. I really don't feel like she deserves me to sacrifice myself like that. I’m in a really vulnerable spot right now with a ton of responsibilities, and I know she’d mentally drain me to the point where I'd lose focus on my work. I’ve already missed out on way too many opportunities because of her outbursts, which always leave me spiraling into depression for months at a time.
Still, I can't shake this feeling that I'm a bad person if I don't step in. I'm even terrified that something might happen to her—like, maybe an accident, like she trips down the stairs.
I'm open to any thoughts or advice you guys might have.

That whole "blood is thicker than water" thing is total garbage. A father hitting his little girl, or a junkie mother forcing her kid into prostitution just for some quick cash... what does that have to do with family loyalty? Sure, maybe I'm being extreme, but it's easier that way. People use "gray areas" as a buffer to soften the truth. It's either black or white. Small deviations are fine, nobody's perfect... but living your entire life in a gray zone? Using "but" is just a way to manipulate the facts. If you've already found a way to escape the psychological torture—even if it's not clear how exactly she was abusing you—then that's likely the core issue. Why should you feel obligated to wreck your own life for someone who dragged you down and threw you to the bottom? How they treated you defines how you treat them... or it doesn't. You shouldn't have to sacrifice your own peace or your life out of some sense of duty or empathy toward someone like that, regardless of who they are.
Sean Cruz Sean Cruz Regular
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#14 ·
Austin Garcia3 said:So, I’m dealing with some heavy stuff involving my mom—she’s been physically and emotionally abusive toward me my entire life.
We don't live together, and I still make visits every now and then. I’ve finally managed to reach this super fragile kind of balance where I just dodge any serious topics to keep the peace, but we still have a relationship. The real issue is that the fighting between her and my stepfather has escalated into physical violence. Honestly, she’s usually the one instigating it more than he is, but since he’s physically stronger, he ends up being the one blamed for everything.
The other day, she sent me a photo of her forehead—there was this huge injury covering half her face that could only have come from a direct hit. Then, she claimed it was just a "rash"?! But right after that, she sends another message showing a massive bruise on her arm. It’s pretty obvious she’s crying out for help, even if she won't say it directly.
I’ve thought about asking her to come stay with me for a bit, but I know that would just open the door for her to abuse me again—and let's be real, she wouldn't even be grateful. She’d probably just take her frustrations out on me. I really don't feel like she deserves me to sacrifice myself like that. I’m in a really vulnerable spot right now with a ton of responsibilities, and I know she’d mentally drain me to the point where I'd lose focus on my work. I’ve already missed out on way too many opportunities because of her outbursts, which always leave me spiraling into depression for months at a time.
Still, I can't shake this feeling that I'm a bad person if I don't step in. I'm even terrified that something might happen to her—like, maybe an accident, like she trips down the stairs.
I'm open to any thoughts or advice you guys might have.

Help her, but not by letting her move in with you. Based on what you've described, she is still trying to manipulate you by playing the victim card.

Try to find another way to support her without exposing yourself to her potential abuse.
crimsoncanyon2 crimsoncanyon2 Active Member
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#15 ·
The exact same logic should apply here.
ironrider11 said:That whole "blood is thicker than water" thing is total garbage. A father hitting his little girl, or a junkie mother forcing her kid into prostitution just for some quick cash... what does that have to do with family loyalty? Sure, maybe I'm being extreme, but it's easier that way. People use "gray areas" as a buffer to soften the truth. It's either black or white. Small deviations are fine, nobody's perfect... but living your entire life in a gray zone? Using "but" is just a way to manipulate the facts. If you've already found a way to escape the psychological torture—even if it's not clear how exactly she was abusing you—then that's likely the core issue. Why should you feel obligated to wreck your own life for someone who dragged you down and threw you to the bottom? How they treated you defines how you treat them... or it doesn't. You shouldn't have to sacrifice your own peace or your life out of some sense of duty or empathy toward someone like that, regardless of who they are.

Just because someone happens to be your mother doesn't automatically make them a good parent—or even someone who actually wanted to step up for you.
And honestly? Just because a parent puts food on the table doesn't mean they're doing it out of pure love; half the time, they're just following a sense of civic duty or trying to live up to whatever moral standards society expects from them.
Aaron Allen5 Aaron Allen5 Member
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joined Jul 2013
#16 ·
People like that generally have zero interest in actually seeking professional guidance! That’s precisely why I maintain that you should just say no until she decides to pursue expert help on her own terms, rather than letting her manipulate you!
Henry Lopez13 Henry Lopez13 Member
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#17 ·
Nancy Morris5 said:Don't even sweat her. Bullies and thugs usually end up getting exactly what's coming to them eventually.☕

Signed.
Austin Garcia3 Austin Garcia3 NewcomerOP
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#18 ·
Thanks everyone, you guys have been such a huge help!
I already knew deep down that I shouldn't stick my neck out—especially since she isn't even remotely ready for an honest conversation. And honestly? She’d need to at least own up to her own mistakes before anyone should be jumping in to play the martyr for her.
I can already see how it would go... in a fit of rage, she’d probably wreck half the house and then just retreat back to an environment where that kind of behavior is totally normalized.
The thing is, she's dealing with some massive issues, but she's never once stepped foot in a therapist's office. Ever since I was little, her behavior has always been excused by people saying she just "has thin skin"—which is basically our family way of sweeping everything under the rug. For a while, I actually thought maybe I could be the one to talk sense into her and get her to go to counseling. But the answer is always the same: "You just have to love me for who I am." So yeah, there's no doubt about it—she expects me to just sacrifice my entire life for her sake. And I'm just not doing that.
The rest of the family—my grandma and her mom, mostly—isn't helping one bit. If anything, they make it worse. Plus, my friends don't really know how bad things actually are, so I haven't felt comfortable opening up to them. That's why I wanted to say thanks again to all of you for taking the time to reply and for giving me the courage to stay out of it.
Sean Cruz Sean Cruz Regular
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#19 ·
Austin Garcia3 said:Thanks everyone, you guys have been such a huge help!
I already knew deep down that I shouldn't stick my neck out—especially since she isn't even remotely ready for an honest conversation. And honestly? She’d need to at least own up to her own mistakes before anyone should be jumping in to play the martyr for her.
I can already see how it would go... in a fit of rage, she’d probably wreck half the house and then just retreat back to an environment where that kind of behavior is totally normalized.
The thing is, she's dealing with some massive issues, but she's never once stepped foot in a therapist's office. Ever since I was little, her behavior has always been excused by people saying she just "has thin skin"—which is basically our family way of sweeping everything under the rug. For a while, I actually thought maybe I could be the one to talk sense into her and get her to go to counseling. But the answer is always the same: "You just have to love me for who I am." So yeah, there's no doubt about it—she expects me to just sacrifice my entire life for her sake. And I'm just not doing that.
The rest of the family—my grandma and her mom, mostly—isn't helping one bit. If anything, they make it worse. Plus, my friends don't really know how bad things actually are, so I haven't felt comfortable opening up to them. That's why I wanted to say thanks again to all of you for taking the time to reply and for giving me the courage to stay out of it.

Reading those parts of your story was heavy enough, and I can only imagine what you've actually endured. 😢

I also want to touch on that "you have to love her as she is" sentiment. No, you don't. Being your biological mother doesn't give her a free pass to act this way, especially when she's dealing with mental health issues and refusing treatment. Some people with mental illness can be incredibly manipulative, using their condition to weaponize guilt against everyone else. I think you're thinking very clearly and refusing to let yourself be broken. Of course, she is still your mother, and if she truly needs help, you should support her—just not at the expense of destroying your own life.
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#20 ·
Look, forgiveness only actually works if the person who screwed you over genuinely feels like garbage about it and finally realizes they were dead wrong.

But let’s be real—that almost never happens in the real world, so why even bother wasting your energy on forgiving them? ☕

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