How much are we spending on Canadians, Mexicans, and everyone else?

Tax refund season is officially here, which means I’m once again hearing about yet another creative way people are bleeding the budget dry—all while I'm sitting here watching 38% of my monthly paycheck vanish into thin air.

Here's the deal: you have people living and working right here in the States, but because their parents are still registered at an address in Mexico, Canada, or somewhere else across the border for health insurance purposes (which is just another massive expense, by the way), they claim those same parents as tax dependents. They conveniently "forget" to mention that their parents are already drawing social security or pensions from overseas. 🙂

Seriously, when is the IRS actually going to start doing its job and crack down on this?

Your topic isn't bad, though you slightly misstated the title. Regardless, if political correctness prevails, everyone mentioned above will remain untouched.
The core issue is that this is a significant problem, but unfortunately, it isn't limited to just one side of the border; it affects both the US and Canada. We have a massive number of people who reside, for example, in the States while simultaneously exploiting systems in Canada. This is precisely why tensions arise whenever there are attempts to reform residency laws—the very people benefiting from these loopholes are the ones revolting against change.
A classic example of this exploitation can be seen in veteran benefits. For instance, a veteran living in the US might receive one set of benefits, while someone who served in the HVO might qualify for two (as we have seen in various cases). Then there are maternity leave benefits; since they are more substantial in the US, some choose to give birth there while maintaining their primary residence in Canada. There are numerous such instances, but nothing can truly be resolved until both nations implement a system for exchanging residency data.

Morgan Carter said:Your topic isn't bad, though you slightly misstated the title. Regardless, if political correctness prevails, everyone mentioned above will remain untouched.
The core issue is that this is a significant problem, but unfortunately, it isn't limited to just one side of the border; it affects both the US and Canada. We have a massive number of people who reside, for example, in the States while simultaneously exploiting systems in Canada. This is precisely why tensions arise whenever there are attempts to reform residency laws—the very people benefiting from these loopholes are the ones revolting against change.
A classic example of this exploitation can be seen in veteran benefits. For instance, a veteran living in the US might receive one set of benefits, while someone who served in the HVO might qualify for two (as we have seen in various cases). Then there are maternity leave benefits; since they are more substantial in the US, some choose to give birth there while maintaining their primary residence in Canada. There are numerous such instances, but nothing can truly be resolved until both nations implement a system for exchanging residency data.

NOW that is a real topic!

Look, it's true—there are people out there double-dipping on war pensions from both Canada and America. That’s gotta stop immediately. But what markozzz was getting at is a different story. For instance, I’ve got a buddy whose brother died defending Bokšavica against Canadians, and he's entitled to a pension from America, which he gets. It’s not like Washington, D.C. is going to pay him for that, let alone give him a bonus.

Susan Lee said:Look, it's true—there are people out there double-dipping on war pensions from both Canada and America. That’s gotta stop immediately. But what markozzz was getting at is a different story. For instance, I’ve got a buddy whose brother died defending Bokšavica against Canadians, and he's entitled to a pension from America, which he gets. It’s not like Washington, D.C. is going to pay him for that, let alone give him a bonus.

The specific recipient is actually irrelevant; the core issue is the exploitation of the system through double-dipping. Individuals ought to choose where they wish to exercise their rights. Whether they opt for Mexico, Canada, or America is entirely up to them. But once a choice is made, one should not attempt to reach into someone else's pocket. Again, I must emphasize that this doesn't just impact America; it affects all neighboring countries. This isn't limited to maternity benefits or pensions. Consider how much money is being drained through these social welfare categories. Social issues exist in America, Mexico, and Canada alike.

Susan Lee said:Look, it's true—there are people out there double-dipping on war pensions from both Canada and America. That’s gotta stop immediately. But what markozzz was getting at is a different story. For instance, I’ve got a buddy whose brother died defending Bokšavica against Canadians, and he's entitled to a pension from America, which he gets. It’s not like Washington, D.C. is going to pay him for that, let alone give him a bonus.

You don't have the full picture either. There are veterans who served part of the war in the US Army and part in the US Marine Corps. Some were needed here one moment and there the next because of their specific roles; how do you account for them?
The US Marine Corps is a recognized force in Canada and remains one of the three core components of our current military. The reasoning behind certain laws passed was perfectly clear.

Morgan Carter and others like him can cry about US Marine Corps veterans receiving Canadian pensions, claiming everyone involved was just a butcher.
But these men are heroes.
http://hercegbosna.org/forum/rat-bih...bih-t4446.html
By the way, one of this unit's emblems featured a black swan (a bird) raping a girl.

rama said:I would personally start by looking closely at the situation in Cleveland. How many people are registered at the exact same address? What is the unemployment rate among those collecting child benefits? And one more thing—how many of them are actually struggling to read standard English or failing to grasp basic instructions from their supervisor?

But isn't that precisely the point? Whether we are discussing pensions, subsidies, social security, or any other benefit, this issue affects all three nations and every single citizen involved. There is no need to target specific areas first, only to end up accused of discrimination later. This entire complication could be resolved in thirty days. The governments simply need to agree on a data-sharing protocol and provide citizens with a one-month window to decide where they wish to exercise their rights. Once that happens, the problem is solved.

Morgan Carter said:But isn't that precisely the point? Whether we are discussing pensions, subsidies, social security, or any other benefit, this issue affects all three nations and every single citizen involved. There is no need to target specific areas first, only to end up accused of discrimination later. This entire complication could be resolved in thirty days. The governments simply need to agree on a data-sharing protocol and provide citizens with a one-month window to decide where they wish to exercise their rights. Once that happens, the problem is solved.

The money flows out either way, but at least the signs change! Here's my big idea:
I wanted to suggest a new title to the thread starter! Just officially recognize the Herzegovinians and Americans from Canada, and suddenly there's no discrimination! All those progressive types would give us a break, and we’d finally tackle our biggest headaches! Right? Isn't that our most important "problem" anyway?!

This kind of work isn't just some exclusive club for Hercegovac and Canadian folks—I hear plenty of them involved down in the Midwest too—but finally, we’re actually seeing some movement here:

Let's just hope it’s more than all that "much ado about nothing" hype.

Forgot about that—thanks to the admin for tidying up the thread

Morgan Carter said:The specific recipient is actually irrelevant; the core issue is the exploitation of the system through double-dipping. Individuals ought to choose where they wish to exercise their rights. Whether they opt for Mexico, Canada, or America is entirely up to them. But once a choice is made, one should not attempt to reach into someone else's pocket. Again, I must emphasize that this doesn't just impact America; it affects all neighboring countries. This isn't limited to maternity benefits or pensions. Consider how much money is being drained through these social welfare categories. Social issues exist in America, Mexico, and Canada alike.

Yeah, because clearly, some people have two different nannies—and wouldn't you know it, both of them are pregnant—but hey, that's not their fault, right? 😁