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Are we at our happiest as children?

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John Mendoza13 John Mendoza13 MemberOP
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#1 ·
I was sitting there watching some talk show on CNN earlier today, and this guy starts preaching about how the absolute peak of human happiness is found in living purely in the moment. He goes on to claim that children are basically the only ones who actually pull it off, arguing that they’re the happiest beings on the planet because they don't have a single worry in the world under the sun...
Do you guys actually buy that? Personally, I find myself nodding along with his logic; there’s something to be said for the idea that kids are the most content because they aren't weighed down by the baggage of the past or paralyzed by whatever uncertainty the future might throw at them...
Ronald Jones Ronald Jones Active Member
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#2 ·
I find myself in complete agreement here as well. 🙂
Brenda Booth5 Brenda Booth5 Member
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#3 ·
Exactly the same way.

I truly believe there is a valid reason behind this. Kids have an immense amount of growing up to do before they finally grasp the big picture. If they spent that entire formative period spiraling into "what if" scenarios or obsessing over their own uncertain futures, I suspect it would simply break them...

I'm probably not reinventing the wheel here, but that was just my first thought on the matter.
Nicholas Gonzalez8 Nicholas Gonzalez8 Regular
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#4 ·
Look, kids do this naturally, sure, but honestly? Any adult can choose to live that way if they actually try. There’s really no point in constantly fretting or dwelling on what went wrong. When we get stuck in that loop of worry and regret, we end up completely missing the here and now—and that’s the real kicker, because the present moment is exactly what ends up defining our entire past and our future.

I mean, don't get me wrong—it makes sense to occasionally map out where you're going, take a second to appreciate those big wins, and—this is the important part—actually learn something from the rough patches we've been through. But at the end of the day, life is happening right now, in this very second, and that's where our focus needs to be. Period.
Aaron Allen5 Aaron Allen5 Member
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#5 ·
I find that notion to be utter nonsense! Truly, the most fulfilled individual is one who has achieved genuine personal contentment. We are talking about someone who pursued their chosen vocation, married the person they truly loved, secured a career at a company of their choice, and successfully realized their lifelong ambitions. To build a family and find peace in that—that is the essence of it. Happiness isn't found in selfishness or in a narrow focus on one's own ego... especially when that self-absorption reaches such an extreme level that everyone else starts avoiding you entirely!!
analogwalker8 analogwalker8 Active Member
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#6 ·
Kids aren't necessarily the happiest people out there, but man, they definitely have the biggest head start when it comes to joy. It’s because they live entirely in the "now"—they find genuine bliss in the smallest, most random little things. Even when they hit those teenage years, they usually stay pretty upbeat because they don't have a mountain of responsibilities yet, and even when life does throw a curveball, they just breeze through it with that raw, youthful energy. Honestly, I think a kid's greatest superpower is actually their lack of self-awareness—they just *exist*. If you look at adults who can actually rival that kind of happiness, they usually fall into one of three camps: the folks who are just naturally sunny by design, the lucky ones who somehow dodged all life's major stressors, or the deep thinkers who finally found their zen through some sort of spiritual awakening. But even then, none of them truly touch that level of pure childhood joy. Adults always carry baggage—we worry about the future, we’ve had to fight through struggles just to get to a decent place, and we're constantly overthinking everything. Kids? They're happy by default. Even if things are tough or they're lacking support, they don't have that heavy, analytical consciousness weighing them down yet.
analogwalker8 analogwalker8 Active Member
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#7 ·
Then again, I feel like luck is such a relative thing, you know? Like, someone who’s just totally oblivious—maybe they aren't the sharpest tool in the shed or just don't grasp what's actually going down around them—might feel happy, but is that *real* happiness? To them, sure, it feels fine, but it’s kind of a hollow version because they’re basically living in a fog. Or take a hermit living out in the Mojave Desert, right? Someone who spends their entire life just munching on roots, meditating, and feeling totally content... how can they even be sure they've got it right? They might hit eighty years old and suddenly realize they took the wrong turn in life, and by then, that "happiness" feels pretty fake. This is where kids have this massive edge—their happiness is both subjective and objective at the same time. A kid doesn't really get the big picture yet, which is totally normal—they'll catch up eventually. Right now, they shouldn't be worrying about the heavy stuff anyway. From an objective standpoint, a child's joy is legitimate because this stage is literally designed for fun and play before they get thrown into the meat grinder of the real world. A kid can't really "lose" their happiness while they're still small (even when things go wrong, they just don't have the capacity to fully process those tragedies yet, so the bliss stays intact). Honestly, that window between ages 5 and 13 is the absolute golden era for any human being.
Brian Allen18 Brian Allen18 Member
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#8 ·
I suppose so, though I wouldn't say it's because they lack burdens—after all, there are plenty of adults out there who have absolutely nothing to worry about and still manage to be miserable... It’s more about their perspective on the world 😍, where everything feels fresh and unexplored... They simply haven't been bogged down by as much negativity or bad experiences yet.
I honestly believe that sense of wonder adults try to preserve through their hobbies; that's why I find people without any real interests or passions to be deeply suspicious... 😁
goldenjackal43 goldenjackal43 Newcomer
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#9 ·
On an individual level, it probably averages out. Most people don't manage to find that one singular passion and achieve massive success within it simultaneously; instead, they face the reality of compromise, balancing their interests with a career that actually pays the bills. Then, as we age, health issues inevitably start to creep in.

But look at the broader picture. There are millions of people who grew up in abusive or neglected households and still managed to find significant success later in life. Conversely, there are plenty of people who lived incredibly comfortable lives from day one, yet find themselves easily disillusioned by even the smallest setbacks. Then you have those who spend years, decades, relentlessly chasing a specific goal—the ones who find their greatest sense of fulfillment upon winning an Olympic medal, a Nobel Prize, or a Fields Medal, or perhaps becoming a world champion. And finally, there are the lifelong learners, the scientists and researchers, who spend their entire lives doing work they love and are still making progress well into their 80s.

Everyone has their own unique journey. Every story is composed of peaks and valleys; you can't simply point to a single period in life where a person is at their absolute happiest. 😉
William White3 William White3 Newcomer
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#10 ·
I look back now and realize I was at my absolute happiest when I was just a kid. It’s funny how much more sense that makes to me today, even though people used to tell me

back when I was little that childhood was the best time of your life. I really believed them, so I never felt any rush to grow up. Honestly, I’d give anything to go back to that carefree state—to be completely unburdened by everything I know now and all the heavy life lessons I've picked up along the way.
Richard Wells Richard Wells Active Member
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#11 ·
Look, people in different stages of life deal with different stuff. Sure, kids might have had it the easiest, but there’s nothing saying you can’t chase that same kind of vibe as an adult—it’s just way harder when you’re juggling a million responsibilities.

There’s a mindset shift we can make to fit our current stage of life, but most adults just don't bother... It's about cutting down the stress and actually noticing the little things—each new day, the people you love, and realizing that tomorrow isn't a guarantee while the past should stay right where it belongs. Sometimes, you’ve gotta put yourself and your own needs first. Express your gratitude, your anger, or whatever else you're feeling, as long as you do it with some class. Just be real. That's the secret sauce to happiness, and anyone can work on it, but most people won't. If they did, they’d feel that childhood joy again instead of life feeling like such a grind. I'm not talking about myself specifically, just speaking generally. 😁
John Mendoza13 John Mendoza13 MemberOP
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#12 ·
Aaron Allen5 said:I find that notion to be utter nonsense! Truly, the most fulfilled individual is one who has achieved genuine personal contentment. We are talking about someone who pursued their chosen vocation, married the person they truly loved, secured a career at a company of their choice, and successfully realized their lifelong ambitions. To build a family and find peace in that—that is the essence of it. Happiness isn't found in selfishness or in a narrow focus on one's own ego... especially when that self-absorption reaches such an extreme level that everyone else starts avoiding you entirely!!

But look, if someone actually lands that dream job they worked so hard for, they end up worrying about a million different things just to stay successful, and if they married, suddenly there's the whole weight of raising kids to deal with...
while kids don't have any of those heavy burdens; their biggest crisis is usually just waiting for their favorite cartoon to come on TV.
The mention of children in impoverished parts of Africa earlier makes me wonder if those kids might actually be happier than half the wealthy people we see here in the States; money isn't the core purpose of life if you're looking for true happiness for a child.
crimsoncanyon2 crimsoncanyon2 Active Member
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#13 ·
Is childhood really the peak of human happiness? It’s one of those questions that sounds simple until you actually stop to think about it—and then it just becomes this endless loop of "what ifs." I see people constantly romanticizing being a kid, acting like life was just pure sunshine and rainbows before the crushing weight of reality set in. But honestly? I don't buy the whole "happiest ever" narrative. Sure, you don't have to worry about paying rent or navigating the absolute mess that is the modern American economy, but there’s a different kind of struggle when you have zero autonomy. You’re basically a passenger in your own life, subject to the whims of whoever is in charge of you. And let's be real—not everyone had a perfect upbringing. For a lot of us, childhood wasn't some nostalgic montage; it was just... complicated. To say it's the pinnacle of happiness ignores anyone who grew up dealing with actual hardship. Maybe we aren't "happiest" as kids, maybe we're just too blissfully ignorant to know how much things are going to suck later. There's a massive difference between genuine happiness and just not knowing enough to be miserable yet.
It’s a philosophical question, really—and honestly, one that depends entirely on what kind of childhood that person had.
Kids are blissfully unaware—for the most part—living like they’re in some sort of endless summer where nothing ever goes wrong. They just drift through life without a care in the world, acting like this carefree state of mind is going to last forever.
Kids growing up in broken homes don't exactly have it easy—they aren't living these carefree, worry-free lives. Honestly, they’re usually just counting down the days until they can finally escape, hoping that once they hit adulthood, they might actually be able to build some semblance of happiness for themselves.

In my book, the happiest people are the ones who actually live for today—kind of like animals, really. They just exist in the moment, while they handle the "securing the future" stuff through pure instinct or routine habit rather than constant, neurotic overthinking.
It’s like those squirrels—you know the ones—always frantically hoarding nuts and acorns way ahead of schedule. They’re just out there constantly prepping for a winter that hasn't even hit yet.
They live for the moment, soaking up every second—but without being reckless about it. They actually get things done that matter, mostly because they’ve already proven themselves to be...
A decent solution.
analogwalker8 said:Then again, I feel like luck is such a relative thing, you know? Like, someone who’s just totally oblivious—maybe they aren't the sharpest tool in the shed or just don't grasp what's actually going down around them—might feel happy, but is that *real* happiness? To them, sure, it feels fine, but it’s kind of a hollow version because they’re basically living in a fog. Or take a hermit living out in the Mojave Desert, right? Someone who spends their entire life just munching on roots, meditating, and feeling totally content... how can they even be sure they've got it right? They might hit eighty years old and suddenly realize they took the wrong turn in life, and by then, that "happiness" feels pretty fake. This is where kids have this massive edge—their happiness is both subjective and objective at the same time. A kid doesn't really get the big picture yet, which is totally normal—they'll catch up eventually. Right now, they shouldn't be worrying about the heavy stuff anyway. From an objective standpoint, a child's joy is legitimate because this stage is literally designed for fun and play before they get thrown into the meat grinder of the real world. A kid can't really "lose" their happiness while they're still small (even when things go wrong, they just don't have the capacity to fully process those tragedies yet, so the bliss stays intact). Honestly, that window between ages 5 and 13 is the absolute golden era for any human being.

So, what are we supposed to do with the people who actually managed to find happiness—both objectively and subjectively—once they hit adulthood?
John Mendoza13 said:But look, if someone actually lands that dream job they worked so hard for, they end up worrying about a million different things just to stay successful, and if they married, suddenly there's the whole weight of raising kids to deal with...
while kids don't have any of those heavy burdens; their biggest crisis is usually just waiting for their favorite cartoon to come on TV.
The mention of children in impoverished parts of Africa earlier makes me wonder if those kids might actually be happier than half the wealthy people we see here in the States; money isn't the core purpose of life if you're looking for true happiness for a child.

Look, it doesn't have to be that way—people can actually grow up and find fulfillment. You can land a job you actually love, make a decent living, and spend quality time hanging out with your kids without all the baggage. It’s about finally being able to enjoy life because you aren't stuck reliving the trauma of being a ten-year-old kid who spent every waking second terrified—whether it was wondering if an alcoholic dad was going to lose his temper and beat him, or dreading some predatory relative coming around. You can actually find happiness once you escape that kind of nightmare.
This topic feels incredibly philosophical—maybe even a bit too abstract for a real debate—because, in a way, it dismisses two major realities. It ignores the fact that plenty of kids are genuinely victims of their circumstances, while simultaneously brushing aside the many adults who have actually put in the work to craft lives they truly enjoy and find fulfillment in.
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goldenjackal43 said:On an individual level, it probably averages out. Most people don't manage to find that one singular passion and achieve massive success within it simultaneously; instead, they face the reality of compromise, balancing their interests with a career that actually pays the bills. Then, as we age, health issues inevitably start to creep in.

But look at the broader picture. There are millions of people who grew up in abusive or neglected households and still managed to find significant success later in life. Conversely, there are plenty of people who lived incredibly comfortable lives from day one, yet find themselves easily disillusioned by even the smallest setbacks. Then you have those who spend years, decades, relentlessly chasing a specific goal—the ones who find their greatest sense of fulfillment upon winning an Olympic medal, a Nobel Prize, or a Fields Medal, or perhaps becoming a world champion. And finally, there are the lifelong learners, the scientists and researchers, who spend their entire lives doing work they love and are still making progress well into their 80s.

Everyone has their own unique journey. Every story is composed of peaks and valleys; you can't simply point to a single period in life where a person is at their absolute happiest. 😉

Just being objective here 🙂
Jack Smith5 Jack Smith5 Active Member
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#14 ·
You aren't actually at your happiest when you're a kid. Back then, you’re basically stuck in a box—limited, restricted, and completely dependent on everyone else just to function. You can't pull off anything on your own.
True happiness comes when you're finally doing what you love alongside the people you love. Period.
Richard Wells Richard Wells Active Member
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#15 ·
Then why does it seem like most adults are just miserable?
Melissa Sanchez8 Melissa Sanchez8 Active Member
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#16 ·
John Mendoza13 said:I was sitting there watching some talk show on CNN earlier today, and this guy starts preaching about how the absolute peak of human happiness is found in living purely in the moment. He goes on to claim that children are basically the only ones who actually pull it off, arguing that they’re the happiest beings on the planet because they don't have a single worry in the world under the sun...
Do you guys actually buy that? Personally, I find myself nodding along with his logic; there’s something to be said for the idea that kids are the most content because they aren't weighed down by the baggage of the past or paralyzed by whatever uncertainty the future might throw at them...

What age range are we talking about when you say "kids"?

I could see the logic in saying happiness comes from living in the moment, but pinning that exclusively on children feels wrong.
A kid is happy when their needs are met, sure, but they’re just as miserable when they aren't.
So, that idea that "kids don't worry about anything" isn't exactly the truth.
They just move on faster because they get distracted by whatever is happening right now. Of course, I'm assuming we're talking about a child who isn't being mistreated, hungry, or dealing with major trauma... and I'm looking at the range from infancy up to maybe 12 years old.
Aaron Allen5 Aaron Allen5 Member
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#17 ·
John Mendoza13 said:But look, if someone actually lands that dream job they worked so hard for, they end up worrying about a million different things just to stay successful, and if they married, suddenly there's the whole weight of raising kids to deal with...
while kids don't have any of those heavy burdens; their biggest crisis is usually just waiting for their favorite cartoon to come on TV.
The mention of children in impoverished parts of Africa earlier makes me wonder if those kids might actually be happier than half the wealthy people we see here in the States; money isn't the core purpose of life if you're looking for true happiness for a child.

Children need to listen to their parents, eat what is put in front of them, and wear whatever clothes are bought or provided for them. However, once a person is established in their career, living their own life—whether they are single or part of a family—they actually have the power to make choices! 🙂

No matter what flaws one might have, the constant mental checklist remains: "I need to buy firewood," "I need to stock up on coal for the winter," "I have to set aside money for the kids' tuition," "I have to pay the utility bills first," or "I need to grab groceries." But that is precisely where the true essence of life lies! 🙂 If a person didn't have these kinds of "obligations," life would be incredibly dull!
northernharbor32 northernharbor32 Member
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#18 ·
John Mendoza13 said:I was sitting there watching some talk show on CNN earlier today, and this guy starts preaching about how the absolute peak of human happiness is found in living purely in the moment. He goes on to claim that children are basically the only ones who actually pull it off, arguing that they’re the happiest beings on the planet because they don't have a single worry in the world under the sun...
Do you guys actually buy that? Personally, I find myself nodding along with his logic; there’s something to be said for the idea that kids are the most content because they aren't weighed down by the baggage of the past or paralyzed by whatever uncertainty the future might throw at them...

I'm with you on that. There’s no work stress, no sibling rivalry, no relationship drama, and zero anxiety about the future. It’s best experienced through my five-month-old niece... you just hold her in your arms while she reaches out into the air, totally oblivious to the world. She really doesn't have a care in the world.☕
Aaron Allen5 Aaron Allen5 Member
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#19 ·
Let’s be perfectly honest here: you see these types of "neurodivergent" individuals in almost every government agency and major corporation, even among people in their 30s and 40s! It’s essentially the same old story where they remain entirely dependent on their parents. And the moment those parents pass away? They’re absolutely lost, just spinning in circles without a clue how to function.

Every single "responsibility" and every perceived "crisis" ends up being handled by the older generation!
John Mendoza13 John Mendoza13 MemberOP
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northernharbor32 said:I'm with you on that. There’s no work stress, no sibling rivalry, no relationship drama, and zero anxiety about the future. It’s best experienced through my five-month-old niece... you just hold her in your arms while she reaches out into the air, totally oblivious to the world. She really doesn't have a care in the world.☕

Sometimes I catch myself staring at a baby in a stroller and thinking about how lucky they are to just exist without a care in the world, mostly because they aren't even aware of how brutal things can get, while the rest of us are stuck grinding through work, school, and all the other endless responsibilities.

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