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Participants Steven Nguyen7Morgan Brown5Robert Diaz2Jacob Sanchez7Larry Wilson5ironharbor8Bradley Roberts10electrictinker26Elizabeth Castillo87swiftsurfer27briskbison62Austin Rodriguez7Henry Lopez10Alex Barnes8wearyowl29Roger Harris94Frank Martin2boldbison74dustybison3Chloe Hughes6Angela Cox4rustyseal2Alex Walker5Anthony Cook8
Steven Nguyen7 Steven Nguyen7 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
With all this trash music flooding the charts lately—you know, the stuff that’s just pure negativity, constant talk about money, drugs, and being vulgar—it’s getting exhausting. It feels like everything just pushes people toward aggression or mindless living. Does anyone actually know any decent singers left? Like, artists who actually promote good values or leave you with a positive message instead of just brain rot?

I’d personally bring up Frank Ocean, since I spent some time out west. He’s huge, not just here in the States but globally too. His tracks carry actual substance, and he even has songs dedicated to God.

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPN88D_HjMU
Morgan Brown5 Morgan Brown5 Member
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#2 ·
A real optimist 😁
Robert Diaz2 Robert Diaz2 Member
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#3 ·
I guess the real question is how much of that positive vibe is actually just baked in with all sorts of subliminal messaging and stuff like that. I used to listen to Frank Ocean too, and honestly, he was amazing. But lately, I’ve just been leaning more towards total silence.

There’s this old saying about how Lucifer was basically in charge of the music in Heaven back when he was still there. The idea is that when he fell, the whole frequency of music fell with him. Now, you shouldn't generalize everything, obviously, but looking at the current music scene, I don't really feel like listening to much of it.

In my opinion, music hits your emotions and your ego in a way that ties you down to this physical existence. And neither of those things is really what we should be focusing on, I suppose. So, yeah, I don't know. 🤷
Morgan Brown5 Morgan Brown5 Member
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#4 ·
When it glitches, it just glitches... 😁
Morgan Brown5 Morgan Brown5 Member
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#5 ·
Robert Diaz2 said:I guess the real question is how much of that positive vibe is actually just baked in with all sorts of subliminal messaging and stuff like that. I used to listen to Frank Ocean too, and honestly, he was amazing. But lately, I’ve just been leaning more towards total silence.

There’s this old saying about how Lucifer was basically in charge of the music in Heaven back when he was still there. The idea is that when he fell, the whole frequency of music fell with him. Now, you shouldn't generalize everything, obviously, but looking at the current music scene, I don't really feel like listening to much of it.

In my opinion, music hits your emotions and your ego in a way that ties you down to this physical existence. And neither of those things is really what we should be focusing on, I suppose. So, yeah, I don't know. 🤷

There isn't a Lucifer in this universe, though I haven't heard anything about any other universe existing either. Our subconscious minds are already so overloaded that some specific subliminal message isn't going to make much of a difference. Sure, it might affect your mood, but it's not the core issue. That doesn't even compare to the much more frequent occurrence of our own toxic emotions—life situations, dissatisfaction, sadness, grief, and various kinds of stress. They all pull in the same direction, impacting our entire being.

That said, there are certainly plenty of dissonant pieces out there, making up 99.9% of today's music. Those who stuck to Platonic principles of harmony gave us Classical and early Romantic music. And since we know from how water reacts to vibrations that original music is structurally the most natural, it's similar to certain Hindu or Buddhist mantras and things like that.
Robert Diaz2 Robert Diaz2 Member
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#6 ·
Morgan Brown5 said:There isn't a Lucifer in this universe, though I haven't heard anything about any other universe existing either. Our subconscious minds are already so overloaded that some specific subliminal message isn't going to make much of a difference. Sure, it might affect your mood, but it's not the core issue. That doesn't even compare to the much more frequent occurrence of our own toxic emotions—life situations, dissatisfaction, sadness, grief, and various kinds of stress. They all pull in the same direction, impacting our entire being.

That said, there are certainly plenty of dissonant pieces out there, making up 99.9% of today's music. Those who stuck to Platonic principles of harmony gave us Classical and early Romantic music. And since we know from how water reacts to vibrations that original music is structurally the most natural, it's similar to certain Hindu or Buddhist mantras and things like that.

I'm with you on that. Real-world problems break a person down way faster than any little song ever could.

As for the Lucifer thing, I wasn't being literal at all. It’s just a saying... more like a metaphor for that super destructive frequency within our own level of existence. And when you see the kind of stuff being fed to people through the media nowadays, it really fits. I mean, damn, you can't exactly have Rihanna performing half-naked at a Teen Choice Awards show singing "Rude Boy," asking "are ya big enough... rude boy can ya get it up." You just can't. So, that Lucifer metaphor actually lands pretty well. 😁
Jacob Sanchez7 Jacob Sanchez7 Active Member
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#7 ·
Dredg, Karnivool, Cynic, mus, Nine Inch Nails, Tool, Porcupine Tree. That’s the list. Straight to the point.
Morgan Brown5 Morgan Brown5 Member
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#8 ·
Jacob Sanchez7 said:Dredg, Karnivool, Cynic, mus, Nine Inch Nails, Tool, Porcupine Tree. That’s the list. Straight to the point.

Are these what > would call "Luciferian"... bands that supposedly tap into spirituality? 🙂

Take Tool, for example. I don't think this has anything to do with spirituality if you define spirituality as something purely positive. Sure, they touch on the occult, but true spirituality should be about elevating the soul... it shouldn't lead to pain, suffering, or brain tumors. It should do the opposite. You could argue the drummer—and likely the rest of the band—are influenced by things like Krovli, but that isn't spirituality. It’s just the human tendency to poke at the darkness within ourselves. You see it in Krovli's tragic end, which is actually pretty rare among highly evolved people, and you hear it in Tool's "sick" music. And I'm not talking about their talent. They're a legendary band with incredible musicality and performance standards. They have plenty of creativity... and then some.
Larry Wilson5 Larry Wilson5 Active Member
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#9 ·
Two musical "laborers"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=bbcKO92OGNI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=KsZBzuU8jHw

I don't really get this idea of "evil" music.
Maybe it’s just our own attitude toward it; whether angels or Lucifer are singing, I guess the illusion always resides within the person rather than the sound itself.
If there exists a melody capable of overwhelming the senses—an illusion of achievement, temptation, or pure feeling—it probably isn't from this world.
But then again,
even a simple four-beat rhythm might serve as a "release" for someone else—a burst of energy.
And
I suppose I have a particular aversion to psychedelia,
since I see it as a trap designed to manufacture a false sense of consciousness.
But treating it like a challenge or a guard... well, it's everywhere. It's just cheap thrills for tourists. Once you see through it, you can just cast it into infinity along with the irritation it causes. 😁:,
In that sense, everything has its use.
ironharbor8 ironharbor8 Member
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#10 ·
Eurythmics - There Must Be An Angel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCdneDxFRYQ

Turkantam - om namah Shivay blues

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBX1zEP6f1E

Janis Joplin - me and Bobby McGee

http://youtu.be/c7CtqwyxHM0

Sabri Brothers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C2ufrnmN1w

Fleetwood Mac

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WriBVGuxQI

Ravi Shankar

Deuter

Hariprasad Chaurasia

Urmila Devi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XSrpfVWdkk

By the way, what defines "normal" music versus what we'd call "abnormal" songs or compositions?
Morgan Brown5 Morgan Brown5 Member
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#11 ·
ironharbor8 said:Eurythmics - There Must Be An Angel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCdneDxFRYQ

Turkantam - om namah Shivay blues

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBX1zEP6f1E

Janis Joplin - me and Bobby McGee

http://youtu.be/c7CtqwyxHM0

Sabri Brothers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C2ufrnmN1w

Fleetwood Mac

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WriBVGuxQI

Ravi Shankar

Deuter

Hariprasad Chaurasia

Urmila Devi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XSrpfVWdkk

By the way, what defines "normal" music versus what we'd call "abnormal" songs or compositions?

In the broadest sense—think pure harmony versus dissonance. Most music produced today falls into that dissonant category: irregular rhythms, clashing melodies, and so on. Sure, that’s one way to split it. But if you look at how water or living organisms react to specific frequencies, they would gravitate toward that tiny 0.001% of truly harmonic sound.

It isn't about following musical conventions, though. Maybe Plato wanted to achieve that kind of order in his ideal Republic to protect the human soul from this exact issue—though he likely factored in other arts too...

Still, I see a massive connection between two completely opposite extremes:

On one hand, you have truly spiritual music that radiates. It produces energy vibrations that actually benefit a person. Because it comes from someone with immense energetic capacity, a listener might feel physically refreshed, notice better circulation, find calm, or feel their thoughts aligning with the will of the Unknown. You get this internal warmth just by listening... nothing else required.

Then there’s something negative, almost mentally taxing, like certain popular horror-themed subgenres. Even if the musicians behind black or gothic metal are technically skilled, the themes are destructive. They tend to attract young people who are already predisposed to that mindset. I'm sure it gives people an adrenaline rush, but for actual spiritual or personal growth, I think it's pretty useless. Just my two cents, of course.

There is a long spectrum between those two points that we loosely call "Music." Personally, I’d say only that top 0.001% is true Music. Everything else is just some deviant sonic state that mirrors our own deviations in consciousness and the subconscious. As a musician myself, I end up creating something in that middle ground... trying to trigger a cathartic effect, though I'm not entirely sure how successful I am at hitting that target...
ironharbor8 ironharbor8 Member
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#12 ·
@ Morgan Brown5
Which of these Merriam-Webster definitions for "normal" are we actually discussing here?

1
: perpendicular; specifically: perpendicular to a tangent at a point of tangency
2
a : in accordance with, constituting, or not deviating from a norm, rule, or principle
b : conforming to a type, standard, or regular pattern
3
: occurring naturally
4
a : relating to, or characterized by average intelligence or development
b : free from mental disorder: sane
5
a regarding a solution: having a concentration of one gram equivalent of solute per liter
b : containing neither basic hydroxyl nor acid hydrogen
c : not associated
d : having a straight-chain structure
6
of a subgroup: possessing the property that every coset produced by operating on the left by a given element is equal to the coset produced by operating on the right by the same element
7
: relating to, involving, or being a normal curve or normal distribution

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I find it difficult to align myself with your assertions.

Why does calmness carry a desirable connotation while excitement does not? Without excitement, in a broader sense, there is no procreation. I assume you would agree that procreation is a normal and positive phenomenon in the observable world.😁

Harmony and disharmony? Is there a mathematical formula that can indisputably determine disharmony?

Indian classical and spiritual music is full of irregular rhythms, so by your logic, is it also unnatural? Are Ravi Shankar and Zakir Hussain creating abnormal music?

And why is catharsis considered desirable and normal?
Morgan Brown5 Morgan Brown5 Member
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#13 ·
ironharbor8 said:@ Morgan Brown5
Which of these Merriam-Webster definitions for "normal" are we actually discussing here?

1
: perpendicular; specifically: perpendicular to a tangent at a point of tangency
2
a : in accordance with, constituting, or not deviating from a norm, rule, or principle
b : conforming to a type, standard, or regular pattern
3
: occurring naturally
4
a : relating to, or characterized by average intelligence or development
b : free from mental disorder: sane
5
a regarding a solution: having a concentration of one gram equivalent of solute per liter
b : containing neither basic hydroxyl nor acid hydrogen
c : not associated
d : having a straight-chain structure
6
of a subgroup: possessing the property that every coset produced by operating on the left by a given element is equal to the coset produced by operating on the right by the same element
7
: relating to, involving, or being a normal curve or normal distribution

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I find it difficult to align myself with your assertions.

Why does calmness carry a desirable connotation while excitement does not? Without excitement, in a broader sense, there is no procreation. I assume you would agree that procreation is a normal and positive phenomenon in the observable world.😁

Harmony and disharmony? Is there a mathematical formula that can indisputably determine disharmony?

Indian classical and spiritual music is full of irregular rhythms, so by your logic, is it also unnatural? Are Ravi Shankar and Zakir Hussain creating abnormal music?

And why is catharsis considered desirable and normal?

I don't think you quite caught my drift. I was just making a broad distinction between harmonics and disharmonics—natural versus unnatural. It isn't about personal opinion; it’s about the natural laws that even classical music is woven into... things backed up by studies from American scientists over the last 50 years, and even by the work of Masaru Emoto regarding water crystallization. That's the fundamental difference I was pointing out. It's not about whether it's inherently good or bad, just what it means to have that effect...

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ironharbor8 said:@ Morgan Brown5
Which of these Merriam-Webster definitions for "normal" are we actually discussing here?

1
: perpendicular; specifically: perpendicular to a tangent at a point of tangency
2
a : in accordance with, constituting, or not deviating from a norm, rule, or principle
b : conforming to a type, standard, or regular pattern
3
: occurring naturally
4
a : relating to, or characterized by average intelligence or development
b : free from mental disorder: sane
5
a regarding a solution: having a concentration of one gram equivalent of solute per liter
b : containing neither basic hydroxyl nor acid hydrogen
c : not associated
d : having a straight-chain structure
6
of a subgroup: possessing the property that every coset produced by operating on the left by a given element is equal to the coset produced by operating on the right by the same element
7
: relating to, involving, or being a normal curve or normal distribution

***

I find it difficult to align myself with your assertions.

Why does calmness carry a desirable connotation while excitement does not? Without excitement, in a broader sense, there is no procreation. I assume you would agree that procreation is a normal and positive phenomenon in the observable world.😁

Harmony and disharmony? Is there a mathematical formula that can indisputably determine disharmony?

Indian classical and spiritual music is full of irregular rhythms, so by your logic, is it also unnatural? Are Ravi Shankar and Zakir Hussain creating abnormal music?

And why is catharsis considered desirable and normal?

I'm not expecting anyone to agree with me. A plurality of opinions is healthy, provided there's actual substance behind them. I'm not claiming what I've laid out is some urgent priority today—mostly because it's impossible to fix, much like the ozone layer above us...🙂

ironharbor8 said:@ Morgan Brown5
Which of these Merriam-Webster definitions for "normal" are we actually discussing here?

1
: perpendicular; specifically: perpendicular to a tangent at a point of tangency
2
a : in accordance with, constituting, or not deviating from a norm, rule, or principle
b : conforming to a type, standard, or regular pattern
3
: occurring naturally
4
a : relating to, or characterized by average intelligence or development
b : free from mental disorder: sane
5
a regarding a solution: having a concentration of one gram equivalent of solute per liter
b : containing neither basic hydroxyl nor acid hydrogen
c : not associated
d : having a straight-chain structure
6
of a subgroup: possessing the property that every coset produced by operating on the left by a given element is equal to the coset produced by operating on the right by the same element
7
: relating to, involving, or being a normal curve or normal distribution

***

I find it difficult to align myself with your assertions.

Why does calmness carry a desirable connotation while excitement does not? Without excitement, in a broader sense, there is no procreation. I assume you would agree that procreation is a normal and positive phenomenon in the observable world.😁

Harmony and disharmony? Is there a mathematical formula that can indisputably determine disharmony?

Indian classical and spiritual music is full of irregular rhythms, so by your logic, is it also unnatural? Are Ravi Shankar and Zakir Hussain creating abnormal music?

And why is catharsis considered desirable and normal?

I’m not making any grand claims here; I’m just talking about how these two extremes hit me personally. To be honest, music centered on decay, blood, and death doesn't do anything for me. At the same time, I don't feel like I need loud music just to get worked up. Don't get me wrong, there are incredible moments when blasting high-energy tracks with good friends gets the adrenaline pumping... but that's just a physical rush. It's like someone getting a sudden jolt from listening to black metal. It creates friction, sure, but there's no spiritual depth to it... 🙂

The kind of calm I’m talking about... I see it more as our natural state. Friction isn't natural; it's just external noise hitting the nervous system without any spiritual depth. And I don't mean being passive or checking out from reality—which is what most music tries to do—or becoming numb and indifferent. I mean a sense of fulfillment. That quiet happiness and genuine life energy that this kind of music brings out in you. It gives you this mental clarity that actually helps you solve problems. It lets you take a break from all that constant brain chatter and anxiety... that messy, unstable emotional rollercoaster most people ride through their entire day. Those thoughts usually bubble up from the subconscious and you just can't shake them. If those negative thoughts weren't there, we'd all be infinitely better at everything we do... even when we're feeling excited. That's the dimension of spiritual music. Other music just doesn't have it...

ironharbor8 said:@ Morgan Brown5
Which of these Merriam-Webster definitions for "normal" are we actually discussing here?

1
: perpendicular; specifically: perpendicular to a tangent at a point of tangency
2
a : in accordance with, constituting, or not deviating from a norm, rule, or principle
b : conforming to a type, standard, or regular pattern
3
: occurring naturally
4
a : relating to, or characterized by average intelligence or development
b : free from mental disorder: sane
5
a regarding a solution: having a concentration of one gram equivalent of solute per liter
b : containing neither basic hydroxyl nor acid hydrogen
c : not associated
d : having a straight-chain structure
6
of a subgroup: possessing the property that every coset produced by operating on the left by a given element is equal to the coset produced by operating on the right by the same element
7
: relating to, involving, or being a normal curve or normal distribution

***

I find it difficult to align myself with your assertions.

Why does calmness carry a desirable connotation while excitement does not? Without excitement, in a broader sense, there is no procreation. I assume you would agree that procreation is a normal and positive phenomenon in the observable world.😁

Harmony and disharmony? Is there a mathematical formula that can indisputably determine disharmony?

Indian classical and spiritual music is full of irregular rhythms, so by your logic, is it also unnatural? Are Ravi Shankar and Zakir Hussain creating abnormal music?

And why is catharsis considered desirable and normal?

For sure, but I don't really do math, so I can't help you much on that front... 🙂 Harmony is fundamentally rooted in mathematics. Even though water or plants don't follow mathematical formulas, they still respond to harmonics—to what is naturally resonant. The entire universe operates on this principle of synchronicity, a sort of universal harmony. You can see this clearly in the scores of Bach and others, but even someone without a musical background could pick up on it if they were just a bit more sensitive... It shows up in humans too, through all our physiological cycles. Think about how biological rhythms align, like how menstrual cycles have historically been linked to the phases of the moon. We’ve drifted away from those natural patterns lately, but you can still see the traces of it. Practically the whole ecosystem, everything known and unknown in the cosmos, is interconnected in complex ways. I can't think of specific examples right this second, but it's all there. People are connected to one another in ways we don't fully grasp, and our thoughts have a direct impact on health and the well-being of the planet itself...

ironharbor8 said:@ Morgan Brown5
Which of these Merriam-Webster definitions for "normal" are we actually discussing here?

1
: perpendicular; specifically: perpendicular to a tangent at a point of tangency
2
a : in accordance with, constituting, or not deviating from a norm, rule, or principle
b : conforming to a type, standard, or regular pattern
3
: occurring naturally
4
a : relating to, or characterized by average intelligence or development
b : free from mental disorder: sane
5
a regarding a solution: having a concentration of one gram equivalent of solute per liter
b : containing neither basic hydroxyl nor acid hydrogen
c : not associated
d : having a straight-chain structure
6
of a subgroup: possessing the property that every coset produced by operating on the left by a given element is equal to the coset produced by operating on the right by the same element
7
: relating to, involving, or being a normal curve or normal distribution

***

I find it difficult to align myself with your assertions.

Why does calmness carry a desirable connotation while excitement does not? Without excitement, in a broader sense, there is no procreation. I assume you would agree that procreation is a normal and positive phenomenon in the observable world.😁

Harmony and disharmony? Is there a mathematical formula that can indisputably determine disharmony?

Indian classical and spiritual music is full of irregular rhythms, so by your logic, is it also unnatural? Are Ravi Shankar and Zakir Hussain creating abnormal music?

And why is catharsis considered desirable and normal?

I agree, and I keep coming back to this idea... my best litmus test is how something reacts when it’s part of a whole without losing its essence. Take water, for instance—how it crystallizes and stuff like that. Even if we’re talking about Sufi or Vedantic singers, it doesn't necessarily mean the instrumentation itself carries the weight. The point is that the messages in spiritual music are healing; after all, spiritual music is often cited as the peak of expression during the Classical and Romantic eras. It really comes down to the vibrations of those musical accompaniments and whether they have a positive impact, especially since modern interpretations can vary wildly even with traditional pieces. But anyway, you're questioning me like I'm some kind of expert, rather than just offering my usual thoughts... 😁
I'm no expert, and I never will be. I'm just trying to wrap my head around what this actually means and why. But honestly, there are certain guidelines here. The whole thing with water tells me a lot, much like those ideas from Plato or even Aristotle regarding catharsis.

ironharbor8 said:@ Morgan Brown5
Which of these Merriam-Webster definitions for "normal" are we actually discussing here?

1
: perpendicular; specifically: perpendicular to a tangent at a point of tangency
2
a : in accordance with, constituting, or not deviating from a norm, rule, or principle
b : conforming to a type, standard, or regular pattern
3
: occurring naturally
4
a : relating to, or characterized by average intelligence or development
b : free from mental disorder: sane
5
a regarding a solution: having a concentration of one gram equivalent of solute per liter
b : containing neither basic hydroxyl nor acid hydrogen
c : not associated
d : having a straight-chain structure
6
of a subgroup: possessing the property that every coset produced by operating on the left by a given element is equal to the coset produced by operating on the right by the same element
7
: relating to, involving, or being a normal curve or normal distribution

***

I find it difficult to align myself with your assertions.

Why does calmness carry a desirable connotation while excitement does not? Without excitement, in a broader sense, there is no procreation. I assume you would agree that procreation is a normal and positive phenomenon in the observable world.😁

Harmony and disharmony? Is there a mathematical formula that can indisputably determine disharmony?

Indian classical and spiritual music is full of irregular rhythms, so by your logic, is it also unnatural? Are Ravi Shankar and Zakir Hussain creating abnormal music?

And why is catharsis considered desirable and normal?

No one is claiming it's inherently "desirable," but look at Aristotle. Despite how radical Plato was being with his arguments for restricting art and other forms of expression—basically wanting to ban anything that provokes too much emotion—Aristotle offered an explanation for the cathartic experience of, say, a drama. Plato would have simply banned such plays because he thought they triggered negative thoughts through internal psychological struggle and projection. But Aristotle points to that almost deeply experiential, educational moment that comes from experiencing catharsis. Back then, performances were experienced on a different level—something more mythic and psychologically profound. To give you a bit of a laugh... it's like that story about when a movie projector was first brought to a small town in the Midwest. Right at the start of the film, during a scene where a train is filmed heading straight toward the camera, the entire theater emptied out. Kids were running for their lives because they genuinely thought the train was coming right at them. 😁
Bradley Roberts10 Bradley Roberts10 Newcomer
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#14 ·
Hey there! I’ve been listening to some Thompson tracks, those Skorin pieces, and even just some underrated gems from everyday people who aren't famous but write absolute beauties—songs like "Jesus, I Love You" 🙂 or "Just to Touch You..."
electrictinker26 electrictinker26 Active Member
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joined Apr 2012
#15 ·
Morgan Brown5, could you tell me exactly which scientist conducted those experiments involving music and water?
Morgan Brown5 Morgan Brown5 Member
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#16 ·
electrictinker26 said:Morgan Brown5, could you tell me exactly which scientist conducted those experiments involving music and water?

There are actually tons of videos out there, here's one

Masaru Emoto from the USA became famous for this, though some researchers in Russia have been looking into it for decades...
Emoto mostly experimented with human thought—those positive and negative vibes that ripple out like spherical waves around us our whole lives. Though, honestly, our own thoughts are usually the most dangerous ones. You can find stuff on music too, covering everything from jazz and blues to R&B and metal. They’re all just different kinds of non-harmonic vibrations, and the water reacts by forming crystals that are broken, distorted, or irregular. I watched a lot of that a long time ago, including a Russian documentary about water that’s actually quite good...
electrictinker26 electrictinker26 Active Member
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#17 ·
Morgan Brown5 said:There are actually tons of videos out there, here's one

Masaru Emoto from the USA became famous for this, though some researchers in Russia have been looking into it for decades...
Emoto mostly experimented with human thought—those positive and negative vibes that ripple out like spherical waves around us our whole lives. Though, honestly, our own thoughts are usually the most dangerous ones. You can find stuff on music too, covering everything from jazz and blues to R&B and metal. They’re all just different kinds of non-harmonic vibrations, and the water reacts by forming crystals that are broken, distorted, or irregular. I watched a lot of that a long time ago, including a Russian documentary about water that’s actually quite good...

Yeah, it's fascinating... I couldn't find anything specific about how water reacts to blues or jazz. On a scale of one to ten (ten being the highest), how would you rate jazz and blues? Personally, I've always enjoyed them. Which musical genres would you put in a top 10 list, ranked from the most powerful down? I listen to a lot of music, but I'm looking to gradually transition toward heavier, more intense sounds. I can't jump in all at once, or I'll feel like I'm missing something intermediate.
Elizabeth Castillo87 Elizabeth Castillo87 Active Member
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#18 ·
Jacob Sanchez7 said:Dredg, Karnivool, Cynic, mus, Nine Inch Nails, Tool, Porcupine Tree. That’s the list. Straight to the point.

Honestly, I love this stuff. But let’s get one thing straight: we don't actually *need* music to find some kind of zen. You don't need it to "achieve" spirituality or whatever. Music is for pure, unadulterated enjoyment—and you can find joy in it in a million different ways.
As for everything else? That's where the silence comes in.
electrictinker26 electrictinker26 Active Member
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#19 ·
Elizabeth Castillo87 said:Honestly, I love this stuff. But let’s get one thing straight: we don't actually *need* music to find some kind of zen. You don't need it to "achieve" spirituality or whatever. Music is for pure, unadulterated enjoyment—and you can find joy in it in a million different ways.
As for everything else? That's where the silence comes in.

Yes, that's absolutely true!
Morgan Brown5 Morgan Brown5 Member
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#20 ·
electrictinker26 said:Yeah, it's fascinating... I couldn't find anything specific about how water reacts to blues or jazz. On a scale of one to ten (ten being the highest), how would you rate jazz and blues? Personally, I've always enjoyed them. Which musical genres would you put in a top 10 list, ranked from the most powerful down? I listen to a lot of music, but I'm looking to gradually transition toward heavier, more intense sounds. I can't jump in all at once, or I'll feel like I'm missing something intermediate.

It starts with the blues, then jazz, and then the modern stuff like R&B or Rock 'n' Roll. It all traces back to African American spirituals and Christian influences, which eventually lead back to the Nile Delta and the Sahara. That’s where you find what people call "world music" today—sounds that are closest to the original roots, just like American blues and jazz. There's this style called desert blues, and honestly, it's incredible.
I've listened to plenty of jazz and blues, and I used to play the blues myself. It's hard for me to draw a hard line between genres, though. To me, alternative music is all about that pure expression, which is what always drew me in. Lately, though, I haven't been listening to nearly as much music as I used to over the last couple of years...

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