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Am I being too naive?

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Participants quietviper27Paul Thompson3Nathan Foster4Joseph Gonzalez57Nicholas KingLawrence Hill6gentlesailor25Matthew Booth2Emily Garcia3crimsoncanyon2Jack Smith5Megan Wilson8Carl Martinez9gentlebison2
Joseph Gonzalez57 Joseph Gonzalez57 Newcomer
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#21 ·
Jack Smith5 said:Actually, I see it differently. A manipulator isn't looking for a fool; they're usually hunting for someone even more cunning than themselves. On the flip side, it's the people with genuine intentions who gravitate toward the naive. They might see the simplicity as a flaw, but they view that inherent goodness as a redeeming quality that outweighs everything else.

Look at the folks moving out of the concrete jungles and back to the countryside lately. They aren't looking for those sleazy, small-town types who spend their whole lives trying to cheat a neighbor out of a few extra bucks just so they can brag about it at the local diner. That kind of behavior is just bottom-tier.

It feels to me like you're becoming a bit obsessed with this...🙂 relax.
First off, where you live doesn't dictate your psychological makeup. You can find plenty of shady characters looking to scam someone out of a few dollars in the middle of nowhere, too.
From what I've seen, human nature is pretty much independent of geography; it's shaped by life experience, as I mentioned earlier. Everyone has their own reasons for how they act.
Jack Smith5 Jack Smith5 Active Member
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Megan Wilson8 said:I honestly think it all comes down to how you were raised. For instance, I grew up with my grandmother—she was an absolute sweetheart who refused to see any evil in anyone. People could walk all over her, and she’d just take it because she was so incredibly naive. And honestly? I turned out exactly the same way. I tend to cave the second someone tells me what to do... But look, life experience is slowly starting to shape me, bit by bit. I'm actively fighting to stop being that pushover... at least not when it ends up hurting me.

It all comes down to perception. My grandfather passed away a pretty simple, unassuming man. He spent his entire life grinding through endless shifts—jobs that were grueling and exhausting—mostly for people who didn't give a damn about him or barely acknowledged his effort. But honestly? It didn't bother him. He found a weird kind of peace in just staying busy; he was happy as long as there was work to be done. He used to tell me that he didn't care what people called him or how they viewed him, provided they weren't going out of their way to be malicious. When it came to money, he never let it go to his head. He wasn't greedy. If someone asked him for help, he gave it. I remember being about ten or eleven years old, asking him for a pack of Marlboros, and he wouldn't have thought twice about handing them over. He told me that straight up. He just lived life on his own terms.
He was "chill" about pretty much everything. You could have practically stood on his head and he wouldn't have blinked. Nothing really got under his skin, and honestly, he lived a pretty happy, fulfilled life—well, if you ignore the occasional little thing like a world war here and there.😂 I guess it’s more or less the same thing.
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Joseph Gonzalez57 said:It feels to me like you're becoming a bit obsessed with this...🙂 relax.
First off, where you live doesn't dictate your psychological makeup. You can find plenty of shady characters looking to scam someone out of a few dollars in the middle of nowhere, too.
From what I've seen, human nature is pretty much independent of geography; it's shaped by life experience, as I mentioned earlier. Everyone has their own reasons for how they act.

You’re one hundred percent right on that point, but my actual intention was to focus on the people who... Things are finally starting to pick up today. It’s about time. Back in the day, when people talk about "country living," there’s a massive distinction they tend to miss. I'm talking about the gap between folks who have lived in rural America their entire lives—people whose families have worked the same dirt for generations—and those who just moved out to the sticks recently. Or, you know, the actual ghosts of the past, the people who inhabited these towns long before we ever showed up. You catch my drift?

These are the people who have grown sick of the city grind and just want to live a completely different kind of life.
Joseph Gonzalez57 Joseph Gonzalez57 Newcomer
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#23 ·
Jack Smith5 said:Quentin Tarantino

It all comes down to perception. My grandfather passed away a pretty simple, unassuming man. He spent his entire life grinding through endless shifts—jobs that were grueling and exhausting—mostly for people who didn't give a damn about him or barely acknowledged his effort. But honestly? It didn't bother him. He found a weird kind of peace in just staying busy; he was happy as long as there was work to be done. He used to tell me that he didn't care what people called him or how they viewed him, provided they weren't going out of their way to be malicious. When it came to money, he never let it go to his head. He wasn't greedy. If someone asked him for help, he gave it. I remember being about ten or eleven years old, asking him for a pack of Marlboros, and he wouldn't have thought twice about handing them over. He told me that straight up. He just lived life on his own terms.
He was "chill" about pretty much everything. You could have practically stood on his head and he wouldn't have blinked. Nothing really got under his skin, and honestly, he lived a pretty happy, fulfilled life—well, if you ignore the occasional little thing like a world war here and there.😂 I guess it’s more or less the same thing.
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You’re one hundred percent right on that point, but my actual intention was to focus on the people who... Things are finally starting to pick up today. It’s about time. Back in the day, when people talk about "country living," there’s a massive distinction they tend to miss. I'm talking about the gap between folks who have lived in rural America their entire lives—people whose families have worked the same dirt for generations—and those who just moved out to the sticks recently. Or, you know, the actual ghosts of the past, the people who inhabited these towns long before we ever showed up. You catch my drift?

These are the people who have grown sick of the city grind and just want to live a completely different kind of life.

Not necessarily... personally, I want to live outside the city limits, but not because I'm fed up with urban life. Motivation doesn't always have to be rooted in something negative or tied to social friction. For me, it's purely about health and providing a better environment for my future kids!
Jack Smith5 Jack Smith5 Active Member
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#24 ·
Alright, then I guess I'll just go ahead and get back to workand finish up😁
Carl Martinez9 Carl Martinez9 Newcomer
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#25 ·
I think it’s a bit of everything, honestly. You’ve got innate intelligence, sure, but it really comes down to how you were raised and the environment you grew up in...
I personally know this woman, she's pushing 30, and she's about as naive as a toddler, despite having a PhD. Why?
Because that's how she was raised—kept under a literal glass bell jar. For all thirty years of her life, she just focused on school and stayed wrapped up in her own little bubble. She hasn't experienced enough of the "real world" to actually toughen up. Now that she's finally out on her own, she's hitting walls that would have been easy to handle if she'd faced them sooner. She's just... incredibly emotionally fragile. Injustice hits her so hard it feels like she's borderline unstable... 😢
The worst part is that she’s smart enough to realize what's happening, but she can't help being naive because anything else just feels "unfair" to her. She refuses to play games; she goes into every situation with total honesty and kindness, only to have people walk all over her without giving back even 1% of that energy.
So, you tell me... how do you even deal with someone like that? If you try to be blunt with them, they'll take it personally, and there's zero guarantee that being careful will even work...
gentlebison2 gentlebison2 Newcomer
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#26 ·
I suspect that naivety is a trait reserved exclusively for small children. If being naive means accepting assertions as gospel without a shred of empirical evidence, then we aren't just talking about innocence—we're discussing a profound character flaw and a rather dangerous way to navigate the world.🙂

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