More shameless clone lies on Alternative

Look, even though Nica confirmed that neither I nor any other users being targeted by certain individuals on Alternative are actually clones, the lies just keep flying.

http://www.reddit.com/showpost.php?p=7...ostcount=12598

Honestly, I’ve had my fill of these insinuations, insults, provocations, gossip, and attempts to humiliate me; it’s pretty obvious this person has nothing better to do with their life than obsess over this, especially since they’ve been presented with Nicin posts explicitly stating there are no clones multiple times.

This isn't his first rodeo, and rather than cluttering this space by reposting links, those can all be found in my previous thread over on the local community boards.

I actually reached out and asked him if we could settle this privately so he could offer an apology, but he shot that down, so here we are again.🙂

If he were the only one, I might just ignore him, but that's not the case. I’ve already addressed this issue in a previous thread where people were linking various posts and everything, but that topic was shut down because of fighting—which seems to be the standard operating procedure around here.

So, I’m calling on everyone else on Alternative who has dealt with this individual—and his company—being arrogant about "clones," lying, or being disrespectful; please, don't hesitate to speak up and share what you've been dealing with.

To be clear, this isn't strictly a discussion about clones; this is about the malicious fabrications and constant scheming that happen day and night on that absolute dumpster fire of a sub-forum.

I’m also appealing to the moderators to please not shut this thread down immediately, at least not until both sides have had a chance to state their case. Let's try to handle this civilly.

Honestly, I wouldn't even waste my breath on this. In my book, he just doesn't have the mental bandwidth to keep track of who's actually posting what, so in his eyes, everyone is just some mindless clone. Just look at the absolute circus he pulled last time when he tried to claim I was out here copy-pasting posts, only for it to turn out he was the one doing the exact same thing before I even started 😬.
If you look at it from a different angle, we’re talking about a GNU here, and let's be real, their capabilities are pretty damn limited...

I honestly don't see what the big deal is with that one post of mine? Like, if my writing style wasn't totally identical, it wouldn't have even crossed my mind, but it felt just like reading Brenda Gonzalez12's posts and I was being totally upfront about that. It’s super obvious all the time, but I didn't feel like bringing it up before... but now I am. And hey, look, even this other user thought that the post you wrote was actually from Brenda Gonzalez12 too

Tsina-Iti said:At first I thought Brenda Gonzalez12 wrote this, but I just realized it's a different handle...

You are lying through your teeth, seriously. Every single word. And yeah, everyone can see exactly what I wrote and what she wrote, and this whole thing where you claim I spent 20 pages attacking her in this thread is a total, blatant lie because I hadn't even joined this conversation yet. If you're gonna accuse me, why don't you go ahead and show me those posts where I supposedly attacked her? But of course you can't, because they don't exist. He was the one attacking me because I won't put up with his rude behavior, the insults, and him trashing people for no reason... plus he kept trying to kick me from the thread. Seriously, he tried to boot me from another thread too...

Can't you see that others are noticing it too? And you're still trying to kick people off the thread just like we already saw Brenda Gonzalez12 doing. So why are you acting surprised when people get suspicious when the writing style and the attitude are exactly the same?
And if my one post is such a massive problem, then fine, I'll start dropping your posts right now where you attack people by calling them clones... there are way more of yours than my one little post.. but I'll "accidentally" only post two links for now. I've got plenty more though, so I'll drop them later regardless of whether you think you have enough dirt on me.

Sandra Kern37 said:Ever since you showed up to this thread, Lleena - Lorelei, it's just been constant drama. You intentionally and deliberately pick fights with people just so you can blow things out of proportion and play the victim.

(the rest of the insults from Lleena - Lorelei can be found on that same thread, the Meta Discussion, starting on the second page)

Sandra Kern37 said:The only pathetic person in this story is you, you ignorant mess.

And you should be ashamed for making stuff up, you've been talking to me on this thread, using this account and that other one too, lying for months about me being a clone, insulting me, etc.☕

So basically, while you're attacking me for this, you're doing the exact same thing—and I've given you two examples, which is twice as much as you've done.
Now I'm asking you, and I'm asking the moderators—is it really a bigger issue when people express doubt like me and that user did in a single post, or is it the massive problem of these nasty, vile posts that pop up at least ten times a day all over this subforum, usually coming from the same handful of people?.so here are just a few recent examples

Biljka112 said:So you're basically admitting you're an idiot. Respect.

Biljka112 said:It's even funnier when some half-witted kid tries to act smart but ends up looking like a total moron.

Brenda Gonzalez12 said:Man, this clown is replying to posts from a month ago...

Brenda Gonzalez12 said:You illiterate dummy, read who actually wrote that text.

Linda Moore51 said:if that moralistic disaster @RealLife gets involved...there's no way...

Linda Moore51 said:hey idiot, whose lies? since you're typing anyway, maybe try thinking about what you're saying.

I have plenty more of these, but I'm not gonna dump them all at once.
Basically, it's always the same old story and you can see for yourselves that they're still the biggest problem on this sub...Insults, trolling, going totally off-topic and people like that who don't have a single post that actually relates to the topics at hand - NOT A SINGLE ONE - just constantly attacking others. It’s so obvious your whole profile was built just to troll on Alternative; anyone can see that if they just take a peek at your history over there - every single one of them is just aimed at picking fights and being toxic, you haven't written anything on Alternative that wasn't completely off-topic. It's the exact same deal with Linda Moore51 and Al dente, nothing but trolling and insults... if the mods just checked their posts on Alternative, everything would be crystal clear immediately.
Brenda Gonzalez12 only shows up to pick fights, and in the middle of all that bickering, they might throw in something that vaguely touches the topic, if nothing else, just to stir the pot and insult the people actually discussing the subject but you don't have a single off-topic post on the entire Alternative subforum.
And we all realized a long time ago that this constant insulting from the same group of people is the biggest issue on Alternative, and it happens because there just isn't any moderation. I'm really hoping this gets sorted out soon so things like this finally stop... I mean, I could honestly open three new threads a day here just to report insults and rule-breaking, but I just don't feel like it since I've seen that nobody ever takes action anyway; instead, the thread just gets closed, and it feels pointless to bother the mods and admins when I believe they're already trying to find a solution and we shouldn't just nag them... so I'm asking the admins to please consider finally appointing a moderator for Alternative who will strictly enforce the rules fairly for everyone, and then all of this will be fixed.

Why on earth are you lying?

Where exactly are these insults and lies you're claiming I made? Let's actually look at the evidence after six months of this, shall we?

And don't even get me started on you going off-topic; you’re one to talk about staying on subject when you’re busy bringing up sexual fantasies in a thread specifically about vaccinations.

http://www.reddit.com/showpost.php?p=7...postcount=7000
(and just to be clear, this isn't from that other thread, it's right here from the vaccination discussion)

Also, why are you twisting what I said about Lleena and Lorelei out of context? I explicitly stated that I would offer an apology if it were proven that those aren't clone accounts.

I provided you with the link to Nicin's post proving I'm not a bot, yet you still refused to apologize. Honestly, I think anyone with half a brain can see where this is going.☕

Here is a little more ammunition for the insults:

And just because I can:

Just a quick word regarding GNU. Honestly, someone who actually believes carrot juice is basically a substitute for human blood has absolutely no business lecturing anyone else on what constitutes a "constructive" post...
If you’re having trouble grasping my point, let me lay it out for you even more simply.
Every single post I make that calls out the absolute mountain of nonsense being spewed by you pseudo-alternative types is, by definition, a constructive post.
So, GNU, if you follow that logic, it means every single post we write here is constructive.

So, stormyrider28 cornered me yesterday, demanding that I drop links to my actual on-topic posts—he even specified he wanted at least one in a separate thread. His big promise? He’d actually offer an apology if I could prove I had even a single relevant contribution. Well, here we go; I went ahead and linked two. I was planning on holding out until he actually followed through on his word, but I decided to be generous. Consider this my act of charity. ☕

Truth be told, I don't really feel the need to justify my contributions to anyone, especially not him, given the aggressive, drill-sergeant tone he uses when he writes. But, just to catch stormyrider28 off guard since he clearly wasn't expecting me to actually follow his little challenge, I'll provide the links to my on-topic posts right here.

Here is his post:

stormyrider28 said:All this lying and insults should be handled elsewhere, not here. If you actually have on-topic posts, feel free to link them, and if you do, I'll apologize to you. But you don't have a single one. So why don't you go ahead and apologize to everyone else here for cluttering up this thread with your off-topic nonsense and having nothing to contribute to the actual subject matter?

Here are the requested examples of my posts (there are plenty more where those came from, but since he specifically asked for one, I'll give him two for the price of one).

Sandra Kern37 said:People keep mentioning blue-green algae in this thread and labeling them as "plants."🤣

1) Blue-green algae is a taxonomic group that was phased out due to incorrect classifications. Today, they are classified as bacteria—specifically, cyanobacteria.

2) Algae (any kind) are not plants; they don't belong to the plant kingdom. They fall under protists, specifically autotrophic protists. Being a plant is one thing, but being a transitional form toward plants is something entirely different.

So, there's a little lesson in biology for those interested. 🕺

Sandra Kern37 said:Since when is a human considered a carnivore? Or a herbivore?

Biologically speaking, humans are defined as omnivores. If you doubt it, just look at human dental structure and compare it to any animal that is strictly a carnivore, and the difference will be obvious.

So, stormyrider28, where is that apology? ☕

stormyrider28 said:I honestly don't see what the big deal is with that one post of mine? Like, if my writing style wasn't totally identical, it wouldn't have even crossed my mind, but it felt just like reading Brenda Gonzalez12's posts and I was being totally upfront about that. It’s super obvious all the time, but I didn't feel like bringing it up before... but now I am. And hey, look, even this other user thought that the post you wrote was actually from Brenda Gonzalez12 too

Can't you see that others are noticing it too? And you're still trying to kick people off the thread just like we already saw Brenda Gonzalez12 doing. So why are you acting surprised when people get suspicious when the writing style and the attitude are exactly the same?
And if my one post is such a massive problem, then fine, I'll start dropping your posts right now where you attack people by calling them clones... there are way more of yours than my one little post.. but I'll "accidentally" only post two links for now. I've got plenty more though, so I'll drop them later regardless of whether you think you have enough dirt on me.

So basically, while you're attacking me for this, you're doing the exact same thing—and I've given you two examples, which is twice as much as you've done.
Now I'm asking you, and I'm asking the moderators—is it really a bigger issue when people express doubt like me and that user did in a single post, or is it the massive problem of these nasty, vile posts that pop up at least ten times a day all over this subforum, usually coming from the same handful of people?.so here are just a few recent examples

I have plenty more of these, but I'm not gonna dump them all at once.
Basically, it's always the same old story and you can see for yourselves that they're still the biggest problem on this sub...Insults, trolling, going totally off-topic and people like that who don't have a single post that actually relates to the topics at hand - NOT A SINGLE ONE - just constantly attacking others. It’s so obvious your whole profile was built just to troll on Alternative; anyone can see that if they just take a peek at your history over there - every single one of them is just aimed at picking fights and being toxic, you haven't written anything on Alternative that wasn't completely off-topic. It's the exact same deal with Linda Moore51 and Al dente, nothing but trolling and insults... if the mods just checked their posts on Alternative, everything would be crystal clear immediately.
Brenda Gonzalez12 only shows up to pick fights, and in the middle of all that bickering, they might throw in something that vaguely touches the topic, if nothing else, just to stir the pot and insult the people actually discussing the subject but you don't have a single off-topic post on the entire Alternative subforum.
And we all realized a long time ago that this constant insulting from the same group of people is the biggest issue on Alternative, and it happens because there just isn't any moderation. I'm really hoping this gets sorted out soon so things like this finally stop... I mean, I could honestly open three new threads a day here just to report insults and rule-breaking, but I just don't feel like it since I've seen that nobody ever takes action anyway; instead, the thread just gets closed, and it feels pointless to bother the mods and admins when I believe they're already trying to find a solution and we shouldn't just nag them... so I'm asking the admins to please consider finally appointing a moderator for Alternative who will strictly enforce the rules fairly for everyone, and then all of this will be fixed.

Honestly, I was holding off on jumping in because I didn't want to give you an excuse to team up and destroy the thread again, just like you did to Sandra Kern37.
But now, I am genuinely curious about something.
Show me exactly where I supposedly bullied some random female user (who is clearly a fake profile) off this thread. Drop the link, but don't cherry-pick quotes—you know, that nasty little habit you have where you insult people's families, kids, and relatives, and then act all surprised when people snap back at you for being totally unprovoked. Just post the whole thing.
Let's get everything out in the open for everyone to see.

You guys have been claiming for MONTHS that we're all part of some hive mind—me, Sandra Kern37, Linda Moore51, Al Dente, nsvoj, SusFerox, Biljka112, 7nationarmy, Hepoks2, antet, Jessica Morris6, and whoever else you claim are just "clones" sent by one or two people to ruin your discussions. You hide behind your "ignore lists," yet you can't help but jump in to reply to those exact people, effectively killing any conversation where you aren't getting the attention you crave.
Meanwhile, every once in a while, these profiles that haven't posted since 2015 or 2016 suddenly "resurrect" just to swoop into threads and start insulting and provoking people, acting like we were all screaming insults at them yesterday.

And that doesn't bother you? Are those your profiles too, stormyrider28? Is that "dim-witted cousin" of yours—the person who, according to YOUR description, lives in the 21st century but is somehow blind as a bat, doesn't even know her own prescription, won't wear glasses, refuses to see an eye doctor, but suddenly "sees perfectly" thanks to some miraculous healing from "exercises" altruistically provided by Elizabeth Jackson—is she a real person? Just imagine being so "slow" that you can't go to a doctor or even open a profile to ask a question, but you'll take advice from a total stranger and suddenly experience a "miracle cure." That’s your level, stormyrider28. And when it becomes obvious that your story is full of holes and logical fallacies, and that it's easy to prove this person DOESN'T exist, you just pivot to attacking us, claiming "clones" are after you (because heaven forbid more than one person notices you're talking nonsense).
Is the "overweight brother" of our friend Tsine-Iti—who desperately wants to lose weight but apparently can't open a profile to seek advice on any nutrition site except for Alternative—actually real? He can't eat this or that, but he'll take advice on regular enemas or switching to smoothies (which he flat-out rejects just two days later). Then, this female user starts aggressively boosting her post count in the chat, but when she shows up in a thread, she lashes out at anyone offering advice, claiming she can "judge for herself" (she explicitly says she isn't interested in raw food, yet three different users suggest raw food post after post, and when called out, she suddenly turns on them, calling "raw foodists" names, saying meat "STINKS," is "carcinogenic," "toxic," and so on, while they actually suggest combining meat and vegetables as a superfood for weight loss). She treats it like some "enlightenment" and brags about the idea, then spits on and insults the very users who point out that the people giving her advice are the ones who usually shun that lifestyle.

Those are the facts, stormyrider28. Plain and simple. Regarding these weird "profiles" popping up here...
And no, it's not "clones" attacking you; you're accusing others simply because that's how your mind works, and because you use clones yourselves to troll threads. 👎👎

Brenda Gonzalez12 said:Honestly, I was holding off on jumping in because I didn't want to give you an excuse to team up and destroy the thread again, just like you did to Sandra Kern37.
But now, I am genuinely curious about something.
Show me exactly where I supposedly bullied some random female user (who is clearly a fake profile) off this thread. Drop the link, but don't cherry-pick quotes—you know, that nasty little habit you have where you insult people's families, kids, and relatives, and then act all surprised when people snap back at you for being totally unprovoked. Just post the whole thing.
Let's get everything out in the open for everyone to see.

You guys have been claiming for MONTHS that we're all part of some hive mind—me, Sandra Kern37, Linda Moore51, Al Dente, nsvoj, SusFerox, Biljka112, 7nationarmy, Hepoks2, antet, Jessica Morris6, and whoever else you claim are just "clones" sent by one or two people to ruin your discussions. You hide behind your "ignore lists," yet you can't help but jump in to reply to those exact people, effectively killing any conversation where you aren't getting the attention you crave.
Meanwhile, every once in a while, these profiles that haven't posted since 2015 or 2016 suddenly "resurrect" just to swoop into threads and start insulting and provoking people, acting like we were all screaming insults at them yesterday.

And that doesn't bother you? Are those your profiles too, stormyrider28? Is that "dim-witted cousin" of yours—the person who, according to YOUR description, lives in the 21st century but is somehow blind as a bat, doesn't even know her own prescription, won't wear glasses, refuses to see an eye doctor, but suddenly "sees perfectly" thanks to some miraculous healing from "exercises" altruistically provided by Elizabeth Jackson—is she a real person? Just imagine being so "slow" that you can't go to a doctor or even open a profile to ask a question, but you'll take advice from a total stranger and suddenly experience a "miracle cure." That’s your level, stormyrider28. And when it becomes obvious that your story is full of holes and logical fallacies, and that it's easy to prove this person DOESN'T exist, you just pivot to attacking us, claiming "clones" are after you (because heaven forbid more than one person notices you're talking nonsense).
Is the "overweight brother" of our friend Tsine-Iti—who desperately wants to lose weight but apparently can't open a profile to seek advice on any nutrition site except for Alternative—actually real? He can't eat this or that, but he'll take advice on regular enemas or switching to smoothies (which he flat-out rejects just two days later). Then, this female user starts aggressively boosting her post count in the chat, but when she shows up in a thread, she lashes out at anyone offering advice, claiming she can "judge for herself" (she explicitly says she isn't interested in raw food, yet three different users suggest raw food post after post, and when called out, she suddenly turns on them, calling "raw foodists" names, saying meat "STINKS," is "carcinogenic," "toxic," and so on, while they actually suggest combining meat and vegetables as a superfood for weight loss). She treats it like some "enlightenment" and brags about the idea, then spits on and insults the very users who point out that the people giving her advice are the ones who usually shun that lifestyle.

Those are the facts, stormyrider28. Plain and simple. Regarding these weird "profiles" popping up here...
And no, it's not "clones" attacking you; you're accusing others simply because that's how your mind works, and because you use clones yourselves to troll threads. 👎👎

🤣 🤣 😁

You people over at Alternative are way more entertaining than Big Brother. 🙏

stormyrider28 said:I honestly don't see what the big deal is with that one post of mine? Like, if my writing style wasn't totally identical, it wouldn't have even crossed my mind, but it felt just like reading Brenda Gonzalez12's posts and I was being totally upfront about that. It’s super obvious all the time, but I didn't feel like bringing it up before... but now I am. And hey, look, even this other user thought that the post you wrote was actually from Brenda Gonzalez12 too

Can't you see that others are noticing it too? And you're still trying to kick people off the thread just like we already saw Brenda Gonzalez12 doing. So why are you acting surprised when people get suspicious when the writing style and the attitude are exactly the same?
And if my one post is such a massive problem, then fine, I'll start dropping your posts right now where you attack people by calling them clones... there are way more of yours than my one little post.. but I'll "accidentally" only post two links for now. I've got plenty more though, so I'll drop them later regardless of whether you think you have enough dirt on me.

So basically, while you're attacking me for this, you're doing the exact same thing—and I've given you two examples, which is twice as much as you've done.
Now I'm asking you, and I'm asking the moderators—is it really a bigger issue when people express doubt like me and that user did in a single post, or is it the massive problem of these nasty, vile posts that pop up at least ten times a day all over this subforum, usually coming from the same handful of people?.so here are just a few recent examples

I have plenty more of these, but I'm not gonna dump them all at once.
Basically, it's always the same old story and you can see for yourselves that they're still the biggest problem on this sub...Insults, trolling, going totally off-topic and people like that who don't have a single post that actually relates to the topics at hand - NOT A SINGLE ONE - just constantly attacking others. It’s so obvious your whole profile was built just to troll on Alternative; anyone can see that if they just take a peek at your history over there - every single one of them is just aimed at picking fights and being toxic, you haven't written anything on Alternative that wasn't completely off-topic. It's the exact same deal with Linda Moore51 and Al dente, nothing but trolling and insults... if the mods just checked their posts on Alternative, everything would be crystal clear immediately.
Brenda Gonzalez12 only shows up to pick fights, and in the middle of all that bickering, they might throw in something that vaguely touches the topic, if nothing else, just to stir the pot and insult the people actually discussing the subject but you don't have a single off-topic post on the entire Alternative subforum.
And we all realized a long time ago that this constant insulting from the same group of people is the biggest issue on Alternative, and it happens because there just isn't any moderation. I'm really hoping this gets sorted out soon so things like this finally stop... I mean, I could honestly open three new threads a day here just to report insults and rule-breaking, but I just don't feel like it since I've seen that nobody ever takes action anyway; instead, the thread just gets closed, and it feels pointless to bother the mods and admins when I believe they're already trying to find a solution and we shouldn't just nag them... so I'm asking the admins to please consider finally appointing a moderator for Alternative who will strictly enforce the rules fairly for everyone, and then all of this will be fixed.

That "forum girl" is basically spinning fairy tales for toddlers at this point.

Honestly, what that woman thinks carries absolutely zero weight with me. And if you're wondering why, let me lay it out for you.

One day she drifted into the thread, playing this part where she was totally uninterested in any kind of drama, acting like she just wanted some friendly advice for a family member. But then, just to... She played the part of the neutral bystander perfectly. To everyone's shock, she started firing shots from both sides of the fence. She had been tearing apart Elizabeth Jackson’s methods, acting like they were completely beneath her, only to have this sudden, miraculous epiphany where she realizes his approach is actually pretty brilliant—so much so that her brother is planning to start following them himself.

So then it was... It looks like the hunt is officially on. Some of the users here—Brenda Gonzalez12, for instance—were basically treating people like punching bags, just relentlessly jumping down their throats.

Oh, please. Now suddenly this same "forum regular"—who supposedly couldn't care less about any kind of drama or conflict—has transformed herself into some kind of internet martyr and local hero overnight. Honestly, the rest of the story is as predictable as a rerun on basic cable.

And since I already know you’re going to jump down my throat with some predictable line like, "Oh, so you only came to Reddit to pick fights," I figured I'd just get ahead of the curve. Let me save us both the breath: I actually joined this community to read and learn about different dietary lifestyles—for instance, getting a handle on the whole raw food thing.

And do you have any idea, my dear friends, what actually awaited me in that thread—and honestly, on this entire sub—once I finally decided to dive in?

What a complete waste of time.

From the very first day I stepped foot in this place, it’s been nothing but insults, blatant lies, and straight-up slander.

The only kind of "wisdom" you can actually pick up in a place like that is stuff like this:
☕

Lleena on plant consciousness:

Lleena The user said:😲 Wait, what? Are we really doing this? Give me a second to catch up here.

People just don't seem to grasp it, but honestly... If you really think about it, plants probably sit at the absolute peak of the consciousness hierarchy. Think about it: animals just exist in this state of constant, unconditional love while literally sustaining our entire existence. They live entirely in the moment, overflowing with affection and finding genuine joy in the smallest possible things. They seem to have this permanent, direct line to some higher spiritual plane, just completely surrendered to the flow of life, moving exactly how the universe guides them. It’s only after you look at that kind of existence that you can even begin to make sense of humans.
You’d have to be incredibly self-centered and completely devoid of empathy to actually believe the opposite.

These kinds of beliefs really stem from this deep-seated conviction we have that intelligence—specifically that narrow, academic kind used to ace IQ tests and solve those little logic puzzles—is the absolute peak of consciousness. But honestly, if you look at it closely, being constantly stuck in that loop of analytical overthinking actually pulls a person away from true awareness. It creates this dependency on pure logic that distances us from actually experiencing life and grasping truth in its most direct, visceral sense. Instead of expanding our perspective, all that constant mental processing just ends up shrinking our sense of consciousness.

It’s honestly hilarious to watch how people spend years obsessing over meditation, all in some desperate attempt to reach an "animalistic" state of being, when they could probably just go take a hike in the Rocky Mountains or sit in a park for twenty minutes and get the same result. If someone actually managed to ascend to the level of plant consciousness, we’d probably just call that enlightenment.

GNU, just shut down that computer and go outside to play some ball for a bit...

Sandra Kern37 said:Why on earth are you lying?

Where exactly are these insults and lies you're claiming I made? Let's actually look at the evidence after six months of this, shall we?

And don't even get me started on you going off-topic; you’re one to talk about staying on subject when you’re busy bringing up sexual fantasies in a thread specifically about vaccinations.

http://www.reddit.com/showpost.php?p=7...postcount=7000
(and just to be clear, this isn't from that other thread, it's right here from the vaccination discussion)

Also, why are you twisting what I said about Lleena and Lorelei out of context? I explicitly stated that I would offer an apology if it were proven that those aren't clone accounts.

I provided you with the link to Nicin's post proving I'm not a bot, yet you still refused to apologize. Honestly, I think anyone with half a brain can see where this is going.☕

They won't be able to prove a thing because there aren't any links provided.
But oh, I'm sure "the informant" will show up tonight to drop "hundreds" of collected posts that he "usually misses" (but somehow meticulously saves just to spit on people whenever it suits him), along with that rude lady, and then the whole thread will just go down the drain.

Just look at how our friend GNU is writing about clones in a thread meant for raw food

stormyrider28 said:Hehehe, looks like the multi-troll exposed himself again... Lorelei made a great point, seriously, kudos to her... This one-trick pony even said yesterday he was heading to the Rocky Mountains and then to the beach, acting like he couldn't care less about us... and just a month ago, according to his profile, he claimed he was going hiking for a week, and sure enough, he vanished for that entire week. And wouldn't you know it, Brenda Gonzalez12 disappeared during that exact same window too. Neither of you showed even a hint of life on the forum during those weeks... talk about "coincidences," right?Or maybe you two are just so crazy about each other that you were busy cuddling away somewhere?
Now you're probably going to start foaming at the mouth once you're caught, or maybe you'll try to claim that Lorelei is sending messages to your grandma... honestly, have some shame, let everyone see what a mess you really are...

The "beautiful, wonderful, vibrant raw food enthusiast" in all his glory. 🤦 🤦

It’s actually quite interesting to observe that ever since Alternative stopped being moderated and just became this cesspool of insults and trolling, only two people have even bothered to request a profile verification for themselves—and honestly, they were both already suspected of being clones of Brenda Gonzalez12, namely Jednoumlje and Sandra Kern37...
It also seems like these same individuals are constantly demanding verifications for others, simply because someone happens to disagree with their specific worldview.

It might be worth giving that some thought...

But then again, I suppose it isn't much of a surprise; we see plenty of people with similar writing styles... hell, sometimes even identical ones... appearing on our feeds all the time. 😁

Elizabeth Jackson said:It’s actually quite interesting to observe that ever since Alternative stopped being moderated and just became this cesspool of insults and trolling, only two people have even bothered to request a profile verification for themselves—and honestly, they were both already suspected of being clones of Brenda Gonzalez12, namely Jednoumlje and Sandra Kern37...
It also seems like these same individuals are constantly demanding verifications for others, simply because someone happens to disagree with their specific worldview.

It might be worth giving that some thought...

But then again, I suppose it isn't much of a surprise; we see plenty of people with similar writing styles... hell, sometimes even identical ones... appearing on our feeds all the time. 😁

And there he is! Our little insecure Narcissus has finally emerged!!! Nobody is talking about him, nobody is giving him any credit, his threads have gone totally off the rails, and since he's been exposed as nothing more than an aggressive ridiculous charlatan who won't stop rambling, he just had to jump in and make himself heard.

Maybe you "noble IT experts"—you know, the ones busy prepping "hundreds" of "invisible posts" from the people you keep on your ignore lists—could do us all a massive favor on Reddit? Could you prove to everyone that this entire list of people you're ignoring is actually just one single person? Give it a shot! Hehehe. Besides, you always talk about "us," which really just means you and your handful of clone accounts.
Because honestly, everything else regarding your "Alternative" is, if you'll excuse my language, a total mess.
😂 😂 🙂 🙂🙂

Sandra Kern37 said:Why on earth are you lying?

Where exactly are these insults and lies you're claiming I made? Let's actually look at the evidence after six months of this, shall we?

And don't even get me started on you going off-topic; you’re one to talk about staying on subject when you’re busy bringing up sexual fantasies in a thread specifically about vaccinations.

http://www.reddit.com/showpost.php?p=7...postcount=7000
(and just to be clear, this isn't from that other thread, it's right here from the vaccination discussion)

Also, why are you twisting what I said about Lleena and Lorelei out of context? I explicitly stated that I would offer an apology if it were proven that those aren't clone accounts.

I provided you with the link to Nicin's post proving I'm not a bot, yet you still refused to apologize. Honestly, I think anyone with half a brain can see where this is going.☕

Alright, let me start by laying out a few lies...

Sandra Kern37 The user said:Wait, so you're actually implying that I'm lying? Seriously...?

Seriously, how do you even have the nerve?...I mean, seriously... just straight up lying right in front of everyone? Like, there's no hiding it when you're being that shady, especially since everybody can see exactly what you sent him... it’s just messy...

Take a look back at the last 20 pages of this thread and that other Nutrition one... seriously, just scroll through... you'll see exactly what I mean. It's pretty obvious you're just picking on him for every single thing he says...

So, here's a look at what your pure stuff actually looks like... Lies... just total lies everywhere you look... honestly, it’s getting to be a bit much sometimes... everything feels so filtered and fake lately... turns out nothing is ever quite what it seems on the surface... stays with you, though... how you can trust anyone when everyone is just playing a part... it's wild... So, about that forum girl you're accusing of going after Brenda Gonzalez12... she hasn't actually been attacking her for the last 20 pages of this thread... Whatever he says goes... honestly... just taking everything he says at face value... Total lie and complete nonsense. She wasn't even present in this thread twenty pages ago... she barely even had a handful of posts on this topic to begin with...
She wasn't even the one attacking him... it was actually the total opposite. He was coming at her hard. Honestly, after just a few messages once she even joined the thread without any reason at all, he started claiming she was some kind of bot or clone... just totally out of nowhere...
Here’s the proof...

Brenda Gonzalez12 The user said:Oooooh, look who finally stepped out of the shadows... a clone has been exposed! You didn't last that long, did you? After grinding through like 200 posts in those private chat threads, here you go... finally making it out into the public eye at last...

Brenda Gonzalez12 said:Does my family or my life have anything to do with this whole situation regarding your brother?... Honestly... it feels like none of that should even be part of the conversation... Interesting clones... Honestly, that was just way too premature and, let's be real, kind of a brainless move on your part...

Brenda Gonzalez12 said:Oh my god, just grab a smoothie and go... honestly, if you just let it rip after drinking one, that’s your weight loss and detox all in one go. What a total jerk. Is it really that pathetic?... First one, then the next clone......

So... So, Brenda Gonzalez12 actually dropped three separate accusations claiming someone was a clone, and you didn't even bother to report it here...Man, I honestly can't believe you missed that... like, seriously? So, I’m posting this right here just to set the record straight. It's wild how some people have the nerve to point fingers at everyone else for doing the exact same thing they're out there doing even more often... it's just ridiculous...

So you’re really gonna sit there and grill me about my lies? Fine... if that's how we're playing this... here's another one coming straight from you...

Sandra Kern37 The user said:You clearly don't get me... You say you don't care about bickering or getting into heated debates with Brenda Gonzalez12, yet at least twice a week, you end up dropping a whole damn dissertation on everything he posts... ☕

That’s just another one of your lies... honestly, it’s pure fiction at this point. If you actually think otherwise, then go ahead... feel free to quote a few of them if you really want to try... Those "dissertations" she was supposedly cranking out for Brenda Gonzalez12 on a weekly basis... Because that’s just a straight-up lie. I’ve been following this thread, and when it first popped up a few days ago, she only replied to him twice... mostly because he was being totally unprovoked and just straight-up insulting her. After that, she basically just stopped acknowledging him altogether, but... She’s still coming at her with everything she’s got... just won't let it go... So, he went after her again today for absolutely no reason at all... even though she’s completely ignoring him, he just won't let it go. He's attacking her out of nowhere, just pure aggression for the sake of it, and now he's back at it again with those ridiculous claims that she's some kind of clone... honestly, it's just getting old...

Hey everyone... just wanted to jump in here and share some thoughts on what we were talking about earlier... honestly, there’s so much to unpack with this whole situation... I’ve been sitting here thinking about it all morning while grabbing my coffee... and yeah, I totally see where you're coming from... but also, maybe we should look at it from a different angle? Just a thought... anyway, I'll try to keep this somewhat coherent, though no promises... lol... turns out things aren't always as simple as they seem on the surface... especially when you start digging into the details... let me know if that makes sense... or if I'm just rambling now... stay tuned... says:
Ooo... Wait, hold on... what exactly are we talking about here? You just dropped one word and left me hanging... Are we diving into some deep sci-fi rabbit hole or is this about something else entirely? I need a little more context to really get my head around where you're going with this... Give me something to work with! She finally woke up...
So, you know how it goes... they’ll hang around the chat for a bit, racking up enough posts to look like they actually belong, and then suddenly they’re gonna get "serious." Like, they'll jump right into a deep thread about raw food just to drop a single comment saying they could never actually do it... typical... 😵
And she’d probably start counting everyone else's posts just to troll the whole thread... honestly...

How on earth did you not report this here, Sandra Kern37...?

Sandra Kern37 said:Why on earth are you lying?

Where exactly are these insults and lies you're claiming I made? Let's actually look at the evidence after six months of this, shall we?

And don't even get me started on you going off-topic; you’re one to talk about staying on subject when you’re busy bringing up sexual fantasies in a thread specifically about vaccinations.

http://www.reddit.com/showpost.php?p=7...postcount=7000
(and just to be clear, this isn't from that other thread, it's right here from the vaccination discussion)

Also, why are you twisting what I said about Lleena and Lorelei out of context? I explicitly stated that I would offer an apology if it were proven that those aren't clone accounts.

I provided you with the link to Nicin's post proving I'm not a bot, yet you still refused to apologize. Honestly, I think anyone with half a brain can see where this is going.☕

Oh man... don't even get me started. Now that I’ve actually dropped the receipts showing you were out here telling everyone they were just clones, suddenly you're playing the "you're taking my words out of context" card? Seriously? Like, come on... Just answer the question: did you call them all the same person or not?
Look, I didn't take anything out of context... if anything, you're the one twisting my words from that vaccination thread where I was clearly just messing around. But now you're straight-up accusing people of being clones? That's exactly what you're doing to everyone else, and honestly, opening up an entire debate like this over that is just too much. You really should feel a little embarrassed about that...
Here are two more examples where you were out here calling people clones...

Sandra Kern37 said:Look, look... Lleena - Lorelei So now she's gone and become a physicist too...

Sandra Kern37 said:Just keep on copying until you hit the limit... Lleena - LoreleiHonestly, it doesn't bother me at all...

Sandra Kern37 said:Why on earth are you lying?

Where exactly are these insults and lies you're claiming I made? Let's actually look at the evidence after six months of this, shall we?

And don't even get me started on you going off-topic; you’re one to talk about staying on subject when you’re busy bringing up sexual fantasies in a thread specifically about vaccinations.

http://www.reddit.com/showpost.php?p=7...postcount=7000
(and just to be clear, this isn't from that other thread, it's right here from the vaccination discussion)

Also, why are you twisting what I said about Lleena and Lorelei out of context? I explicitly stated that I would offer an apology if it were proven that those aren't clone accounts.

I provided you with the link to Nicin's post proving I'm not a bot, yet you still refused to apologize. Honestly, I think anyone with half a brain can see where this is going.☕

That’s all really sweet and thanks for the link, seriously... but man, you gotta look at what Brenda Gonzalez12 just posted today about those clones...

Brenda Gonzalez12 said:Honestly, the guy is just a pathological liar with a massive Narcissus complex... like, every single sentence he types starts with "I" or "me"... it's exhausting. And get this—I’m pretty sure he’s running at least a few different profiles to keep up the act here... But then they’re sitting there controlling everything... which device they’re using, what name they’re posting under... all just to make sure they don't get caught...

So, he did a pretty decent job describing himself there, but honestly, what you can really see from this whole thing is that... Hey Brenda Gonzalez12... you actually know how to pull off the whole "secretly a clone" thing, don't you?...

Alright, here’s a slightly longer list with all the updated values...

Brenda Gonzalez12 said:And there he is! Our little insecure Narcissus has finally emerged!!! Nobody is talking about him, nobody is giving him any credit, his threads have gone totally off the rails, and since he's been exposed as nothing more than an aggressive ridiculous charlatan who won't stop rambling, he just had to jump in and make himself heard.

Maybe you "noble IT experts"—you know, the ones busy prepping "hundreds" of "invisible posts" from the people you keep on your ignore lists—could do us all a massive favor on Reddit? Could you prove to everyone that this entire list of people you're ignoring is actually just one single person? Give it a shot! Hehehe. Besides, you always talk about "us," which really just means you and your handful of clone accounts.
Because honestly, everything else regarding your "Alternative" is, if you'll excuse my language, a total mess.
😂 😂 🙂 🙂🙂

Honestly, since nobody is even mentioning you, why'd you bother showing up? You think you have some special VIP rights to the Forum or something? See, everything you just said about him actually describes you perfectly—everyone sees right through you. You're just an aggressive guy who insults people and trolls threads specifically to mess with folks you clearly can't stand. You really should be embarrassed.
By the way, calling him a "little insecure Narcissus" is just a cheap shot... because if someone said that to you, you'd be running to start a massive drama thread immediately, crying and whining to anyone who'd listen..

stormyrider28 said:Honestly, since nobody is even mentioning you, why'd you bother showing up? You think you have some special VIP rights to the Forum or something? See, everything you just said about him actually describes you perfectly—everyone sees right through you. You're just an aggressive guy who insults people and trolls threads specifically to mess with folks you clearly can't stand. You really should be embarrassed.
By the way, calling him a "little insecure Narcissus" is just a cheap shot... because if someone said that to you, you'd be running to start a massive drama thread immediately, crying and whining to anyone who'd listen..

I stepped in because it’s obvious you’re obsessed with my username. It's honestly getting weird—borderline psychotic. Out of 900 posts, you’ve mentioned me in 880 of them! You’ve gone around telling every single one of these ten people that they’re just clones of me. At this point, anyone would think you've lost your grip on reality. 🤦🤦
Look, if you're gay, that's your business, but I'm not, I don't feel that way about men, so go find someone else to bother. Apparently, Elizabeth Jackson loves being treated that way, so why don't you two go play together? You could head down to a local festival or something and just mess around. Regardless, you've been trolling these threads for three months straight, ruining everything with constant off-topic nonsense.
Seriously, where is your sense of shame?

stormyrider28 said:Alright, let me start by laying out a few lies...

So, here's a look at what your pure stuff actually looks like... Lies... just total lies everywhere you look... honestly, it’s getting to be a bit much sometimes... everything feels so filtered and fake lately... turns out nothing is ever quite what it seems on the surface... stays with you, though... how you can trust anyone when everyone is just playing a part... it's wild... So, about that forum girl you're accusing of going after Brenda Gonzalez12... she hasn't actually been attacking her for the last 20 pages of this thread... Whatever he says goes... honestly... just taking everything he says at face value... Total lie and complete nonsense. She wasn't even present in this thread twenty pages ago... she barely even had a handful of posts on this topic to begin with...
She wasn't even the one attacking him... it was actually the total opposite. He was coming at her hard. Honestly, after just a few messages once she even joined the thread without any reason at all, he started claiming she was some kind of bot or clone... just totally out of nowhere...
Here’s the proof...

So... So, Brenda Gonzalez12 actually dropped three separate accusations claiming someone was a clone, and you didn't even bother to report it here...Man, I honestly can't believe you missed that... like, seriously? So, I’m posting this right here just to set the record straight. It's wild how some people have the nerve to point fingers at everyone else for doing the exact same thing they're out there doing even more often... it's just ridiculous...

So you’re really gonna sit there and grill me about my lies? Fine... if that's how we're playing this... here's another one coming straight from you...

That’s just another one of your lies... honestly, it’s pure fiction at this point. If you actually think otherwise, then go ahead... feel free to quote a few of them if you really want to try... Those "dissertations" she was supposedly cranking out for Brenda Gonzalez12 on a weekly basis... Because that’s just a straight-up lie. I’ve been following this thread, and when it first popped up a few days ago, she only replied to him twice... mostly because he was being totally unprovoked and just straight-up insulting her. After that, she basically just stopped acknowledging him altogether, but... She’s still coming at her with everything she’s got... just won't let it go... So, he went after her again today for absolutely no reason at all... even though she’s completely ignoring him, he just won't let it go. He's attacking her out of nowhere, just pure aggression for the sake of it, and now he's back at it again with those ridiculous claims that she's some kind of clone... honestly, it's just getting old...

Hey everyone... just wanted to jump in here and share some thoughts on what we were talking about earlier... honestly, there’s so much to unpack with this whole situation... I’ve been sitting here thinking about it all morning while grabbing my coffee... and yeah, I totally see where you're coming from... but also, maybe we should look at it from a different angle? Just a thought... anyway, I'll try to keep this somewhat coherent, though no promises... lol... turns out things aren't always as simple as they seem on the surface... especially when you start digging into the details... let me know if that makes sense... or if I'm just rambling now... stay tuned... says:
Ooo... Wait, hold on... what exactly are we talking about here? You just dropped one word and left me hanging... Are we diving into some deep sci-fi rabbit hole or is this about something else entirely? I need a little more context to really get my head around where you're going with this... Give me something to work with! She finally woke up...
So, you know how it goes... they’ll hang around the chat for a bit, racking up enough posts to look like they actually belong, and then suddenly they’re gonna get "serious." Like, they'll jump right into a deep thread about raw food just to drop a single comment saying they could never actually do it... typical... 😵
And she’d probably start counting everyone else's posts just to troll the whole thread... honestly...

How on earth did you not report this here, Sandra Kern37...?

Oh man... don't even get me started. Now that I’ve actually dropped the receipts showing you were out here telling everyone they were just clones, suddenly you're playing the "you're taking my words out of context" card? Seriously? Like, come on... Just answer the question: did you call them all the same person or not?
Look, I didn't take anything out of context... if anything, you're the one twisting my words from that vaccination thread where I was clearly just messing around. But now you're straight-up accusing people of being clones? That's exactly what you're doing to everyone else, and honestly, opening up an entire debate like this over that is just too much. You really should feel a little embarrassed about that...
Here are two more examples where you were out here calling people clones...

That’s all really sweet and thanks for the link, seriously... but man, you gotta look at what Brenda Gonzalez12 just posted today about those clones...

So, he did a pretty decent job describing himself there, but honestly, what you can really see from this whole thing is that... Hey Brenda Gonzalez12... you actually know how to pull off the whole "secretly a clone" thing, don't you?...

Alright, here’s a slightly longer list with all the updated values...

I'm lying?

Honestly, have you no shame? This isn't even the first time you've been exposed on the main forum, and yet you still have the audacity to lecture me.

I owe you no explanation, and I certainly won't stoop to your level by making excuses for myself to someone like you.

Yes, I have stated a few times that I believe Leena and Lorelei are the same person. However, I also said I would retract it if it turned out my assumption was wrong.

So, the difference between us is this:

I made an assumption that Leena and Lorelei were the same person. On the other hand, you, nearly three weeks after Elizabeth Jackson confirmed I am not a clone, continue to lie and troll threads claiming that I actually am.

I already told you I would apologize to both of them if I was proven wrong.

Something that can't be said about you. You are not a man of your word.
Despite the evidence, you refuse to apologize.

Now, even though you don't deserve it, I've linked at least one on-topic post for you. You were so certain I didn't have a single one like it. And yet, once again, you haven't apologized.

That's all there is to it. ☕

EDIT: As for that Tsina-Iti situation you were so worked up about defending—honestly, I’ve said my piece. Any further commentary regarding that individual is just noise at this point.

Hey there, fellow Alternative fans. What’s everyone thinking about how PŽK keeps constantly messing with the audience using their garbage tactics? Are you guys actually aiming to shut down Alternative or just target PŽK?
Look, I’m not against anyone here, and I definitely don't want to see Alternative shut down. I just want to know what the end game is so I can figure out where to put my support.

stormyrider28 said:Alright, let me start by laying out a few lies...

So, here's a look at what your pure stuff actually looks like... Lies... just total lies everywhere you look... honestly, it’s getting to be a bit much sometimes... everything feels so filtered and fake lately... turns out nothing is ever quite what it seems on the surface... stays with you, though... how you can trust anyone when everyone is just playing a part... it's wild... So, about that forum girl you're accusing of going after Brenda Gonzalez12... she hasn't actually been attacking her for the last 20 pages of this thread... Whatever he says goes... honestly... just taking everything he says at face value... Total lie and complete nonsense. She wasn't even present in this thread twenty pages ago... she barely even had a handful of posts on this topic to begin with...
She wasn't even the one attacking him... it was actually the total opposite. He was coming at her hard. Honestly, after just a few messages once she even joined the thread without any reason at all, he started claiming she was some kind of bot or clone... just totally out of nowhere...
Here’s the proof...

So... So, Brenda Gonzalez12 actually dropped three separate accusations claiming someone was a clone, and you didn't even bother to report it here...Man, I honestly can't believe you missed that... like, seriously? So, I’m posting this right here just to set the record straight. It's wild how some people have the nerve to point fingers at everyone else for doing the exact same thing they're out there doing even more often... it's just ridiculous...

So you’re really gonna sit there and grill me about my lies? Fine... if that's how we're playing this... here's another one coming straight from you...

That’s just another one of your lies... honestly, it’s pure fiction at this point. If you actually think otherwise, then go ahead... feel free to quote a few of them if you really want to try... Those "dissertations" she was supposedly cranking out for Brenda Gonzalez12 on a weekly basis... Because that’s just a straight-up lie. I’ve been following this thread, and when it first popped up a few days ago, she only replied to him twice... mostly because he was being totally unprovoked and just straight-up insulting her. After that, she basically just stopped acknowledging him altogether, but... She’s still coming at her with everything she’s got... just won't let it go... So, he went after her again today for absolutely no reason at all... even though she’s completely ignoring him, he just won't let it go. He's attacking her out of nowhere, just pure aggression for the sake of it, and now he's back at it again with those ridiculous claims that she's some kind of clone... honestly, it's just getting old...

Hey everyone... just wanted to jump in here and share some thoughts on what we were talking about earlier... honestly, there’s so much to unpack with this whole situation... I’ve been sitting here thinking about it all morning while grabbing my coffee... and yeah, I totally see where you're coming from... but also, maybe we should look at it from a different angle? Just a thought... anyway, I'll try to keep this somewhat coherent, though no promises... lol... turns out things aren't always as simple as they seem on the surface... especially when you start digging into the details... let me know if that makes sense... or if I'm just rambling now... stay tuned... says:
Ooo... Wait, hold on... what exactly are we talking about here? You just dropped one word and left me hanging... Are we diving into some deep sci-fi rabbit hole or is this about something else entirely? I need a little more context to really get my head around where you're going with this... Give me something to work with! She finally woke up...
So, you know how it goes... they’ll hang around the chat for a bit, racking up enough posts to look like they actually belong, and then suddenly they’re gonna get "serious." Like, they'll jump right into a deep thread about raw food just to drop a single comment saying they could never actually do it... typical... 😵
And she’d probably start counting everyone else's posts just to troll the whole thread... honestly...

How on earth did you not report this here, Sandra Kern37...?

Oh man... don't even get me started. Now that I’ve actually dropped the receipts showing you were out here telling everyone they were just clones, suddenly you're playing the "you're taking my words out of context" card? Seriously? Like, come on... Just answer the question: did you call them all the same person or not?
Look, I didn't take anything out of context... if anything, you're the one twisting my words from that vaccination thread where I was clearly just messing around. But now you're straight-up accusing people of being clones? That's exactly what you're doing to everyone else, and honestly, opening up an entire debate like this over that is just too much. You really should feel a little embarrassed about that...
Here are two more examples where you were out here calling people clones...

That’s all really sweet and thanks for the link, seriously... but man, you gotta look at what Brenda Gonzalez12 just posted today about those clones...

So, he did a pretty decent job describing himself there, but honestly, what you can really see from this whole thing is that... Hey Brenda Gonzalez12... you actually know how to pull off the whole "secretly a clone" thing, don't you?...

Alright, here’s a slightly longer list with all the updated values...

Oh, really? After exactly two posts, this person starts rambling about how I’m out on vacation in Florida with my family, and then asks why I’m even bothering to talk to her?

Here is my actual post, so everyone can see THE AGGRESSION SHE IS DIRECTING AT ME.

Brenda Gonzalez12 said:That’s exactly why I told you to head over to the Nutrition sub-forum; the people there actually have expertise. The way you're acting makes you look like a fake profile created by Elizabeth Jackson or one of her associates (like LLeen or Lorelei) just to pretend they're "experts" again. But they aren't, and it's been proven.
The guy claims to be plant-based, while Gnu (who is well-known for the weird stuff he posts here) is already suggesting enemas as a weight loss method (which is proven to be harmful, even dangerous), and collectively, they're all going to push nothing but vegan (and now, suddenly, vegetarian) advice on you. And that's despite the fact that you CLEARLY AND LOUDLY stated you weren't interested in any of that.
So why insist on it? Just go where the knowledgeable people are and get real answers.

And this is the response she gets from someone whose very first post on the thread is being met with this:

Tsina-Iti said:Don't I have the right to decide for myself what makes sense and what doesn't, instead of having someone try to force me via aggressive tactics in some sort of forced persuasion? Because honestly, looking at this, it feels pretty forced!
I came here asking for advice, and aside from those few words you wrote to me, everything else has just been you badmouthing this forum member who was actually trying to help me. They offered advice and said we could do things our own way; they certainly weren't aggressively trying to kick me off the thread like you are.
And now you're telling me that everyone posting here is stupid and giving bad advice, trying to convince me they're all terrible— even though I see you posting all day long despite supposedly being on vacation with your family. So why on earth are you posting so much if these people bother you so much? Why are you trying to drive me to another topic?

When I saw how you were insulting the people who actually tried to help, it honestly made me feel sick... Truly nauseated.

What does she know about me, my family, or where I am? Unless she reads every single thread or has some psychic ability to know my business, she's clueless. Besides, I didn't even address her directly once; I just gave her the same advice everyone else did: avoid the scammers who are doing exactly what she EXPLICITLY SAID SHE WASN'T INTERESTED IN. And since she decided to resort to blatant ad hominem insults, I felt I had to shut her down immediately so she'd stop bringing up her family in these posts. And you know what, Gnu? I think I'll start treating you the exact same way from now on. With total pleasure.

stormyrider28 said:Alright, let me start by laying out a few lies...

So, here's a look at what your pure stuff actually looks like... Lies... just total lies everywhere you look... honestly, it’s getting to be a bit much sometimes... everything feels so filtered and fake lately... turns out nothing is ever quite what it seems on the surface... stays with you, though... how you can trust anyone when everyone is just playing a part... it's wild... So, about that forum girl you're accusing of going after Brenda Gonzalez12... she hasn't actually been attacking her for the last 20 pages of this thread... Whatever he says goes... honestly... just taking everything he says at face value... Total lie and complete nonsense. She wasn't even present in this thread twenty pages ago... she barely even had a handful of posts on this topic to begin with...
She wasn't even the one attacking him... it was actually the total opposite. He was coming at her hard. Honestly, after just a few messages once she even joined the thread without any reason at all, he started claiming she was some kind of bot or clone... just totally out of nowhere...
Here’s the proof...

So... So, Brenda Gonzalez12 actually dropped three separate accusations claiming someone was a clone, and you didn't even bother to report it here...Man, I honestly can't believe you missed that... like, seriously? So, I’m posting this right here just to set the record straight. It's wild how some people have the nerve to point fingers at everyone else for doing the exact same thing they're out there doing even more often... it's just ridiculous...

So you’re really gonna sit there and grill me about my lies? Fine... if that's how we're playing this... here's another one coming straight from you...

That’s just another one of your lies... honestly, it’s pure fiction at this point. If you actually think otherwise, then go ahead... feel free to quote a few of them if you really want to try... Those "dissertations" she was supposedly cranking out for Brenda Gonzalez12 on a weekly basis... Because that’s just a straight-up lie. I’ve been following this thread, and when it first popped up a few days ago, she only replied to him twice... mostly because he was being totally unprovoked and just straight-up insulting her. After that, she basically just stopped acknowledging him altogether, but... She’s still coming at her with everything she’s got... just won't let it go... So, he went after her again today for absolutely no reason at all... even though she’s completely ignoring him, he just won't let it go. He's attacking her out of nowhere, just pure aggression for the sake of it, and now he's back at it again with those ridiculous claims that she's some kind of clone... honestly, it's just getting old...

Hey everyone... just wanted to jump in here and share some thoughts on what we were talking about earlier... honestly, there’s so much to unpack with this whole situation... I’ve been sitting here thinking about it all morning while grabbing my coffee... and yeah, I totally see where you're coming from... but also, maybe we should look at it from a different angle? Just a thought... anyway, I'll try to keep this somewhat coherent, though no promises... lol... turns out things aren't always as simple as they seem on the surface... especially when you start digging into the details... let me know if that makes sense... or if I'm just rambling now... stay tuned... says:
Ooo... Wait, hold on... what exactly are we talking about here? You just dropped one word and left me hanging... Are we diving into some deep sci-fi rabbit hole or is this about something else entirely? I need a little more context to really get my head around where you're going with this... Give me something to work with! She finally woke up...
So, you know how it goes... they’ll hang around the chat for a bit, racking up enough posts to look like they actually belong, and then suddenly they’re gonna get "serious." Like, they'll jump right into a deep thread about raw food just to drop a single comment saying they could never actually do it... typical... 😵
And she’d probably start counting everyone else's posts just to troll the whole thread... honestly...

How on earth did you not report this here, Sandra Kern37...?

Oh man... don't even get me started. Now that I’ve actually dropped the receipts showing you were out here telling everyone they were just clones, suddenly you're playing the "you're taking my words out of context" card? Seriously? Like, come on... Just answer the question: did you call them all the same person or not?
Look, I didn't take anything out of context... if anything, you're the one twisting my words from that vaccination thread where I was clearly just messing around. But now you're straight-up accusing people of being clones? That's exactly what you're doing to everyone else, and honestly, opening up an entire debate like this over that is just too much. You really should feel a little embarrassed about that...
Here are two more examples where you were out here calling people clones...

That’s all really sweet and thanks for the link, seriously... but man, you gotta look at what Brenda Gonzalez12 just posted today about those clones...

So, he did a pretty decent job describing himself there, but honestly, what you can really see from this whole thing is that... Hey Brenda Gonzalez12... you actually know how to pull off the whole "secretly a clone" thing, don't you?...

Alright, here’s a slightly longer list with all the updated values...

And you really, truly concluded that this is how it *actually* works because you're such an "intelligent" person? Gnu, you've honestly managed to embarrass yourself quite spectacularly on this thread. You know, maybe I should have just come out and said that my moderators call me every single morning at 9:00 AM to tip me off about who is cloning whom, and that they even go as far as hiding my IP addresses for me. I bet you'd swallow that whole and post it right here too!
😂 😂