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Tax Policy Collapse: Front Page Headline from April 8, 2013

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Participants Nancy Alvarez82Morgan Rodriguez57briskdrifter3Chris Collins5Sophia Rodriguez11Amanda Allen4silentcrane11Henry Hernandez7Chris Long12Samuel Collinsvividgull10Chris Barrett37Nancy Gomez26David Parker44Noah Gray2dustymarlin10Harold Martin10Benjamin King2graniteridge31
Henry Hernandez7 Henry Hernandez7 Active Member
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#61 ·
Chris Long12 said:It really comes down to timing. Suddenly, they need liquid capital in a very short window. So, what's it going to be? More debt or higher taxes? It’s a double-edged sword, I guess.

Quincy:
2. So you're saying the government wasn't intentionally driven into the ground, but rather it happened by accident—and this has been the status quo for twenty straight years. Fine, you've made your point; I guess I'm just lucky I don't buy into those excuses.
You clearly don't recognize a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

Quincy:
4. I didn't quite catch that... are you suggesting bakers should work for free?
My personal opinion aside, by your own definition, this is clearly a conspiracy. 😉
Or maybe you think because it could apply to a whole bunch of different things, it doesn't really count.

Quincy:
5. I wasn't implying there were only 100 exporters; I was using an example where, say, before a global recession, exporters dropped from 100 to 70%, while tourism grew year after year. In the end, a global crisis for a population of 4 million means nothing, except perhaps to "incompetent" politicians.
Of course it matters, because not everyone is working in tourism. I mean, the rising unemployment numbers speak for themselves.

And until private enterprise is allowed to operate without constant federal interference, heavy-handed mandates, and red tape, nothing is going to change. Value is created first, and then it's distributed to others later.
The massive issue here is the healthcare and Social Security systems, which are basically bottomless pits that can't simply be transformed into something sustainable overnight.

1. And in America, we're choosing between taxes and loans? Hmm, funny how they seem to be pushing both at the same time, isn't it?

2. I don't even know what to say... we clearly see things differently, and I doubt either of us is going to budge.

3. Similar to my previous point, except here we aren't talking about a broad set of issues, but rather specifically how the government treats the average American.

4. This explanation is getting a bit exhausting... basically, those who don't rely on the travel industry aren't suffering because of some global recession, but because of political choices.

5. Finally, this was the answer I was waiting for, which just proves that government overreach has wrecked the economy. How much longer are you going to put up with these bad politicians?
Chris Long12 Chris Long12 Member
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#62 ·
Henry Hernandez7 said:1. And in America, we're choosing between taxes and loans? Hmm, funny how they seem to be pushing both at the same time, isn't it?

2. I don't even know what to say... we clearly see things differently, and I doubt either of us is going to budge.

3. Similar to my previous point, except here we aren't talking about a broad set of issues, but rather specifically how the government treats the average American.

4. This explanation is getting a bit exhausting... basically, those who don't rely on the travel industry aren't suffering because of some global recession, but because of political choices.

5. Finally, this was the answer I was waiting for, which just proves that government overreach has wrecked the economy. How much longer are you going to put up with these bad politicians?

I haven't claimed anything else, really. I just don't view this as some grand conspiracy, but rather just... I guess, a natural consequence of political interference.😉
Henry Hernandez7 Henry Hernandez7 Active Member
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#63 ·
Chris Long12 said:I haven't claimed anything else, really. I just don't view this as some grand conspiracy, but rather just... I guess, a natural consequence of political interference.😉

I give up... I was taught from a young age that the smart ones usually get the short end of the stick...😁🙂

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