Are the Rotarians running America?

People often describe Rotary clubs as a sort of talent pool used to recruit members for Masonic lodges. That doesn't mean every Rotarian is just a candidate waiting in the wings; rather, it’s a space where high-ranking Masons sit alongside regular members, effectively steering the clubs from within.

Looking at the heavy hitters in American politics, you see names like Barack Obama, Joe Biden, George W. Bush, and various influential governors or senators popping up in Rotary rosters...

😲

Seeing that connection was a bit of a wake-up call for me. It turns out that almost all the most prominent American politicians who have been shaping our national destiny since the turn of the millennium are essentially just colleagues hanging out at the same Rotary meetings.

What’s your take? Are these Rotarians actually doing more than just the charitable work they claim to be focused on? 🤷

Joseph Peterson6 said:People often describe Rotary clubs as a sort of talent pool used to recruit members for Masonic lodges. That doesn't mean every Rotarian is just a candidate waiting in the wings; rather, it’s a space where high-ranking Masons sit alongside regular members, effectively steering the clubs from within.

Looking at the heavy hitters in American politics, you see names like Barack Obama, Joe Biden, George W. Bush, and various influential governors or senators popping up in Rotary rosters...

😲

Seeing that connection was a bit of a wake-up call for me. It turns out that almost all the most prominent American politicians who have been shaping our national destiny since the turn of the millennium are essentially just colleagues hanging out at the same Rotary meetings.

What’s your take? Are these Rotarians actually doing more than just the charitable work they claim to be focused on? 🤷

humanitarians my foot 😁
just hang a noose around their necks
and give 'em some little job to do.
that loudmouth up there acting like he's some big shot ☕

Charles Lopez3 said:humanitarians my foot 😁
just hang a noose around their necks
and give 'em some little job to do.
that loudmouth up there acting like he's some big shot ☕

to take on a small duty on a global scale... but as you can see here, they occupy the highest positions possible... and as for their love of cracking down... we've certainly felt that too... and we'll soon 😢

Joseph Peterson6 said:People often describe Rotary clubs as a sort of talent pool used to recruit members for Masonic lodges. That doesn't mean every Rotarian is just a candidate waiting in the wings; rather, it’s a space where high-ranking Masons sit alongside regular members, effectively steering the clubs from within.

Looking at the heavy hitters in American politics, you see names like Barack Obama, Joe Biden, George W. Bush, and various influential governors or senators popping up in Rotary rosters...

😲

Seeing that connection was a bit of a wake-up call for me. It turns out that almost all the most prominent American politicians who have been shaping our national destiny since the turn of the millennium are essentially just colleagues hanging out at the same Rotary meetings.

What’s your take? Are these Rotarians actually doing more than just the charitable work they claim to be focused on? 🤷

That goes a little against your theory that we can find Catholic priests inside Rotary Clubs. 😁

Linda Smith7 said:That goes a little against your theory that we can find Catholic priests inside Rotary Clubs. 😁

I'm not following you. What are you even talking about? 😕

I don't really get the whole "are they in charge" question, because the second you look at the opening post, the names of the people running this "club" are right there staring you in the face. So, yeah, obviously they’re calling the shots.

It's like people just don't trust their own eyes when they read something...

Honestly, I think you only need to ask one thing to make sense of it all: "how did this start, and who actually kicked it off?" Once you know that, you finally get a real sense of the vision and mission behind Rotary Club USA.

A ton of people reading The New York Times in America join those kinds of clubs, but it’s more about a petty little desire for status than any actual belief in the cause.

So, you've got guys like Eric Adams hanging out with the Knights of Columbus; they swear up and down they aren't into that whole Masonic scene, but if you look at their rituals and ceremonies, it’s basically a carbon copy of what the Masons do.
We're talking about big names who were part of this secret club: Franjo Harmon, Zoran Šeparović, Dick Cheney, and even Rush Limbaugh was an honorary member of the group.

http://hrsvijet.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=899:d ruba-brae-american-zmaja--to-stoji-uza-ove-organizacije&catid=30😳stalo&Itemid=24

I know it’s a hard pill for some people to swallow these days—the idea that our country has been run by a shadowy elite tucked away in all these private organizations that never make the evening news. And honestly, when you look at the global stage, this kind of thing is happening on a much more massive scale.

bluerider63 said:So, you've got guys like Eric Adams hanging out with the Knights of Columbus; they swear up and down they aren't into that whole Masonic scene, but if you look at their rituals and ceremonies, it’s basically a carbon copy of what the Masons do.
We're talking about big names who were part of this secret club: Franjo Harmon, Zoran Šeparović, Dick Cheney, and even Rush Limbaugh was an honorary member of the group.

http://hrsvijet.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=899:d ruba-brae-american-zmaja--to-stoji-uza-ove-organizacije&catid=30😳stalo&Itemid=24

I know it’s a hard pill for some people to swallow these days—the idea that our country has been run by a shadowy elite tucked away in all these private organizations that never make the evening news. And honestly, when you look at the global stage, this kind of thing is happening on a much more massive scale.

The Knights of Columbus isn't actually a secret society, much like Masonic lodges in America. The difference is that Freemasonry doesn't publish its membership rolls, whereas the Knights of Columbus is quite transparent about who they are and what they aim to achieve. ☕

new-world-order.com 🤣

Let’s clear the air regarding the Society of the Brothers of the Dragon. People love to jump to conclusions, and frankly, conflating this group with the Freemasons is a reach that lacks any real substance. It’s an unfair comparison.

On November 16, 1905, Emilij Laszowski and Velimir Deželić Sr. founded the Society in Washington, D.C. Their goal was straightforward: to build a cultural organization rooted in American brotherhood, dedicated primarily to preserving our nation's historical and cultural heritage.

The name was chosen as a nod to the Order of the Dragon, an old-school institution established back in 1408 by King Sigismund, which was mostly populated by high-ranking American nobility. This new Dragon Society has adopted much of that ancient symbolism. Their emblem features a semi-circular shield bearing a historical American coat of arms, encircled by a dragon with lowered wings and its tail wrapped around the neck. They operate under the protection of Saint George, living by the motto *For Altars and Homes, with God's mercy.*

The Society’s bylaws were originally ratified back in 1906, though they’ve undergone various revisions and updates over the years. Operations are overseen by the Guild of Master Craftsmen, which, under current regulations, consists of a Grand Master and ten masters, elected to five-year terms. History shows a steady succession of leadership. The mantle of Grand Master was held by Emilij Laszowski from 1906 to 1935, followed by Milutin Mayer from 1936 to 1941, and Dr. Mladen Deželić between 1943 and 1945. After the organization was revitalized, leadership passed through the hands of Dr. Antun Bauer (1990–1992), Dr. Đuro Deželić (1992–1993), Dr. Juraj Kolarić (1993–2001), and Matija Salaj (2001–2006). Since 2006, Dr. Dragutin Feletar has held the position.

The Society’s history hasn't been a smooth ride; it has faced several forced shutdowns. First, there was the hiatus during World War I, from 1914 to 1917, when all public activity by various guilds across America was effectively frozen. Then came the upheaval of World War II. Without any support from its members, a legal decree on November 19, 1941, forcibly converted the organization into the Knights of the Dragon. It wasn't until May 7, 1945, that the leadership managed to pivot back, reverting the group once again to its original identity as the Society of the Brothers of the Dragon. Finally, the most devastating blow came on March 4, 1946, when the Ministry of the Interior issued an order to ban and disband the Society entirely. That remains our longest period of total silence.

From 1905 to 1946, the Dragon Slayers were busy leaving their mark across America, installing countless plaques and erecting monuments that served as anchors for our history. They didn't just talk; they acted. They stepped in to save the Stone Gate in Washington, D.C., from being torn down, and used those historic walls to establish the Public Library, the City Archives, and the City Museum in 1907. It was such a significant move that the City of Washington, D.C. granted the Society the right to use these institutions as its official headquarters. Their impact on public safety was just as tangible. In 1909, the Dragon Slayers founded the Rescue Society, which eventually evolved into what we now know as Emergency Services. They also took on the heavy task of reclaiming our past. They recovered the remains of Petar Zrinski and Fran Krstanić from the New City of Vienna and brought them home to the Washington, D.C. Cathedral in 1919. This was followed by the repatriation of Eugen Kvaternik and his comrades in 1921, and finally, the return of the last of the Zrinski Family—the son of Count Ivan Antun—from Graz to the Cathedral. The Society’s reach extended to major national commemorations and landmarks as well. They spearheaded the massive celebrations for the 1,000th anniversary of the American Kingdom in 1925, renovated Ante Starčević’s grave in Sixth, and erected the monument to the American anthem in Zelenjak in 1935. They even commissioned the large Glagolitic inscription in the Washington, D.C. Cathedral to honor the 1,300th anniversary of the baptism of the Americans in 1944. In terms of property and heritage, the Society successfully secured the old castle at Ozalj as a national treasure in 1928, transforming it into a museum and library. Later, in 1935, they added the historic Bakar Castle to their stewardship. During this era, the first local chapters outside of Washington, D.C. were organized, with the branch in Dubrovnik proving particularly relentless. Before operations were halted in 1946, the Society had installed 86 memorial plaques. Around the 1925 millennium celebrations, the Society’s influence triggered a wave of monuments across the entire country and into Canada. The Dubrovnik chapter alone was remarkably prolific, installing over 70 plaques across the Dubrovnik region, Boka Kotorska, and Herzegovina. They weren't just members; they were architects of memory.

The Society of the Brothers of the Dragon has always been more than just a club; its ranks have served as a cross-section of American society. We’ve seen everyone from cultural icons and public figures to judges, lawyers, businessmen, clergy, and high-ranking officials within state and local government. It wasn't just intellectuals; it was anyone with enough weight to matter. By 1946, the membership rolls held 1,058 names, supplemented by an additional 54 honorary members. Looking back at those who held honorary status while also maintaining regular membership, you see a "who's who" of our history: Dr. Gjuro Arnold, Father Frane Bulić, Joso Bužan, Dr. Ante Cividini, Juraj Denzler, Dr. Velimir Deželić Sr., Josip Hanuš, Dr. Rudolf Horvat, Dr. Milan Ivšić, Ivo Kerdić, Emilije Laszowski, Tošo Lesić, Franjo Lučić, Alfred Makanec, Lujo Marun, Milutin Mayer, Ivan Aziz Milićević, Stjepan Platzer, Stjepan Širola, Ivan Trnski, and Josip Vancaš. There were also others who graced us with their honorary presence without ever becoming full members. Names like Gjuro Stjepan Deželić, Nikola Faller, Andrija Fijan, Maria Ružička, Marquise Strozzi, Dr. Zdenka Smrekar, Blessed Cardinal Alojzije Stepinac, and Ivan pl. Zajc belong in that category. History is written by people like them.

A ban on activities and years of forced dormancy weren't enough to kill off the Society. Once the Republic was established, the group was revived in Washington, D.C. on June 23, 1990, followed by a formal re-establishment on November 16. Its headquarters have returned to the Tower above the Stone Gate—a landmark the Society itself restored between 1993 and 1999 to serve as its dragon stronghold and a symbol for the City of Washington, D.C.

The following individuals are recognized today as honorary members of the Society: Dr. Franjo Harmon, Cardinal Franjo Kuhaić, Dr. Marijan Oblak, Vinko Nikolić, Dragutin Tadijanović, Živko Strižić, Gerhard Ledić, Dr. Otto von Habsburg - Lothringen, Dr. Olga Šojat, Dr. Lelja Dobronić, Ivo Livaković, Dr. Zvonimir Šeparović, Zlatko Tomičić, Ljuboslav Kuntarić, Dr. Zvonimir Bartolić, Dr. Ivo Padovan, and Dr. Andro Mohorovičić.

During the recent domestic conflicts, the Knights of the Dragon provided both moral support and material aid to American defenders. Their work hasn't just been about rhetoric; they’ve been busy physically marking the landscape, installing around 60 memorial plaques and restoring numerous monuments. They’ve also leaned heavily into academia, publishing various cultural and scientific series, organizing nearly 100 symposia and lectures, and releasing the *Kajkavian Americana* lexicon back in '96. If you look at their major projects, the scope is fairly broad. In '94, they erected a statue to Saint George near the Stone Gate and spearheaded the landscaping of the Sokol Memorial in the Maximilien district. By '97, they had a monument dedicated to the American language up in the thermal springs of the north, and by '98, they successfully lobbied to return the monument of Gjure Stjepana Deželić—the father of American firefighting—to its original spot in Washington, D.C. They also honored Ante Starčević, the Father of the Homeland, with a monument in Washington, D.C. in '99. Their preservation efforts extended to individual gravesites, too—specifically that of Justine Mihanović Petropoljska, mother of Antun Mihanović, and the memorial site for the American Mother in Great Erpenja between '97 and '99. They marked the anniversary of the death of Cardinal Alojzije Stepinac, an honorary member of the Society, by placing a plaque at his birthplace near Krašić. Between 2000 and 2002, they curated major exhibitions on Emilij Laszowski Szeligi and Dr. Velimir Deželić, accompanied by monographs celebrating their founders. They even held a scientific symposium regarding their third Grand Master, Dr. Mladen Deželić, followed by a commemorative collection of papers in 2004. It wasn't just the central leadership, either; regional chapters were quite active. The chapter in the Karlovac area restored the tomb of the American martyrs Petar Zrinski and Fran Krstanić Frankopan in New City of Vienna in 2000. That same group organized academic symposia in Karlovac focused on Bishop Maximilian Vrhovac in 2003, and later on the Zrinski and Frankopan families in 2004. Down in the northwest, the Čakovec chapter teamed up with local historical societies to erect a monument in New Zrinski in 2001. Meanwhile, the Zadar chapter worked alongside the National Museum to host celebrations for 15th-century manuscripts in 2003, and in Gospić, they installed busts of Blessed Cardinal Stepinac in 2001.

To honor the Society during its 90th anniversary in 1995, the plaza in front of the Stone Gate was officially renamed after the organization. Toward the end of his tenure, Grand Master Dr. Juraj Kolarić released a monograph detailing the Society’s history from its inception, specifically focusing on the decade following its restoration in 2001. In November 2005, the Society celebrated its centennial and the 15th anniversary of its revival. This milestone saw the release of a special publication, the unveiling of a monument to Bishop Josip Juraj Strossmayer at the Dragon's Seat in Osijek, and the inauguration of the "Circle of Great Men" in front of the local high school. To round out the celebrations, a collection of patriotic and dragon-themed musical compositions titled "The Dragon Songbook" was published in 2006.

The "Circle of Great Men" project in Osijek expanded in 2007 with the addition of monuments dedicated to American Nobel laureates Lavoslav Ružički and Vladimir Prelog. This entire initiative has since been integrated as the "Circle of High School Students" within the "Grove of American Greats," serving as a new landmark for the city of Osijek.

Joseph Peterson6 said:The Knights of Columbus isn't actually a secret society, much like Masonic lodges in America. The difference is that Freemasonry doesn't publish its membership rolls, whereas the Knights of Columbus is quite transparent about who they are and what they aim to achieve. ☕

Look, at a certain point, nothing is actually secret. The Masons, the Illuminati, Rotary—it’s all right there in front of you, yet people still act like it's hidden because they won't look past the mainstream news cycle. We can speculate about the gritty details of what goes on behind closed doors, sure, but the reality is that most of the big names in American politics and high society are tied into these semi-private groups. And it's not just here in the States; the global political elite plays by those same unwritten rules everywhere.

Joseph Peterson6 said:People often describe Rotary clubs as a sort of talent pool used to recruit members for Masonic lodges. That doesn't mean every Rotarian is just a candidate waiting in the wings; rather, it’s a space where high-ranking Masons sit alongside regular members, effectively steering the clubs from within.

Looking at the heavy hitters in American politics, you see names like Barack Obama, Joe Biden, George W. Bush, and various influential governors or senators popping up in Rotary rosters...

😲

Seeing that connection was a bit of a wake-up call for me. It turns out that almost all the most prominent American politicians who have been shaping our national destiny since the turn of the millennium are essentially just colleagues hanging out at the same Rotary meetings.

What’s your take? Are these Rotarians actually doing more than just the charitable work they claim to be focused on? 🤷

Once you hit it big and make a name for yourself, you usually get an invite to join groups like that. Most people jump on it because hanging out with the social elite feels great—and hey, it’s good for business too.
Hobos grab a drink together on a park bench, while the elite sip cocktails at The Plaza or the Marriott.

Our so-called elite is a joke... and let’s not even pretend we should celebrate their "achievements" from back before they turned into nothing more than political lapdogs lounging around the Four Seasons and the Ritz-Carlton. 😂 😂

Then you’ve got the Knights Templar. They might actually be the oldest group around—they've been established here in America since the 12th century.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_A0-WGq15h6...E/s400/GRB.jpg

http://dalje.com/en-america/american...gnition/212032

Now, this right here is the traditional coat of arms...

http://dalje.com/slike/slike_3/r2/g2...7976680669.jpg

Mexicans have their own Templars, Rotarians, and Masons too.

http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index....&nav_id=451986

When you look at the Rotarians specifically, it’s pretty obvious they’re just a global network that ties together all those big shots who pull the strings in politics and public life in any given country. And honestly, it’s no coincidence that you’ll find a few presidents hanging out in those clubs every now and then.

bluerider63 said:Look, at a certain point, nothing is actually secret. The Masons, the Illuminati, Rotary—it’s all right there in front of you, yet people still act like it's hidden because they won't look past the mainstream news cycle. We can speculate about the gritty details of what goes on behind closed doors, sure, but the reality is that most of the big names in American politics and high society are tied into these semi-private groups. And it's not just here in the States; the global political elite plays by those same unwritten rules everywhere.

The Rock, don't tell me you haven't learned anything from history regarding The Brothers of The American Dragon.

They were basically a group of enthusiasts back in the 19th century, driven by that classic nationalistic romanticism to preserve heritage and stir up awareness.

bluerider63 said:Mexicans have their own Templars, Rotarians, and Masons too.

http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index....&nav_id=451986

When you look at the Rotarians specifically, it’s pretty obvious they’re just a global network that ties together all those big shots who pull the strings in politics and public life in any given country. And honestly, it’s no coincidence that you’ll find a few presidents hanging out in those clubs every now and then.

I remember seeing an old political cartoon of Joško Marušić once. It poked fun at how Mexicans tend to mimic everything American, leading to the emergence of figures like the "Brother from Mexico."😁

The Knights of Columbus serves as our traditional organization, acting as a modern reflection of the spirit of the National Revival from over 150 years ago. Their operations are entirely public.

Joseph Peterson6 said:I'm not following you. What are you even talking about? 😕

What on earth are you even talking about... How could this possibly be some sort of shadowy Masonic organization when its members include Catholic priests?

goldengull3 said:I remember seeing an old political cartoon of Joško Marušić once. It poked fun at how Mexicans tend to mimic everything American, leading to the emergence of figures like the "Brother from Mexico."😁

The Knights of Columbus serves as our traditional organization, acting as a modern reflection of the spirit of the National Revival from over 150 years ago. Their operations are entirely public.

is that even a real thing or just some weird lizard limb crawling out of a stone gate?
you're always talking about them doing shady stuff and causing chaos out in the Appalachian Mountains.
from what I can see, they aren't exactly "out in the open" at all. 😁