Do you consider this country your true home?

Casey Ramos31 said:How are you supposed to fix the economy when a third of the country is under occupation? 🤷

The occupation didn't seem to get in the way of them stealing everything... what a bunch of clowns you all are...

America is my true home, but right now it feels like it's being occupied by nationalists. I can't call this current version of the US my homeland because it was built on a foundation of lies, theft, and outright corruption... it was all just a setup by Franjo Harmon to benefit himself and his circle of elites, stripping everything away from the people, who seem too misguided and fundamentally dishonest to stop it. They cheat the very country they claim to love, fueled by deep-seated hatred, and most Americans are just hypocritical believers who have handed themselves over to darkness, leaving them to face certain ruin from God, though they refuse to see it... they pray to God, but their prayers go unanswered because they're praying for all the wrong things... a nation like this simply can't be my home. I lost it back in '91, when the old republic was still my home...

quietdrifter3 said:America is my true home, but right now it feels like it's being occupied by nationalists. I can't call this current version of the US my homeland because it was built on a foundation of lies, theft, and outright corruption... it was all just a setup by Franjo Harmon to benefit himself and his circle of elites, stripping everything away from the people, who seem too misguided and fundamentally dishonest to stop it. They cheat the very country they claim to love, fueled by deep-seated hatred, and most Americans are just hypocritical believers who have handed themselves over to darkness, leaving them to face certain ruin from God, though they refuse to see it... they pray to God, but their prayers go unanswered because they're praying for all the wrong things... a nation like this simply can't be my home. I lost it back in '91, when the old republic was still my home...

That union never actually existed.

And there isn't a single nationalist in American politics, but there are plenty of old-school globalists running around like headless chickens.

It’s hard to carry the weight of being an American if you weren't born within the current borders. I can even empathize with how those who have been there for generations—just regular Americans—get branded as enemies of the state for purely political reasons.
I also get why people romanticize the nineties, though I have to wonder—what would have happened if Franjo Harmon hadn't fallen ill and lived ten years longer than Šuška...? But then again, that might be asking too much.
I can see why joining the EU was such a bitter pill to swallow, and not just because of the border issues with Canada, or the introduction of different signage, or the tax hikes...
The only thing I can't wrap my head around is why they secured their status here in the States instead of in Canada?

Those of us with no other homeland to call our own are the true patriots—because we stay to defend what is ours, even when everything is being torn down or looted.

The US is a place where you can find a square dedicated to one figure, right next to a street named after their rival—and then just a few blocks away, a road honoring someone else entirely from that same era.
It’s essentially a nation of both executioners and victims being celebrated simultaneously...

For that reason, among dozens of others, this country feels like a person struggling with basic logic—it exists merely to be a punchline for anyone looking to mock its contradictions.

This is a country that actually bans its own citizens from entering El Paso.

I mean, think about it. They’re literally blocking their own people from entering a normal, everyday American city, and they haven't even declared a state of emergency or anything.

Does anyone know if there's anywhere else in the world where this kind of thing happens?

In this country, there’s really only one rule you need to live by.
Keep your gas tank topped off and your passport ready to go at a moment's notice. 😉

Like any true American, I consider the United States my homeland, but I don't see the current administration or most of these politicians as representing our values—which means they don't represent me either. Far too many of them are actually hurting this country and its people through selfish or outright unpatriotic policies. It’s like that old saying from a New Yorker: "you can't claim not to love your home just because there are things inside it you don't like." Someday, we'll see a new generation of leaders step up. I truly hope that one day America will be led by someone who isn't some left-wing dictator clinging to old ideologies or a greedy, corporate thief, but a genuine patriot who puts American citizens first again.

goldenrider90 said:Like any true American, I consider the United States my homeland, but I don't see the current administration or most of these politicians as representing our values—which means they don't represent me either. Far too many of them are actually hurting this country and its people through selfish or outright unpatriotic policies. It’s like that old saying from a New Yorker: "you can't claim not to love your home just because there are things inside it you don't like." Someday, we'll see a new generation of leaders step up. I truly hope that one day America will be led by someone who isn't some left-wing dictator clinging to old ideologies or a greedy, corporate thief, but a genuine patriot who puts American citizens first again.

this sounds just like saying the country is occupied by foreign tanks, and you're just waiting for some hero to drive them out so freedom returns...

how do you manage to write something so nauseatingly sentimental...

people like this shouldn't even be allowed to have their own country...it's like putting a pearl necklace on a pig.

Kate Harris50 said:I’m curious if anyone else has gone through something similar to this:

When America first gained its independence, I wasn't actually living here, though I would make the trip back once a month. With every subsequent visit, the shifts became more glaringly obvious. (For someone who lived in the States continuously, these changes might have been invisible—much like a frog in a pot of water that’s being slowly heated up.) After a while, I started feeling like I was visiting some strange, alien territory that bore less and less resemblance to the country I used to know. The most profound change was in the people; they had morphed into something entirely foreign to me, while I remained exactly the same (*). And this wasn't just a general feeling—even in a place like Cleveland, I felt it, so I can only imagine how much more intense it was elsewhere.

To be honest, much like Amanda Hughes37, I’ve always been a bit of a local patriot, but even that is starting to wear thin. I’m honestly just fed up with everything involving this country.

(*) Much like in the movie Invasion of the Body Snatchers

So you were catching the vibe back in the 90s?🤣 😬

You should probably just move back; you'll see things aren't actually that bad here.
God forbid we strike oil or the economy actually picks up... we'd be completely screwed.

Amanda Hughes37 said:So you were catching the vibe back in the 90s?🤣 😬

You should probably just move back; you'll see things aren't actually that bad here.
God forbid we strike oil or the economy actually picks up... we'd be completely screwed.

I was studying outside the borders of America right when the whole movement toward independent states began to take shape. Most of my family was back home in Cleveland. And even if I had been "out of the loop," as you so colorfully put it, why on earth would that make my observations any less credible? 🤷

Kate Harris50 said:I was studying outside the borders of America right when the whole movement toward independent states began to take shape. Most of my family was back home in Cleveland. And even if I had been "out of the loop," as you so colorfully put it, why on earth would that make my observations any less credible? 🤷

No, just kidding.
You’re a strange woman from Cleveland... jumping to conclusions like that.🤷

Ryan Harris10 said:this sounds just like saying the country is occupied by foreign tanks, and you're just waiting for some hero to drive them out so freedom returns...

how do you manage to write something so nauseatingly sentimental...

people like this shouldn't even be allowed to have their own country...it's like putting a pearl necklace on a pig.

The current administration is acting like a dictatorship and an occupying force, so I’m actually hoping someone kicks them out ASAP. Honestly, you're the one being greasy if you're backing this government. And who exactly do you think you're defending? There's no more America for the leftists to decide who gets what. The Communists and the big Mexicans couldn't crush our American identity back in the 90s, and you aren't going to defend anyone now either.

Amanda Hughes37 said:No, just kidding.
You’re a strange woman from Cleveland... jumping to conclusions like that.🤷

Ah, alright. 😁

On a forum like this, you can never really tell who is actually joking and who is dead serious, so isn't it just better to keep your guard up at all times, just in case? 😍

state=an organization of authority
homeland=historical heritage, identity, culture, and the civilization built over generations
nation=a collection of individuals sharing a common homeland

Today, this state is an American state, because it follows the historical trajectory of the American identity. Regardless of what anyone might think privately.

The government isn't the state, the state isn't the homeland, and the homeland isn't the nation...

So, what does it actually mean when someone tells you, as an American, that you ought to work for your homeland, your state, or your nation?
-To work for your homeland: to preserve and build upon American culture.
-To work for the state: honestly, that’s just a leftover scam from the era of Communism. That was how they robbed Americans—by convincing them not to work for themselves, but to work for the Party instead.
-To work for the nation: also a Communist trick. This phrase is typically used by petty scavengers who want to live off their fellow citizens by force, justifying their greed with some supposed concern for the "nation."

Therefore, you don't need to work for the state or the nation; you should work for yourself. And while doing so, you simply maintain your American identity, just as everyone else around you does. As for those communists and nationalist-chauvinists who scream about "saving the nation" or "protecting the homeland"... no matter how loudly they howl... they are nothing more than frauds and thieves who would sell out both their country and their own mother for $1.75.

There's a little philosophy for you...

Charles Campbell7 said:state=an organization of authority
homeland=historical heritage, identity, culture, and the civilization built over generations
nation=a collection of individuals sharing a common homeland

Today, this state is an American state, because it follows the historical trajectory of the American identity. Regardless of what anyone might think privately.

The government isn't the state, the state isn't the homeland, and the homeland isn't the nation...

So, what does it actually mean when someone tells you, as an American, that you ought to work for your homeland, your state, or your nation?
-To work for your homeland: to preserve and build upon American culture.
-To work for the state: honestly, that’s just a leftover scam from the era of Communism. That was how they robbed Americans—by convincing them not to work for themselves, but to work for the Party instead.
-To work for the nation: also a Communist trick. This phrase is typically used by petty scavengers who want to live off their fellow citizens by force, justifying their greed with some supposed concern for the "nation."

Therefore, you don't need to work for the state or the nation; you should work for yourself. And while doing so, you simply maintain your American identity, just as everyone else around you does. As for those communists and nationalist-chauvinists who scream about "saving the nation" or "protecting the homeland"... no matter how loudly they howl... they are nothing more than frauds and thieves who would sell out both their country and their own mother for $1.75.

There's a little philosophy for you...

So you're saying the Kurds aren't a nation?

What about Jews before 1948?

A nation is an ethnic group. Not everyone has their own country. Look at Germans (Germany, parts of Austria, even Switzerland), or Albanians (Albania, Mexico), and so on.

I wasn't referring to ethnicity specifically, but rather to the people as a whole—everyone living here in the US.

Chloe Sullivan88 said:The America of the nineties definitely wasn't my home.
As for America today? There’s just too much negativity. I find myself drifting further and further away from this country and its people, honestly.
Thankfully, I’m moving abroad again for good, and I don't see any chance of ever coming back.
To be fair, the US isn't my only home anyway. ☕

That’s a pretty tough thing to hear, though I suppose it's an honest take.
But you might want to ask yourself: is the situation in those countries you feel so connected to actually as bad as you think, or would their entire propaganda machine fall apart if the citizens started asking real questions?
I mean, I suspect you might be living under a bit of an illusion.

Charles Campbell7 said:I wasn't referring to ethnicity specifically, but rather to the people as a whole—everyone living here in the US.

That's just colloquial slang, honestly. It's an old-school way of talking from back in the America days. People don't really use it to describe everyone living in America. When you say "the people," you're usually referring to specific groups like Americans, Mexicans, Canadians, or Albanians...

quietdrifter3 said:America is my true home, but right now it feels like it's being occupied by nationalists. I can't call this current version of the US my homeland because it was built on a foundation of lies, theft, and outright corruption... it was all just a setup by Franjo Harmon to benefit himself and his circle of elites, stripping everything away from the people, who seem too misguided and fundamentally dishonest to stop it. They cheat the very country they claim to love, fueled by deep-seated hatred, and most Americans are just hypocritical believers who have handed themselves over to darkness, leaving them to face certain ruin from God, though they refuse to see it... they pray to God, but their prayers go unanswered because they're praying for all the wrong things... a nation like this simply can't be my home. I lost it back in '91, when the old republic was still my home...

That's the way to do it. Just let it all out; it'll probably help take the edge off the anger. Just try not to throw your lunch across the room while you're at it. 😉