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Ethan Bailey18 Ethan Bailey18 Active Member
80 messages
joined Oct 2015
#1241 ·
Betty King7 said:Are we issuing the invoice in dollars or what?

Under Section 81 of the Tax Code...:
Invoice amounts must be stated in USD, though you can include any other currency alongside it for convenience.
vividotter912 vividotter912 Member
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joined Sep 2015
#1242 ·
Not sure if this is the right thread, but I need some help.
I made a payment in the USA from my USD account for 1,000 Eurosโ€”just a standard conversion.
On my USD statement, it shows up as $2500. It was for a security deposit. Anyway, the deposit has been returned, but my Euro account is sitting at 990 Euros. A German client sent 1,000, but I guess there was a 10 Euro fee somewhere.
How am I supposed to book this mess... any advice would be appreciated.๐Ÿ™
Ryan Rogers4 Ryan Rogers4 Member
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#1243 ·
vividotter912 said:Not sure if this is the right thread, but I need some help.
I made a payment in the USA from my USD account for 1,000 Eurosโ€”just a standard conversion.
On my USD statement, it shows up as $2500. It was for a security deposit. Anyway, the deposit has been returned, but my Euro account is sitting at 990 Euros. A German client sent 1,000, but I guess there was a 10 Euro fee somewhere.
How am I supposed to book this mess... any advice would be appreciated.๐Ÿ™

Post the deposit to the same account where you recorded the initial $7,500 outflow. For the Euro account, record the 1,000 Euros using the exchange rate from the day it hit the account. That difference between the two is your foreign exchange gain/loss. Then, just book the bank fee using the daily exchange rateโ€”either under 4xxx/10xx or 220/10xx if your bank sends a separate invoice for those fees.
vividotter912 vividotter912 Member
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#1244 ·
Ryan Rogers4 said:Post the deposit to the same account where you recorded the initial $7,500 outflow. For the Euro account, record the 1,000 Euros using the exchange rate from the day it hit the account. That difference between the two is your foreign exchange gain/loss. Then, just book the bank fee using the daily exchange rateโ€”either under 4xxx/10xx or 220/10xx if your bank sends a separate invoice for those fees.

I didn't quite follow you...
So, when I paid via the statement, I debited the vendor and credited the account for that $7,500 amount.
Now they're refunding me, but the money isn't hitting my USD accountโ€”it's going into the foreign currency account.
Should I open a new sub-account, like 1001, and record the debt using the Fed mid-rate, or what...(please, just give me a workflow) I get the part about exchange rates, thanks.๐Ÿ™‚
Ryan Rogers4 Ryan Rogers4 Member
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joined Sep 2015
#1245 ·
vividotter912 said:I didn't quite follow you...
So, when I paid via the statement, I debited the vendor and credited the account for that $7,500 amount.
Now they're refunding me, but the money isn't hitting my USD accountโ€”it's going into the foreign currency account.
Should I open a new sub-account, like 1001, and record the debt using the Fed mid-rate, or what...(please, just give me a workflow) I get the part about exchange rates, thanks.๐Ÿ™‚

It doesn't matter that it wasn't in the same account. My foreign currency account is 1030.
Then just book it like this:
1030/- the $1,000 amount at the mid-market rate on the day of the refund ($2533)
-/2210 (Vendor) $2500
-/77xx $33 (Exchange difference)
4xxx/1030 75.99 (the $10 amount x Federal Reserve mid-market rate) if the bank doesn't send separate fee invoices, or
2200/1030 75.99 if the bank does send fee invoices.

Don't let it trip you upโ€”just because you paid from one account and the money came back to another doesn't change anything. It's all your money.๐Ÿ™‚
vividotter912 vividotter912 Member
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joined Sep 2015
#1246 ·
Ryan Rogers4 said:It doesn't matter that it wasn't in the same account. My foreign currency account is 1030.
Then just book it like this:
1030/- the $1,000 amount at the mid-market rate on the day of the refund ($2533)
-/2210 (Vendor) $2500
-/77xx $33 (Exchange difference)
4xxx/1030 75.99 (the $10 amount x Federal Reserve mid-market rate) if the bank doesn't send separate fee invoices, or
2200/1030 75.99 if the bank does send fee invoices.

Don't let it trip you upโ€”just because you paid from one account and the money came back to another doesn't change anything. It's all your money.๐Ÿ™‚

Thanks, dear.๐Ÿ˜‰
vividotter912 vividotter912 Member
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joined Sep 2015
#1247 ·
I'm issuing an invoice for construction services performed in Mexico.

What exactly should I include in the notes:
the service is not taxable under Section 19 of the Tax Code, or
the tax liability is transferred per Section 19...

I know the invoice needs to be in dollars, but if I want to show the amount in euros as well, do I just use
the mid-market exchange rate?
vividotter912 vividotter912 Member
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joined Sep 2015
#1248 ·
I'm confused again, so I need some help.
I have an invoice from the USA dated 10/23/2015 (invoice date)
It was paid on 10/20/2015.
When recording the incoming invoice, which mid-market exchange rate should I use...
The rate from 10/20 when the payment went out, or 10/23 from the invoice date?๐Ÿ™‚
Ethan Bailey18 Ethan Bailey18 Active Member
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joined Oct 2015
#1249 ·
vividotter912 said:I'm confused again, so I need some help.
I have an invoice from the USA dated 10/23/2015 (invoice date)
It was paid on 10/20/2015.
When recording the incoming invoice, which mid-market exchange rate should I use...
The rate from 10/20 when the payment went out, or 10/23 from the invoice date?๐Ÿ™‚

The invoice date.
Drew Rogers6 Drew Rogers6 Active Member
61 messages
joined Oct 2013
#1250 ·
Just wanted to run this by you guys to see if I'm on the right track

We handled a transport job over in Germany for a German company. I billed them without sales tax, just added a note about the reverse charge mechanism.

The thing is, we couldn't get everything sorted on our ownโ€”it was a total messโ€”so a colleague had to jump in and help us out, and he issued us an invoice that *does* include sales tax. Is that actually okay? Thanks!
Aaron Young85 Aaron Young85 Member
21 messages
joined Feb 2015
#1251 ·
I could really use some help if anyoneโ€™s been through this before.

So, I've got this supplier over in Germany asking me for our specific legal structure. See, we operate as a sole proprietorship here in the States, but their VAT identification system doesn't seem to have a category for a simple sole proprietor. Instead, their system just lists a million different options like corporations, LLCs, partnerships, public companies, joint ventures, and who knows what else... I'm honestly kind of lost on what to tell them or how we should even be categorized in their eyes. :/ Anyone have any ideas?
Carol Price4 Carol Price4 Regular
380 messages
joined Nov 2019
#1252 ·
All he really cares about is whether you have a valid Tax ID or notโ€”he just needs to be able to run it through the system... just give him the number, and once he checks it, all his info will pop up right there so he can write down whatever he needs...
ruggedmaker2 ruggedmaker2 Regular
469 messages
joined Mar 2018
#1253 ·
Theyโ€™re probably just trying to get you logged into their system under some specific category or assign you a certain vendor status or whatever.
Just scan your business license or whatever paperwork you have as a small business owner and send it over so they can handle the translation themselves.
Drew Rogers6 Drew Rogers6 Active Member
61 messages
joined Oct 2013
#1254 ·
Aaron Young85 said:I could really use some help if anyoneโ€™s been through this before.

So, I've got this supplier over in Germany asking me for our specific legal structure. See, we operate as a sole proprietorship here in the States, but their VAT identification system doesn't seem to have a category for a simple sole proprietor. Instead, their system just lists a million different options like corporations, LLCs, partnerships, public companies, joint ventures, and who knows what else... I'm honestly kind of lost on what to tell them or how we should even be categorized in their eyes. :/ Anyone have any ideas?

I just told them we're a Business. Since their database pulls up both the owner's full name and the business name, when they send over an invoice, it shows the First and Last Name first, and then right underneath it says Tajit business.
Drew Rogers6 Drew Rogers6 Active Member
61 messages
joined Oct 2013
#1255 ·
Drew Rogers6 said:Just wanted to run this by you guys to see if I'm on the right track

We handled a transport job over in Germany for a German company. I billed them without sales tax, just added a note about the reverse charge mechanism.

The thing is, we couldn't get everything sorted on our ownโ€”it was a total messโ€”so a colleague had to jump in and help us out, and he issued us an invoice that *does* include sales tax. Is that actually okay? Thanks!

Anyone there?
vividotter912 vividotter912 Member
18 messages
joined Sep 2015
#1256 ·
vividotter912 said:I'm issuing an invoice for construction services performed in Mexico.

What exactly should I include in the notes:
the service is not taxable under Section 19 of the Tax Code, or
the tax liability is transferred per Section 19...

I know the invoice needs to be in dollars, but if I want to show the amount in euros as well, do I just use
the mid-market exchange rate?

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Matthew Mendoza9 Matthew Mendoza9 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Nov 2015
#1257 ·
Hey there!

I could really use some help here... So, we bought some tires online here in the States, but now the invoice is arriving and it shows a Canadian company listed, yet it includes a US Tax ID: HRXXXXXX
And they charged me the full 25% sales tax... I guess that means theyโ€™ve crossed the threshold for deliveries within the US.
How am I supposed to book this as a standard purchase? Do I just claim the sales tax and call it a day...? And do I need to list this separately on my tax filings??
ruggedmaker2 ruggedmaker2 Regular
469 messages
joined Mar 2018
#1258 ·
Youโ€™re booking it just like you bought it from some local US corporation since theyโ€™re already registered for tax purposes here.
Just make sure you double-check whether you can actually claim that sales tax credit or not.
Matthew Mendoza9 Matthew Mendoza9 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Nov 2015
#1259 ·
ruggedmaker2 said:Youโ€™re booking it just like you bought it from some local US corporation since theyโ€™re already registered for tax purposes here.
Just make sure you double-check whether you can actually claim that sales tax credit or not.


okay... thanks!
Ethan Bailey18 Ethan Bailey18 Active Member
80 messages
joined Oct 2015
#1260 ·
Drew Rogers6 said:Anyone there?

Invoiced to an Austrian taxpayer... reverse charge applies under Section 17.
The invoice from an American carrier to you is treated like any other domestic bill: it includes sales tax.

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