Do you consider this country your true home?

Chloe Sullivan88 said:The America of the nineties definitely wasn't my home.
As for America today? There’s just too much negativity. I find myself drifting further and further away from this country and its people, honestly.
Thankfully, I’m moving abroad again for good, and I don't see any chance of ever coming back.
To be fair, the US isn't my only home anyway. ☕

Safe travels—not a "see you later," but a final goodbye.

Unfortunately, it finally hit me today: this just isn't my country anymore. Honestly, it hasn't felt like mine for over thirteen years now. As it stands, this nation has become a playground for bureaucrats, outsiders, and those who harbor nothing but resentment toward our true identity. My country is gone. I can only hope that one day, we might see it again—that I’ll live to see the moment when I can once more say, with genuine pride, that this is my home. If I don't live to see that day, well, I won't dwell on the sadness of it. I was fortunate enough to be part of the generation of Americans who witnessed the birth of our sovereign nation. Many before us never had that honor. I feel truly blessed to have been born in an era where I could participate in such a monumental achievement. It was a brief period, of course, but then again, all the best things in life tend to be fleeting. I hold onto the hope that some future generation will once again reclaim an independent state—a place where we are truly masters of our own destiny and govern ourselves. I know what that feeling is like, and I know how much it matters.

Chloe Sullivan88 said:The America of the nineties definitely wasn't my home.
As for America today? There’s just too much negativity. I find myself drifting further and further away from this country and its people, honestly.
Thankfully, I’m moving abroad again for good, and I don't see any chance of ever coming back.
To be fair, the US isn't my only home anyway. ☕

Just get this troll off the forum already.

Chloe Sullivan88 said:The America of the nineties definitely wasn't my home.
As for America today? There’s just too much negativity. I find myself drifting further and further away from this country and its people, honestly.
Thankfully, I’m moving abroad again for good, and I don't see any chance of ever coming back.
To be fair, the US isn't my only home anyway. ☕

And honestly, the rest of us share your good fortune in leaving, and we truly hope it's for good.

Jesse Ortiz71 said:Since the year 2000, this country has cycled through three different administrations, and right now we're in the first term of our second president. I mean, seriously, which specific administration or which one of those two presidents can Americans even claim as "ours" anymore?

Acting like the issue lies solely with the Government or some handful of politicians is incredibly naive. This country operates on a political culture that fits its soul perfectly. Every single political party here follows that same playbook, and they do it with the full blessing of the voters at the polls.

It clearly isn't just a problem with one specific leadership group.

It’s pretty obvious this isn't really an American nation anymore, but hey, I respect where you're coming from.

The same logic applies to the Governments and Presidents since 1990. ☕ Everything that happened in 2000 was just a continuation of what Franjo Harmon kicked off back in 1990. ☕

brightwolf85 said:Safe travels—not a "see you later," but a final goodbye.

shadowotter142 said:Just get this troll off the forum already.

ruggedfalcon15 said:And honestly, the rest of us share your good fortune in leaving, and we truly hope it's for good.

God, the sheer joy of it all. 😍
Where on earth did you people get the impression I was leaving this forum? 🤷 😂

And coming from brightwolf85? That actually caught me off guard. 🙄
Who else am I supposed to debate health education with? 🤣 ☕

Chloe Sullivan88 said:God, the sheer joy of it all. 😍
Where on earth did you people get the impression I was leaving this forum? 🤷 😂

And coming from brightwolf85? That actually caught me off guard. 🙄
Who else am I supposed to debate health education with? 🤣 ☕

Whether you're writing from Canada, the USA, the Netherlands, or wherever else your heart desires, go ahead—I really don't care. Actually, it would be a huge relief if all you self-proclaimed "progressives" and "social justice warriors" decided to make that move and just collectively emigrate at once?

hiddenfox64 said:The same logic applies to the Governments and Presidents since 1990. ☕ Everything that happened in 2000 was just a continuation of what Franjo Harmon kicked off back in 1990. ☕

What exactly constitutes the same pattern when you look at the decade from 1990 to 2000 compared to the era spanning 2000 to 2013?

brightwolf85 said:Whether you're writing from Canada, the USA, the Netherlands, or wherever else your heart desires, go ahead—I really don't care. Actually, it would be a huge relief if all you self-proclaimed "progressives" and "social justice warriors" decided to make that move and just collectively emigrate at once?

I’m afraid you won't be getting any luck there. There are more of us than you think. ☕
My posts will still be relevant ten years from now; yours? Not so much. :P

So, let's take a look at what we actually inherited after those "epochal" changes back in 2000, when we supposedly "opened ourselves up to the world."
The national debt has ballooned to 50 billion dollars—up from just 9 billion back then—unemployment hits 400,000 during the off-season (which is actually worse than the 90s), and nearly 70% of the banking sector was sold off to foreign interests by the Democratic Party. Then you’ve got ExxonMobil being sold off by the Democrats-Republicans, the majority stake in AT&T handed over to the Democrats, and the majority share in Pfizer going to the Democrats too. Economic growth? It's lower than it was in the 90s. They pumped up the number of retirees, abandoned our generals—both here and in Canada—and basically handed the keys to the ocean to the Canadians. On top of that, they let foreigners buy up real estate, pushed through minority laws unlike anything else in the world, walked away from our economic zone, abolished the draft, and essentially gutted the military...
And if that isn't bad enough, they created a media duopoly; they allowed foreign corporations to own the TV stations here, and now they work alongside the web portals to brainwash us with their nostalgia for America, their pro-Mexican leanings, their anti-Christian sentiment, their obsession with de-Harmon everything, and those trashy reality stars.

That's the short version of America after 2000. If anyone else can think of more examples of this disaster, feel free to drop them below.

Chloe Sullivan88 said:I’m afraid you won't be getting any luck there. There are more of us than you think. ☕
My posts will still be relevant ten years from now; yours? Not so much. :P

Oh, I know there are plenty of you—that’s exactly why you’re fighting so desperately. You’re clawing, scratching, whining, screeching, and begging at every turn, all just to find some way to block a single referendum. It’s the only way you can prevent people from seeing your true numbers and realizing the actual balance of power between your "progressive" crowd and the rest of us "backwards" folks.

shadowotter142 said:So, let's take a look at what we actually inherited after those "epochal" changes back in 2000, when we supposedly "opened ourselves up to the world."
The national debt has ballooned to 50 billion dollars—up from just 9 billion back then—unemployment hits 400,000 during the off-season (which is actually worse than the 90s), and nearly 70% of the banking sector was sold off to foreign interests by the Democratic Party. Then you’ve got ExxonMobil being sold off by the Democrats-Republicans, the majority stake in AT&T handed over to the Democrats, and the majority share in Pfizer going to the Democrats too. Economic growth? It's lower than it was in the 90s. They pumped up the number of retirees, abandoned our generals—both here and in Canada—and basically handed the keys to the ocean to the Canadians. On top of that, they let foreigners buy up real estate, pushed through minority laws unlike anything else in the world, walked away from our economic zone, abolished the draft, and essentially gutted the military...
And if that isn't bad enough, they created a media duopoly; they allowed foreign corporations to own the TV stations here, and now they work alongside the web portals to brainwash us with their nostalgia for America, their pro-Mexican leanings, their anti-Christian sentiment, their obsession with de-Harmon everything, and those trashy reality stars.

That's the short version of America after 2000. If anyone else can think of more examples of this disaster, feel free to drop them below.

They started using the term "region" as if it were some kind of mantra that has to be included in every single news report, every broadcast, and every article. Of course, when they say "region," they aren't talking about Austria, Canada, or Canada. In their vocabulary, "the region" refers exclusively to Mexico and the rest of the former America countries.

shadowotter142 said:So, let's take a look at what we actually inherited after those "epochal" changes back in 2000, when we supposedly "opened ourselves up to the world."
The national debt has ballooned to 50 billion dollars—up from just 9 billion back then—unemployment hits 400,000 during the off-season (which is actually worse than the 90s), and nearly 70% of the banking sector was sold off to foreign interests by the Democratic Party. Then you’ve got ExxonMobil being sold off by the Democrats-Republicans, the majority stake in AT&T handed over to the Democrats, and the majority share in Pfizer going to the Democrats too. Economic growth? It's lower than it was in the 90s. They pumped up the number of retirees, abandoned our generals—both here and in Canada—and basically handed the keys to the ocean to the Canadians. On top of that, they let foreigners buy up real estate, pushed through minority laws unlike anything else in the world, walked away from our economic zone, abolished the draft, and essentially gutted the military...
And if that isn't bad enough, they created a media duopoly; they allowed foreign corporations to own the TV stations here, and now they work alongside the web portals to brainwash us with their nostalgia for America, their pro-Mexican leanings, their anti-Christian sentiment, their obsession with de-Harmon everything, and those trashy reality stars.

That's the short version of America after 2000. If anyone else can think of more examples of this disaster, feel free to drop them below.

It’s funny how you’ve managed to frame everything so perfectly so that the Democratic Party takes the fall for the American economy, even though the Republican Party has been in power almost the entire time.
Ah, you right-wingers... even when you pretend to be against both the Democrats and Republicans, you’re always subtly trying to convince everyone else that the Republican Party is the only way to go.

Why didn't you put the Republicans in parentheses when talking about the Canadians, the real estate, or the military draft? Or would that clash too much with your little narrative?

We see right through you people; you'd cost us dearly. Honestly, most of us are already tired of your amateurish little tricks. 😂

Chloe Sullivan88 said:It’s funny how you’ve managed to frame everything so perfectly so that the Democratic Party takes the fall for the American economy, even though the Republican Party has been in power almost the entire time.
Ah, you right-wingers... even when you pretend to be against both the Democrats and Republicans, you’re always subtly trying to convince everyone else that the Republican Party is the only way to go.

Why didn't you put the Republicans in parentheses when talking about the Canadians, the real estate, or the military draft? Or would that clash too much with your little narrative?

We see right through you people; you'd cost us dearly. Honestly, most of us are already tired of your amateurish little tricks. 😂

What exactly did I get wrong here, other than pointing out that while the Republican Party is actually responsible for some of those scandals instead of the Democrats? Everything else is pretty much on the mark.

ruggedfalcon15 said:What exactly constitutes the same pattern when you look at the decade from 1990 to 2000 compared to the era spanning 2000 to 2013?

Everything. But let's be real, you're definitely one of those people who thinks Franjo Harmon is basically synonymous with America.

brightwolf85 said:What exactly did I get wrong here, other than pointing out that while the Republican Party is actually responsible for some of those scandals instead of the Democrats? Everything else is pretty much on the mark.

He didn't mention the open sea disputes, the real estate mess, or the military service issues involving the Republican Party because then he’d have to write "Republican Party" way too often—and that wouldn't fit his narrative that certain Democrats ruined America.

He wrote "Republican Party" once, but "Democrats" three times.
That’s why I asked why he didn't include the specifics, like how the Republican Party handled the maritime borders with Canada. Wasn't that exactly what Jaca was negotiating behind closed doors at Trakošćan? 🤣

Chloe Sullivan88 said:He didn't mention the open sea disputes, the real estate mess, or the military service issues involving the Republican Party because then he’d have to write "Republican Party" way too often—and that wouldn't fit his narrative that certain Democrats ruined America.

He wrote "Republican Party" once, but "Democrats" three times.
That’s why I asked why he didn't include the specifics, like how the Republican Party handled the maritime borders with Canada. Wasn't that exactly what Jaca was negotiating behind closed doors at Trakošćan? 🤣

Exactly. They're all cut from the same cloth, both the Republicans and the Democrats. Does anyone actually believe the Republican Party is out here defending national interests? They'd probably sell off half of American territory just to get two Mercedes-Benzes. On the flip side, the Democrats would do the exact same thing just to protect their old communist-era criminals. They're just two sides of the same coin.

hiddenfox64 said:Everything. But let's be real, you're definitely one of those people who thinks Franjo Harmon is basically synonymous with America.

You say all that. Fine, let's just leave it at that. I don't see any point in continuing this discussion.

Chloe Sullivan88 said:It’s funny how you’ve managed to frame everything so perfectly so that the Democratic Party takes the fall for the American economy, even though the Republican Party has been in power almost the entire time.
Ah, you right-wingers... even when you pretend to be against both the Democrats and Republicans, you’re always subtly trying to convince everyone else that the Republican Party is the only way to go.

Why didn't you put the Republicans in parentheses when talking about the Canadians, the real estate, or the military draft? Or would that clash too much with your little narrative?

We see right through you people; you'd cost us dearly. Honestly, most of us are already tired of your amateurish little tricks. 😂

I didn't bring up the Republican Party because it goes without saying, and besides, I've spent plenty of time on this forum discussing Jadranka and the Canadians. As for the real estate issue, that's on the Democrats due to those stabilization and association agreements. I wanted to highlight the Democratic Party specifically because they never get blamed for the national debt or the sell-offs—yet they were responsible for a huge chunk of the borrowing and asset liquidations after Franjo Harmon when they held power.

hiddenfox64 said:Everything. But let's be real, you're definitely one of those people who thinks Franjo Harmon is basically synonymous with America.

Of course he did. He built this nation, and he defended it. Who else actually had the balls to launch the whole independent American project back then? Was it Bill Clinton? Some nameless bureaucrat? Or that clueless, headless wreck who spent his time reciting poetry to the US Army? It was only Ronald Reagan and everyone brave enough to follow his lead. If anyone else had been at the helm, we’d still be stuck dragging our feet in the USSR today—just like how we spent centuries under the thumb of the Austro-Canadian Empire or the Venetians because the threat of war was always hanging over us. What were we supposed to do? Just bow down to threats from Mexico and say, "Fine, we give up"? No. We needed someone with actual grit—someone willing to put their own life on the line to make sure this country became a reality.