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How to stay spiritually strong?

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Nicholas Gonzalez8 Nicholas Gonzalez8 Regular
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#81 ·
Bradley Roberts10 said:Hey there! I just had to get this off my chest. I’ve been following Zac Efron’s posts for a while now, and honestly, I am just so happy for you. You're so young, yet you write with such incredible depth—you actually think deeply and live life in a way that gives you something real to write about. Most people couldn't pull that off. Seriously, major props to you! Keep doing your thing!🙂

Thanks 🙂 I just really hope my stuff matters to someone and offers a bit of help. You've got plenty of great posts yourself 🙂
Kate Johnson14 Kate Johnson14 Newcomer
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#82 ·
Henry Kim3 said:Heh, you hit a wall after two years, but I've been building this up for 11 or 12 years now, and I am NEVER going to fall. Sure, I might stumble, but falling? Never...! There’s a simple secret to staying upright: PRAYER. Go to church, talk to God... If you're in New York City, head over to St. Patrick's Cathedral, sit there for a bit in the peace and quiet, and just listen to the silence... Pray to God, even if it's just the simplest prayer you can muster. Because, my dear, everyone else might walk out on you, but Jesus NEVER will! So, don't pay too much mind to those people who would probably say I'm talking nonsense right now, because I'm speaking from actual experience... It sounds cliché, but I haven't taken the cross from around my neck in over 12 years, and I have no intention of ever doing so! Optimism is easy to lose, along with that supposed "tangible spirituality"—if that even exists—but prayer carries immense power... You don't even have to pray every single day... Just being able to wake up in the morning and thank God that you're alive, or remembering Jesus when you lie down at night to wish Him goodnight and greet the angels... is enough. Aaaaaaaah........... Time doesn't solve problems; WE solve them... So, you can't really expect your faith or hope to come rushing back if you aren't doing anything about it... Start with small steps... After all, a baby falls first, then crawls, then walks, and eventually runs..... 😉

Forgive me, but from what I gather, she’s saying everything in her life is falling apart and going south, and that’s why she’s losing her spirituality. That’s the exact question any person with a functioning brain would ask themselves if they were a believer: "How am I supposed to make ends meet in this recession? How do I deal with this job uncertainty when layoffs are happening every single day? Why are bad things happening to me if I haven't done anything to deserve them?"

But Henry Kim3, she needs a concrete solution to her problems, not just some hope being sold to her through prayer. Of course, the church—as an incredibly hypocritical institution—doesn't provide any actual financial assistance to its followers, even though that very same church owns a massive amount of real estate in this country. They offer prayer, words spoken during Mass... basically, comfort. It’s just like someone with a weak character who, crushed by problems they can't handle, feels so miserable and lost that they turn to drugs just to feel happy for a few hours while it kicks in... sure, it's a fake happiness, not the real thing, but in that specific moment, it feels real enough to them. The person offering them the drugs is a hypocrite, a fake friend, because a true friend helps you actually solve your problems instead of feeding you false hope and artificial bliss. It's the same with the church hypocritically offering PRAYER as comfort to people who are unemployed, people who can't afford to feed their families, or young people sitting on unemployment benefits hoping for a job while everything falls apart... all when they could take a portion of that enormous capital they possess and pay out to believers in their darkest hours, house the homeless, and actually help. A fake solution looks perfect to a naive person at first glance; it seems right within reach, and while they're being sold this hollow fix (in this case, via a priest's sermon during Mass), everything seems so solvable and wonderful... but once they step out of that church—that massive building that reeks of wastefulness and excess—and head back to their tiny rented apartment, or catch a bus or a subway home while the priest who gave them the "solution" in the form of prayer pulls away in a Tahoe, a Hummer, a Grand Cherokee, or a Mercedes ML (since those are clearly the preferred vehicles for priests in this country), maybe then things start to click for that naive soul... maybe they realize no one is actually helping them, they're just being fed false hope when they could be getting the tangible help they need to pull themselves out of this crisis. Like the Bible says: "Love your neighbor as yourself"... yeah, sure, and the naive person goes back to their cramped little rental on the bus, while the priest who recited those words drives his brand-new SUV to one of the luxury mansions the church owns across the country... Ah, what a beautiful way to show love for your neighbor...🤣 If it weren't so pathetic, tragic, and sad, it would almost be funny.🙂
neongardener2 neongardener2 Member
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#83 ·
Nicholas Gonzalez8 said:Look, controlling your thoughts and feelings isn't actually the hard part. The problem is that most people think exactly like you do. They convince themselves that this requires some massive, Herculean effort and endless "self-help" labor, so they overcomplicate it, and then—surprise, surprise—it feels even harder than it actually is.

Thoughts drive emotions. Period. Think of your emotions as a GPS indicator showing you which direction your thoughts are heading. If you generate five positive thoughts and three negative ones, you're going to feel good. It works the exact same way in reverse. There are basically two main directions—two core emotions—that everything else stems from: love and fear. Everything else is just a subset of those. Get a grip on your thoughts, and you'll have a grip on your emotions too.

So, how do you actually control your mind? For starters, stop living on autopilot. People spend half their lives daydreaming about the past or stressing about the future while simultaneously stumbling through the present like zombies. You have to stay conscious of every single thought, feeling, and action.

If a thought pops up that you don't like—don't fight it. Don't wrestle with it. For example, you might think, "Everything is going wrong," and then the internal monologue kicks in: "But I don't want this, I can do better. But how? I don't know, I'm lost and miserable. If only I could just move past this state, and..." And it just keeps spiraling until someone snaps you out of it.

On the flip side, try this: "Everything is going wrong, but I..." Just stop right there in the middle of the sentence and let that internal chatter die out. Once it's quiet, start a different story: "Okay, things haven't been great, but starting today, the script changes. Every day, I'm going to take a few steps toward a better life. Life might knock me down ten times, but I'm getting back up every single time, and on the eleventh attempt, I'll win. Nothing and nobody can stop me except my own decision to quit, and I'm not doing that. Every setback is just making me smarter and tougher—success and happiness are inevitable 🙂 "

Don't go around judging others for what they do. Respect their free will, regardless of the choices they make. We all want to be happy, but let's face it—most of us are just wandering aimlessly trying to find the path. Sometimes we even end up hurting ourselves and the people around us in the process.

Look, nobody can actually hurt you—not really. The only thing that causes real pain is your own set of unmet expectations. We all do it, right? We walk around expecting people to give back what we give, expecting them to act a certain way, or waiting for some kind of "thank you." But why? It’s such a trap. If you just decide to give your love and attention unconditionally, without looking for a receipt, then you become bulletproof. You won't deal with that bitterness, jealousy, or anger because you aren't tied to the outcome. Sure, some people won't reciprocate—that's just life—but others will. Just embrace the ones who fit in your world and let the rest drift away. It’s honestly that simple. There’s zero point in mourning people who exit your life; it's much better to be grateful for the good times you had and stay excited about the new, interesting people you haven't even met yet.

You clearly understand the Law of Attraction, you just haven't mastered how to steer it yet. When you live in fear, you basically act as a magnet for everything you're afraid of. If you doubt yourself, those doubts become self-fulfilling prophecies. If you're convinced nothing is going your way, guess what? Nothing will go your way. Luckily, the whole thing works in reverse, too. 🙂

Your thoughts set the direction, but your emotions? They're the fuel. I want, so I attract more wanting. I am, I have, I become—those are the building blocks for the reality you're trying to build. If you spend all your mental energy obsessing over what you *don't* want, that's exactly what you'll end up with. Keep your eyes on the prize. And once you finally pull an opportunity toward you, don't just sit there—get out there and grab it! 🙂

By the way, you should definitely check out the Transfuring book series. It'll help clear up a lot of this fog.

Just let the past go. You aren't the first person to mess up a college major, and you certainly won't be the last. Back when I was at my university, nearly 60% of the students dropped out before their sophomore year. I was one of them, but honestly, it doesn't bother me one bit. If I hadn't tried, I'd still be sitting around wondering "what if" and feeling like I was missing out. If you hate what you're studying, quit. Why grind away for a degree just to land a career you'll despise anyway?

First things first: figure out what you actually want to achieve, possess, and be. Life doesn't have to follow a perfect blueprint, but you'll just wander aim in circles without some basic North Star. I'd recommend reading "Success DNA"—it'll help you find your footing. Once you have that clarity, then you can decide whether to switch majors, take a trade course, hunt for a job, start a small business, or even decide what kind of partner you're actually looking for.

I mean, what would even be the point of living if we weren't meant to experience things? Can you even imagine souls spending eternity doing absolutely nothing? Your purpose is definitely out there. 🙂

Regarding that bold part... I've noticed that most people (especially in my family) suffer for others—all the fighting, the gossip, all that relationship drama—and then everyone acts like nothing ever happened! Nothing actually gets fixed; they just do it all under the guise of "love." And it happens constantly! It drives me crazy because when someone bugs me or their behavior gets on my nerves, I don't want them around, even if they're my brother, dad, cousin, or aunt. Those kinds of relationships just drain me. I lose energy, I get frustrated... I might go back to old ways if I see things have actually changed, if we actually settled things and aren't just repeating the same mistakes over and over.
Those types of connections are exhausting and irritating, and I've realized that since I distanced myself from those people—meaning I don't see them often, only when I absolutely have to—life is easier and I feel better.

So, here's the thing...! I'm fine with how I am because I'm not going to tolerate other people's stupidity or rudeness. I just step away from that person or group, and then suddenly *I'm* the rude one! People throw it in my face constantly, while all the reasons why I distanced myself from that person in the first place are totally forgotten... Like, I'm supposed to act like everyone else, swallow all the crap, pretend nothing happened, keep my thoughts to myself, and just smile in everyone's faces like they're great, all because "it's family." Well, I'm not built like that. I'm not a hypocrite, and I refuse to hang out in circles that bother me, yet I still get blamed for being incredibly rude or having an attitude.😲... 🙂

So yeah, it's not quite that simple!
rustyranger10 rustyranger10 Newcomer
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#84 ·
If I want to maintain any semblance of spiritual fortitude, I find myself listening exclusively to punk—take hopeless struggle for instance. It’s all about how this existence is just one massive, chaotic mess—we're essentially all walking toward an inevitable end anyway, spinning in circles while waiting for our time to run out... and honestly, that kind of music is my anchor. I listen to it in absolute silence.
Kate Johnson14 Kate Johnson14 Newcomer
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#85 ·
rustyranger10 said:If I want to maintain any semblance of spiritual fortitude, I find myself listening exclusively to punk—take hopeless struggle for instance. It’s all about how this existence is just one massive, chaotic mess—we're essentially all walking toward an inevitable end anyway, spinning in circles while waiting for our time to run out... and honestly, that kind of music is my anchor. I listen to it in absolute silence.

I don't really listen to punk myself, but I actually dig your take on spirituality. You need to do things that relax you, things that give you a sense of fulfillment and purpose...

The absolute height of stupidity is walking into a church just to sit there and soak in those hypocritical platitudes about self-denial, sacrifice, humility, and helping your neighbor. It's nothing more than brainwashing the naive through representatives of an institution that acts in direct opposition to everything they preach during their religious services! To listen to and believe in a church that has spent centuries violating every single moral law it publicly promotes... it's madness. It's like calling a predator a champion for child protection, or treating someone like Anders Breivik as if he were a model of racial and religious tolerance, or acting like Trump is some kind of intellectual giant. 😂
rustyranger10 rustyranger10 Newcomer
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#86 ·
Kate Johnson14 said:I don't really listen to punk myself, but I actually dig your take on spirituality. You need to do things that relax you, things that give you a sense of fulfillment and purpose...

The absolute height of stupidity is walking into a church just to sit there and soak in those hypocritical platitudes about self-denial, sacrifice, humility, and helping your neighbor. It's nothing more than brainwashing the naive through representatives of an institution that acts in direct opposition to everything they preach during their religious services! To listen to and believe in a church that has spent centuries violating every single moral law it publicly promotes... it's madness. It's like calling a predator a champion for child protection, or treating someone like Anders Breivik as if he were a model of racial and religious tolerance, or acting like Trump is some kind of intellectual giant. 😂

Exactly. How can anyone even speak about sacrifice when they're being driven by a paralyzing fear of death?
I'm trying to wrap my head around what makes them tick...
In this world of caricatures...
Everything spinning inside their heads...
Is just hell, heaven, and the terror of dying.
God follows me—He is my hero—and I find Him crucified in every church, and honestly, who can touch me when I live like that? When I see myself reflected in that crucifixion, how else am I supposed to remain spiritually strong? 😵 🙂 🤣
rustyranger10 rustyranger10 Newcomer
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#87 ·
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When you think about offering up sticks just to watch them burn in the fires of some ancient solar deity... No way. Not even close.

My divine Svarozic,
The golden sun, this bright, white world!
My divine Svarozic.
Moon-dwellers, oh moon-dwellers!


Fire—it’s the ultimate symbol of the Holy Spirit in action. Think back to Pentecost; those tongues of flame resting right above the heads of Jesus' disciples. Everyone was filled with the Holy Spirit and started speaking in all these different languages, guided by the Spirit, so that people from every corner of the globe gathered in Jerusalem could actually understand them (Acts 2:4-5).

WATER FIRE EARTH AIR

and, of course,

PUNK
Henry Kim3 Henry Kim3 Member
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#88 ·
Kate Johnson14 said:Forgive me, but from what I gather, she’s saying everything in her life is falling apart and going south, and that’s why she’s losing her spirituality. That’s the exact question any person with a functioning brain would ask themselves if they were a believer: "How am I supposed to make ends meet in this recession? How do I deal with this job uncertainty when layoffs are happening every single day? Why are bad things happening to me if I haven't done anything to deserve them?"

But Henry Kim3, she needs a concrete solution to her problems, not just some hope being sold to her through prayer. Of course, the church—as an incredibly hypocritical institution—doesn't provide any actual financial assistance to its followers, even though that very same church owns a massive amount of real estate in this country. They offer prayer, words spoken during Mass... basically, comfort. It’s just like someone with a weak character who, crushed by problems they can't handle, feels so miserable and lost that they turn to drugs just to feel happy for a few hours while it kicks in... sure, it's a fake happiness, not the real thing, but in that specific moment, it feels real enough to them. The person offering them the drugs is a hypocrite, a fake friend, because a true friend helps you actually solve your problems instead of feeding you false hope and artificial bliss. It's the same with the church hypocritically offering PRAYER as comfort to people who are unemployed, people who can't afford to feed their families, or young people sitting on unemployment benefits hoping for a job while everything falls apart... all when they could take a portion of that enormous capital they possess and pay out to believers in their darkest hours, house the homeless, and actually help. A fake solution looks perfect to a naive person at first glance; it seems right within reach, and while they're being sold this hollow fix (in this case, via a priest's sermon during Mass), everything seems so solvable and wonderful... but once they step out of that church—that massive building that reeks of wastefulness and excess—and head back to their tiny rented apartment, or catch a bus or a subway home while the priest who gave them the "solution" in the form of prayer pulls away in a Tahoe, a Hummer, a Grand Cherokee, or a Mercedes ML (since those are clearly the preferred vehicles for priests in this country), maybe then things start to click for that naive soul... maybe they realize no one is actually helping them, they're just being fed false hope when they could be getting the tangible help they need to pull themselves out of this crisis. Like the Bible says: "Love your neighbor as yourself"... yeah, sure, and the naive person goes back to their cramped little rental on the bus, while the priest who recited those words drives his brand-new SUV to one of the luxury mansions the church owns across the country... Ah, what a beautiful way to show love for your neighbor...🤣 If it weren't so pathetic, tragic, and sad, it would almost be funny.🙂

And?

Kate Johnson14 said:Forgive me, but from what I gather, she’s saying everything in her life is falling apart and going south, and that’s why she’s losing her spirituality. That’s the exact question any person with a functioning brain would ask themselves if they were a believer: "How am I supposed to make ends meet in this recession? How do I deal with this job uncertainty when layoffs are happening every single day? Why are bad things happening to me if I haven't done anything to deserve them?"

But Henry Kim3, she needs a concrete solution to her problems, not just some hope being sold to her through prayer. Of course, the church—as an incredibly hypocritical institution—doesn't provide any actual financial assistance to its followers, even though that very same church owns a massive amount of real estate in this country. They offer prayer, words spoken during Mass... basically, comfort. It’s just like someone with a weak character who, crushed by problems they can't handle, feels so miserable and lost that they turn to drugs just to feel happy for a few hours while it kicks in... sure, it's a fake happiness, not the real thing, but in that specific moment, it feels real enough to them. The person offering them the drugs is a hypocrite, a fake friend, because a true friend helps you actually solve your problems instead of feeding you false hope and artificial bliss. It's the same with the church hypocritically offering PRAYER as comfort to people who are unemployed, people who can't afford to feed their families, or young people sitting on unemployment benefits hoping for a job while everything falls apart... all when they could take a portion of that enormous capital they possess and pay out to believers in their darkest hours, house the homeless, and actually help. A fake solution looks perfect to a naive person at first glance; it seems right within reach, and while they're being sold this hollow fix (in this case, via a priest's sermon during Mass), everything seems so solvable and wonderful... but once they step out of that church—that massive building that reeks of wastefulness and excess—and head back to their tiny rented apartment, or catch a bus or a subway home while the priest who gave them the "solution" in the form of prayer pulls away in a Tahoe, a Hummer, a Grand Cherokee, or a Mercedes ML (since those are clearly the preferred vehicles for priests in this country), maybe then things start to click for that naive soul... maybe they realize no one is actually helping them, they're just being fed false hope when they could be getting the tangible help they need to pull themselves out of this crisis. Like the Bible says: "Love your neighbor as yourself"... yeah, sure, and the naive person goes back to their cramped little rental on the bus, while the priest who recited those words drives his brand-new SUV to one of the luxury mansions the church owns across the country... Ah, what a beautiful way to show love for your neighbor...🤣 If it weren't so pathetic, tragic, and sad, it would almost be funny.🙂

And?

I can show you the path, but you actually have to walk it...!

Kate Johnson14 said:Forgive me, but from what I gather, she’s saying everything in her life is falling apart and going south, and that’s why she’s losing her spirituality. That’s the exact question any person with a functioning brain would ask themselves if they were a believer: "How am I supposed to make ends meet in this recession? How do I deal with this job uncertainty when layoffs are happening every single day? Why are bad things happening to me if I haven't done anything to deserve them?"

But Henry Kim3, she needs a concrete solution to her problems, not just some hope being sold to her through prayer. Of course, the church—as an incredibly hypocritical institution—doesn't provide any actual financial assistance to its followers, even though that very same church owns a massive amount of real estate in this country. They offer prayer, words spoken during Mass... basically, comfort. It’s just like someone with a weak character who, crushed by problems they can't handle, feels so miserable and lost that they turn to drugs just to feel happy for a few hours while it kicks in... sure, it's a fake happiness, not the real thing, but in that specific moment, it feels real enough to them. The person offering them the drugs is a hypocrite, a fake friend, because a true friend helps you actually solve your problems instead of feeding you false hope and artificial bliss. It's the same with the church hypocritically offering PRAYER as comfort to people who are unemployed, people who can't afford to feed their families, or young people sitting on unemployment benefits hoping for a job while everything falls apart... all when they could take a portion of that enormous capital they possess and pay out to believers in their darkest hours, house the homeless, and actually help. A fake solution looks perfect to a naive person at first glance; it seems right within reach, and while they're being sold this hollow fix (in this case, via a priest's sermon during Mass), everything seems so solvable and wonderful... but once they step out of that church—that massive building that reeks of wastefulness and excess—and head back to their tiny rented apartment, or catch a bus or a subway home while the priest who gave them the "solution" in the form of prayer pulls away in a Tahoe, a Hummer, a Grand Cherokee, or a Mercedes ML (since those are clearly the preferred vehicles for priests in this country), maybe then things start to click for that naive soul... maybe they realize no one is actually helping them, they're just being fed false hope when they could be getting the tangible help they need to pull themselves out of this crisis. Like the Bible says: "Love your neighbor as yourself"... yeah, sure, and the naive person goes back to their cramped little rental on the bus, while the priest who recited those words drives his brand-new SUV to one of the luxury mansions the church owns across the country... Ah, what a beautiful way to show love for your neighbor...🤣 If it weren't so pathetic, tragic, and sad, it would almost be funny.🙂

Please, spare me the rhetoric... 🙂

Kate Johnson14 said:Forgive me, but from what I gather, she’s saying everything in her life is falling apart and going south, and that’s why she’s losing her spirituality. That’s the exact question any person with a functioning brain would ask themselves if they were a believer: "How am I supposed to make ends meet in this recession? How do I deal with this job uncertainty when layoffs are happening every single day? Why are bad things happening to me if I haven't done anything to deserve them?"

But Henry Kim3, she needs a concrete solution to her problems, not just some hope being sold to her through prayer. Of course, the church—as an incredibly hypocritical institution—doesn't provide any actual financial assistance to its followers, even though that very same church owns a massive amount of real estate in this country. They offer prayer, words spoken during Mass... basically, comfort. It’s just like someone with a weak character who, crushed by problems they can't handle, feels so miserable and lost that they turn to drugs just to feel happy for a few hours while it kicks in... sure, it's a fake happiness, not the real thing, but in that specific moment, it feels real enough to them. The person offering them the drugs is a hypocrite, a fake friend, because a true friend helps you actually solve your problems instead of feeding you false hope and artificial bliss. It's the same with the church hypocritically offering PRAYER as comfort to people who are unemployed, people who can't afford to feed their families, or young people sitting on unemployment benefits hoping for a job while everything falls apart... all when they could take a portion of that enormous capital they possess and pay out to believers in their darkest hours, house the homeless, and actually help. A fake solution looks perfect to a naive person at first glance; it seems right within reach, and while they're being sold this hollow fix (in this case, via a priest's sermon during Mass), everything seems so solvable and wonderful... but once they step out of that church—that massive building that reeks of wastefulness and excess—and head back to their tiny rented apartment, or catch a bus or a subway home while the priest who gave them the "solution" in the form of prayer pulls away in a Tahoe, a Hummer, a Grand Cherokee, or a Mercedes ML (since those are clearly the preferred vehicles for priests in this country), maybe then things start to click for that naive soul... maybe they realize no one is actually helping them, they're just being fed false hope when they could be getting the tangible help they need to pull themselves out of this crisis. Like the Bible says: "Love your neighbor as yourself"... yeah, sure, and the naive person goes back to their cramped little rental on the bus, while the priest who recited those words drives his brand-new SUV to one of the luxury mansions the church owns across the country... Ah, what a beautiful way to show love for your neighbor...🤣 If it weren't so pathetic, tragic, and sad, it would almost be funny.🙂

Ugh, I feel like I've read this exact sentence about religion a thousand times already...

Kate Johnson14 said:Forgive me, but from what I gather, she’s saying everything in her life is falling apart and going south, and that’s why she’s losing her spirituality. That’s the exact question any person with a functioning brain would ask themselves if they were a believer: "How am I supposed to make ends meet in this recession? How do I deal with this job uncertainty when layoffs are happening every single day? Why are bad things happening to me if I haven't done anything to deserve them?"

But Henry Kim3, she needs a concrete solution to her problems, not just some hope being sold to her through prayer. Of course, the church—as an incredibly hypocritical institution—doesn't provide any actual financial assistance to its followers, even though that very same church owns a massive amount of real estate in this country. They offer prayer, words spoken during Mass... basically, comfort. It’s just like someone with a weak character who, crushed by problems they can't handle, feels so miserable and lost that they turn to drugs just to feel happy for a few hours while it kicks in... sure, it's a fake happiness, not the real thing, but in that specific moment, it feels real enough to them. The person offering them the drugs is a hypocrite, a fake friend, because a true friend helps you actually solve your problems instead of feeding you false hope and artificial bliss. It's the same with the church hypocritically offering PRAYER as comfort to people who are unemployed, people who can't afford to feed their families, or young people sitting on unemployment benefits hoping for a job while everything falls apart... all when they could take a portion of that enormous capital they possess and pay out to believers in their darkest hours, house the homeless, and actually help. A fake solution looks perfect to a naive person at first glance; it seems right within reach, and while they're being sold this hollow fix (in this case, via a priest's sermon during Mass), everything seems so solvable and wonderful... but once they step out of that church—that massive building that reeks of wastefulness and excess—and head back to their tiny rented apartment, or catch a bus or a subway home while the priest who gave them the "solution" in the form of prayer pulls away in a Tahoe, a Hummer, a Grand Cherokee, or a Mercedes ML (since those are clearly the preferred vehicles for priests in this country), maybe then things start to click for that naive soul... maybe they realize no one is actually helping them, they're just being fed false hope when they could be getting the tangible help they need to pull themselves out of this crisis. Like the Bible says: "Love your neighbor as yourself"... yeah, sure, and the naive person goes back to their cramped little rental on the bus, while the priest who recited those words drives his brand-new SUV to one of the luxury mansions the church owns across the country... Ah, what a beautiful way to show love for your neighbor...🤣 If it weren't so pathetic, tragic, and sad, it would almost be funny.🙂

And? Is there something wrong with that? Some people need comfort more than anything else in the world...!

Kate Johnson14 said:Forgive me, but from what I gather, she’s saying everything in her life is falling apart and going south, and that’s why she’s losing her spirituality. That’s the exact question any person with a functioning brain would ask themselves if they were a believer: "How am I supposed to make ends meet in this recession? How do I deal with this job uncertainty when layoffs are happening every single day? Why are bad things happening to me if I haven't done anything to deserve them?"

But Henry Kim3, she needs a concrete solution to her problems, not just some hope being sold to her through prayer. Of course, the church—as an incredibly hypocritical institution—doesn't provide any actual financial assistance to its followers, even though that very same church owns a massive amount of real estate in this country. They offer prayer, words spoken during Mass... basically, comfort. It’s just like someone with a weak character who, crushed by problems they can't handle, feels so miserable and lost that they turn to drugs just to feel happy for a few hours while it kicks in... sure, it's a fake happiness, not the real thing, but in that specific moment, it feels real enough to them. The person offering them the drugs is a hypocrite, a fake friend, because a true friend helps you actually solve your problems instead of feeding you false hope and artificial bliss. It's the same with the church hypocritically offering PRAYER as comfort to people who are unemployed, people who can't afford to feed their families, or young people sitting on unemployment benefits hoping for a job while everything falls apart... all when they could take a portion of that enormous capital they possess and pay out to believers in their darkest hours, house the homeless, and actually help. A fake solution looks perfect to a naive person at first glance; it seems right within reach, and while they're being sold this hollow fix (in this case, via a priest's sermon during Mass), everything seems so solvable and wonderful... but once they step out of that church—that massive building that reeks of wastefulness and excess—and head back to their tiny rented apartment, or catch a bus or a subway home while the priest who gave them the "solution" in the form of prayer pulls away in a Tahoe, a Hummer, a Grand Cherokee, or a Mercedes ML (since those are clearly the preferred vehicles for priests in this country), maybe then things start to click for that naive soul... maybe they realize no one is actually helping them, they're just being fed false hope when they could be getting the tangible help they need to pull themselves out of this crisis. Like the Bible says: "Love your neighbor as yourself"... yeah, sure, and the naive person goes back to their cramped little rental on the bus, while the priest who recited those words drives his brand-new SUV to one of the luxury mansions the church owns across the country... Ah, what a beautiful way to show love for your neighbor...🤣 If it weren't so pathetic, tragic, and sad, it would almost be funny.🙂

Pffft, that comparison is a total disaster, even if I guess I see where you're coming from... But, I suppose what you're trying to say is that there's something deeply pathetic about someone acting like they're going to Mass when they're actually just high on drugs. It’s just sad.

Kate Johnson14 said:Forgive me, but from what I gather, she’s saying everything in her life is falling apart and going south, and that’s why she’s losing her spirituality. That’s the exact question any person with a functioning brain would ask themselves if they were a believer: "How am I supposed to make ends meet in this recession? How do I deal with this job uncertainty when layoffs are happening every single day? Why are bad things happening to me if I haven't done anything to deserve them?"

But Henry Kim3, she needs a concrete solution to her problems, not just some hope being sold to her through prayer. Of course, the church—as an incredibly hypocritical institution—doesn't provide any actual financial assistance to its followers, even though that very same church owns a massive amount of real estate in this country. They offer prayer, words spoken during Mass... basically, comfort. It’s just like someone with a weak character who, crushed by problems they can't handle, feels so miserable and lost that they turn to drugs just to feel happy for a few hours while it kicks in... sure, it's a fake happiness, not the real thing, but in that specific moment, it feels real enough to them. The person offering them the drugs is a hypocrite, a fake friend, because a true friend helps you actually solve your problems instead of feeding you false hope and artificial bliss. It's the same with the church hypocritically offering PRAYER as comfort to people who are unemployed, people who can't afford to feed their families, or young people sitting on unemployment benefits hoping for a job while everything falls apart... all when they could take a portion of that enormous capital they possess and pay out to believers in their darkest hours, house the homeless, and actually help. A fake solution looks perfect to a naive person at first glance; it seems right within reach, and while they're being sold this hollow fix (in this case, via a priest's sermon during Mass), everything seems so solvable and wonderful... but once they step out of that church—that massive building that reeks of wastefulness and excess—and head back to their tiny rented apartment, or catch a bus or a subway home while the priest who gave them the "solution" in the form of prayer pulls away in a Tahoe, a Hummer, a Grand Cherokee, or a Mercedes ML (since those are clearly the preferred vehicles for priests in this country), maybe then things start to click for that naive soul... maybe they realize no one is actually helping them, they're just being fed false hope when they could be getting the tangible help they need to pull themselves out of this crisis. Like the Bible says: "Love your neighbor as yourself"... yeah, sure, and the naive person goes back to their cramped little rental on the bus, while the priest who recited those words drives his brand-new SUV to one of the luxury mansions the church owns across the country... Ah, what a beautiful way to show love for your neighbor...🤣 If it weren't so pathetic, tragic, and sad, it would almost be funny.🙂

So, you’re suggesting that Mass and prayer just provide a sense of false happiness? I guess that’s one way to look at it, maybe.

Kate Johnson14 said:Forgive me, but from what I gather, she’s saying everything in her life is falling apart and going south, and that’s why she’s losing her spirituality. That’s the exact question any person with a functioning brain would ask themselves if they were a believer: "How am I supposed to make ends meet in this recession? How do I deal with this job uncertainty when layoffs are happening every single day? Why are bad things happening to me if I haven't done anything to deserve them?"

But Henry Kim3, she needs a concrete solution to her problems, not just some hope being sold to her through prayer. Of course, the church—as an incredibly hypocritical institution—doesn't provide any actual financial assistance to its followers, even though that very same church owns a massive amount of real estate in this country. They offer prayer, words spoken during Mass... basically, comfort. It’s just like someone with a weak character who, crushed by problems they can't handle, feels so miserable and lost that they turn to drugs just to feel happy for a few hours while it kicks in... sure, it's a fake happiness, not the real thing, but in that specific moment, it feels real enough to them. The person offering them the drugs is a hypocrite, a fake friend, because a true friend helps you actually solve your problems instead of feeding you false hope and artificial bliss. It's the same with the church hypocritically offering PRAYER as comfort to people who are unemployed, people who can't afford to feed their families, or young people sitting on unemployment benefits hoping for a job while everything falls apart... all when they could take a portion of that enormous capital they possess and pay out to believers in their darkest hours, house the homeless, and actually help. A fake solution looks perfect to a naive person at first glance; it seems right within reach, and while they're being sold this hollow fix (in this case, via a priest's sermon during Mass), everything seems so solvable and wonderful... but once they step out of that church—that massive building that reeks of wastefulness and excess—and head back to their tiny rented apartment, or catch a bus or a subway home while the priest who gave them the "solution" in the form of prayer pulls away in a Tahoe, a Hummer, a Grand Cherokee, or a Mercedes ML (since those are clearly the preferred vehicles for priests in this country), maybe then things start to click for that naive soul... maybe they realize no one is actually helping them, they're just being fed false hope when they could be getting the tangible help they need to pull themselves out of this crisis. Like the Bible says: "Love your neighbor as yourself"... yeah, sure, and the naive person goes back to their cramped little rental on the bus, while the priest who recited those words drives his brand-new SUV to one of the luxury mansions the church owns across the country... Ah, what a beautiful way to show love for your neighbor...🤣 If it weren't so pathetic, tragic, and sad, it would almost be funny.🙂

When it comes to drugs, I suppose I can agree with that half-sentence... But as for meat? Please, don't even try to make me laugh.

Kate Johnson14 said:Forgive me, but from what I gather, she’s saying everything in her life is falling apart and going south, and that’s why she’s losing her spirituality. That’s the exact question any person with a functioning brain would ask themselves if they were a believer: "How am I supposed to make ends meet in this recession? How do I deal with this job uncertainty when layoffs are happening every single day? Why are bad things happening to me if I haven't done anything to deserve them?"

But Henry Kim3, she needs a concrete solution to her problems, not just some hope being sold to her through prayer. Of course, the church—as an incredibly hypocritical institution—doesn't provide any actual financial assistance to its followers, even though that very same church owns a massive amount of real estate in this country. They offer prayer, words spoken during Mass... basically, comfort. It’s just like someone with a weak character who, crushed by problems they can't handle, feels so miserable and lost that they turn to drugs just to feel happy for a few hours while it kicks in... sure, it's a fake happiness, not the real thing, but in that specific moment, it feels real enough to them. The person offering them the drugs is a hypocrite, a fake friend, because a true friend helps you actually solve your problems instead of feeding you false hope and artificial bliss. It's the same with the church hypocritically offering PRAYER as comfort to people who are unemployed, people who can't afford to feed their families, or young people sitting on unemployment benefits hoping for a job while everything falls apart... all when they could take a portion of that enormous capital they possess and pay out to believers in their darkest hours, house the homeless, and actually help. A fake solution looks perfect to a naive person at first glance; it seems right within reach, and while they're being sold this hollow fix (in this case, via a priest's sermon during Mass), everything seems so solvable and wonderful... but once they step out of that church—that massive building that reeks of wastefulness and excess—and head back to their tiny rented apartment, or catch a bus or a subway home while the priest who gave them the "solution" in the form of prayer pulls away in a Tahoe, a Hummer, a Grand Cherokee, or a Mercedes ML (since those are clearly the preferred vehicles for priests in this country), maybe then things start to click for that naive soul... maybe they realize no one is actually helping them, they're just being fed false hope when they could be getting the tangible help they need to pull themselves out of this crisis. Like the Bible says: "Love your neighbor as yourself"... yeah, sure, and the naive person goes back to their cramped little rental on the bus, while the priest who recited those words drives his brand-new SUV to one of the luxury mansions the church owns across the country... Ah, what a beautiful way to show love for your neighbor...🤣 If it weren't so pathetic, tragic, and sad, it would almost be funny.🙂

Look, after a statement like that, I guess there isn't much left for us to talk about.

Kate Johnson14 said:Forgive me, but from what I gather, she’s saying everything in her life is falling apart and going south, and that’s why she’s losing her spirituality. That’s the exact question any person with a functioning brain would ask themselves if they were a believer: "How am I supposed to make ends meet in this recession? How do I deal with this job uncertainty when layoffs are happening every single day? Why are bad things happening to me if I haven't done anything to deserve them?"

But Henry Kim3, she needs a concrete solution to her problems, not just some hope being sold to her through prayer. Of course, the church—as an incredibly hypocritical institution—doesn't provide any actual financial assistance to its followers, even though that very same church owns a massive amount of real estate in this country. They offer prayer, words spoken during Mass... basically, comfort. It’s just like someone with a weak character who, crushed by problems they can't handle, feels so miserable and lost that they turn to drugs just to feel happy for a few hours while it kicks in... sure, it's a fake happiness, not the real thing, but in that specific moment, it feels real enough to them. The person offering them the drugs is a hypocrite, a fake friend, because a true friend helps you actually solve your problems instead of feeding you false hope and artificial bliss. It's the same with the church hypocritically offering PRAYER as comfort to people who are unemployed, people who can't afford to feed their families, or young people sitting on unemployment benefits hoping for a job while everything falls apart... all when they could take a portion of that enormous capital they possess and pay out to believers in their darkest hours, house the homeless, and actually help. A fake solution looks perfect to a naive person at first glance; it seems right within reach, and while they're being sold this hollow fix (in this case, via a priest's sermon during Mass), everything seems so solvable and wonderful... but once they step out of that church—that massive building that reeks of wastefulness and excess—and head back to their tiny rented apartment, or catch a bus or a subway home while the priest who gave them the "solution" in the form of prayer pulls away in a Tahoe, a Hummer, a Grand Cherokee, or a Mercedes ML (since those are clearly the preferred vehicles for priests in this country), maybe then things start to click for that naive soul... maybe they realize no one is actually helping them, they're just being fed false hope when they could be getting the tangible help they need to pull themselves out of this crisis. Like the Bible says: "Love your neighbor as yourself"... yeah, sure, and the naive person goes back to their cramped little rental on the bus, while the priest who recited those words drives his brand-new SUV to one of the luxury mansions the church owns across the country... Ah, what a beautiful way to show love for your neighbor...🤣 If it weren't so pathetic, tragic, and sad, it would almost be funny.🙂

Are you even listening to yourself right now?

Kate Johnson14 said:Forgive me, but from what I gather, she’s saying everything in her life is falling apart and going south, and that’s why she’s losing her spirituality. That’s the exact question any person with a functioning brain would ask themselves if they were a believer: "How am I supposed to make ends meet in this recession? How do I deal with this job uncertainty when layoffs are happening every single day? Why are bad things happening to me if I haven't done anything to deserve them?"

But Henry Kim3, she needs a concrete solution to her problems, not just some hope being sold to her through prayer. Of course, the church—as an incredibly hypocritical institution—doesn't provide any actual financial assistance to its followers, even though that very same church owns a massive amount of real estate in this country. They offer prayer, words spoken during Mass... basically, comfort. It’s just like someone with a weak character who, crushed by problems they can't handle, feels so miserable and lost that they turn to drugs just to feel happy for a few hours while it kicks in... sure, it's a fake happiness, not the real thing, but in that specific moment, it feels real enough to them. The person offering them the drugs is a hypocrite, a fake friend, because a true friend helps you actually solve your problems instead of feeding you false hope and artificial bliss. It's the same with the church hypocritically offering PRAYER as comfort to people who are unemployed, people who can't afford to feed their families, or young people sitting on unemployment benefits hoping for a job while everything falls apart... all when they could take a portion of that enormous capital they possess and pay out to believers in their darkest hours, house the homeless, and actually help. A fake solution looks perfect to a naive person at first glance; it seems right within reach, and while they're being sold this hollow fix (in this case, via a priest's sermon during Mass), everything seems so solvable and wonderful... but once they step out of that church—that massive building that reeks of wastefulness and excess—and head back to their tiny rented apartment, or catch a bus or a subway home while the priest who gave them the "solution" in the form of prayer pulls away in a Tahoe, a Hummer, a Grand Cherokee, or a Mercedes ML (since those are clearly the preferred vehicles for priests in this country), maybe then things start to click for that naive soul... maybe they realize no one is actually helping them, they're just being fed false hope when they could be getting the tangible help they need to pull themselves out of this crisis. Like the Bible says: "Love your neighbor as yourself"... yeah, sure, and the naive person goes back to their cramped little rental on the bus, while the priest who recited those words drives his brand-new SUV to one of the luxury mansions the church owns across the country... Ah, what a beautiful way to show love for your neighbor...🤣 If it weren't so pathetic, tragic, and sad, it would almost be funny.🙂

Whatever... I didn't even bother reading the rest of that. Look, I'll just tell you this much: the CHURCH IS THE HOUSE OF GOD! Amen! It isn't some mere building or whatever else you're rambling about. So, maybe take your "wisdom" somewhere else instead of dumping it on me... and keep your frustrations to yourself, too.
Nicholas Gonzalez8 Nicholas Gonzalez8 Regular
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#89 ·
neongardener2 said:Regarding that bold part... I've noticed that most people (especially in my family) suffer for others—all the fighting, the gossip, all that relationship drama—and then everyone acts like nothing ever happened! Nothing actually gets fixed; they just do it all under the guise of "love." And it happens constantly! It drives me crazy because when someone bugs me or their behavior gets on my nerves, I don't want them around, even if they're my brother, dad, cousin, or aunt. Those kinds of relationships just drain me. I lose energy, I get frustrated... I might go back to old ways if I see things have actually changed, if we actually settled things and aren't just repeating the same mistakes over and over.
Those types of connections are exhausting and irritating, and I've realized that since I distanced myself from those people—meaning I don't see them often, only when I absolutely have to—life is easier and I feel better.

So, here's the thing...! I'm fine with how I am because I'm not going to tolerate other people's stupidity or rudeness. I just step away from that person or group, and then suddenly *I'm* the rude one! People throw it in my face constantly, while all the reasons why I distanced myself from that person in the first place are totally forgotten... Like, I'm supposed to act like everyone else, swallow all the crap, pretend nothing happened, keep my thoughts to myself, and just smile in everyone's faces like they're great, all because "it's family." Well, I'm not built like that. I'm not a hypocrite, and I refuse to hang out in circles that bother me, yet I still get blamed for being incredibly rude or having an attitude.😲... 🙂

So yeah, it's not quite that simple!

How is it not? They accept it, and you don't. In this whole situation, the only real issue is that you're getting unnecessarily worked up about it. Nobody is forcing you to maintain these relationships until the problems are resolved—not even with family. Just explain clearly how things stand and tell them you aren't interested in glossing over arguments by just forgetting them. If they won't sit down and have a serious conversation to resolve things with words, then don't talk to them. Eventually, one of you two will probably cave. You make a choice, you live by it, and you're ready to deal with the consequences. To me, it's pretty straightforward.
neongardener2 neongardener2 Member
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#90 ·
Nicholas Gonzalez8 said:How is it not? They accept it, and you don't. In this whole situation, the only real issue is that you're getting unnecessarily worked up about it. Nobody is forcing you to maintain these relationships until the problems are resolved—not even with family. Just explain clearly how things stand and tell them you aren't interested in glossing over arguments by just forgetting them. If they won't sit down and have a serious conversation to resolve things with words, then don't talk to them. Eventually, one of you two will probably cave. You make a choice, you live by it, and you're ready to deal with the consequences. To me, it's pretty straightforward.

I mean, maybe it is simple if you just didn't give a damn what anyone thought of you. That's my big struggle, I guess—getting super annoyed when I can't convince someone that what I think is right is actually right🙂. And then I end up looking like some rude weirdo to everyone else... I just don't get how people can gossip and talk trash about someone, thinking the worst of them, while acting totally normal to their face just because that person is close to some relative or friend. It drives me crazy, I can't help it...
The people who don't deserve it hear all kinds of crap and get blamed for everything, while the ones who actually do deserve it get given the silent treatment and basically live life completely unbothered, in most cases🙂

And then you somehow end up being the bad guy to people you don't even have an issue with and who were perfectly fine with you😢.
David Torres6 David Torres6 Newcomer
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#91 ·
One thing really gets under my skin—the way people recoil or overreact to everything. They actually label me as unstable just because I can discuss certain topics without all the emotional theatrics—without performing that kind of spiritual weakness. Where others would be weeping or spiraling into despair, I talk about these things as if they were nothing more than a simple bedtime story.

Does spiritual fortitude correlate with intelligence? Is this composure purely a product of life experience—or perhaps just the result of grinding through theoretical study?

And why do some people treat certain subjects as "taboo," or find themselves easily triggered into tears and rage? Why has it become so effortless today to lash out at and manipulate the human spirit and its emotions?

Sometimes, I feel like people view me as twisted or broken. They start shouting, venting their anger, or displaying these blatant emotional and psychological vulnerabilities—all while I’m just trying to have a calm conversation based on logical arguments.

Does spirituality have anything to do with being able to call out harsh truths without breaking down—and does that ability always scale alongside one's intelligence?
fadedhawk33 fadedhawk33 Newcomer
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#92 ·
How do you actually stay spiritually strong?

When you're young and healthy—and you’ve actually got some stones (or ovaries, if we're talking about women)—it is incredibly hard. I remember my own experience from age 15 to 30—it was just a total wildfire of passion. You’re either satisfying those primal urges or you're sitting there frustrated and reaching for drugs.

In Christianity, I found exactly one solution to that mess: that quote from Saint Paul about those "who gave up their manhood for the sake of heaven... he who understands, understands." I can't even remember the exact verse in the Bible.
Once you get older and that sexual drive starts to simmer down, you can slowly pivot toward spirituality. At that stage, the temptation (at least for me) is the guys' circles where everyone is constantly drinking. You can avoid them, sure, but then you just end up isolated, like some kind of monk. 🤷
My final take on the question: the more obsessed you become with being "spiritually strong," the weaker you actually are. You're only truly strong when you stop thinking about it altogether. It's like climbing a ladder and then just tossing the damn thing aside. ☕
Kate Johnson14 Kate Johnson14 Newcomer
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#93 ·
Henry Kim3 said:And?

And?

I can show you the path, but you actually have to walk it...!

Please, spare me the rhetoric... 🙂

Ugh, I feel like I've read this exact sentence about religion a thousand times already...

And? Is there something wrong with that? Some people need comfort more than anything else in the world...!

Pffft, that comparison is a total disaster, even if I guess I see where you're coming from... But, I suppose what you're trying to say is that there's something deeply pathetic about someone acting like they're going to Mass when they're actually just high on drugs. It’s just sad.

So, you’re suggesting that Mass and prayer just provide a sense of false happiness? I guess that’s one way to look at it, maybe.

When it comes to drugs, I suppose I can agree with that half-sentence... But as for meat? Please, don't even try to make me laugh.

Look, after a statement like that, I guess there isn't much left for us to talk about.

Are you even listening to yourself right now?

Whatever... I didn't even bother reading the rest of that. Look, I'll just tell you this much: the CHURCH IS THE HOUSE OF GOD! Amen! It isn't some mere building or whatever else you're rambling about. So, maybe take your "wisdom" somewhere else instead of dumping it on me... and keep your frustrations to yourself, too.

Excuse me? You claimed you provide COMFORT through prayer.... Comfort is a lie, a way to cloud the truth..... a church that splurges on luxury offers COMFORT THROUGH WORDS AND PRAYER to those struggling in poverty. Fortunately, it seems humanity is slowly evolving mentally, because statistics show fewer and fewer people are buying into that fake COMFORT.

It’s funny how every House of God needs ceilings at least twenty-five feet high, how massive amounts of cash are poured into them, yet that very same church hasn't built a single homeless shelter. It's easy to toss around empty platitudes instead of showing actual mercy through actions.

In fact, you just violated a fundamental Christian principle in your response to me—mercy, love for thy neighbor—because, my dear, your reply was incredibly angry, arrogant, and abrasive.... it's practically a textbook example of the first deadly sin according to the Bible (pride).. see how contradictory you Christians are? As long as nobody asks the questions that itch, as long as nobody sees through the point you hide behind pretty words, you're all full of tenderness, compassion, and mercy. But the moment someone catches on, you turn hostile and forget every principle of loving your neighbor. It's exactly what I was saying—you proved the opposite of your own teachings by how you act. In a courtroom, they'd say, "no further questions"😂

You basically said it all yourself, and for any intelligent person, your arrogant tone is more than enough to understand the whole picture.🙂
rustyranger10 rustyranger10 Newcomer
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#94 ·
Exactly, Kate Johnson14—but don't forget that even the Satanists offer their version of comfort. Personally, I don't buy into any of it. And I can only imagine what they think is happening at the Church... as if by offering a little prayer to boost the morals of the homeless, those people will suddenly find their footing, land a steady job, and just stop living on the streets... as if an entire shelter system could be replaced by a moment of spiritual enlightenment. They honestly seem to think people transform into successful business professionals right after a prayer session. And frankly, I have nothing but contempt for those arrogant, intolerant Christians who act like they own the moral high ground!

God isn't dead, and neither is punk!!!

EDIT: Just to clarify—I'm not judging them personally, merely their behavior. I wouldn't want there to be any confusion... they simply allowed themselves to be led astray and deceived.

God is great! Long live punk!
Elizabeth Castillo87 Elizabeth Castillo87 Active Member
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#95 ·
The holy spirit just can't be weak. It’s freaking invincible.
We just tend to forget that sometimes, don't we?🙂
analoghawk13 analoghawk13 Member
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joined Sep 2012
#96 ·
If you're living in the spirit, you've got that spiritual strength down.

But if you find yourself having to work extra hard to stay spiritually grounded, it usually means other distractions are pulling at you.
You could be physically strong.
Or you could just be incredibly good at that "I absolutely have to" mentality.
Thomas Lopez3 Thomas Lopez3 Newcomer
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#97 ·
The soul gets bogged down by all the useless, trivial crap. You’ve gotta cut out everything that doesn't matter if you want to shed that dead weight. Once you've cleared the clutter, then comes the hard part—actually pushing yourself. Just like you need to hit the gym to stay in shape, the soul needs some serious mental heavy lifting. Sitting on the couch nursing a beer in front of the TV isn't exactly training.
Michael Gonzalez77 Michael Gonzalez77 Active Member
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#98 ·
If everything just worked—if you could follow a simple recipe where "this plus that equals success"—the world would be Paradise. Instead, it feels more like pure chaos. Honestly, even the concept of Hell seems more organized than this reality we live in, driven by the unconscious, unevolved depths of the human psyche. The result is a long, documented history of ignorance, suffering, pain, discontent, oppression, vice, and generally low consciousness.

It’s easy to lecture someone facing a massive, objective struggle when you haven't lived through anything remotely close to it—regardless of how much they claim their own past issues were "huge" before they solved them solo. Real trauma leaves deep, invisible scars that you can't just fix with basic mental exercises. While the intent to give advice is human and positive, it borders on being unrealistic. A person has to seek a way out, and if they can't find one, things get messy. They might just have to accept that their condition is chronic, riding a lifelong roller coaster of highs and lows, stability and instability. Anxiety, panic attacks, and severe neuroses aren't just buttons you can press to turn off; they represent a fractured psyche where mental constructs hold very little power. The only real lifelines are constant social engagement and healthy habits like sleep, diet, and exercise, but often, people don't even have the energy to attempt those. All this happiness and pain doesn't happen at once; it comes in waves.
Thomas Lopez3 Thomas Lopez3 Newcomer
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#99 ·
You don't have time to obsess over every little health fad or diet plan. At the end of the day, when you kick the bucket, all you're leaving behind is a slightly better-preserved corpse. People spend way too much time acting like they're terminal—complaining about an ache in their knee or some stomach issue like it’s a full-time job. Real grit is what gets you through sickness, poverty, or just feeling weak. If everything is perfect and you're physically peak, you don't even need soul. Honestly, having a weak spirit in a body like Mike Tyson's seems like a bad trade-off. You've gotta build up that inner strength while things are good, because life isn't always sunshine; one minute you're riding high, the next you're staring down a long stretch of nothing.
Thomas Lopez3 Thomas Lopez3 Newcomer
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#100 ·
rustyranger10 said:image

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When you think about offering up sticks just to watch them burn in the fires of some ancient solar deity... No way. Not even close.

My divine Svarozic,
The golden sun, this bright, white world!
My divine Svarozic.
Moon-dwellers, oh moon-dwellers!


Fire—it’s the ultimate symbol of the Holy Spirit in action. Think back to Pentecost; those tongues of flame resting right above the heads of Jesus' disciples. Everyone was filled with the Holy Spirit and started speaking in all these different languages, guided by the Spirit, so that people from every corner of the globe gathered in Jerusalem could actually understand them (Acts 2:4-5).

WATER FIRE EARTH AIR

and, of course,

PUNK

So, is this second one an example of a strong spirit, the body, or both?

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