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Thomas Wilson4 Thomas Wilson4 Member
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#41 ·
So, I finished high school too. Every time someone asks what kind of school I went to and I say "traditional prep school," they always give me that look, like "ohhh, a 😁 type." It’s the same story at the train station—I was lugging around my backpack, met this guy, and when he asked where I studied and I told him it was a classic prep academy, he just goes, "Whoa, so you're one of those smart ones..."

Honestly, that was basically my entire four-year experience. Same deal in college during freshman year, too... professors would constantly grill us about which high schools we came from. You could actually see the difference in how they treated us; they definitely had a different vibe for the kids coming out of the prep schools. 🤷
hiddenhawk3 hiddenhawk3 Active Member
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#42 ·
Thomas Wilson4 said:So, I finished high school too. Every time someone asks what kind of school I went to and I say "traditional prep school," they always give me that look, like "ohhh, a 😁 type." It’s the same story at the train station—I was lugging around my backpack, met this guy, and when he asked where I studied and I told him it was a classic prep academy, he just goes, "Whoa, so you're one of those smart ones..."

Honestly, that was basically my entire four-year experience. Same deal in college during freshman year, too... professors would constantly grill us about which high schools we came from. You could actually see the difference in how they treated us; they definitely had a different vibe for the kids coming out of the prep schools. 🤷

I guess you have to consider that kids coming from vocational schools have to work way harder just to get into the same universities as the prep school crowd. I probably wouldn't underestimate a colleague like that, personally.😁
Thomas Wilson4 Thomas Wilson4 Member
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#43 ·
hiddenhawk3 said:I guess you have to consider that kids coming from vocational schools have to work way harder just to get into the same universities as the prep school crowd. I probably wouldn't underestimate a colleague like that, personally.😁

hmm... I don't know about that. I was pulling that kind of heavy lifting for four straight years, whereas they only have to deal with it for maybe three or four months. 😉
hiddenhawk3 hiddenhawk3 Active Member
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#44 ·
Thomas Wilson4 said:hmm... I don't know about that. I was pulling that kind of heavy lifting for four straight years, whereas they only have to deal with it for maybe three or four months. 😉

I guess you missed the point... maybe that's why people don't hang out with high school grads; you guys can be a bit much and way too full of yourselves.

The point is, once you're at college, everyone's on equal footing. It doesn't matter where you came from. That doesn't guarantee anything, really, if you aren't still putting in the work. ☕
Daniel Moore3 Daniel Moore3 Newcomer
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#45 ·
coastalhound58 said:Personally, I don't judge, nor do I ever place myself in a subordinate position!
Don't generalize like that! Your two little anecdotes aren't exactly a sufficient sample size to draw such a broad conclusion.
For instance, I don't treat someone any differently just because they have a degree from an Ivy League school versus someone who doesn't.
One really needs to actually get to know a person before forming a judgment, and what you're describing here is, at the very least...😂
...neither a choice of high school nor a college degree tells you absolutely anything about a person's actual intellect.

This topic seems more suited for teenagers! I suspect it doesn't really belong here.

Absolutely nothing? So what, you think some guy with a PhD is somehow less intelligent than a guy working a blue-collar job on a construction site?!
This whole nonsense idea—that college grads are clueless and tradespeople are geniuses—has infected every corner of society. Seriously, get over it!

hiddenhawk3 said:I guess you missed the point... maybe that's why people don't hang out with high school grads; you guys can be a bit much and way too full of yourselves.

The point is, once you're at college, everyone's on equal footing. It doesn't matter where you came from. That doesn't guarantee anything, really, if you aren't still putting in the work. ☕

Pathetic. ☕
hiddenhawk3 hiddenhawk3 Active Member
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#46 ·
Daniel Moore3 said:Absolutely nothing? So what, you think some guy with a PhD is somehow less intelligent than a guy working a blue-collar job on a construction site?!
This whole nonsense idea—that college grads are clueless and tradespeople are geniuses—has infected every corner of society. Seriously, get over it!

Pathetic. ☕

I guess high school kids seem smart mostly because they actually have the option to stay in school. They usually have parents with enough money to make sure they aren't working full-time jobs right after turning eighteen. And saying a grad without a degree is worse than some smart mechanic is a stretch.☕

Besides, degrees vary wildly. It really just depends on what you studied. 😍
hiddenhawk3 hiddenhawk3 Active Member
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#47 ·
Thomas Wilson4 said:So, I finished high school too. Every time someone asks what kind of school I went to and I say "traditional prep school," they always give me that look, like "ohhh, a 😁 type." It’s the same story at the train station—I was lugging around my backpack, met this guy, and when he asked where I studied and I told him it was a classic prep academy, he just goes, "Whoa, so you're one of those smart ones..."

Honestly, that was basically my entire four-year experience. Same deal in college during freshman year, too... professors would constantly grill us about which high schools we came from. You could actually see the difference in how they treated us; they definitely had a different vibe for the kids coming out of the prep schools. 🤷

The hardest one is probably specialized STEM academies, ☕, where all the smart kids end up.
Kimberly Smith6 Kimberly Smith6 Member
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#48 ·
Why is there such a massive bias toward kids from prep schools?
Well, it’s simply because you can't just wander into a high-end preparatory academy; you need an GPA hovering somewhere between a 4.5 and a perfect 5.0!
And of course, almost every teacher in our elementary schools graduated from those same elite academies and went on to prestigious universities, which leads to this constant, repetitive conditioning where they tell the children that a kid with a 5.0 is some kind of genius. Meanwhile, if a student falls even slightly below that 4.5 mark, they are practically invisible, receiving absolutely zero recognition or praise. It reminds me of how most famous authors came from that same academic track—and we all know the unspoken social hierarchy regarding writers who merely read the classics for a grade versus those who actually live them!

At least in my old elementary school, things worked exactly like that; any student who managed to finish with a 5.0 would be called up in front of the whole class to receive a formal certificate, along with flowers and various little gifts. To me, it felt like pure brainwashing for the rest of the students who didn't hit that 5.0 mark, essentially drilling into their heads that only the "perfect" student is smart. It sends this heavy, indirect message to everyone else that they are somehow dim-witted just because they didn't get a fancy piece of paper or a public shout-out!

Now, look at my own situation—I graduated from a vocational high school and I am currently attending a technical university, and let me tell you, seeing those prep school graduates walk into a technical college lab is quite the sight to behold.
Those prep school kids stare at the lab equipment like newborn calves staring at a colorful gate, and they almost always try to sit next to the students who came from vocational backgrounds just to ride their coattails and scrape by with a passing grade.
Because when they see an oscilloscope, a multimeter, or a voltmeter for the first time—not to mention resistors, chips, or capacitors—they honestly just stand there asking, "Wait, what is this? What does this thing do?"
They have a thousand questions about how to connect a single wire, whereas the students who spent four years in vocational training just look at them and say, "How do you not know this? It's this, it's that," and then they assemble the entire circuit perfectly in a minute because they've been practicing the exact same material consistently for four straight years.
In contrast, a prep school student is expected to cram that entire four-year vocational curriculum into a single semester lasting maybe three or four months!
So, I really want someone to explain to me how a student from that background can possibly be a high-quality professional when they've only touched the material for a few months—and that's not even counting the time they spend cramming for exams. How can they compete with someone who has been absorbing and repeating that knowledge steadily over a four-year period?

It ultimately results in a situation where even the lowest-performing student from a vocational school ends up being far more capable than a prep school graduate when it comes to actual, practical expertise.
Daniel Moore3 Daniel Moore3 Newcomer
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#49 ·
hiddenhawk3 said:I guess high school kids seem smart mostly because they actually have the option to stay in school. They usually have parents with enough money to make sure they aren't working full-time jobs right after turning eighteen. And saying a grad without a degree is worse than some smart mechanic is a stretch.☕

Besides, degrees vary wildly. It really just depends on what you studied. 😍

Look, I’m talking about people making their own choices regarding college; just set the money factor aside for a second.

I’m still waiting for my big moment where I run into some legendary genius ditch digger, but honestly, I’ve already met plenty of brilliant folks at my university who went through trade schools or specialized programs and turned out to be absolute masters of their craft... ☕

Kimberly Smith6 said:Why is there such a massive bias toward kids from prep schools?
Well, it’s simply because you can't just wander into a high-end preparatory academy; you need an GPA hovering somewhere between a 4.5 and a perfect 5.0!
And of course, almost every teacher in our elementary schools graduated from those same elite academies and went on to prestigious universities, which leads to this constant, repetitive conditioning where they tell the children that a kid with a 5.0 is some kind of genius. Meanwhile, if a student falls even slightly below that 4.5 mark, they are practically invisible, receiving absolutely zero recognition or praise. It reminds me of how most famous authors came from that same academic track—and we all know the unspoken social hierarchy regarding writers who merely read the classics for a grade versus those who actually live them!

At least in my old elementary school, things worked exactly like that; any student who managed to finish with a 5.0 would be called up in front of the whole class to receive a formal certificate, along with flowers and various little gifts. To me, it felt like pure brainwashing for the rest of the students who didn't hit that 5.0 mark, essentially drilling into their heads that only the "perfect" student is smart. It sends this heavy, indirect message to everyone else that they are somehow dim-witted just because they didn't get a fancy piece of paper or a public shout-out!

Now, look at my own situation—I graduated from a vocational high school and I am currently attending a technical university, and let me tell you, seeing those prep school graduates walk into a technical college lab is quite the sight to behold.
Those prep school kids stare at the lab equipment like newborn calves staring at a colorful gate, and they almost always try to sit next to the students who came from vocational backgrounds just to ride their coattails and scrape by with a passing grade.
Because when they see an oscilloscope, a multimeter, or a voltmeter for the first time—not to mention resistors, chips, or capacitors—they honestly just stand there asking, "Wait, what is this? What does this thing do?"
They have a thousand questions about how to connect a single wire, whereas the students who spent four years in vocational training just look at them and say, "How do you not know this? It's this, it's that," and then they assemble the entire circuit perfectly in a minute because they've been practicing the exact same material consistently for four straight years.
In contrast, a prep school student is expected to cram that entire four-year vocational curriculum into a single semester lasting maybe three or four months!
So, I really want someone to explain to me how a student from that background can possibly be a high-quality professional when they've only touched the material for a few months—and that's not even counting the time they spend cramming for exams. How can they compete with someone who has been absorbing and repeating that knowledge steadily over a four-year period?

It ultimately results in a situation where even the lowest-performing student from a vocational school ends up being far more capable than a prep school graduate when it comes to actual, practical expertise.

You're overgeneralizing, and frankly, you're wrong.
At my technical university, the prep school kids are often miles ahead of the vocational grads, and that whole thing you said about struggling with basic electrical setups? Total myth.

I’m sitting in the labs right now next to two guys from prep schools, and they handle the gear just as naturally as I do, and I came straight from a vocational high school.
hiddenhawk3 hiddenhawk3 Active Member
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#50 ·
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/interview-high-schooler/

so much for those high school geniuses ☕ 😍
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#51 ·
Kimberly Smith6 said:Why is there such a massive bias toward kids from prep schools?
Well, it’s simply because you can't just wander into a high-end preparatory academy; you need an GPA hovering somewhere between a 4.5 and a perfect 5.0!
And of course, almost every teacher in our elementary schools graduated from those same elite academies and went on to prestigious universities, which leads to this constant, repetitive conditioning where they tell the children that a kid with a 5.0 is some kind of genius. Meanwhile, if a student falls even slightly below that 4.5 mark, they are practically invisible, receiving absolutely zero recognition or praise. It reminds me of how most famous authors came from that same academic track—and we all know the unspoken social hierarchy regarding writers who merely read the classics for a grade versus those who actually live them!

At least in my old elementary school, things worked exactly like that; any student who managed to finish with a 5.0 would be called up in front of the whole class to receive a formal certificate, along with flowers and various little gifts. To me, it felt like pure brainwashing for the rest of the students who didn't hit that 5.0 mark, essentially drilling into their heads that only the "perfect" student is smart. It sends this heavy, indirect message to everyone else that they are somehow dim-witted just because they didn't get a fancy piece of paper or a public shout-out!

Now, look at my own situation—I graduated from a vocational high school and I am currently attending a technical university, and let me tell you, seeing those prep school graduates walk into a technical college lab is quite the sight to behold.
Those prep school kids stare at the lab equipment like newborn calves staring at a colorful gate, and they almost always try to sit next to the students who came from vocational backgrounds just to ride their coattails and scrape by with a passing grade.
Because when they see an oscilloscope, a multimeter, or a voltmeter for the first time—not to mention resistors, chips, or capacitors—they honestly just stand there asking, "Wait, what is this? What does this thing do?"
They have a thousand questions about how to connect a single wire, whereas the students who spent four years in vocational training just look at them and say, "How do you not know this? It's this, it's that," and then they assemble the entire circuit perfectly in a minute because they've been practicing the exact same material consistently for four straight years.
In contrast, a prep school student is expected to cram that entire four-year vocational curriculum into a single semester lasting maybe three or four months!
So, I really want someone to explain to me how a student from that background can possibly be a high-quality professional when they've only touched the material for a few months—and that's not even counting the time they spend cramming for exams. How can they compete with someone who has been absorbing and repeating that knowledge steadily over a four-year period?

It ultimately results in a situation where even the lowest-performing student from a vocational school ends up being far more capable than a prep school graduate when it comes to actual, practical expertise.

Listen, you're acting like some master technician who knew exactly how to assemble a three-stage audio amplifier the second you laid eyes on electronics. At the end of the day, whether you went to a vocational school or a prep school doesn't matter; what matters is having the drive to actually learn and master the subject. Sure, technicians are great—they know exactly what a wire is and how to spot the positive side of a capacitor. But Joe Biden, give me a break; broaden your horizons a bit and stop looking down on people.

Edit: Do you actually have any statistical data proving that prep school grads make poor employees?
Bryan Jackson98 Bryan Jackson98 MemberOP
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#52 ·
hiddenhawk3 said:The hardest one is probably specialized STEM academies, ☕, where all the smart kids end up.

I can't tell if this was meant to be sarcastic, but I'm actually headed to the STEM track myself.

Thomas Wilson4 said:So, I finished high school too. Every time someone asks what kind of school I went to and I say "traditional prep school," they always give me that look, like "ohhh, a 😁 type." It’s the same story at the train station—I was lugging around my backpack, met this guy, and when he asked where I studied and I told him it was a classic prep academy, he just goes, "Whoa, so you're one of those smart ones..."

Honestly, that was basically my entire four-year experience. Same deal in college during freshman year, too... professors would constantly grill us about which high schools we came from. You could actually see the difference in how they treated us; they definitely had a different vibe for the kids coming out of the prep schools. 🤷

At least someone here gets it, even if it's just a small consolation.
Thomas Wilson4 Thomas Wilson4 Member
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#53 ·
hiddenhawk3 said:The hardest one is probably specialized STEM academies, ☕, where all the smart kids end up.

Man, I gotta tell you, back in my day, being in a standard track class meant we were basically following the exact same math curriculum as those honors kids. It was all the same stuff. The only real difference was how much of our lives we spent staring at equations—we’d get maybe three hours of math a week, while they’d get four... or maybe it was the other way around, honestly, I can't even remember anymore. Everything just blurs together after a while. 🤔 Most of them actually had an extra hour of class compared to us, too. Plus, our teacher was some heavy hitter from a top-tier prep school in Chicago. 😉

hiddenhawk3 said:I guess high school kids seem smart mostly because they actually have the option to stay in school. They usually have parents with enough money to make sure they aren't working full-time jobs right after turning eighteen. And saying a grad without a degree is worse than some smart mechanic is a stretch.☕

Besides, degrees vary wildly. It really just depends on what you studied. 😍

Honestly, I can't even deal. I don't think I've ever heard anything quite that brainless in my entire life. 😳 So, I cruised through elementary school with a perfect 4.0, pulled a solid 3.8 or so in high school, and now I’m finally wrapping up my degree... and apparently, all that hard work was only possible because my parents have deep pockets? Are you kidding me? Give me a break.

Kimberly Smith6 said:Why is there such a massive bias toward kids from prep schools?
Well, it’s simply because you can't just wander into a high-end preparatory academy; you need an GPA hovering somewhere between a 4.5 and a perfect 5.0!
And of course, almost every teacher in our elementary schools graduated from those same elite academies and went on to prestigious universities, which leads to this constant, repetitive conditioning where they tell the children that a kid with a 5.0 is some kind of genius. Meanwhile, if a student falls even slightly below that 4.5 mark, they are practically invisible, receiving absolutely zero recognition or praise. It reminds me of how most famous authors came from that same academic track—and we all know the unspoken social hierarchy regarding writers who merely read the classics for a grade versus those who actually live them!

At least in my old elementary school, things worked exactly like that; any student who managed to finish with a 5.0 would be called up in front of the whole class to receive a formal certificate, along with flowers and various little gifts. To me, it felt like pure brainwashing for the rest of the students who didn't hit that 5.0 mark, essentially drilling into their heads that only the "perfect" student is smart. It sends this heavy, indirect message to everyone else that they are somehow dim-witted just because they didn't get a fancy piece of paper or a public shout-out!

Now, look at my own situation—I graduated from a vocational high school and I am currently attending a technical university, and let me tell you, seeing those prep school graduates walk into a technical college lab is quite the sight to behold.
Those prep school kids stare at the lab equipment like newborn calves staring at a colorful gate, and they almost always try to sit next to the students who came from vocational backgrounds just to ride their coattails and scrape by with a passing grade.
Because when they see an oscilloscope, a multimeter, or a voltmeter for the first time—not to mention resistors, chips, or capacitors—they honestly just stand there asking, "Wait, what is this? What does this thing do?"
They have a thousand questions about how to connect a single wire, whereas the students who spent four years in vocational training just look at them and say, "How do you not know this? It's this, it's that," and then they assemble the entire circuit perfectly in a minute because they've been practicing the exact same material consistently for four straight years.
In contrast, a prep school student is expected to cram that entire four-year vocational curriculum into a single semester lasting maybe three or four months!
So, I really want someone to explain to me how a student from that background can possibly be a high-quality professional when they've only touched the material for a few months—and that's not even counting the time they spend cramming for exams. How can they compete with someone who has been absorbing and repeating that knowledge steadily over a four-year period?

It ultimately results in a situation where even the lowest-performing student from a vocational school ends up being far more capable than a prep school graduate when it comes to actual, practical expertise.

It was the exact same deal back in my day 😁 there were about ten of us who pulled off straight A's all through middle school. We got certificates, bouquets, a set of ten books we actually got to pick out ourselves, and $267 some extra cash added to our savings accounts 😁 That was the payoff for grinding it out for those eight years. Look, if someone else didn't put in the work... that's on them, not us, and definitely not on the school. Everyone had the same shot; if forty kids had pulled straight A's, they would’ve all gotten the same loot 😳

And regarding getting into high school... when I was applying, you couldn't even get in if your GPA was under a 4.8. From what I hear, things have gone downhill since then 😁 there are tons of kids out there barely scraping by with maybe 60 points max based on their grades
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#54 ·
Thomas Wilson4 said:Man, I gotta tell you, back in my day, being in a standard track class meant we were basically following the exact same math curriculum as those honors kids. It was all the same stuff. The only real difference was how much of our lives we spent staring at equations—we’d get maybe three hours of math a week, while they’d get four... or maybe it was the other way around, honestly, I can't even remember anymore. Everything just blurs together after a while. 🤔 Most of them actually had an extra hour of class compared to us, too. Plus, our teacher was some heavy hitter from a top-tier prep school in Chicago. 😉

Honestly, I can't even deal. I don't think I've ever heard anything quite that brainless in my entire life. 😳 So, I cruised through elementary school with a perfect 4.0, pulled a solid 3.8 or so in high school, and now I’m finally wrapping up my degree... and apparently, all that hard work was only possible because my parents have deep pockets? Are you kidding me? Give me a break.

It was the exact same deal back in my day 😁 there were about ten of us who pulled off straight A's all through middle school. We got certificates, bouquets, a set of ten books we actually got to pick out ourselves, and $267 some extra cash added to our savings accounts 😁 That was the payoff for grinding it out for those eight years. Look, if someone else didn't put in the work... that's on them, not us, and definitely not on the school. Everyone had the same shot; if forty kids had pulled straight A's, they would’ve all gotten the same loot 😳

And regarding getting into high school... when I was applying, you couldn't even get in if your GPA was under a 4.8. From what I hear, things have gone downhill since then 😁 there are tons of kids out there barely scraping by with maybe 60 points max based on their grades

Look, maybe try learning how to actually read what people are saying.
High schoolers are mostly just kids from wealthy families who know they’ll be able to afford tuition for at least another five or seven years after they turn eighteen. Plus, if you aren't living in a major hub like NYC or LA, you basically need a massive bank account just to get an education.😍🤷
I don't really see the point of this whole thread, other than just bragging about grades and GPAs. 🤷
As for the topic itself, I don't think anyone views high schoolers any differently, except maybe they act a little too full of themselves ☕ and older folks might have had it easier before the economy tanked. 🙂
Kevin Bailey2 Kevin Bailey2 Regular
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#55 ·
I just finished high school. I swear, when we were enrolling, they practically branded us with some weird cult symbol right on our foreheads. Pretty sure that's why people give us such side-eye. Honestly, just grow some bangs and you won't have to deal with that crap anymore.
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#56 ·
hiddenhawk3 said:I guess you missed the point... maybe that's why people don't hang out with high school grads; you guys can be a bit much and way too full of yourselves.

The point is, once you're at college, everyone's on equal footing. It doesn't matter where you came from. That doesn't guarantee anything, really, if you aren't still putting in the work. ☕

Exactly.
Jessica Patel3 Jessica Patel3 Newcomer
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#57 ·
I grew up in a small town where people view high school students through a very specific lens.
After finishing middle school, I was torn between going to a traditional four-year academic high school or a vocational program. My parents were definitely leaning toward the academic route, but I made my own choice—vocational—and honestly? I don't regret it one bit.

😳I still remember how all my parents' friends, neighbors, and whoever else was around expected me to head straight to the prep school track. When I finally told them what I actually chose, it was always the same old story—questions like, "Why there?" or "Wouldn't you be better off at the academy?"—just constant judgment.

To keep from drifting too far off-topic, there is a clear hierarchy in my hometown regarding high school paths. Most people seem to think those in academic tracks are naturally smarter, better people, or just destined for more success... essentially, they get a level of respect that others don't.

Personally, I don't see any reason to judge someone based on their high school diploma, their college degree, or anything else for that matter.
First off, being a decent human being is what matters—and no school can teach you that.
In my opinion, you can find brilliant kids in any type of school.

hiddenhawk3 said:I guess you missed the point... maybe that's why people don't hang out with high school grads; you guys can be a bit much and way too full of yourselves.

The point is, once you're at college, everyone's on equal footing. It doesn't matter where you came from. That doesn't guarantee anything, really, if you aren't still putting in the work. ☕

I agree.
Daniel Moore3 Daniel Moore3 Newcomer
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#58 ·
Jessica Patel3 said:I grew up in a small town where people view high school students through a very specific lens.
After finishing middle school, I was torn between going to a traditional four-year academic high school or a vocational program. My parents were definitely leaning toward the academic route, but I made my own choice—vocational—and honestly? I don't regret it one bit.

😳I still remember how all my parents' friends, neighbors, and whoever else was around expected me to head straight to the prep school track. When I finally told them what I actually chose, it was always the same old story—questions like, "Why there?" or "Wouldn't you be better off at the academy?"—just constant judgment.

To keep from drifting too far off-topic, there is a clear hierarchy in my hometown regarding high school paths. Most people seem to think those in academic tracks are naturally smarter, better people, or just destined for more success... essentially, they get a level of respect that others don't.

Personally, I don't see any reason to judge someone based on their high school diploma, their college degree, or anything else for that matter.
First off, being a decent human being is what matters—and no school can teach you that.
In my opinion, you can find brilliant kids in any type of school.

I agree.

Even at a local trade school? Man, your judgment is seriously off. 😛
hiddenhawk3 hiddenhawk3 Active Member
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#59 ·
coastalhound58 said:Personally, I don't judge, nor do I ever place myself in a subordinate position!
Don't generalize like that! Your two little anecdotes aren't exactly a sufficient sample size to draw such a broad conclusion.
For instance, I don't treat someone any differently just because they have a degree from an Ivy League school versus someone who doesn't.
One really needs to actually get to know a person before forming a judgment, and what you're describing here is, at the very least...😂
...neither a choice of high school nor a college degree tells you absolutely anything about a person's actual intellect.

This topic seems more suited for teenagers! I suspect it doesn't really belong here.

Look, even if most straight-A students come from prep schools, those same kids end up in programs like med school, where the entrance exams are brutal and spots are limited. You're telling me that doesn't say anything about their brainpower? 🤷(Or maybe they're just stubborn as hell)

Is your average med student actually smarter than an average student in some other field?🤷
Or someone who finishes a math or engineering degree on time with decent grades... I doubt that says nothing about their abilities. 😁
Kimberly Smith6 Kimberly Smith6 Member
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#60 ·
Daniel Moore3 said:Look, I’m talking about people making their own choices regarding college; just set the money factor aside for a second.

I’m still waiting for my big moment where I run into some legendary genius ditch digger, but honestly, I’ve already met plenty of brilliant folks at my university who went through trade schools or specialized programs and turned out to be absolute masters of their craft... ☕

You're overgeneralizing, and frankly, you're wrong.
At my technical university, the prep school kids are often miles ahead of the vocational grads, and that whole thing you said about struggling with basic electrical setups? Total myth.

I’m sitting in the labs right now next to two guys from prep schools, and they handle the gear just as naturally as I do, and I came straight from a vocational high school.

That’s just what I’ve seen at my college, so it feels a bit strange to hear you claim that prep school kids are somehow ahead of those who spent four years in specialized vocational training. And, if I'm being honest, I actually had to personally pull some of them through their coursework because I felt bad watching them fail; they aren't exactly to blame for the fact that our education system essentially stretched middle school into an extra four years filled with subjects that have absolutely nothing to do with a real profession. But, according to your logic, I suppose all these prep school students were just born geniuses, attending classes solely to collect a diploma. 🤣

Thomas Wilson4 said:Man, I gotta tell you, back in my day, being in a standard track class meant we were basically following the exact same math curriculum as those honors kids. It was all the same stuff. The only real difference was how much of our lives we spent staring at equations—we’d get maybe three hours of math a week, while they’d get four... or maybe it was the other way around, honestly, I can't even remember anymore. Everything just blurs together after a while. 🤔 Most of them actually had an extra hour of class compared to us, too. Plus, our teacher was some heavy hitter from a top-tier prep school in Chicago. 😉

Honestly, I can't even deal. I don't think I've ever heard anything quite that brainless in my entire life. 😳 So, I cruised through elementary school with a perfect 4.0, pulled a solid 3.8 or so in high school, and now I’m finally wrapping up my degree... and apparently, all that hard work was only possible because my parents have deep pockets? Are you kidding me? Give me a break.

It was the exact same deal back in my day 😁 there were about ten of us who pulled off straight A's all through middle school. We got certificates, bouquets, a set of ten books we actually got to pick out ourselves, and $267 some extra cash added to our savings accounts 😁 That was the payoff for grinding it out for those eight years. Look, if someone else didn't put in the work... that's on them, not us, and definitely not on the school. Everyone had the same shot; if forty kids had pulled straight A's, they would’ve all gotten the same loot 😳

And regarding getting into high school... when I was applying, you couldn't even get in if your GPA was under a 4.8. From what I hear, things have gone downhill since then 😁 there are tons of kids out there barely scraping by with maybe 60 points max based on their grades

If everyone in the class had achieved a 4.0, they wouldn't bother handing out certificates or flower bouquets, because then it would just be taken for granted.
Besides, doing that would be considered discrimination against the other students whose averages fall below a 4.9, since there isn't an official competition designed to reward one group of students over another. ☕

Honestly, I'm a little disappointed by your somewhat convoluted and rushed way of thinking when you suggest that everyone had perfectly equal circumstances to achieve a 4.0 and that anyone who failed to reach it is solely responsible for their own failure. It leaves me with the impression that you might not know much about how the real world works and that you're viewing everything solely through your own lens. 🙄

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